How to sound like David Gilmour on a budget - Boss SD-1
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- čas přidán 2. 09. 2018
- In this video we'll examine the classic Boss SD-1. Is it capable of replicating David Gilmour's Tube Driver tones?
The SD-1 came out of the OD-1 - one of the first ever compact overdrive pedals. Like the Tube Screamer, it has a noticeable mids boost but a tad more low end and gain.
The SD-1, like the Tube Screamer, needs a bit of hair from the amp otherwise it tends to sounds thin and dull. I've set the Laney Lionheart up for just a tiny amount of gain - not much but enough for the tubes to add a bit of compression.
Is the SD-1 capable of replicating David Gilmour's Tube Driver tones? Well, you tell me but for a fraction of the price of the Tube Drive and the fact that just about any guitar store carries these, the SD-1 offer a very affordable and great sounding alternative.
I've added a bit of delay with a TC Electronic Flashback set up with 440ms and 7 repeats. At the end of the clip, I've added a Boss CE-2 chorus for a bit of that mid 90s flavour.
As always, let me know what you think in the comment field below.
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Signal chain:
Guitar - Fender Stratocaster, with D Allen Voodoo 69 neck and middle pickups and Seymour Duncan SSL5 bridge pickup.
Amp - Laney Lionheart L20H, Laney LT212 cabinet with Celestion V30 speakers
Mic - Sennheiser e906
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My SD-1 and OD-2 sat in the closet for many years. I used to be tempted by every new specialty/ boutique overdrive on the market until I realized it all really comes down to two things, gain stacking and EQ. If you have two basic overdrives, each with at least a treble and bass control rather than just a tone knob, then you can get from edge of breakup all the way to super compressed fuzz tones. Add any old graphic EQ pedal, one in front of and one behind those two overdrives and you can theoretically sculpt almost any overdrive tone you desire. My experimenting began with running my OD-2 into my Way Huge Green Rhino so that I could recover the bottom end that the Boss shelved off. My advice to anyone is to dig into and experiment with whatever you’ve got lying around before starting a big collection of OD pedals, each just for one particular sound.
This is excellent. Boss makes my favorite drive pedals... They sound excellent and you cannot break them. If they were more expensive people would think they sounded better lol... Well played sir, keep the tones coming.
A million per cent, they would (think the sd1 better if it were more expensive)! In Marketing, we call that (price) a surrogate indicator of quality. i. e. Expensive=good, cheap=crap. It's reinforced, correctly, so much that we, as consumers, simply cannot accept that cheap can equal good, let alone the best.
So if Boss wanted to be like every other capitalist pig, they could increase the price by 250%, hand paint generic dyi stomp box kits and name them some ridiculous thinly veiled sexual innuendo that just oozes bad taste.... and watch the internet break giving them 5star reviews. Well. That's how it plays out in a Marketers daydream anyway. In reality, such a play would likely work, short term at least.
I don't know about everyone else, but I own boss style compact fx boxes, and I own boutique pedals. Both good tones. But for physical function, boss boxes (sd1, or ts9 - not "boss," but same style) are the most comfortable and convenient to stomp. Imean , who wants to aim the soft underbelly of their foot at a metal rod that looks like the nine inch nail coming out of Jesus' feet?!
Boss= best. Even Josh at jhs says it. Therefore it IS GOSPEL!! 🤗
🧐
Can't break them?!
Challenge. Accepted.
@@lueyteledeluxe7457 Oh yes, the price gouging Hypnosis trick; very interesting Mind Control there. I believe the Lego corporation did the same when they were in financial straits by raising their prices to unreasonable levels to make themselves seem more "high end" or "luxury" and therefore somehow more "desirable". There are definitely enough REALLY crappy and ridiculously overpriced "Luxury" vehicles out there that will reliably leave you constantly stranded or dealing with safety recalls. That's why not everyone will just buy a Supremely reliable Toyota like a 4Runner, Corolla or Camry: Marketing Illusions of Grandeur or the "need for speed" aka getting your license revoked.
Amazing playing, the end solo captured all the key riffs from Gilmour’s classic solos.
Thank you!
