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USA wasn't accepting prisoners until 44, before that all Japanese were shot on the spot. This is one of the reasons many Japanese fought to the death...
They had a different meaning of honor in their eyes dying in the battle field was the most honorable thing a man could do so they would never surrender that’s why they would try bring down the enemy with them
@@dizzydean2767 probably because 1. Germany is the one only talked about in school and anywhere else 2. Most people nowadays worship Japan and would get angry of someone told them how horrible they were
@@tristansolso1920Schools don't teach us how the US supported some evil dictators. So it make sense that'll they wouldn't include every other country terrible actions
That’s why false surrender is considered a war crime. It doesn’t help you win a battle and is just a fuck you to the medic coming up to give care. Causing all his buddies to stop taking prisoners
Add to that such attitude by IJ soldier was observed at guadal canal. So they can't even claim such action as "desperate". That's why US soldier rarely take prisoner or wounded. Because killing them is not a war crime.
The Japanese were ruthless beyond imagination. If the atomic weapons were not used, an estimated 500,000 U.S. soldiers may have died by invading Japan. Maybe you would not be alive if 1 of Those 500,000 was an ancestor of yours.
The Japanese fully intended to mobilize civilians against tanks and infantry with satchel charges, millions would have died, and that's before we consider POWs and civilians starving to death. I agree, the bombs were the best, least costly option to all sides.
And let's not forget, the Japanese government was warned, and even after the first atomic bomb was used, they refused to surrender. Only after the 2nd atomic bomb did they surrender.
My uncle was a gunner on a flying fortress that was shop down over Japan in 1943 he was taken prisoner and held in a cage that he couldn't stand up in every day the prisoners were taken out lined up blindfolded and shots fired over there head's and sometimes a airman was killed all they feed them was a ball of rice per day when the war ended he weighed 90 pounds he was 6 feet tall he never fully recovered from his captivity and he never forgave the Japanese for the cruelty he received at there hands
Well,I despise *Imperial Japan* because the horrible shit that they did like the Bataan Deathmarch and the Warcrimes they in Southeast Asia. would done the same to see their reaction but Dont done hate on *Real* Japan before Imperialism consumed them and led to their downfall but it does piss me off that they try to deny that they never done it,Siberia commited War Crimes but admitted to it atleast.
That’s horrible. But in all honesty Americans have done plenty of disgusting stuff in wartime. All sides were guilty of heinous war crimes. Look up the Phoenix Program if you don’t already know about it.
Usa will apologize to Japan when Japan apologizes to China, Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, India, Burma, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia and Taiwan for all the horrors inflicted. While nukes were bad, raping, mass genocide and experimentation is immoral.
@@lexobastion4556 No one in the US is defending Iraq. Even the government recognizes the shit that happened, and the hundreds of thousands that died there.
Nukes were immoral like regular bombing of civilians but war is always immoral, rape is part of it too its really strange how people try to say one shitty thing is ok while others arent, how is burning women and children morally different from raping them?
That's because ye are racists Americans were extremely racist to Japan during ww2 Iraq war Afghanistan war veitnam war? The opinions of terrorists are invalid ye are worse than nazis and have killed more than hitler
@@user-is8yb5xd9byou don’t understand what those men went through and you never will my great grandfather would not eat any aisan food but any Japanese cars or products the things he saw were horribly traumatic I’m sure
America humbled them real quick. 😆 😂 Those dudes back then were demons in the flesh. Youd have nightmares and ptsdf if you heard the stories that were passed down of what they did to our family and the entire country of South Korea 🇰🇷 .
Suddenly was reminded of Hacksaw ridge, and I was always confused why a bunch of those soldiers that injured Doss were in their undies. Those ones genuinely wanted to surrender, but the clothed one had the grenade and got them all shot.
In my opinion, the use of the atomic bombs was justified to end the war. The Japanese fought with a level of fanaticism and violence that few other forces in history have been able to match. Taking Japan conventionally would have been a bloodbath, and probably would have meant the end of the Japanese as a people, as many would probably have committed suicide.
Yeah you think I am lying? Why don't you think with your head and not swallowed propaganda? How hard is it to shoot down a slow carrier aircraft?? Why did USSR not already launch an invasion? Think a little
*"Close your heart towards their desperation, close your heart to their suffering. Do not allow yourself to feel for them, THEY will not feel for you"* -Kratos
My Dad, WW2 Army veteran, 3yrs in the pacific until sent home on a hospital ship Mar.1945. Definitely had PTSD !!! One horror story: he and 3 other soldiers on a very forward recon mission, main Philippine island. Small village, Japanese soldiers killed all males first, raped then killed the women and older children. Then took the babies, stabbed on their bayonets and tossed them to each other to catch on the next soldiers bayonet. He watched helplessly with only 4 of them against 2 platoons. One of many nightmares for him, and lots of alcohol. He couldn’t talk to ANY Asian person the rest of his life. I didn’t know this until in my late teens I brought home a new girlfriend one day after school. Fortunately Dad wasn’t home from work yet and mom did a quick explanation and got us out of the house in time. So terrible for veterans to have to live with those memories. I’m an AF Vietnam veteran (rescue) but never had to deal with such intense action. My heart went out to all you guys on the ground 😔❤️! I really doubt I could have survived there with y’all!?! Thank you all !
