Anytone AT-D578 vs TYT MD-9600 | DMR Mobile Radio Comparison
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2020
- Comparing the new Anytone AT-D578 DMR Mobile Radio to the TYT MD-9600 Dual Band Mobile DMR Radio. Take a look and let me know what you think.
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Waiting to test, have a TYT handheld but I think you convinced me to buy the Anytone thanks. I enjoy your channel
Thanks
I use the speaker mic sometimes, if there is noise I can put the speaker mic near my ear, but I have it onn all the time. Most of the time I don't need it. I use my 578 pro for a base station most of the time. I love the radio! It is a learning experiences!
Lots of very good information. I currently own an MD-9600 on the base. Audio is excellent. It is a version 3 radio. I will be buying the Anytone and was on the fence between the non BT and pro. I plan on putting the TYT in the car and using the Anytone on the base. Also have an 868 HT and absolutely love that. Best HT I have ever owned. Will see if I spring for the extra 100 bucks for the pro.
I will definitely get the Bluetooth screen for the AT-D578 . I love both of my radios I also have the D878 Plus. Still learning both radios. KO4BQN
I jumped through some of the video so forgive me if I missed it, but the feature in the Anytone which I would want most is the cross band/cross mode repeat. Bluetooth would be sweet for the detachable head (it will be interesting to see how they implement power supply) and I would put the APRS and 220 in the nice-to-have category. Just my preferences, nothing more.
Thanks for the video!
Having a speaker in the microphone can be a real blessing in a high noise mobile environment. I have a Wouxon kg-920p in my van that has a speaker in the mic and it really helps. I have an overhead console that I hook the mic to and the radio sits on the dash. I wouldn't be able to hear the radio with just the built in speaker, but I can hear the speaker mic. Being able to adjust the volume on the speaker mic is a nice feature to look for. One complaint I have about the setup is that the speaker in the mic is not disabled on transmit and being a true dual band dual receive radio, it can still receive while transmitting if the other VFO is on the other band which is obviously a problem. I usually keep it set on one frequency only, so it doesn't affect me. Just a few things to look for when doing your reviews.
The built-in speaker is usually not something to rely on. Connecting an external speaker should solve most of the issues you are describing. If you enjoy the speak-mic on the mobile radio, that is fine. But I use external speakers, so there is no need for me, even if I am driving with the windows down and it is noisy.
Hey Jason, Great video! I realize I'm 3 months late for a comment but I don't see any other comment about it. I rarely use the feature but one that you did not mention about the AnyTone D578. It has two PTT buttons on the microphone. The button for the Sub band is on the front of the microphone. It is convenient so you don't have to switch bands to on the display in order to transmit.
Thanks for the info!
I waited since 2016 to buy a DMR mobile since I heard of the rummored AT-D5888UV. Later found out it was actually going to be called AT-D578UV. I then found out about the bluetooth and bluetooth remote mic and decided that would be just fine as an alternative to having the remote mount removable head everyone wants. I currently use my AT-D578UV as a base station so at this point a removable head isn't needed and doing firmware upgrades and updating digital contacts is convenient as I don't have a laptop. There are so many more benefits to the AT-D578UV then any other DMR mobile on the market so I look foward to seeing what competitors come up with next.
Thanks for commenting.
First up, thanks for the great series of video's Jason... I really didn't think that the 9600 rated whatsoever, i got rid of mine after it drove me insane with its constant click in the speaker when you received a signal in digital, the volume control and a few other problems i found that i didnt like. Where on the other hand, I am absolutely wrapped in the technology behind the Anytone AT-D578UV pro. Its completely programmable, i've had the anytone now for about a week and cant put it down, you can virtually change any parameter in the radio to suit your environment and possibly more that i haven't discovered as yet... i used to swear by Icom but now !!
The speaker-pop issue on the MD-9600 was only on the first run of radios. They fixed that and several issues with the 2nd batch, and those haven't been an issue since - maybe 2 years ago.
I do agree that the Anytone is the better radio between these 2. However, I still use my MD-9600 and I like it - it works just fine for what it is.
Yes your right it was a couple of years ago, its great that they fixed the problem with the 9600, I might grab one and try it again, with its bigger screen it may be a good option for the car whilst I keep the 578 for the bench until they bring out the larger screen option you mention....
When on crossband repeat, does the AT-D578 pass through dmr ID and Talkgroups?
