IS MAGIC DEAD? - Version 4.5 balance changes & new action cards review | Genshin Impact TCG
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- čas přidán 11. 03. 2024
- Welcome to the Invokation Akademy Review Session, where I go over all the changes to GITCG from the latest update, and give you my first impressions to get you better prepared for the new metagame.
Well, Version 4.5 Final(l)y comes with the much anticipated Gilded Dreams nerf, which has been core to the Magic engine and been dominating deck builds for the last 2 versions. I'll go over this as well as the other balance changes and new action cards in the upcoming patch, so you can be best prepared for what to expect when Version 4.5 is live!
As usual, I'll be covering the 4 new character cards once I've been able to test them a bit and provide deck suggestions in a later video, so stay tuned!
This series assumes you've been keeping up with GITCG. If you're a newer player, I'd recommend you check out my TCG-101 series which is aimed at beginners. You can find the playlist at • TCG-101
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00:32 - Balance changes
05:35 - New Cards
11:58 - Outro
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Quick amendment for Fortress of Meropide - apparently if you play two, the second Meropide WON'T TRIGGER after the first, and keep it's 4 stacks! So playing two will let you pretty much guarantee that you will have the effect up each turn - but it still won't "stack" on itself. Pretty interesting! You probably still shouldn't play it in a deck that can't consistently trigger it in one round, but now running 2 isn't as bad
They made Jade Chamber lore compliant, since it gets destroyed.
lol!! and it's like a 'last resort' because you are low on cards too
Imagine playing this with ninguang card
Honestly, I'm just a bit dissapointed, since they could've eaisly changed Gilded to simply give you dice not when played, but when opponent takes reaction damage.
It'd still make Yayoi and lyresong good since they could reset the effect, but I'd incentivize reactions much better
Plus, unlike instructors, you could trigger it with summons and then collect the extra die with varanara or liben (it could be a bit annoying, yes, bit i think it could make for some cool plays)
Yep would definitely have preferred something different. After playing with the change though it feels a bit more impactful than on first read, but still limited to specific decks
I assume Day of Resistance also applies to each summon attack as well? So it makes your character much more likely to survive a summon spam onslaught at the end.
Yep! It should block summons just fine as they are still within the round, so it's definitely one way to ensure you get max value
this patch feels like it'll be fun, golden troupe & more counter tech exciting
No it's going to be PAIIINNN I feel like stuff will get even more skewed to matchup favorability, but we'll see...
Farewell old Gilded, thanks for the vid. Magic gonna take a bit of the hit with the Gilded nerf but looking forward to the new patch!
Definitely - I'm really hoping I'm wrong that the hit is going to be inconsequential, but we'll have to see
Thank you so much for these update videos! They are always so helpful for me.
You're welcome! Glad they are doing their job
thank you so much for video ❤
My pleasure! Thanks for watching
First of all I like that they're trying to nerf guilded, but as you said golden troupe might just buff it again. Second of all, why would they add that blast card, all characters with one usage summons are pretty much worthless now 😢
Yeah I know, I think this patch was quite a miss honestly. I didn't mind that they didn't nerf Gilded last patch, I think it was fair to see how the meta would develop for another version...
But the current set of changes and new cards feels a lot like a band-aid and not a well thought out solution to meta problems
I used Jade Chamber I got off Senyata last night while resting some stuff to make sure I got enough dice for a KO so I can definitely see it being used in some degree in Jeht decks on the combo turn. Worst case you play over it and best case not pops itself
Honestly Sunyata got a decent buff from those Jade/Library buffs heh
Wow I didn’t even know people made content about this! I liked playing it a bunch when it came out but I fell out of it after the first release so I wanted to see what was going on
Hehe yeah TCG isn't all that well advertised in general, but there are regular hoyo-sponsored tournaments with actual prizes, and a pretty small but dedicated community!
@@blepthecat Yeah thats cool! I was looking into playing it again but all the new cards and stuff threw me way off
Www ²q@@jamiekaslana5550
Can't wait for what you are preparing for the next video. 😊
Hehe look forward to it! Will be trying out decks with the new chars for sure
try this deck please, neuvi layla lyney, same decklist as your freeze hypermagic, it needs some adjustments but it's really fun.
Neuvi has worked well in the Jeht lists for sure, he can output damage quite well. This seems like it could have some trouble setting up early, but could be promising!
Yeah if 4.5 makes Magic decks even stronger than maybe I skip it and come back if its really be nerfed. Magic Decks are really boring to play and play against 😪
Yeah might be the case for me too, also surprised Jeht hasn't been nerfed
@@KobiSheero Jeht developed a bit later in the patch and I'd guess changes and balance have to be locked in much earlier than on actual patch day, so I can guess they didn't have enough time to respond to Jeht becoming super prevalent
I think they will overall stay about the same as before - which probably is not ideal, they probably needed to come down a little bit. Perfectly fair to take a break if you dislike how things are tbh. I do hope they address things better for 4.6
Yes. These past weeks are good though, less & less player are using that stupid Lyre-Gilded and/or Jeht support shuffling mechanic. Not only they're boring to play or play against, they're also boring to watch, like on some tourney or some youtuber content 😂.