What happened to Japan before WW2 bro…They treated POW’s nice and tidy because honour and stuff but Imperialism consumed them whole and made into a something that everyone hates equally.
And now in their schools they barely even mention WW2.? Majority of young people there have no clue what happened besides the fact USA dropped A-bombs on them!?!🤔
@@Axispa.dan carlin has an excellent series on his hardcore history podcast called _supernova in the east_ that explains how the japanese people became so radicalized with nationalistic fervor by the time ww2 happened.
Yet some people wanted the Us to apologise because of the nukes but don't talk about the warcrimes japan did. What a world we live in atleast I'm glad they got to taste the sun of their flag in 45!
It is noticeable how the countries that were most ruthless during the world wars have become totally different countries. Now we just need Russia to face the consequences for it is later actions.
@@AdvancedGamer- True however Russia is however still an empire that holds on to its old imperialistic mindset. The Russians never faced a loss like the Germans and Japanese did in ww2 or Britain and France did in the Suez crisis where they realized their days of empire are over.
God, it's not that they don't teach it, it's that they actively hide it. In the Philippines they were forced to tear down a statue of one of the "comfort women" the Japanese took in WW2 so as to not anger Japan
Nope. If a soldier is seen wearing the uniform of their enemy, they can be immediately executed. Rule 62 of the Geneva Convention makes it a war crime to wear the uniform or insignia of the enemy. If caught, they can treat you as a spy, and kill you.
@@everydaychemistry6231depends. Not all soldiers agree with what their country is doing but they dont have a choice whether or not they do it. And once they surrender and become a POW it becomes a crime to kill them (unless they’re officially sentenced to death in a tribunal or something)
@@drakemordred2982 if your winning or don’t know the outcome of the battle, why would you willingly waste peoples lives? even if it brings great loss to the enemy kamikazes were born out of desperation and one pilot in a bomb strapped plane was far more efficient in destroying ships then rebuilding their almost destroyed navy
Weebs quickly defending Japan like they didn't just raped and killed so many people. I saw old footage of my people being decapitated, yet people still say that America were the monsters for dropping that nuke. Fk that
One thing that is almost never talked about is that the Canadians in ww2 took no prisoners after the discovery of the death camps, any surrendering German soldier was killed in an “accident” really just lined up and executed and left in ditches no honours just left to rot, like they did to the people in those camps, and before you go and say “well not all German soldiers were willing combatants” you find people emaciated, beaten and tortured, you see the flag that did that, you really think those soldiers cared? You really think that they still saw people with the Nazi uniforms as human? You think they would have stopped and asked each person “hi are you a willing or unwilling combatant?” Because the answer they get would almost always be “yes” out of fear and hope that there life would be spared, so no your bleeding heart argument for social justice dose not quite fit here
Some soldiers that were Nazis were force. Not all. But a good handful of them from other countries against their will. There's a movie where two guys were force to fight for the Nazis during D-Day and begged to surrender once the Americans arrive. But immediately release that it was not an option once they began to be shot at due to what they just gone through on the beach. Also the Hitler Youth is another great example of being force into battle and action. But the allies would try their best to not harm the Hitler Youth kids once they release it was just a bunch of little kids, but immediately executed their SS officers for making kids fight in a war for them which was rightfully deserve. Same with Japan. They took over islands and made the locals fight against U.S. during the island hopping. Most of the ages of those force to fight for Japan was 14 to 16 years old and was so low in rank that a private Japan soldier outrank them.
@@IceFoxPlaysActual I'm on no side of the war. War is war. Both sides are gonna do horrible stuff in the end. If I was chosen to pick a side, it'll be the allies, even though that just destroyed my response saying I'm on no side. But the axis literally committed such war crimes that was completely unnecessary like the Rape Of Nanking from Japan. That entire "battle" was completely unnecessary and was just flat out cruel. Plus being in the allies shoes and seeing what they did is almost impossible to just not execute the people they capture after what they saw and what they did. Yeah, I'm American so I understand a lot more from our side. So I honestly think it's pretty funny seeing people fight about stuff in the U.S. or out of the U.S. without taking the time to understand the two biggest wars in our history that fixes a lot of the issues in the future. But no one understands that cause they don't wanna go into debt for it or even learn about it. Like their rights and the meaning of it behind it. Plus U.S. does stuff in advance to think about doing something and the outcome of it. So it's almost more funny hearing people complain about the nuke in Japan when it takes little effort to understand why.
My father served in the 8th Armored Division, he said one time that after they liberated a camp they never took SS prisoners. He told a few war stories, but that was as far as he would go and I don’t think it ever bothered him.
Dude Japan committed the same amount of war crimes and crimes against humanity during the war as much as the Germans if not more so. Theirs a reason why Japanese POWs were rare to see they showed no mercy and in return deserved none in return.
I always assumed Americans did horrible things to Japanese prisoners because the Americans were racist. I guess there is such a thing as anti-American propaganda. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
I understand an example of perfidy on the part of a German soldier was why the US/Canada FSSF were not taking prisoners during the fight for Monte la Difensa in December 1943.