I have the 578 and a 878UV Plus! Love them both! I am a new ham and started with 2 radios that for a new ham can be a little hard to program and learn but I love a challenge! I took and passed 2 tests in one night! I would like to know if anyone has gotten them to work with the Raspberry Pi to do digital modes like Winlink, or other modes.
thanks Jaison from kb2uew nice review good job Jay 73
The screen size on the AnyTone is smaller, but much more readable. A big screen doesn't help if the resolution or contrast are poor like on the TYT. If the text has to scroll, it's not a good implementation.
He’s describing it as black text on a blue background. The blue part is just the backlight (which could be any color; think Baofeng). That’s a standard LCD, similar to your Casio watch. I actually seek out those types of displays (instead of the color matrix LCDs) b/c of their readability in sunlight. The contrast is MUCH higher w/ standard LCDs... The situation w/ the TYT display may be the pixel size or simply that they just wanted a larger font for car readability. The AnyTone has much finer text. But at 3ft away, you might struggle to read that. So they’re anticipating different use cases. The AnyTone display looks like something you’d find on an HT (that you hold 12” from your face). The TYT looks like what you’d roughly want in a car. But I agree that it should be user-selectable, depending on your ability to resolve finer text... Personally, I’d go w/ the bigger buttons and display for car use.
I have the TYT and one thing I find frustrating is changing zones when there is anything being received. Even the slightest analog static from a distant repeater will stall my ability to change zones as the radio defaults out of the menu. I have to change channels to a silent frequency to make the zone change. I don’t think the Anytone has that issue.
Great comparison between the TYT and Any Tone. Any Tone appears to have all the bells and whistles plus the Bluetooth remote head will definitely give it an edge. Hope the 5-watt power in the 220 meters is scaled up to 10-watt through its firmware soon.
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Pretty Good Job when you got passed the TYT maximum contacts issue.
I have both of these radios. They are both great radios. The quality on the 578 is excellent. I use the DMR at work and they perform great on commercial. KS4QF
Agreed. I still like my MD-9600 but I like the Anytone better.
I have 9600 and i love this radio :) it is basic interface,ı guess one problem is it is overheated above the sun.
I like it.It reminds me of an episode of stargazer .But you didnt jump on top of the radios.
Some mention about receiver sensitivity and signal rejection would have been nice. These are Chinese radios after all.
On the anytone, the two speaker ports on the back are different. I believe the top port if you plug a speaker in it. Audio will come out of the radio speaker and the external speaker.if you plug the speaker into the bottom Port you only get audio from the external speaker and its silences the internal speaker.
Yes, they are different.
Super video! I applauded for $5.00 👏👏
Thanks for a great video! I'm considering purchasing a used TYT MD-9600 and was wondering how to tell what version it is. Looking for Version 3. Anyone know how to tell?
Look in the Radio Versions menu for hardware version. It should be 2.01 or higher.
I did a video about this a while back - czcams.com/video/159P1NI_EvQ/video.html
👍👍👍 Thanks ! ...Alan in 🇨🇱
Which has better analog performance, I.E. intermod rejection?
That 578 regular model is still at r&l I think it would make me a great base
Ok I have a general DMR question. Can you receive commercial band frequencies? Our Power Company, School Corp., Street Dept and Co Highway have gone to DMR and my scanner doesn't pick that up and can't afford the scanner that does. I've been looking into DMR. I just got into YSF and love it.
On most of them, yes. Depends on what commercial band they're using though.
@@HamRadio2 Ok thank you.
I finally gave up on the 9600, had issues like closing the truck door and the frequency would change. Had some issues with the receive. The latest firmware has issues that never got corrected, so you need to stay with the older firmware. As mentioned it's limited to 100,000 contacts. Currently I have been trying to get support from TYT sending 3 emails with no response. There is basically no place to take the radio for repair in the US. I have purchased the 578 and will never look back. As far as the screen size go on the 578, I simply display only the information I need which in turn let's the font get larger.
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I run the latest firmware on my MD-9600 and have no issues. It sounds like you got a bad unit. Whoever you bought it from should have fixed that for you.
@@HamRadio2
I bought the radio from MTC, they will not support it since they stopped selling them. There is is really no where to turn for the repairs and MTC had no suggestions other then send it back to China which I'm trying to get that ball rolling with no success after 1 month of trying to get a response from TYT via email. By the way great channel, keep up the good work!
@@HamRadio2 Actually I stand corrected, the latest firmware is fine for the 9600, its my MD 2017 that the latest firmware does not work.