I've had my Boss SD-1 since 1981 and I love it. I have run mine thru my Engl Fireball amplifier or my Vox amplifier with excellent results.
Yes, it sounds better thru a clean-ish amplifier. It's all about the amp, amp settings, pedal settings, so on and si forth. A pedal does not always sound the same thru every amplifier or guitar.
it's almost coming back to life, he's playing like gilmour did on the division bell, awesome, i loved it
Thank you!
I'm convinced that Bjorn could probably make a potato sound gilmourish
LOL nice one
Bjorn would probably beat David Gilmour in a sound like David Gilmour contest
Hahahaha very true
@@vincentbull 😂
Tomorrows video: "David Gilmour tone on budget : local shop potato" how close you can get? Let's see. I'm looking forward how gritty he will set Lionheart this time. ;)
That was beautiful and shows the versatility of the overlooked Boss pedals in the Boutique age!
You are the first/original Gilmour - tones CZcams channel guy and is still the best. Super cool guy too. I just bought this Boss SD1 (since the BK Butler Tube Driver costs so much) and I love it. Thank you Bjorn from LOWELL- (Boston, Ma USA)
Cheers!
This is such a lovely interpretation of CBTL….it’s great to play along to.🎸🎸🎸
I have the SD-1 and Tube Screamer TS-9 on my board. I also have the EVH 5150 Overdrive by MXR. It’s very versatile.
Thanks Bjorne, just purchased one, can’t wait to plug in 🤙
By far your best demo. Congrats. Greetings from Spain.
Thank you!
Bjorn, you're just the best - an inspiration - love the vids, love the website - immaculate playing and the sound is consistently spot-on
Thank you!
Just checked and I do have an SD,1 it's stashed away in a cupboard, thought I recognized it in the thumbnail. However I don't remember it sounding as good as this.
Another great Gilmour on a budget video! Might have to get me a SD1.
I use it all the time, my fave overdrive pedal ever!
Thanks Bjorn.
This is interesting as these paddles or similar are built-in the Boss ME-80 and am now using your tips here and your website to exploit the ME-80.
Thanks again.
Cheers!
One of my all time favorite pedals. THE original overdrive. Very over looked, and underated. Still the absolute best pedal to tighten up a loose and flabby amp. The trick to the SD1 is to get the amp as close as possible to the sound you are looking for and let the pedal get you the rest of the way. On a different note I'll add, way before the boutique overdrive pedal explosion with pedals costing $200 and more. No pedal, not even the Tubescreamer got you that tight aggressive metal sound quite like the SD1 can, and I have both brands and many more. Just ask Zack Wylde. Nice job reintroducing a legend to the masses.
Thanks! Yep seeing Zakk using the SD1 is what got me into it.
Well said. The waza ones are even more flexible
I agree with Hobo Joe. Nonetheless, what an absolutely wonderful and useful demonstration of the pedal. I salute you, Sir!
Congratulations for the budget pedal vídeos. Please make a vídeo about Ibanez TS9!
Very cool idea. Thanks from LES
PF Fan since 1973
If that PF stands for Peter Frampton, God bless you my brother. I've been a serious guitarist for over 30 years and no player has moved me like Frampton. It's beyond music for me. Comes Alive is part of my soul. Rock On!
@@t-boog2173 No, my friend, it is Pink Floyd ! But, indeed, Frampton is in my Top 10 too. 'Comes alive' is one of the best albums oat. He taught me in 1979, what a Les Paul is !!! Greets from LES
Love the SD1!
I have a sd1 for yer's in my board with a valveking clean, and...it's magnific ! It's sound great every were in any amp...! Boss pedals are great , i have 9 of them...!
I have one of these and I’ve never really liked it but I’m going to set it up like him now!
Depends on the amp, settings and pickups but it's a very versatile pedal.
Great demo. I hear the Celestion V30 a lot and its association with the SD-1 gives a nice tone.
Beautiful! Thanks man
great video as always. I would like to see a video on the ehx crayon.
Coming up!
Hi Bjorn! I am so glad you started this video series on getting David's tones with Boss pedals. This is very useful to everyone and much more accessible. Thank you so much and keep up your excellent work! Boss DD3 next?
Thanks for the kind words!