I think it’s because the devils brigade fought in that battle and they where a special forces unit so they couldn’t take prisoners as they where to move in and out quite quickly
I saw a video once about sea rescues by submarines. They would pick up sunken ship survivors, airmen who had to ditch at sea, and the like. They had heard so many tales about the Japanese who would kill all allied men who had survived their ship sinking or their plane being shot from the sky and others. They would gun them down in the water, or bring them aboard their ship to torture, behead, and whatever else. So in this sub rescue video I saw, sailors were encouraged to shoot any Japanese that were found adrift in the sea, and our guys were glad to do it. The Japanese military were devils, and that’s putting it nicely.
The stockpile of purple hearts we use today was created to award the troops who participated in the invasion of Japan. We knew what they were about and prepared, then the sun was dropped on them twice
The germans were actually notorious for this in ww1 and ww2. The other thing that many are not aware is that germans were also notorious in both wars for booby trapping stuff. A lot more german soldiers died surrendering on the western front because of this practice than most people realise. In ww1 german machine gun crews became notorious for continuing to fire until they were overrun and then surrendering. It became routine for allied soldiers to kill german machine gunners in that situation. Somedead german machine gunners were found chained to their guns, giving rise to the myth that german machine gunners were prisoners. The idea of Japanese throwing grenades during surrender is interesting. The type 97 grenade used by the japanese had no firing lever (some call it a spoon) and it was therefore impossible to hold one armed and throw it when you wanted to - you could only arm it and throw it. If you didnt throw it straight after after arming it it would explode in your hand Arming the type 97 required the user to bang the top of the firing cap on something hard - very hard, because the 97 was notorious for not arming unless you bashed it really hard. You could not arm a type 97 by hitting it on any part of your body - a body is too soft to arm the type 97 grenade; most japanese soldiers armed a type 97 by banging it hard on their helmets (which became a sound allied soldiers in the pacific learned to identify as a grenade coming their way). So even a fully dressed japanese soldier - without his helmet (which often were not worn in the pacific) - could not, in practice, arm and throw a type 97. Nor could they do that while surrendering without banging the grenade on a helmet or a rock. Which raises an interesting question of how, exactly, a japanese soldier could actually successfully throw a grenade while surrendering. Because it would be very obvious what they were doing (unless laying down on a hard surface) and there would be plenty of time to shoot anyone in the process of arming a type 97.
it depends when they throw down their arms. a soldier who drops his weapon only as the other side is closing with them, it is not a war crime to kill them at that moment.
YES!! Absolutely if they refused to strip and kept walking towards the Marines then Absolutely! EVERY Marine was taught the Japanese words for hault! Drop it! Come out! Come here! And Strip! There was no language barrier for that order!! They were also taught We will not murder you! There were 11 phases they had to learn in Japanese I don't remember the rest.
My dad served in New Guinea and rarely talked about his experiences there, however he did mention the "tricks" the Japanese used that forced the Americans to ask for no quarter and offer none. He said "Nobody was proud of killing an unarmed man, but we'd lost so many guys to Japanese that were supposedly surrendering, that it became a common practice to shoot first and apologize later. Not to mention the treatment of our guys that surrendered....or tried to"
This is why many allied soldiers never gave a damn and mowed down entire units of surrendering japanese soldiers because of how common they would hide explosives on them not to mention the worst atrocities in the entire history of humanity 😂😂😂
Perfidy seems worse then killing a surrendering enemy too me. It can be hard to stop and not shoot when another person tries to surrenders after being in a life or death fight with them, so I'm sure some were shot bc the person that shot them was still in combat mode and didn't notice they were surrendering and not fighting anymore. I'm sure more ppl do it on purpose when they kill a surrendering enemy tho, but perfidy is completely a conscious choice no one accidently kills another person while trying to surrendering to them, they've already decided that's what they are going to do before they expose themselves and fake surrender to get as close as possible or set them up for others hiding nearby to attack them.
@@AshfaqurBF I see this point time and time again and it really irks me, more japanese civilians would have died of America did a land invasion. The Japanese civilians were trained to fight American soldiers with bamboo sticks. Japanese mothers jumped off of cliffs with their babys at Iwo Jima because Japanese propaganda said the Americans would do horrible things to any civilians they caught. The Japanese would brutally torture their POWs and play catch with babys, however they would catch them on bayonets. If you would like me to elaborate on any of this or give you more information about how savage the Japanese were please just reply to me.
@@AshfaqurBF the Japanese murdered millions of civilians, they tortured prisoners of war and performed some of the most depraved and inhumane experiments on living people, in alot of ways they were worse than the nazis and people always give them a pass like they were victims.
Surrender acceptance is at the discretion of the reciever, not those who surrender. There are rulrs to warfare, but the Japanese regularly violated them... so did some of the Germans.
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Other cases would be not enough men to guard them and they would slow them down
obviously they just can't let them go
As a Japanese, I'll say that Japanese people will never surrender. We will fight until our death for our country.
USA wasn't accepting prisoners until 44, before that all Japanese were shot on the spot. This is one of the reasons many Japanese fought to the death...
And THAT may explain why so many Japanese were gunned down trying to surrender. My father served as a Marine, but never discussed the war. Ever.
Still not acceptable. Not every japanese was that way
@@laars2233Virtue signal all you want. But it is VERY acceptable to shoot someone who coming towards you with a live grenade.
