dbx Noise Reduction on Tapes Records

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • Let's take dbx for a test drive on an LP and a reel to reel tape recording.

Komentáře • 82

  • @stephensams709
    @stephensams709 Před 4 lety +8

    I'm a big fan of DBX to this day. I have a DBX 224 that I use with my Akai GX-635D reel to reel and also have several DBX albums, all of which I bought in 1981 while stationed in Okinawa. At the time the Yen rate was 200 to the dollar, so everything was pretty much half price. Just my two cents, but it's nice to see a video about DBX. Thanks for posting!

    • @fraserkatz2081
      @fraserkatz2081 Před 2 lety

      Ditto on dbx

    • @holyvanguard
      @holyvanguard Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you for your suggestion I'm getting a 224 to use with my gx 77

  • @jonnynevada8915
    @jonnynevada8915 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The DBX playback does introduce some slight compression ,, but having said that,, it’s still much better than listening to Tape hiss 🤷‍♂️

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix Před 7 lety +3

    that bass is incredible on reels

  • @HammyTechnoid
    @HammyTechnoid Před 8 lety +1

    There was a procedure I followed to calibrate my cassette decks for maximum headroom. I would play a 400hz tone and set it to 0db without dbx, then with dbx engaged, the same tone would record at -5db. With the knobs on the back, the outputs were matched and balanced so switching dbx in and out produced NO jump in volume. This also allowed the tape to stay under distortion levels. A good tape with -55db noise would produce 110+ db dynamic range, plenty good to copy CDs. Dbx tapes lack compatibility, but if your's is the system you're playing them on, dbx was the way to go for removal of tape hiss.

  • @douglas787
    @douglas787 Před 8 lety +11

    I had dbx on my Teac x2000. It made incredibly clean copys of cds that were so good you couldn't tell the difference between the original and a copy.

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 8 lety

      +douglas787 - Awesome! I made some Christmas music mix tapes this season in dbx from digital sources and they too sounded like the real thing but added a nice warmth to the sound.

    • @Badassvidsz
      @Badassvidsz Před 5 lety

      @@databits The tapes added this nice warmth like you said to the sound because they are tapes - analog tapes that's why

    • @BigDogCountry
      @BigDogCountry Před 5 lety

      or from a regular LP

  • @wildbilltexas
    @wildbilltexas Před 9 lety +4

    Nice demo. I had a Technics cassette deck with a built-in DBX encoder from the mid 80's to early 90's. I remember DBX worked well, especially dubbing from a CD onto high bias tape. But because it was incompatible with Dolby B (which my car's tape deck had) and recordings sounded too bright and compressed played back on a non-DBX deck I never used it much.

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 9 lety

      ***** Yeah dbx was useless on the go without dbx in the car.

    • @wildbilltexas
      @wildbilltexas Před 9 lety +1

      databits Right, I dont remember seeing any car decks with DBX, if they existed they would have been expensive. Dolby B didn't add much to the tape's sound besides giving it a high end boost. When I recorded on cheaper normal bias tape (like TDK D's or Maxell UR) I recorded with Dolby B but took it off when playing it back.

  • @eduardomalapit5825
    @eduardomalapit5825 Před 3 měsíci

    i love the sound of your system

  • @michaelshultz2540
    @michaelshultz2540 Před 5 lety +1

    I did note that on the lp that dbx would help eliminate subsonic rumble and feedback inheritent with vinyl.

  • @xWindreaderx
    @xWindreaderx Před 7 lety +7

    I would love to someday see someone use DBX on an 8-track recording

    • @JamesT65
      @JamesT65 Před 7 lety +3

      I am waiting for my 8 track unit and I will post exactly this. will organise it within the next week.

    • @cooliofoolio
      @cooliofoolio Před 6 lety +5

      James Tervit
      It's been a year, I also really want to see this. I can only find demos from dbx on tape and vinyl and it would be really cool to see it on something else, and 8 track is low fidelity too so it would also really be good for testing.