DD3 or DD6 next please
Any chance you can do some big Muff Stacking demos or combos from Boss etc
DD-7! No, DD-5!
Wait, it's obvious. DD-1 and DD-4 :P
Very, very rare. ;)
After a minute or so, i forgot all about the SD-1 and focused on the great playing.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for making this Channel 🤙
Cheers!
SD1 is the best od pedal in the world. Its cheap, well made and sounds awesome. It does boosting really well and also makes a decent drive tone on its own. Plus its tour friendly since the cover isnt plastic like some of the inexpensive pedals are.
beautiful
Bjørn doing his thing again great video for moneyless people like me :v unfortunately i don’t have an SD1 in the back of my closet
Hope for more gilmour budget video
greate playing and thought
Thanks!
Excellent, entertaining and information as always Bjorn. Could you follow up with a comparison to a tube screamer sometime soon? Thanks!
The Laney Lionheart is a great amp, I have the L5 Studio head and in my opinion it's the best low wattage valve amp on the market for those who want valve amp tones at home.
Love it!
Great playing‼️
Great tone‼️
After watching the video, I bought SD-1 :)
excellent job again thank you.....i still can not get right the fuzz sound and right now i found the boss fuzz fz-5 could you check it out in future.thanks a lot
I use the sd1 daily to boost a marshall, love it
Classic combination :)
Right? I tried about 7-8 OD pedals in front on my 2525. All of them more $$$ than the SD1 and I just kept coming back to the SD1. For
Some reason it just sounds perfect w/ my Marshall. Bizarre but it is what it is. 🤷🏻♂️🤘🏼
Thanks for the video.
Once that chorus hit I was immediately reminded of The Final Cut
Thank you Björn. Your channel is a gift for us Floyd fans ;)
Thank you!
Budget or not, SD-1 is great and pretty much a must-have
Really enjoying your Gilmour on a budget videos. Can you provide any guidance on using amp sims? I use an old Line 6 Pod 2.0 to record. So any insight on being more Gilmourish would be appreciated, thank you.
Wonderful
Have a boss sd1 love it
Bravo!
Nice.And i like the Eric Johnson neck on that strat.
Bob Redford It’s Johnson-ish, but no label
My board got CS2 BD2 SD1 E-Lady and DD20
Thanks :)
Thanks for the info
That's a good board. You can do more with less (despite what Yngwie Malmsteen said)
Matt Gilbert will add russian big muff later
Thank You Björn for keeping these tones alive! Is it possible to cover some of Davids 80s Sound? Especially his almost metal-styled Solos during the "about face"/"momentary Lapse" period.
Those are hard to replicate because he used a combination of a Boss HM2 into a Mesa Boogie MkI for leads. You could get a similar tone with an overdrive replacing the Mesa but that setup is unique. He also used a lot of chorus in those days.
Ive got a ProCo Rat and a GK 250 ML amplifier. But the compression and the overdrive of the GK are very noisy, but the sound works sometimes.
You videos are always inspiring
Grethings!
I have that one and the blues driver for that double tube driver combo.
Can you recommend me one, I just have money for one
@@elvan12581 what do you play? they are very different. It really depends on what type of gain you are looking for.
@@andrelousada ok so, I want to pair either the SD1 or BD2 with a mooer elady an mxr carbon copy or TC flashback...
I want to get those 80s ballad tones and some of gilmours work after the mid 80s
I have a strat with EMG DG20s pups and a Blackstar HT5 amp
So... I'm so lost between the BD 2 and SD1
@@elvan12581 You will be happier with a SD1 I guess. More useful gain for from a David Gilmour perspective. Leave some money for a RAT and a Big Muff! :)
@@elvan12581 Those about face tones you probably can get with a RAT.
Hello! Could you test the Tube King TK99US as a tube driver/color sound replacement? The versions from the mid 90s were patented by B.K. Butler.
I don't have any experience with those but based on the review I've read and heard, you should be able to dial some convincing Tueb Driver'ish tones with it I guess.
Great sound! Really inspiring. What chord progression were you soloing to? Id love to play like that...
Thanks! That's loosely based on Pink Floyd's Coming Back to Life.