@@laars2233you must also think the nukes were bad
@@bitchesihate you must think it is not a war crime
@@danax6653 if that’s a war crime look at china.
Don’t ever defend Barbadian’s
Japanese talk so much about honor but practice none of it..
In Ww2 Japanese were kidnapping their own woman as sex slaves for their soldiers. No honor at all in those people.
unit 731 showed their actual intent
They had a different meaning of honor in their eyes dying in the battle field was the most honorable thing a man could do so they would never surrender that’s why they would try bring down the enemy with them
More of loyalty towards their country than honor, I think
I love anti nuke propaganda from Japan, just makes me smile
Yes it is, if the enemy commits perfidy, they forfeit their protections
Perfidy is punishable by summary execution
Never ever forget how heinously evil imperial Japan was.
It’s sad but people forget I’ll never understand why people have forgotten this.
@@dizzydean2767 probably because 1. Germany is the one only talked about in school and anywhere else 2. Most people nowadays worship Japan and would get angry of someone told them how horrible they were
@tristansolso1920 if you look at Japan now with all the cute anime shit you'd never guess how brutal and evil they used to be
@@tristansolso1920Schools don't teach us how the US supported some evil dictators. So it make sense that'll they wouldn't include every other country terrible actions
@@tristansolso1920Japan was ruled by evil War Lords then.
Japanese we’re so brutal Nazis we’re like bro chill
yeah not like the nazis slaughtered millions of innocent people for their race
This is why "were" and "we're" are so different and why everyone should use them correctly
@@SamTencio fr i can barely understand this comment
Autocorrect is a pain
Autocorrect worse than Japanese war crimes
That’s why false surrender is considered a war crime. It doesn’t help you win a battle and is just a fuck you to the medic coming up to give care. Causing all his buddies to stop taking prisoners
Add to that such attitude by IJ soldier was observed at guadal canal. So they can't even claim such action as "desperate". That's why US soldier rarely take prisoner or wounded. Because killing them is not a war crime.
Cod WAW taught me even when your enemy is surrendering doesn’t mean you’re completely safe yet..
finally someone else that has played waw💪
MILLER! *explosion* Miller they killed the sarge YOU SONS OF BITCHES!
Best COD campaign of all time.
“MILLER!”
THEY'RE GODDAMN ANIMALS
Is it ever okay to eat prisoners? The Japanese did.
Japan sent them rice and told the troops they could eat prisoners for their protein needs.
read about what happened to the ppl w george bush sr in wwii
@@popmmog-7 read about the Japanese war crimes.
@@popmmog-7 george bush WW2???? Huh?
@laenius6061 send a name of a article first.
@@maximusthezoura czcams.com/video/CCEER6v8tPM/video.html hes talkin about this youtube video
The Japanese were ruthless beyond imagination. If the atomic weapons were not used, an estimated 500,000 U.S. soldiers may have died by invading Japan. Maybe you would not be alive if 1 of Those 500,000 was an ancestor of yours.
Damn and people think the 2 nukes were 100 percent unjustified
The Japanese fully intended to mobilize civilians against tanks and infantry with satchel charges, millions would have died, and that's before we consider POWs and civilians starving to death. I agree, the bombs were the best, least costly option to all sides.
And let's not forget, the Japanese government was warned, and even after the first atomic bomb was used, they refused to surrender. Only after the 2nd atomic bomb did they surrender.
Now the Japanese government is preparing to drop a third
The Japanese causality count would have been worse too
Japan: We fight for honor!
Also Japan:
Fighting to the death is honor
@@Basedlocation Japan wasn’t honorable they were fanatics just like the nazis.
@@Basedlocation Yeah, sending bunch of teenager into kamikaze mission
yeah but not the suicide type of death.
My uncle was a gunner on a flying fortress that was shop down over Japan in 1943 he was taken prisoner and held in a cage that he couldn't stand up in every day the prisoners were taken out lined up blindfolded and shots fired over there head's and sometimes a airman was killed all they feed them was a ball of rice per day when the war ended he weighed 90 pounds he was 6 feet tall he never fully recovered from his captivity and he never forgave the Japanese for the cruelty he received at there hands
Well,I despise *Imperial Japan* because the horrible shit that they did like the Bataan Deathmarch and the Warcrimes they in Southeast Asia. would done the same to see their reaction but Dont done hate on *Real* Japan before Imperialism consumed them and led to their downfall but it does piss me off that they try to deny that they never done it,Siberia commited War Crimes but admitted to it atleast.
Siberia?
@@Axispa. imperial japan _was_ the *real* japan when it existed
That’s horrible. But in all honesty Americans have done plenty of disgusting stuff in wartime. All sides were guilty of heinous war crimes. Look up the Phoenix Program if you don’t already know about it.
I still hate Japan due to the fact that they try to hide it
Usa will apologize to Japan when Japan apologizes to China, Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, India, Burma, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia and Taiwan for all the horrors inflicted. While nukes were bad, raping, mass genocide and experimentation is immoral.
They realized if they ignore their atrocities they don’t have to answer for anything they did
Iraq💀
@@lexobastion4556 No one in the US is defending Iraq. Even the government recognizes the shit that happened, and the hundreds of thousands that died there.