BT wireless mike and control head. Takes the rig from the Flinstones to the Jetsons.
with OPENGD77 the MD-9600 gets a new value, perfect software, made from hams
The 220 power can possibly be increased in the future via firmware? I would think that it would be a hardware limitation.
They've done it before with firmware, on other models. Originally this radio was said to be 25 watts on 220, then they changed it to 10. Even now I think it technically should be 10, but all of the vendors have it listed at 5 because that is the current limit.
Nice comparison, I just got md-9600 through radioddity. The software is pretty dated it's incompatible with windows 10 - unless you run it in compatibility mode- windows reports its windows 8 compatible.
How's the d578 with the analog channels, I find the md9600 pretty wonkie on analog a lot of squelch weirdness, you have to run it in monitor mode silent to break squelch on anolog channels. . The scan list is sort of weird too.
One nice thing is there are some extra settings if you hit ctrl t in the software with the radio connected
I've not had any issues with my MD-9600 CPS and Windows 10.
I've also not tried any analog repeaters yet with the D578, but I will be doing some more videos and testing with it soon
The thing the Anytone has going for it for me is I have the 878 HT. Little or no learning curve. If it had a remote head, I'd be all over it. So I'll stick with my CS800D in the mobile.
They'll soon be releasing a Bluetooth Head to go with this radio, which will serve the same purpose, but won't need a wire running through the car to your radio.
guessing you'll be all over it ......7 3
@@HamRadio2 Still waiting!
The TYT MD-9600 (or the Retevis RT-90 equivalent) has two receivers in it, whereas the Anytone only has one receiver. If you are wanting to monitor two different channels, you can do so simultaneously with the TYT, or the Retevis RT-90 equivalent. I use this function to monitor law enforcement/Fire-EMS (Analog) on one channel simultaneous with either other Law Enforcement/Fire-EMS, or ham frequencies simplex, repaters, etc...so I can hear both at the same time. That's a huge feature for me, otherwise, I would choose the Anytone, as the TYT and Retevis are less feature rich in other areas.
How do you import the channel info from an anytone ht to the tyt?
N0GSG Contact Manager
There is potential for AnyTone to bring out an Android app to control the 578, which would be interesting.
Yeah that would be pretty slick
NEXT TIME TURN IT ON SO WE CAN HEAR THE AUDIO QUALITY THROU THE RECIEVE SPEAKER AND THE AUDIO QUALITY OF THE MICS OUTPUT.
I may do that with these 2 and a couple of others.
Which vhf/uhf radio has the most power? Looks like most of them max out at about 50vhf/40uhf watts.
Yes, most of them max out around that number
I'd argue that 50w/40w should be enough for anyone, mobile. One of the primary principles of ham radio is to only use the amount of power you need to establish communications. The goal isn't to achieve the strongest clearest signal at all times, in all communications with all recipients. Power isn't going to compensate for someone, or a repeater, that is shadowed by geography, or buried in trees or behind buildings. Power won't compensate for a poor antenna setup. Lots of good options to improve performance without needing more power.
9600 was an early dmr rig the anytone 578 pro is so far in advance of it in its design and use
I have the anytone
Is the D578 FULL Duplex in ANY mode ? Analog or digital ?
No it isn't
I just got the Anytone 578. I can't get my 878UVPlus code plug to load in my 578. But just making a new code plug. The only thing I would like to see in them is about to do Packet, and or other digital data in and out of them. I think someone may find a way. To start need a plug to go to the radio with cord to a box with a Jack for the mic to plug in. With the speaker mic you have audio in, and out and PTT now in that box. Just need to work out how to wire in the Packet. There must be someone that can work that out. Need to match audio levels. I need to find where I put my TNC!
Watch this episode - czcams.com/video/zcIgWgpOIec/video.html
I wonder if you could use the bluetooth interface for audio I/O to a computer?
@@rkaag99 I may try that sometime. What may be better is use my cell phone and/or tablet. At this time I am working on getting ready for the What looks like a busy Hurricane Season. Living in South Florida I want to make sure I can get on "Florida SARNET" That will let me talk to all the state of Florida and most important hear WX4NHC! There is also a local repeater that works with the local EOC! Also need to make sure I have enough battery to run things when the power goes out!!! IT WILL!
Do both models support mutiple DMR ID's?
The MD9600 didn't used to but it's possible they've updated it. I'll have to check
Which one are you presenting, the radio or yourself? Oh2eki Finland
Watching the video should make it clear.
