Straw Bale Electrical
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2010
- Kindra Welch, owner and chief builder with Clay Sand Straw, demonstrates one method to install electrical wiring in a straw bale house.
This method is not applicable in all jurisdictions. There are a variety of published codes and methods. The main goal of this method is to recess the wires a minimum of 2" behind the finish wall surface as in typical construction. Also, as in typical construction, conduit is not generally used because of its significant cost. If you want to use conduit, the flexible blue "smurf pipe" is generally the choice for bale building. As a mid point, some prefer to use the grey direct burial wire instead of standard romex.
In all cases, it is the inspector who will make the final determination and they should be contacted prior to installation. - Jak na to + styl
This "chick" is booked solid for the next 6 years she is in such high demand.
She has a masters in architecture from Rice University and everything always surpasses code and passes all inspections. Every project surpasses the engineers guidelines and the local codes.
Our local building authority required that there be a thermal break between the wire and the bale. Just work with your county building authority and use them as a resource. They will help you to make sure your house plans are code compliant BEFORE you start building. If you view them as a resource instead of an obstacle, your project will go much smoother.
What did that turn out to be ? Conduit, outdoor wire?
Great video. I'm to old to build one of these homes but I really like learning about them. I have to say... her baby was enjoying the camera.. I think a future movie star. :) Thanks for sharing this. Maybe some day zoning will allow these homes.
You should use small pvc pipe so if you have to rewire the wall you can wire pull new wire through. Also the wire is protected.
Just because you hand built your house using simple materials like local rocks, straw & wood...
doesn't mean you can't have modern comforts. BEFREEFILM shot this excellent tutorial on running
electrical wiring through a straw bale structure with guidance from Kindra Welch, owner and chief builder with Clay
Sand Straw. Her wedge systems is easy & affordable. Check it out for yourself.
yea, I was just about to ask that question about rewiring. But that sounds like a good answer. I wonder if she has run into that problem after the plaster is up; and how she delt with it.
Doing my research on " wiring a straw bale house for dummies " and I have sat and watched your video. Great job with great info. One comment. NEC (national electric code) state NMS (typical romex) shall not be used where covered in plaster. Alternative would be type UF cable but it must be multiconductor. Not nick picking just trying to help. Other than that thanks for doing this video we will be using these ideas on our first job and hopefully many to come.
The wiring is several inches away from the plaster.
yes..but it is close to the straw....so coating noninflamabel...ciment? doble plasturing...and in between ia a nonimfamable coating?
Is there reason you are placing the gang box so high? Just wondering because most code requires 48" on-center for the box. Thanks for the video!
great video thanks!
I live in San Antonio. Do you have any projects going on where I can see the house house under way. It seems very do-able. I am inclined to try a cob lower half, straw upper story, but, I would like to see how this works. Don
how difficult is it to get local officials to approve electrical and plumbing(rough and finish) work? I'd love to build a combination cob and straw bail home on some property we own. Do they typically require approvals for cottages or green houses?
in Australia would the details in the video be correct or would the require pvc coduit as per there code,even if not necesary there are certain regulation ,also would it be ok for the home builder to do all the work themselves then have it checked by electrician
How do you buy your straw? We are in the planning process and we are having difficulty locating a quality product. Do you have any suggestions? When we talk to some sellers of straw the bales are actually mixed bales of different products to be used as fee.
I live in llano my mom is wanting to try this on a small scale as a play house learning lesson, can u give us some pointers?
Name calling, cussing, screaming and ignorance is no way to learn and expand your world. We created this video for the electrical contractors that were unaccustomed to working on straw bale construction and therefore gave very high bids. An electrical contractor had come unannounced when no-one was at the job-site and improperly wired the house. That seemed like a good time for an instructional video.
True
very content bub!
thats exactly what i was thinking throughout watching this video :D Great minds think alike do they not :D
@BrokenRRT its not a switch box, its a light box.....
Ok at 1st I was doubtful but this woman is smart
Ты проста умнеца!!!
Would the electrical inspector want to see the romex secured within 12" of each box? NEC Section 314.17(C) how would you satisfy that requirement in straw?
Sandwiched between bales of hay is rather secure
Whats that shes carrying with a round head?
gee I wonder what it can be
@storminmorgan0311 I asked this very question to a lady in Tucson. She said it was code in some places NOT to use any conduit because of moisture. Some re saying it causes condensatation I call bullshit!
why don't use a pipe bamboo pipes to protect the electric cables
wouldn't cutting your bale weaken it structurally?
haha i see you everywhere on these strawbale videos
Sakima King lol. yup, this is my current area of interest, along with bio pools. and I'm gathering all the information I need in order to make them happen. you'll find me everywhere. 😁
woah just searched biopools, definitely gonna search more on that topic and if you find a great article or video on how to build a straw bale home lmk lol.
Sakima King have you searched Andrew Morrison or John Cahill? I've purchased both of their instructional dvds and they're great. plenty of information to work with! ps...bio pools are incredible. David Pagan Butler is a good resource on that topic. happy building! 😀
Thanks alot. ill most definitely check them out. and same to you (:
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I would never use metal electrical boxes for residential if I could help it. . Plastic is much easier to attach and you don't have to ground the box because it doesn't conduct electricity.
Self Grounding switches & Receptacles
สงสาร baby จัง hahaha
I was under the impression that building codes suggest the use of pipes to hold the wiring? someone says pvc above, but i thought copper. either way, this is wrong.
bamboo might snag the wire if re-run
@storminmorgan0311 not necessary and uses a a material thats not wanted or needed. If you choose to use conduit it is of course your choice but this method is just as fine..