Thanks for another great video. Have you seen the new release of the The Electro-Harmonix Triangle Big Muff Pi? I'm sure is a new great option for Gilmourish like us. Thanks for this video
I'll make a review if they send me one. But yes, it should be a great alternative to the Gilmour sound.
I love it!
My equipment is dusted since years but I wanna get it out soon because of a brillant street musician I saw covering Gil.
I have
Ibanez RG321
Boss ME70
Vox Valvetronic Amp
And I should also have some Elexir Strings somewhere.
Do you think I can create some decent Gilmour Sound with that?
Thanks man and keep up the good work!
Yeah the ME70 should have a SD1 setting specifically
Gods! sometimes simple does it. great video Bjorn.
Thanks!
Hello amazing playing!! Could you also do a demo of your black strat? Whenever you go from your neck to bridge it does not seem like a big volume jump? I thought having an SSL-5 would be tough to balance out because of the output? Im interested to hear your thoughts? Thank you
Thanks for the tip! I’ll try to do a video of the guitar in the future. I’ve tried to balance the pickups so that the level should be even bit the SSL 5 has more mids and compression that makes it cut though more...
Hi Bjorn, excellent work here again, thanks!!! If I may ask, was the CE2 before or after the SD1? Thanks!!
Thanks! The CE-2 was placed after.
Nice
I'm sure you've seen EHX is re issuing the triangle big muff. Hoping to see a review from you.
Hope t have a review up as soon as the pedal hits the street.
Hi Bjørn. Nice video of the SD-1. That helped me out a lot. Will you also make a video of the Boss DS-1 distortion, to see if you can recreate Gilmour sounds?
Take så mycket!
Yep
Yep, that works! Underrated pedal, ye olde SD-1. Very nice, Bjorn.
One thing I always wanted to ask: with a delay like TC Flashback, Boss DD-7, any small pedal that doesn't have a readout for delay time, how is it that you can set the delay time so precisely (eg: 300ms)? Do you just take the maximum delay time "sweep" (for want of a better word) then work out roughly where 300ms is on the knob? I use a DD-7, for example I want to do Run Like Hell dotted 8ths part. I select 800ms mode, then I would set the delay time knob to where I think 440 ms (is it 440?) liies, is that sort of right?
Sorry for the vague wording, I haven't had enough coffee this morning. But I'm slowly coming back to....
Matt Gilbert , check out Bjorn’s recent delay video where he instructs you to use a virtual pedal in garage band (or software of choice i.e. AmpliTube) and set the time on the delay there. Next match your actual delay to the to the virtual delay and mark your pedal so you know where it is in the future.
Sweet
Wow ! Most of the videos on CZcams of this pedal they sound thin and trebly, the tone in this video is pure magic !! So creamy and fat and lush !!
Thank you!
I would appreciate if you could let me know with which pedals the guitar tone in the final solo of the song Comfortably numb was made.
Check out my site for all the details
www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=20
i know you can find all Gilmour sounds in boutique pedals and you have shown amazingly that it can be done with less expensive Boss pedals...but what about other affordable pedals brands? Like Fulltone or Way Huge?
or possibly even the tier below that...such as the Outlaw Effects brand pedals? if it is possible i believe that you can find a way to apply them to the Gilmour style
Well there are a ton of different budget brands and pedals out there. I’ve always tried to stress the importance of putting your money into a good guitar and amp rather than expensive pedals but it all comes down to knowing how to use and set up everything.
Buying expensive pedals and not having a good guitar or amp is like putting expensive high performance tires on a cheap car . Something like that ..Lol
Nice playing by the way .
New Jersey , USA
gilmourish riis l
HI BJORN !!! Nice to see you .Have you done my C6 MOD ?? (remove or bypass with a switch the capacitor C6 ) . Less compression, no mid boost and sound like a natual overdrive (tube drive). !!! SMACK !! TRY IT !!
Thanks for the tip!
Great demonstration! Do you think one could use a SD1 to cover some of the tones from the Colorsound Powerboost era? Also- as far as budget pedals go, ya gotta check out the TC Tube Pilot. It’s like a very scaled down Tube Driver, imho, and with the right set up can get you some great Gilmour Tube Driver tones.