Newb question but can I use this with walkie talkies?
Yes
Hi! Is tyt md9600 crossband repeter capable
No, don't think so
Well, eventually the hardware wont support the addition of more contacts by updating the firmware....and how will you know when your hardware has reached its limit?.. will the manufacturer just say "hey, thats it, the hardware mem is full"
Yes, eventually. But if an HT can hold 200k then a mobile radio should be able to do so. If it depends on the physical size of the memory chip on the motherboard, then the mobile radios have larger motherboards than HTs do. So I don't really see any reason for it not to be upgraded far past where it is now.
In Australia, the Anytone is more than twice the price of the TYT
The Anytone is also newer. When the MD9600 was released, it sold for a higher price here. They have dropped the price a few times since then, but the Anytone remains at its original introductory price in the USA, even after having been out for a year
@@HamRadio2 Yeh true.. I'm also told by a local supplier the price will also go up by $100 shortly.
The TYT has a larger display 😃
Obviously lol
Both fail with no remote head. TYT is older so they have a little excuse but the AT should've had that day1
The TYT screen is bigger but that screen looks like something from the 80's that would have problems in cold weather.
The AnyTone screen isn't big enough IMO
Really wish someone would come out with a DMR mobile with remote head and decent size screen along with the dual/tri band
Well the MD-9600 came out about the same time as the CS-800D so I don't think they really do have an excuse. A remove head on that radio would have cornered the market
But I am also encouraged by the idea of Anytone having the remote BT head.
Taking daughter to dance in a few mins. Would this radio be good for packet also?
Depends on what you are trying to do with Packet.
@@HamRadio2 mainly winlink. Maybe qso if anyone around me is going to do that or get back into it. Also BBS logins.
@@stevenbrannen1568 You can do packet with ANALOG radios... No need for digital ones... Any older analog radio will do if it has some kind of external comport...
@@ikokovidis56 i was just thinking this can do duel role for me. Packet & dmr at home.
Can the MD-9600 be programmed for Ham and GMRS?
The older versions could. I don't know about the new ones, they might have locked it down
@@HamRadio2 How do I figure out which version I have. I've reached out to several people, including John Mikor. My radio guy is telling me to just buy a new one, which seems unpractical at the moment since my budget for the year is already set.
@@maninblue542 Go into Radio Settings and see what hardware version you have. I think anything after 2.01 is their finished and production version.
@@HamRadio2 It says I have Version 01.22
Jason- it seems you NEVER show the most important aspects of a transceiver. That being, does it receive well and is it susceptible to intermod or engine noise.
You reviews are always about nearly useless features but the only performance you show is power out.
*What good is a radio that does everything if I put it in my car and hear noise on everyone's signal?*
NEVER is a strong word. It seems you've missed these videos..
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Instead of making false an inaccurate claims, perhaps you could simply ask me what video you would like to see next. I am always open to suggestions from viewers.
Have a conversation using the two radio's, Don't tell the person you talk to which radio you are using . Mixed audio reports here regarding the anytone..
I have both radios, definitely the Anytone AT-D578 is the better radio and is far superior in features and it can even do Full Duplex and Dual Receive in different bands. But the MD-9600 has the better receiver, it has a Superheterodyne receiver, the Anytone im pretty sure is Direct Conversion. Its like the MD-380 vs the MD-UV380, the UV380 is dual band and has more features, but the MD-380 has the better receiver by far!
Agreed
Well said mate . The md 9600is very sensitive so is the md380 single bander. As you said the receiver on the dual band handheld uv380 is crap.
@@RadiosPlanesSpace yes, I also have both of those! LOL
You are wrong. I've sent email to BridgeComSystems and asked about receiver type, and they told me 578 uses Superheterodyne receiver. So even although CPS is similar to 878 they are not same.
878 - Direct conversion
578 - Superheterodyne
End of story.
@@dimicar1 I said I was pretty sure it was Direct Conversion, not 100% ,if its Superheterodyne its a good thing(depending who you ask). And I said the 9600 has a better receiver which is my experience, if you have both radios too and you had a different experience, well... not in my case. Just a comparison. After using the 9600 for a long time, and now replacing it for the Anytone in its place (the 9600 is in another location now). I find the receiver a lot more sensitive on the 9600. My experience. Probably you should share yours with both radios...