3 minutes in:
i wanted to comment and say that maybe this could work for: if the cable horizontal holding the bale snapped, how to remody it before its too late.
would this work? this is what i would do.
Put a board up and brace or lean on it, get another string that can be tied to the bale twine. tie a stoper knot (figure 8) on both ends, and get that other piece of string. tie it into the tail end on one side, something like a nother stopper knot. anything. a bow line. then on the other side with a bow line, make it into a truckers hitch and pull tight. this is what i would do
Good idea although not necessarily enviromentally friendly.
I want new ppl to enjoy the rest of my life with and build my own house.....please help me? I am willing to move to any state, but dont know where to find you or anyone like you. I am 40 with some health issues but do drive and am ready..just myself and a dashhound in tow. I am normal and can walk and lift and move.
The straw's outside will burn but then it smoulders and goes out because it's like trying to burn a phone book.
What a sweet baby
I was going to say COULDN'T WATCH THE PROGRAM BECAUSE "HEY LADY YOU DO NOT CARRY A BABY LIKE A SACK OF POTATOES, GOID GREIF.
You are a sad snowflake that has no idea what they are talking about.
Mothers have carried their kids like that since before recorded history. We should all be crippled by your theory, but we aren't. Kids are tougher than you think.
So cute baby. I had to rewind the video a couple of times to hear what you said....:)
I would think they would use a conduit.
Romex wire should not be used in this fashion. By spending a little more money on Conduit you can ensure safety and haev more peace of mind. No matter where you are using conduit is the top tier of code policy and you will not fail unless you do not know how to place it. Since Electric is potentially dangerous it is very wise to know how to or hire a knowledgable contractor.
You must have much looser electrical codes there than we do here in Canada. Here code states the wire to be armor plated
its not safe to make electrical contact with straw ....
and why is that?
i often had matter wit that wall filling/ on historlical german Frams that is often beween the wood ther wail farmer used the substaineses they had on ther Farm , also Chalk sand laim Plaster with cow hair all ok butr not wehn it went wet or some insect thatrs misalin with the organic living that hapen with mibes as else , softstone concret is the lowest building stone i prefer.
I would use PVC or some sort of conduit this doesn't seem too safe, if your gonna build a house you might as well spend a few extra bucks and be safer.
Would you use conduit in a wood framed house?
I don't think she knows she has a baby
haha! he's just kind of an afterthought dangling there.
russ carney they have heard of the sling.. but so used to slinging guns on the hip since the wild west was invaded. #530years
Looked very natural to me. Maybe you are used to a Nannie and a silver spoon with perfect tv version angles to satisfy your snowflake mind! Hes not a afterthought and shes not some hick from the wild west. You ladies need to harden up a bit!
@Bill Simmons The irony is right!
OK then if you say so
lady your holding ur kid wrong
it's old enough to lift it's head
And you are some kind of child carrying expert?
I'm a retired Master Electrician, I would never bid a job for Straw bale, but then I was never needing work like this.
Frustrating, no sound...?
A ground fault on that wire with burn that house down with the wire buried in straw. NM wire is dangerous on that maybe if those hippies get a real job they can put that wire in some emt so their opium dens won't burn down when they plight in faulty lava lamps and black lights.
I am not a fan of straw bale construction at all, but I can tell you that I haven't heard of a problem with straw bale houses catching fire.
Mortimer you sound like an unnecessarily jaded near useless pile of urbanite.
you are gonna damage that childs spine.
I think you need to grow one yourself.
@@LitoGeorge wow finger on the pulse!! razor sharp response to a three year old comment. yawn ...
@@paulevetts9771 you said it, stand by it - you spineless wonder. Typical of your lack of substance to try weasel out from a comment based on time. You have the emotional maturity of a 1 year old.
@@LitoGeorge oooh, i completely stand by my statement. the spinal health of that child WAS being compromised. what about it???. what you going to do? you clown. . you dont know me so how would you know anything about substance or maturity. i can quite confidently say that your maturity and substance is quite odd. almost weird . in fact such a reaction to a 3 year old comment on a shitty video of a boring subject verges on bigoted. most people care about child welfare , you seem to be obsessed with the honour of the "mother" in the video. quite creepy.
you have the literary skills of a one year old. your "put down" was quite limp and aimless. 3out of 10. very poor.
You hold your baby like a sack , I bet that makes your child’s neck strained .pick your baby up right and treat your child like they are human . You did in your info video ,by ignoring your child . I don’t think you said much of interest , do to your mistake of how you choose to ignore the baby human your carried around with no concern .
You are a sad snowflake that has no idea what they are talking about.
A master's is architecture doesn't mean s@&t when your dealing with safe wiring methods. To veganfemale I am in no way opposed to Alternative building methods as long as it doesn't compromise safety. To heatherngillis there are no codes for wiring straw bale houses maybe if you we're in the industry you would know that this house is built in unincorporated area to skirt around building codes.
Why is she holding her baby like a football?
how would that save the poor childs spinal injury?. lol
to whoever listens and reads this.....I am reaching out..help!!!!! I live in virginia,,,,a much over rated political state that likes to be patted on the back for their support with the homeless. Charlottesville va, where I live built a building for the homeless and low income citizens. The first 10 apts, on the first floor were for the homeless. I applied and was denied for lack of sufficent income.. ??????????I live off of ss and disability less then 700 a month. I was denied housing?????????