    • @marcviej.5635
      @marcviej.5635 Před rokem

      @@cooliofoolio 6 years and we're still waiting 😂

    • @cooliofoolio
      @cooliofoolio Před rokem

      @@marcviej.5635 I have a DBX encoder of my own now, now all I need to do is see if my 8-track recorder works

    • @marcviej.5635
      @marcviej.5635 Před rokem

      @@cooliofoolio I've got a dbx encoder too now and working 8 tracks, I'll try it when i got time, i tried it on my cassette deck and its horrible but on my reel to reel its perfect, although its made for reel to reels, my encoder is a tascam dx 2d

  • @Waltzkon
    @Waltzkon Před 9 lety +3

    Always been interested in hearing one of those DBx discs. I hear they sound really good, though of course there are some people who can't stand the artifacts. Though even if I bought one of the decoders, I certainly don't have the money to through at the DBX records right now. Only other experience I have with DBX is on this 4 track cassette recorder I own. When you can find a tape that plays nice with it it's very nice. Noise level sits just a hair above my sound card at about -75 dB, very good for a simple cassette.
    Also, I noticed that we may share the same set of speakers (or at least very similar speakers), and I'm curious to hear an outside opinion on them. Model number on mine is SS-MB215.

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 9 lety

      VicVac Mine are Sony floor standing speakers that are huge. They have incredible bass, most people think I have a sub-woofer hidden somewhere in the room. I don't recall the model number but I can check.

    • @Waltzkon
      @Waltzkon Před 9 lety

      databits Oh, if they're full size floor standers they aren't the same speakers, but at least share the same tweeter and general design. Not sure what size you'd call them, they're not bookshelf speakers but aren't really full size floor standers, I've always just called them 80s/90s box speakers.

  • @gabrielgarza3707
    @gabrielgarza3707 Před 6 lety +3

    My Technics M234X cassette has built in DBX

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 6 lety

      I had one of those too, the sound output was less than exciting. Hope yours is better.

    • @gabrielgarza3707
      @gabrielgarza3707 Před 6 lety

      databits can you do a how to video to how to replace the belt on the technics M234X

  • @kylehazachode
    @kylehazachode Před 9 lety +3

    vinyl with a digital footprint? that's so cool

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 9 lety +1

      George Moore Yeah, and funky to say the least, right?

  • @benrr101
    @benrr101 Před 9 lety +6

    Cool technology, but video could definitely have been improved if you edited in the audio from an external source instead of your camera's audio. It's really hard to tell the difference between the two.

  • @stvlu7333
    @stvlu7333 Před 8 lety +1

    I have a CX noise reduction and expansion decoder for LP's. They are very rare. I have 1 LP Pink Floyd The Wall in CX format. This is much like the DBX format. It also works great on some tapes without NR too like a DNR decoder.

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 8 lety +2

      Wow, i can only imagine the rarity of that Pink Floyd disc. The decoders are also quite rare!

    • @stvlu7333
      @stvlu7333 Před 8 lety

      I just picked up CX LP Santana Shango in n LP lot today.The encoder is not s aggressive as a DBX. It does not pulse like the DBX encoder. It does a good job removing the hiss from tapes with no change at all on the high end unlike you DNR encoder. I don't know why it wasn't adopted by more companies. The music still sounded great without the decoder unlike DBX which didn't. I still want to find a DNR encoder for those difficult tapes to de-hiss.
      I also have a HiComp encode/decoder system. It works alot like Dolby S and can be reproduced on a Dolby B system. the sound played back is like Dolby S quality.

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 8 lety

      +stvlu733 - Look on ebay for a "Archer Video Sound Processor w/ Surround Sound Model 15-1279A" it has DNR built in. Of course, it's decode only.

    • @stvlu7333
      @stvlu7333 Před 8 lety

      +databits I have already had that model in my search as well as others. I could also build one instead. There are easy diagrams on the net, board layouts and the chips on being sold on eBay.

    • @maxmustardman298
      @maxmustardman298 Před 6 lety

      someone needs to do a review of the Blizzard of Ozz CX version from CBS, wonder what that sounds like

  • @vicu2sk811
    @vicu2sk811 Před rokem

    Super tare nu stiam ca exista asa ceva separat.

  • @moneydoctor
    @moneydoctor Před 3 lety

    Perfect. That’s why I have a model 128 in my setup.