The BD2 is much closer to the Powerboost. The SD1 is basically a Tube Screamer, with lots of compression and mid range. Quite the oposite of the Powerboost. Check out my review of the BD2 here on my channel :)
gilmourish RIIS thanks!
It looked like the pedal was off the whole time?? The red light was pretty dark haha
cool!
Nice tone , can you yell me do I need a noise supressor if I put this in front of the amp? I have a Marshall 102cfx modelling amp ..thanks !
No I don’t think you need it but it depends on how much distortion you’re using. Noise suppressors often kill the dynamics of your tone. Better to roll back the gain, use shieldrd cables, good quality powering and learn how to turn away from the amp to avoid feedback and your pickups picking up hum.
Nice tones and nice playing Bjorn. Thanks for uploading this! I always liked the SD1 for that mid boosty, smooth compression thing; even better than most tube screamers (except the 808 original). I don‘t think the SD1 sounds anything like the Tube Driver though. It does not produce this insanely rich overtone spectrum that the Tube Driver does, it is more mid focused and it compresses differently (to my ears). You always sound Gilmour‘ish to me through whatever you play because you have the picking and technique down to a science, I guess :-) anyways, thanks again and cheers.
Thanks! It's not a dead on match by any means but given the price and availability I think it's a very good alternative.
gilmourish riis thank you! IMHO the BD-2 is closer to the Tube Driver than the SD1 - I tested it after reading about it on another Website and found it to be true. Nonetheless, the SD1 is a very nice pedal with a hard to beat price/performance ratio (as is the BD2 of course). Thanks again for the nice video.
The BD-2 is definitely closer... as my previous video demonstrates.
@@franknguitars7671 what.. the BD-2 has no boost in the mids,, it retains the highs and lows.. It is far to trebly though at noon.. With single coils , keep the tone knob on the bd-2 at 10 o'clock as a maximum.
I did not say that the BD-2 has a boost in the mids ... it doesn‘t. I love that thing - it sits so well in a band mix, just great. I like the brightness of the BD-2. whether you can take the tone past 10 o clock or not is a matter of how you EQ your amp. I never really go past noon though.
Nice... I have a mid-eighties one, very abused but still functioning. Sounds good enough for me.I wonder if these things will break if you thrown them down from the space station
Probably not... :)
Hello Bjorn, im curious, i know you've mentioned you have a "love/hate" relationship with the BK or the Chandler Tube Driver, and i believe you've never really done a review of it to shoot it against anything else, or just give setting suggestions, any chance you'd consider doing a vid for this someday? Thanks for all the amazing content and music sir! Keep it coming!
Absolutely. It’s high up on the to do list 👍
Great videos, Bjorn - thanks so much. I'd be very curious to see what you'd do with the humble DS-1 and/or a BOSS flanger!
Regards,
Bern
Next one up!
Amazing Tone!
I have one too. Never thought using it for DG stuff. That's the real proof that tone comes from the guitarist himself rather than the gear he uses.
Btw: Where did you got that neck? Beautiful.
Cheers,
Thanks! I've done a piece on the guitar here
www.bjornriis.com/my-gear/1stratocaster/
That strat though.. binding around the fretboard
How would you stack/order an SD-1 with a BD-2? I've had and used both for a long time, but never together, and I feel like I'm missing something.
Depends on what tones you want. With the BD2 last you'll get a nice clean boost while with it first, you'll get more gain and a brighter tone. Try it and decide for yourself.
I am considering purchasing a boss katana 50 and I'm curious if this sound can be dialed in on it. If anyone has experience with this I would love to hear your thoughts.
Not 100%, but close enough... Also he's running through a tube/valve amp.. Katana is not tube. That being said I have run Boss blues driver and a few other pedals through a Katana 50 at Guitar Center.. and for my budget it sounded fine.
Could you please make review of the electro harmonix crayon overdrive ?
It's on the list!
Your work is wonderful ;)
Do CZcams have a vidéo or an article about chorus effect un thé Gilmour sound ?
No but it's on the list to do...
hi Bjorn. as someone who has never owned pedals before, what would be good ones to buy to get a gilmourish tone?