They really need to step up their balance adjustment, not only on this newest dice engine.
@@KobiSheeroyeah jeht decks are annoying imo especially when you run out of dice to defend against their attack and when they triggered it twice
While this patch's card and adjustment doesn't quite hit the mark we want. I somewhat appreciate some new cards like Fortress of Meropide and Control Directional Blast.
Fortress of Meropide: My current main deck is Ganyu Freeze with Kokomi and Barbara using Veteran's Visage as dice generation engine. Fortress fits this deck bc I heal a lot.
* Might switch Neuvillette with Kokomi or Barbara to make the deck more offensive.
Control Directional Blast: It's more of my personal grudge bc I faced summon based decks and Finaly too often. So, having better card to deal with those deck than Send off is pretty nice for me.
Fortress has actually been quite a neat card to play with and against - I think it's quite nice!
The new arcane legend with stall decks is going to be my noghtmare
Haven't seen anyone play it yet but it defiitely has potential!
i played against a stall deck once (barbs ning and kokomi), we ended up getting to round 10 somehow😭
@@damselettefan only 10? Rookie numbers for stall!! Haha
so glad by xingqiu chongyun razor team isn't getting nerfed :3
Haha some people probably aren't too happy to hear that, but yeah it's sticking around at least for one more patch
Controlled directional is too specific of a counter. Maybe decks with rodeia can cope but any other summon decks, specially those based on ults, is dead if the opponent plays that card.
Honestly Oceanid gets hit the worst because if you every have 2 or 3 summons up you're so much more exposed to blast than if you only have 1 summon at a time. It is too specific and good though, I agree
I am a jade chamber and fav library believer I won't take this slander.
but yes seeing gilded nerf kind of upsetting since I personally use it for dice fixing (not big brained enough in tcg for anything fancy). At least I already got used to lyre song and Yayoi but now I'll be sad if she gets nerfed because she was handy lol
Well Jade and Library are both pretty playable now haha. I've been using them in some decks where I'd normally play a Bestest. I have to imagine we get a Yayoi change if the existing Gilded change doesn't do what they want
Idk what to say about the gilded change, because the only buff for rainbow deck is gilded😢 i remember when gilded is still unavailable, people always use 2 same element with 1 other element deck😔 With this change, rainbow deck is gonna be a little bit harder to use, time to back to the old boring 2 same elements deck ig
Well, one of the most competitive decks in it's time was rainbow before gilded - Fischl Oceanid Agent. Resonance definitely was preferable before, but right now it's too far in the other direction where most resonances are much worse than rainbow which feels wrong
Not sure if it’s video-worthy, but I’ve been seeing a lot of success with Mona/Manifestation/Charlotte! I haven’t lost once with it (yet)
I've been trying out manifestation charlotte myself. Mona is interesting as a 3rd, seems like a similar strategy to Signora which makes sense
@@blepthecatYeah, I use Mona for freeze + fast action, there may be a better character to occupy the third slot tbh but being able to freeze makes the game a lot cozier for me lol
Controlled directional blast is very powerful compared to Hu Tao's and Xiao's card that costs 4 dice. I feel like the cost should be higher
Yeah they tried to balance it with the play restriction, but it feels pretty easy to fulfill. Maybe they'll go up to 5 total cards if it becomes a problem, which I honestly think would still be balanced
I guess the dev decide to goes fully embrace magic dice
Yeah sometimes I think it's an intentional choice because it does make watching the games more exciting sometimes, as it pushes games towards more actions. Who knows though
I think Golden Troupe is bugged rn so it's broken in two ways lol, I notice I get the dice reduction on end phase sometimes even on my active character after using their talent the previous turn
And I find Fortress worse than Passing of Judgement. You can just avoid using event cards for one turn for Judgement, but Fortress triggers every turn if your opponent knows how to play the game, so rip emergency woven/food. Can't even play Strategize or Paimon without them burning if you need cards/dice. If your opponent lays it down round 1, you pretty much can't avoid burning dice and cards to use ANY event cards, which is really bad for pretty much any deck except OTK decks, who only need event cards on a specific turn and can bypass the 1 card ban easily
Hm maybe it was a discount from somewhere else? I haven't heard of Troupe being bugged from anywhere else
@@blepthecat I only had Golden Troupe on the character and nothing in my support zone except Mamere iirc... Maybe the talent was discounted from somewhere else previous turn without me noticing, but I had a stack of Golden Troupe even though it was my active character the next turn 🐒
Controlled Directional Blast feels like a much cheaper and more broken version of both Xiao and Hu Tao summon remover cards. I feel like it would be better to either have as a 3 dice cost as Xiao is 4 and Hu Tao is 2 (I’m sorry I’m bad with the names) or at least have it either like Hu Tao cost (2 fixed dice) or have it like old gilded (3 random dice). Making it just 1 dice sounds so broken
It's definitely really good. People aren't playing it yet because it's still early and are trying new decks, but I think summons are going to have a really hard time - especially if your deck relies on more than 1 at a time
@@blepthecat it will definitely slow down if not kill Nilou bloom decks and FiNaLy will take a hit but probably later into the patch it will show, mostly now with more people knowing about it
Well this patch seems to have missed the mark a bit, I feel like up until now they’ve been consistent with gently shifting the meta but one strategy that was all ready meta might have actually gotten buffed and a card that casually counters an entire deck type, kinda lame but we’ll have to see what the characters do
Yeah it's a shame - though I'll forgive one bad patch if they can correct for it next one. Balance can be tricky with how quickly decks are discovered - Jeht wasn't a thing until much later on.