Nukes were immoral like regular bombing of civilians but war is always immoral, rape is part of it too its really strange how people try to say one shitty thing is ok while others arent, how is burning women and children morally different from raping them?
Don't forget cannibalism
Sneaky atomic bomb got things even
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
What games?
@@spectre3509 garden warfare 2
@@spectre3509 terraria
@@spectre3509 sex with hitler
@@spectre3509 hot potato
Dad was a marine in ww2 wouldn’t let anything Japanese in the house. He hated them to his soul! They were pure evil and many could not forgive!
your dad was a good man
Did he hate civilians?
That's because ye are racists
Americans were extremely racist to Japan during ww2
Iraq war Afghanistan war veitnam war?
The opinions of terrorists are invalid ye are worse than nazis and have killed more than hitler
@@user-is8yb5xd9byou don’t understand what those men went through and you never will my great grandfather would not eat any aisan food but any Japanese cars or products the things he saw were horribly traumatic I’m sure
@@WW2historyguy2011 why are you so triggered by the fact that i complimented his dad
Canadian in ww1: ur sorry that u surrendered to us, bud
I love how Japanese were all about honor. And then they do the most unhonorable thing possible.
America humbled them real quick. 😆 😂 Those dudes back then were demons in the flesh. Youd have nightmares and ptsdf if you heard the stories that were passed down of what they did to our family and the entire country of South Korea 🇰🇷 .
Not really, america murdered around 300k Japanese civilians. Just because Japan did much worse does not excuse americas war crime.
Suddenly was reminded of Hacksaw ridge, and I was always confused why a bunch of those soldiers that injured Doss were in their undies. Those ones genuinely wanted to surrender, but the clothed one had the grenade and got them all shot.
They all had grenades they were just hiding them
The Army were also told not to take pow's at Normandy because they didn't have enough men to be able to watch them
In my opinion, the use of the atomic bombs was justified to end the war. The Japanese fought with a level of fanaticism and violence that few other forces in history have been able to match. Taking Japan conventionally would have been a bloodbath, and probably would have meant the end of the Japanese as a people, as many would probably have committed suicide.
They already surrendered
@@delusionofillusion473not true
@@delusionofillusion473I love spreading misinformation on the internet
@@delusionofillusion473 literally false, objectively not true
Yeah you think I am lying? Why don't you think with your head and not swallowed propaganda? How hard is it to shoot down a slow carrier aircraft?? Why did USSR not already launch an invasion? Think a little
*"Close your heart towards their desperation, close your heart to their suffering. Do not allow yourself to feel for them, THEY will not feel for you"*
-Kratos
Than later in the same game said he was wrong and to open your heart to them.
both sides in warfare have that mentality and that's why we have war in the first place
My Dad, WW2 Army veteran, 3yrs in the pacific until sent home on a hospital ship Mar.1945. Definitely had
PTSD !!! One horror story: he and 3 other soldiers on a very forward recon mission, main Philippine island.
Small village, Japanese soldiers killed all males first, raped then killed the women and older children. Then
took the babies, stabbed on their bayonets and tossed them to each other to catch on the next soldiers bayonet. He watched helplessly with only 4 of them against 2 platoons. One of many nightmares for him, and lots of alcohol. He couldn’t talk to ANY Asian person the rest of his life. I didn’t know this until in my late teens I brought home a new girlfriend one day after school. Fortunately Dad wasn’t home from work yet and mom did a quick explanation and got us out of the house in time. So terrible for veterans to have to live with those memories. I’m an AF Vietnam veteran (rescue) but never had to deal with such intense action. My heart went out to all you guys on the ground 😔❤️! I really doubt I could have survived there with y’all!?! Thank you all !
What happened to Japan before WW2 bro…They treated POW’s nice and tidy because honour and stuff but Imperialism consumed them whole and made into a something that everyone hates equally.
>couldn’t talk to any asian person
Racist asshole rip bozo
And now in their schools they barely even mention WW2.?
Majority of young people there
have no clue what happened besides the fact USA dropped
A-bombs on them!?!🤔
How could imperial japan even be human. Sounds horrible to me what they did and I wonder how any human can do that
@@Axispa.dan carlin has an excellent series on his hardcore history podcast called _supernova in the east_ that explains how the japanese people became so radicalized with nationalistic fervor by the time ww2 happened.
And not a single tear was shed. Ask any Chinese person who lived through WW2.
Yet some people wanted the Us to apologise because of the nukes but don't talk about the warcrimes japan did. What a world we live in atleast I'm glad they got to taste the sun of their flag in 45!
Average American nationalist malding 😂😂😂😂 . US pow prisoners deserve it by your logic.
Lol
yeah. that'll show all those people that had nothing to do with the war to be born japanese. they got a taste of their own medicine
Que comentário pequeno raso e ridículo Nenhum civil ou população merece o que o Japão sofreu com as bombas! Nenhuma Vida humana vale mais que outra
@@rogerhiroshibro ur a Japanese propaganda bot 💀
It is noticeable how the countries that were most ruthless during the world wars have become totally different countries. Now we just need Russia to face the consequences for it is later actions.