  • @databits
    @databits  Před 9 lety +3

    dbx Noise Reduction on Tape and Vinyl

    • @zackamania6534
      @zackamania6534 Před 8 lety

      I have a Nautlius Allman Brothers Live at the Fillmore HSM audiophile vinyl LP, and it is supposedly a dbx encoded record. It sounds fine on my turntable and stereo. Do you think I should get one of there nx 40s just for that one record? Or are modern stereo receivers better able to handle the noise? The LP was released in 1981-2. Thanks...ZP

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 8 lety +2

      If you really prize that record, you will hear more from the dbx decoder than a lack of noise! Much of the bass and depth have been compressed in the recording. The decoder will bring it back (or enhance it). Yes, I think it's worth it!
      Brad T
      - sent via mobile

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 8 lety

      I would get this one.
      Brad T
      - sent via mobile

    • @zackamania6534
      @zackamania6534 Před 8 lety

      databits ok thanks. I night try that out. Id like to be able to try one out. Maybe someone with a return policy will sell me one. The LP sounds really good on its own with the EQ settings that my current receiver has, and it's on the super quiet virgin vinyl HSM label, Nautilus, from the late 70s and early 80s. So it would have to be a marked difference for me to buy one, but ill check around. Thanks for the information...ZP

    • @Herongsx
      @Herongsx Před 7 lety

      hi, i have a question, the dbx 224x can do better the sound at moment to pass video from VHS (analog) to digital ?
      i hope you can help me

  • @aaronganga6630
    @aaronganga6630 Před rokem

    Now I Know What It Is For Thanks
    A Friend wanted To Trow The Deck He Dosent Know Anything About Audio

  • @michaelshultz2540
    @michaelshultz2540 Před 5 lety

    I have a dbx encoder decoder and used it . But the artifacts that you speek of are like someone is turning the volume and bass up and down. My akai x crossfield makes great recordings without dbx and with maxell udxl tape at 7 1/2 ips the sound quality is awsum and if you record a cd you cant tell the difference.

  • @muhammadshahidkhan1495

    ba3884 can be used for HD audio output, noise reduction is something other topic

  • @CharlieRAnimaMX
    @CharlieRAnimaMX Před 4 lety

    Dbx definitely sounds better. But It is quite surprising how similar both dbx and Dolby systems do; Boost the bass and some mids and highs around 2 or 3khz.
    It would have been awkward to hear the difference captured directly from the source instead of the microphone audio. (it is not very difficult to do), if the difference is incredibly abysmal even with a mono microphone, with the pure stereo source wave, it must be incredible

  • @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88
    @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice.

  • @nicholassheffo5723
    @nicholassheffo5723 Před rokem

    I was just at a store today that had a few DBX LPs and they only wanted $5.00 to $7.00, which is impressive, esp. since some of the titles were from name artists. Hit those used stores!

  • @aaronganga6630
    @aaronganga6630 Před rokem

    i got the Technics RS T80 R Model With dbx Noise Reduction

  • @taliqhill7114
    @taliqhill7114 Před 3 lety

    late to this video but just got one of these at a thrift, could u go more into detail how to hook it up to my tape deck

  • @williamwilliam9993
    @williamwilliam9993 Před 2 lety

    DBX is now acquired by harman kardon of samsung

  • @eddierosa98
    @eddierosa98 Před 4 lety

    Could this work on an analog hybrid setup even if i dont have a Tape Machine?
    My setup currently on the mixbuss is:
    Neve MBP
    Warm Pultec EQs (which introduces more hiss)
    Wonder if this DBX will be the solution, if it can fit in of course.

    • @thenorthamericanphonograph1039
      @thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Před 3 lety

      Compared to a Pultec EQ the DBX cost much less, It might be worth a try, just to see if it works well with it. I have used a Pultec EQ they were standard in the late 1950's and 1960's in most studios, and certainly sound great, though yes, if not totally recapped have noise. When using tube equipment, it is best to have a huge, dedicated copper ground stake outside, and ground all the Chassis to the ground stake, and you will have little hum and noise, if you replace the filter caps, extreme, but makes all the difference, in fact sometimes has so low a noise floor, it beats solid state, in noise when properly filtered and grounded. My tube equipment I use, actually shows the tape hiss on commercial records, from the master tapes, that you don't hear on solid state gear.