That's a big question :) Start with this feature on my site and do check out the buyer's guides as well :) www.gilmourish.com/?p=7115
perfect sound, what gauge in your beautiful guitar?
10-46
Thank you
The only thing I would quibble with is that the Sd1 sounds thin into a clean amp. Not in my experience, but everyone's ear and setup are different. Love the channel Bjorn 👍
Depends entiry on what amp you're using and how you've set it. As I said in the clip too, although I must say that I prefer the TS808 over the SD-1, the latter has more gain and low end, which makes it more suitable for clean amps and smaller setups but again, it all depends on the amp and settings...
@@gilmourishofficial Bjorn I like them both to be honest. A tubescreamer is tight and compressed even without much gain. The Sd1 is a little more open and scrappy. I've lost count of the amount of expensive ODs I've heard and thought - sounds like an SD 1! Unless they sound like a TS of course...
What settings did you have your CE-2 set at please Bjorn?
I usually have the rate around 12:00 and the depth at 11:00.
Nice. Gonna dust off my SD and give it a go. Very inspirational, thanks.
just bought a Pigtone Super Overdrive for 20€s, copy or not, loads of gain, I use it for slight drive jazzy soloing...
Hi Bjorn, what do you think which is better for Dave Gilmour's overdriven tones: the bd-2 or the sd-1?
BD2 for sure. Very similar to the Tube Driver.
@@gilmourishofficial thank you :))
Great timing. I've recently dusted mine off and forgot how good it is with a Marshall. It's like bacon and eggs. Thinking about getting the waza version for those extra tones and removing the tone suck that the old one does when bypassed. Apparently the waza doesn't do that
My favourite version is the Analogman with the mid range booster. Been using that one for years.
@@gilmourishofficial wow I didn't know about that particular one. I know there's some good mods, and I was just thinking about doing the Monte allums mod, but now I need to look for that version or get the stuff to try it myself. That sounds amazing. Thanks for the info Bjorn!
do you have some tone prints of flashback ?
No but check out the ones available. Lots there that you can use.
Simeone fan please Writer me down the impostation of the pedal?
Thanks man, great playing. Gonna get this pedal. For the CE-2, could you (or someone) please tell me a cheap clone, or few, of the overly expensive Boss CE-2 Chorus? I know theres a few CH-1 clones, but looking for the warmer nature of the CE-2 ...in a clone. Especially exact circuits, Any ideas?
The Mooer Ensemble King sounds great.
@@gilmourishofficial thanks ...do you know if its the same circuit as the CE-2? ..Or just in the ballpark?
You would have to check but tonewise it's very close.
@@gilmourishofficial thanks, ive also seen a video on the joyo analog chorus ...seems close too
I realized that any pedal can cover Gilmour tones, as long as it sounds nice. Because Gilmour does not A tone. He has a lot. Every time he plays, he plays different, with different setups, so... have fun with anything you got!
To play Pink Floyd - Sorrow what distortion pedal should I use?
Check out this feature on my site for more info
www.gilmourish.com/?p=7115
I got a proco rat recently, second hand, and I really like it. I might get one of these someday too, it gives just the right ammount of punch punch... (Sorry my english sucks)
Your english is good buddy, yo también tengo un rat y lo amo! No lo cambiaría por nada..
@@davidcamargo7143 gracias :D Ahi sigue, feliz en mi pedalera 😂
How did you add the delay and chorus ?
Had a Boss CE-2 and TC Flashback placed after the SD-1.
Thank you for always great advice:)
I love the sound produced by "DAVID GILMOR"
I am not a Guitarist.But I would want to be able to play a representative song of "DAVID GILMOUR".
Making sound is your video is essential.
You really appreciate.
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Great to see both Bjorn and Floyd canvas miu on the same place!
Love your channels!!
Thanks!
Thank you!!
Gilmourish should be a new entry in the English Dictionary.
Totally different sound. The trick here is just playing a Gilmour solo with any overdrive pedal will sound close enough to most people.
Which pedal do the TS9 or SD1 recommend?
I love them both. The TS9 has a bit more mids and compression, while the SD1 is slightly more open sounding with a tad more gain.
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