Russia is not even nearly as close as ruthless as Japan
@@AdvancedGamer- True however Russia is however still an empire that holds on to its old imperialistic mindset. The Russians never faced a loss like the Germans and Japanese did in ww2 or Britain and France did in the Suez crisis where they realized their days of empire are over.
"The meaning of honor can be altered by propaganda."
-Someone on the internet
r/im14andthisisdeep
Also Since the times of the ancient samurai fighting to the death was japanese honor.
"Honor is the best tool for fanaticism"
-Another one on the internet
It’s either you or them
Ironic how a culture of people, who claim to be driven by honor, could be so despicable. I would imagine desperation will drive anyone to do anything.
If youve never experienced war you can not truthfully answer this. You have no clue what its like.
After watching The Pacific, ABSOLUTELY!!
No wonder Americans were so cruel the Japanese on the battlefield, these guys had almost no morals.
In war Nobody have moral
False@@eridjonavdulaj2386
Americans frequently simply did not bother with surrendering Japanese and just gunned them down without any need to undress etc.
Good
good saved many lives
Maybe because the Japanese were pieces of shit?
Good
GOOD
My grandmothers friend was imprisoned in a Japanese camp with her 6 yrs old daugther in Indonesia. It was hell!!
May I ask what happened to them?😢
Why Japan not teaching about dark age of japan?
God, it's not that they don't teach it, it's that they actively hide it. In the Philippines they were forced to tear down a statue of one of the "comfort women" the Japanese took in WW2 so as to not anger Japan
Politicians like to wash their history. Japan is a very extreme example.
They're too ashamed of their past.
Japanese textbooks contain information about the evil deeds that Japan has committed.
Canadians: 🥱
Canadians are pussy cats in WW2 😂😂
Canadians: literally burns down an entire town for fun
Also, if they are wearing the uniform of their enemy, normal Gemeva Convention rules don't apply, and they can be summarily executed.
bros trying to justify murder 😂
Nope. If a soldier is seen wearing the uniform of their enemy, they can be immediately executed. Rule 62 of the Geneva Convention makes it a war crime to wear the uniform or insignia of the enemy. If caught, they can treat you as a spy, and kill you.
@@blu4390 Are you trying to say that the execution of Japanese solders wasn't justifiable?
@@everydaychemistry6231depends. Not all soldiers agree with what their country is doing but they dont have a choice whether or not they do it. And once they surrender and become a POW it becomes a crime to kill them (unless they’re officially sentenced to death in a tribunal or something)
Soviet and german be like : we dont do that here
NAKAM 🐍💵?? Cyanide bread....no war Is just
The Germans and Soviets both frequently accepted surrenders. whether or not the prisoners survived imprisonment is another story
So much for their HONOR. I guess all the depiction on film and TV shows were a complete lie
To them, honor was dying for their country. So their point still stands.
Wait until u hear about kamikaze, just a more cooler way of self destruct.
@@Shiroi-Kuro but sadly it was quite effective
@@isaiahsmith4335 if it was effective why did they wait until they were losing and desperate to use it?
@@drakemordred2982 if your winning or don’t know the outcome of the battle, why would you willingly waste peoples lives? even if it brings great loss to the enemy kamikazes were born out of desperation and one pilot in a bomb strapped plane
was far more efficient in destroying ships then rebuilding their almost destroyed navy
You can't complain about the Geneva Conventions when you use them as the Geneva Suggestions.
This is the second short I've seen in 5 minutes with the exact same script from different youtubers
Whatever crime could be commited, soldiers from all walks of life have commited it.
Bro this gave me WaW flashbacks
Waw on veteran is a genuine nightmare
The Japanese were ruthless but Hiroshima told them no
Avatar Korra Americans in Pacific War?
Code Geass Lost Stories Japanese in Pacific War?
and that’s why we blew them up with the most powerful weapon ever created at the time
Weebs quickly defending Japan like they didn't just raped and killed so many people. I saw old footage of my people being decapitated, yet people still say that America were the monsters for dropping that nuke. Fk that
Selfishness from both sides of the war
One thing that is almost never talked about is that the Canadians in ww2 took no prisoners after the discovery of the death camps, any surrendering German soldier was killed in an “accident” really just lined up and executed and left in ditches no honours just left to rot, like they did to the people in those camps, and before you go and say “well not all German soldiers were willing combatants” you find people emaciated, beaten and tortured, you see the flag that did that, you really think those soldiers cared? You really think that they still saw people with the Nazi uniforms as human? You think they would have stopped and asked each person “hi are you a willing or unwilling combatant?” Because the answer they get would almost always be “yes” out of fear and hope that there life would be spared, so no your bleeding heart argument for social justice dose not quite fit here
Some soldiers that were Nazis were force. Not all. But a good handful of them from other countries against their will. There's a movie where two guys were force to fight for the Nazis during D-Day and begged to surrender once the Americans arrive. But immediately release that it was not an option once they began to be shot at due to what they just gone through on the beach. Also the Hitler Youth is another great example of being force into battle and action. But the allies would try their best to not harm the Hitler Youth kids once they release it was just a bunch of little kids, but immediately executed their SS officers for making kids fight in a war for them which was rightfully deserve. Same with Japan. They took over islands and made the locals fight against U.S. during the island hopping. Most of the ages of those force to fight for Japan was 14 to 16 years old and was so low in rank that a private Japan soldier outrank them.