  • @Herongsx
    @Herongsx Před 7 lety

    hi, i have a question, the dbx 224x can do better the sound at moment to pass video from VHS (analog) to digital ?
    i hope you can help me

    • @Spacekriek
      @Spacekriek Před 5 lety +1

      To my understanding the dbx system would only make the VHS soundtrack sound even worse. If it was originally recorded with dbx, yes, then it would really make a positive difference to the sound quality.

  • @sc0or
    @sc0or Před 2 lety

    DBX is awesome these days when you don't need to share recordings anymore, and can listen in a same room where you made it. People even try to find decks with dbx paying extra $200-500 at a time they can purchase an external dbx compander for $30 ) This is sad that DBX was killed by its marketing department. Otherwise it could be literally everywhere, slowing down a CD expansion.

  • @sergeymurzabayev1410
    @sergeymurzabayev1410 Před 5 lety

    can this box also encode when recoding? Can I attach it between my non-dbx cassette deck and a cd player and record with dbx? thanks

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 5 lety

      Yes you can! This encodes and decodes.

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm Před 3 měsíci

    Man im not sure it soundrd better without the noise

  • @chainedenintenloup
    @chainedenintenloup Před 9 lety

    Love that. Have you tryed to play dbx with dolby b or c just to see if it sounded better, would be fun to kow ? Great video also.

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 9 lety

      Nintenloup wolf Haven't tried that, sounds like a fun idea. Thanks!

    • @tartarughaninja4
      @tartarughaninja4 Před 9 lety

      databits i've been using dbx since the 80s (technics rs-m228x and b405) and recordings that are over 25 years old still sounds good. they indeed have lost a bit of the HF, but turning the treble on the amp doesn't add any noise, so they're good as in the time. it worked absolutely great on cheap type 1 tapes, and normal tdk-c90 and d90 are great. it's kinda wasted on type 2 tapes, since it sounds almost the same.
      and no - playing dbx encoded tapes with dolby b and c sounds bad. it just removes the HF including the dbx control track. playing a dbx encoded tape with both dolby and dbx sounds bad too. the dolby removes HF and dbx control track, so the sound dbx decodes is dynamically correct, but lacks HF and has a strong pumping effect.

  • @kravchuk007
    @kravchuk007 Před 5 lety

    Excellent

  • @MichaelArchambault
    @MichaelArchambault Před 8 lety

    Does anyone know the name of the classical piece played at 11:18?

    • @Synthematix
      @Synthematix Před 7 lety

      have a listen to "goddess of the woods" by patrick hawes

    • @MichaelArchambault
      @MichaelArchambault Před 7 lety

      @databits would you be able to share the info?

  • @burning4902
    @burning4902 Před 3 lety

    cool, and your dads band is cool!

  • @clyth41
    @clyth41 Před 7 lety

    Will this work on normal vinyl and tapes
    ..

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 7 lety +1

      No. The content must be "encoded".

  • @larrytgroce2219
    @larrytgroce2219 Před 9 lety

    Let me know if this will work: I transfer Vinyl to MP3. if I got a DVX and connected it between my turntable and my computer I cam make MP3 files with a lot less of the crackles and pops and scratches???

    • @databits
      @databits  Před 9 lety +2

      Larry TGroce No, that would not work. You would need computer software to clean up the Mp3 file.

    • @wii1245
      @wii1245 Před 9 lety +1

      You would need Audacity to "clean up" your mp3 files, in other words, get rid of the annoying pops and crackles.

  • @ib3ub11
    @ib3ub11 Před rokem

    😮

  • @BigDogCountry
    @BigDogCountry Před 5 lety

    How great it sounded. But today, my phone can do this.Time moves on.

  • @stephenmartin7227
    @stephenmartin7227 Před 7 lety

    For better sound Quality, I prefer better speakers, like original 70s and 80s klipsch, Bose, Bowers and Wilkins, Definitive, and bang and olufsens. That's just my preference.

  • @tony714keene
    @tony714keene Před 6 lety

    Digital is not cool because it's not sine wave. Sine wave is real sounds like peoples voices and instruments.

    • @Spacekriek
      @Spacekriek Před 5 lety +2

      It's clear you have absolutely no fundamental understanding of the advantages of digital audio.

    • @DjTonioRoffo
      @DjTonioRoffo Před 3 lety

      no. just, no.