TYT MD-9600 have 3,000 Channels
Yes
Md9600 has 100,000 contacts
Yes that is all of the info I could find on it
I notice you are a ham, 73. But do you deal with CB radios. If so. Witch one. Thanks
Yes I have a few. Cobra 29 is probably the most popular
Receiving in analog, sensityvity, selectivity - nothing said about
Both failed to offer remote head...That's it...THE MOST COMMON FEATURE ON THE OLDER ANALOG AND SOME DIGITAL RADIOS ,now with those DMR mobile radios is THE issue to talk about !!! Personally I don't care about how many THOUSAND CONTACS they can have in... I disagree with the registration system in DMR in general...DStar system was much better for example..So we have two mobiles to compare...In my opinion TYT has better receiver than the Anytone out of the box...Had checked it many many times...Anytone has 3 bands to offer (in US...NOT for the rest of the world...) Only two for the TYT...May be for the colleagues in USA this is important but for us in Europe......Anyway. You get what you are paying for...Just see the price difference ... TYT costs ,almost HALF the Anytone's price !!!The displays....So what...TYT has bigger display on...Anytone has a coloured one...THE POINT is,HOW THEY MANAGE THE DATA TO SHOW ON THEM !!!The programmers could find a way to give you the flexibility to choose alternative lettering (bigger or smaller letters) so you could adapt the displays according to your needs...There are ways to do it...The Anytone's colored display...You can see the name and callsign in it but is useless...The letters are so little ,you have to stop the car to see who is calling !!! There is so much information on a very little screen so it becomes useless...For example...I would prefere, to have ONLY the caller's name and callsign instead of of the channel,the frequency (maybe..) and those useless informations on the upper side of the screen...Anyway I KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING AND LISTENING TO !..I've programmed it !!ONLY the Repeater's callsign or the location ,or the network would be sufficient..And this ONLY at idling channel...I could write many more but I think these are the most important issues with these two radios...73 de SV2LLJ Ioannis
You have to register to use DSTAR, FYI. I did.
Most people care alot about what contacts it holds. That is a very common question I get. I do also agree with the remote head comments you made, but at the same time, the Anytone will soon have a BT head.
Also the price difference is very little in the USA, if you compare like-kind models, such as both radios that don't have APRS or BT. They have an Anytone version that has neither and it is priced like the MD-9600, so I don't think looking at price-point is valid for this comparison.
@@HamRadio2 Good morning Jason !! Well, of course!! As a newer model, Anytone, offers much more than TYT.. It's some years among them... They HAD to bring up a better radio... So you see, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE EXACTLY!!! I do know my friend, for the registrations and their systems... It just happened to be around digital radios from the very beginning of them... Personally, I have been in many commities and clubs about them from Dstar era here in Greece and much more before this... Anyway... I was aware of the control, it was to come with Anytone and still waiting for it..For the price... I Do believe that Both are overpriced.. It depends on the customs to decide for the final price in All countries though!!! 😂 😂 I believe that Anytone will come back with a better model, in the near feature... Also TYT.... Just remember the differences on Icom models 2820 and 5100 for example... But ICOM there in US, has Ray Novak AND THEY LISTEN TO HIM!!! It was their good fortune to have him and for us to have better and better radios..At least for Dstar... Even today the newer models reflect his spirit... I strongly believe that, also TYT and Anytone, have people like Ray there but as I see it, they try to "cut corners" in terms of the production costs.. We are here to see, how they are programming our mobiles and h/ts of the future...Last but not least, keep an eye on the others!!! (Motorola, Hytera, also CS etc..) I think they will be in our near feature also!! 73 de SV2LLJ
P. S I do own both of them... Mobiles And h/ts... And some Motorola and Hytera... Not to mention the older digital ones... It's another... topic!!! Have a good day Jason..
Lmao I can’t get my anytone to get off dmr and just use as a dual bander
And i drive toyota prius and i stick with analog radio.
Stuck between a mobile and a ht smh
Anytone AT-D578 mega shit. NO PTT! You dont can use any other Microphone and no support from Anytone! You can only use the OriginalMic. Bluetooth will disconnected at any time. Works not stable! The feeling of pots are bad.I have still 7x MD-9600, RT90 Version 3. The units works much better. No VFO, no Bluetooth, but the units work fine! And with somer other microphones. The customer need to know, that he can only User the original Microphone. Pull the Mic down and broken, you cannot use the Anytone anymore. Anytone has thousend nice functions, but nothing works good. My choice is the TYT. Cheeper and works.