@@milk3262 I think we are in agreement? But you seem more familiar with the USA history,
@@IceFoxPlaysActual I'm on no side of the war. War is war. Both sides are gonna do horrible stuff in the end. If I was chosen to pick a side, it'll be the allies, even though that just destroyed my response saying I'm on no side. But the axis literally committed such war crimes that was completely unnecessary like the Rape Of Nanking from Japan. That entire "battle" was completely unnecessary and was just flat out cruel. Plus being in the allies shoes and seeing what they did is almost impossible to just not execute the people they capture after what they saw and what they did. Yeah, I'm American so I understand a lot more from our side. So I honestly think it's pretty funny seeing people fight about stuff in the U.S. or out of the U.S. without taking the time to understand the two biggest wars in our history that fixes a lot of the issues in the future. But no one understands that cause they don't wanna go into debt for it or even learn about it. Like their rights and the meaning of it behind it. Plus U.S. does stuff in advance to think about doing something and the outcome of it. So it's almost more funny hearing people complain about the nuke in Japan when it takes little effort to understand why.
My father served in the 8th Armored Division, he said one time that after they liberated a camp they never took SS prisoners. He told a few war stories, but that was as far as he would go and I don’t think it ever bothered him.
@@AMD7027 American 8th armoured? Right I’m remembering my history correctly?
US Army training requirements. DONT DIE SOLDER. IF YOU DIE WALK IT OFF. ima be honest i kinda want to protect my homeland and my Family now
Japan: Lets not...
Dude Japan committed the same amount of war crimes and crimes against humanity during the war as much as the Germans if not more so. Theirs a reason why Japanese POWs were rare to see they showed no mercy and in return deserved none in return.
I always assumed Americans did horrible things to Japanese prisoners because the Americans were racist. I guess there is such a thing as anti-American propaganda. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
Racism is overblown 90% of the time.
There could have been a racism involved, but it's difficult to blame them when you analize some of the atrocities
What? 😂
Not only the Japanese, hell so many soldiers from other countries did the same including booby traps
I understand an example of perfidy on the part of a German soldier was why the US/Canada FSSF were not taking prisoners during the fight for Monte la Difensa in December 1943.
I think it’s because the devils brigade fought in that battle and they where a special forces unit so they couldn’t take prisoners as they where to move in and out quite quickly
I saw a video once about sea rescues by submarines. They would pick up sunken ship survivors, airmen who had to ditch at sea, and the like. They had heard so many tales about the Japanese who would kill all allied men who had survived their ship sinking or their plane being shot from the sky and others. They would gun them down in the water, or bring them aboard their ship to torture, behead, and whatever else. So in this sub rescue video I saw, sailors were encouraged to shoot any Japanese that were found adrift in the sea, and our guys were glad to do it. The Japanese military were devils, and that’s putting it nicely.
Always remember, the Japanese never surrender unless you hit them with the sun twice
Goes to show how powerful they were
@@Basedlocation rather how stubborn
Remember, war has no rules. The object is to win.
There are cases when prisoners cannot be taken because it would tie up members of the team in order to guard them. War is hell.
They are all to blame...both sides committed war crimes only the winners got to write who is right and wrong 😑
The Rape of Nanking, Unit 731, the Burmese Death March, my guy these people were fucking monsters playing at being human
Yes but the Americans didn't purposely kill 20 million Chinese Citizens have they?
You got a point there
Lol japanese remind me of my little brother🤣🤣🤣
During a nerf war
The stockpile of purple hearts we use today was created to award the troops who participated in the invasion of Japan. We knew what they were about and prepared, then the sun was dropped on them twice
The germans were actually notorious for this in ww1 and ww2. The other thing that many are not aware is that germans were also notorious in both wars for booby trapping stuff. A lot more german soldiers died surrendering on the western front because of this practice than most people realise. In ww1 german machine gun crews became notorious for continuing to fire until they were overrun and then surrendering. It became routine for allied soldiers to kill german machine gunners in that situation. Somedead german machine gunners were found chained to their guns, giving rise to the myth that german machine gunners were prisoners.
The idea of Japanese throwing grenades during surrender is interesting. The type 97 grenade used by the japanese had no firing lever (some call it a spoon) and it was therefore impossible to hold one armed and throw it when you wanted to - you could only arm it and throw it. If you didnt throw it straight after after arming it it would explode in your hand
Arming the type 97 required the user to bang the top of the firing cap on something hard - very hard, because the 97 was notorious for not arming unless you bashed it really hard. You could not arm a type 97 by hitting it on any part of your body - a body is too soft to arm the type 97 grenade; most japanese soldiers armed a type 97 by banging it hard on their helmets (which became a sound allied soldiers in the pacific learned to identify as a grenade coming their way).
So even a fully dressed japanese soldier - without his helmet (which often were not worn in the pacific) - could not, in practice, arm and throw a type 97. Nor could they do that while surrendering without banging the grenade on a helmet or a rock.
Which raises an interesting question of how, exactly, a japanese soldier could actually successfully throw a grenade while surrendering. Because it would be very obvious what they were doing (unless laying down on a hard surface) and there would be plenty of time to shoot anyone in the process of arming a type 97.
All those paragraphs instead of just watching a video of a Japanese soldier doing what you described on CZcams
RIP 💐 🙏 All who died in WWII ❤️ 🕊 🇵🇭
However in ww1 someone spared a surrendering soldier that later caused war world 2
it depends when they throw down their arms. a soldier who drops his weapon only as the other side is closing with them, it is not a war crime to kill them at that moment.
And this is why Hamas is forced to strip. Why would Israel want to risk others lives
Every time i hear different ways Japanese soilders played dirty i feel less and lees bad for Hiroshima
No good guys in war, Japan was bad, America was bad. Everyone is bad.
So ironic the Japanese were so obsessed with honor yet were the easily the most prone to cowardly dishonorable actions like these
Japanese also canabalised POW's. Not all of them of course.
YES!! Absolutely if they refused to strip and kept walking towards the Marines then Absolutely! EVERY Marine was taught the Japanese words for hault! Drop it! Come out! Come here! And Strip! There was no language barrier for that order!! They were also taught We will not murder you! There were 11 phases they had to learn in Japanese I don't remember the rest.
Trying to find morality in an immoral situation is like polishing a turd.. it's still a turd.
It's not so much a matter of trying to find morality as trying to impose some.
no you should not attack French soldiers
quite funny, I'll give you that.
My dad served in New Guinea and rarely talked about his experiences there, however he did mention the "tricks" the Japanese used that forced the Americans to ask for no quarter and offer none. He said "Nobody was proud of killing an unarmed man, but we'd lost so many guys to Japanese that were supposedly surrendering, that it became a common practice to shoot first and apologize later. Not to mention the treatment of our guys that surrendered....or tried to"
This is why many allied soldiers never gave a damn and mowed down entire units of surrendering japanese soldiers because of how common they would hide explosives on them not to mention the worst atrocities in the entire history of humanity 😂😂😂
That's treacherous behaviour, which does not pay off in the end.
Which is why perfidy is often "punished" on the spot.
never knew bushido was so honorable
But they aren't really surrending when they've already planned the attack/ambush. Fair game.
Imagine that there is a female japanese soldier surrendering
😈
It’s a tradition where they say to take many of them with you before you die samurai
And then the US followed the samurai way too by dropping sh1t tons of napalm bombs & 2 atomic bombs.
"Please, don't shoot!"
"Nah fuck you I know yo tricks buddy"
"What tricks? We are German! I surrender completely-"
*intense machine gun fire*
Never seen that in the bushido code.
Japanese surrender to filipinos? I don't think so
Perfidy seems worse then killing a surrendering enemy too me. It can be hard to stop and not shoot when another person tries to surrenders after being in a life or death fight with them, so I'm sure some were shot bc the person that shot them was still in combat mode and didn't notice they were surrendering and not fighting anymore. I'm sure more ppl do it on purpose when they kill a surrendering enemy tho, but perfidy is completely a conscious choice no one accidently kills another person while trying to surrendering to them, they've already decided that's what they are going to do before they expose themselves and fake surrender to get as close as possible or set them up for others hiding nearby to attack them.
The more I watch about ww2 the more I lean into the conclusion that Japan deserved those nukes.
Nukes only worked because the Emperor was still alive. If he was killed by a bombing campaign Japan would never surrender
Japanese soldiers k!led US troops
And US troops k!led Japanese civilians.
USA actually justify their crimes by showing what others did blows my mind
@@AshfaqurBF I see this point time and time again and it really irks me, more japanese civilians would have died of America did a land invasion. The Japanese civilians were trained to fight American soldiers with bamboo sticks. Japanese mothers jumped off of cliffs with their babys at Iwo Jima because Japanese propaganda said the Americans would do horrible things to any civilians they caught. The Japanese would brutally torture their POWs and play catch with babys, however they would catch them on bayonets. If you would like me to elaborate on any of this or give you more information about how savage the Japanese were please just reply to me.
Every time I wake up sad I think about two nukes that USA dropped on Japan then I smile
@@AshfaqurBF the Japanese murdered millions of civilians, they tortured prisoners of war and performed some of the most depraved and inhumane experiments on living people, in alot of ways they were worse than the nazis and people always give them a pass like they were victims.
When that happens to an anti tank crew and they have their hands up they just get ran over
I was told by a man who was in the 4th Marine Division (Kwajalein, Saipan, Iwo Jima) that there was no such thing as a Japanese POW.
The japanese were ruthless
Japanese didn’t surrender even the civilians killed them selves rather than surrender
Fort William Henry flashbacks
It’s usually better to accept surrenders not because of the moral aspect but for enemy morale purposes
It’s called double tap before moving past them.
Take no prisoners. Problem solved.
Everything is fair in love and war
Yeah, the allies we're Angels...WE know the Drill...
Literally saw this exact video with text to speech
We should stop talking based on speculation. They too fought for their friends and family.
Surrender acceptance is at the discretion of the reciever, not those who surrender. There are rulrs to warfare, but the Japanese regularly violated them... so did some of the Germans.
The Finns dealt with Reds doing this during the Finnish civil war by killing all the officers and 1 in 5 soldiers, randomly.
Its not a war crime if there is nobody left to report it.