Characters so far feel a bit lackluster honestly. But I'll be trying out some more combinations
Feels like the game is already very snowball-y (in a sense that you get a bigger advantage just upon the fact that you rolled higher in the very beginning), and, sadly, the new cards and balance changes don't do much to fix that. For instance, Gilded and Jeht working better when your rolls are already good. Or drawing Khvarena / Troupe / Chang / Seelie early into the game
Round 1 is definitely very important, and some matchups change a lot based on who goes first so definitely a good observation. I'm not sure how you fix something like that though easily...
I knew the moment that I saw directional blast that Finale would be dead in the water. However, I honestly think that card is too powerful for only a one die cost. It is much stronger than send off which costs two dice. I think Hoyoverse have made the mistake of thinking that because it has a special condition to trigger and the fact that it also negatively impacts your summons that means the card is balanced. However, as the one playing the card, you can easily avoid the negative impacts of your own summons being affected, especially if you aren't even running any summons. Additionally, the support zone is now so jampacked that, even if you are only running one summon, you are vulnerable to this card because you probably have three support cards. It also felt really unfair to Nilou, whose slower style was already suffering in the current meta. At least the new Arcane card will help her team survive until the end phase.
Also, I wish they would buff Tubby so that Tubby can draw location cards. Currently, location cards are really weak, because there's nothing that draws specifically location cards. I find it odd that Tubby has yet to receive a buff similar to Wagner and Timaeus. Everyone is just running the same companion decks and locations are being completely neglected because they don't synergise with anything else that's currently at the top of the game.
Yeah definitely agree with both these points. Tubby could use some love
Honestly, the nerf on Gilded Dream is very reasonable considering many types of deck are now using gilded dream and yeah i'm liking this balance but then i understand your feelings about the balance update
Edit: i wanna point out that Gilded dream is still good but its not powerful as its prime so yeah
It did something, but it mainly affected decks like Finaly or the Lynette Cube deck that would often use them to fix and draw a few cards, which ended up being a fair way to use it, even if it was Lyresonged later. Most of the combo decks are unaffected
LETS GO STALL. LETS GO STALL
Fortress honestly is kinda scary, so we might see stall pick up a bit!
Cards that I expected to be nerfed:
Jeht - less die? I think 2 for 5 and 3 for 6 stacks is a more fair amount considering how many discounts you get in a normal Jeht magic deck
Yayoi - no explanation needed I think, overpowered
Mamere - for a zero cost card, getting three extra cards (technically two since you do use one card) is crazy
Sunyata - even more broken than Mamere because it's instantaneous and gives a discount
FWOP - honestly it's losing relevance but is still broken
Boar Princess - super powerful in artifact decks
Can't think of anymore except maybe passing of judgement and the box
Honestly with the current patch it's hard to predict their changes since I'm not sure if it's necessarily targeted towards competitive play or the actual meta. We'll just have to see
@@blepthecat I have a deck recommendation for you. I play hyper Xiao with hyper magic cards (so Xiao, Raiden, Bennett with Jeht and her people, and Yayoi Timaeus Gilded combo) most people don't expect it and Fortress may be a good addition since bennet and xiao talents allows for a ton of healing per round and a ton of dps as well
@@user-kw3de1np1j Yep that definitely works - it's the same idea as Bennett/Raiden/Childe that I was testing earlier with Jeht. The Hyper decklist definitely would work well for it.
Chang doesn't work quite as well in the deck early though which is my only issue
Controlled directional blast card will against nilou deck 😂😂
Yeah it's pretty bad for Nilou - though you can kind of play around it by not dropping too many supports.
honestly im gonna miss finaly, hoping lyney will still be good without it :)
I think Lyney will still be strong, just need to be careful running him with other summons probably
Is da of resistance Kaenriah???
Haha I'm not that caught up on lore but it's Stormterror's Lair burning right? So I think it's something related...
@@blepthecatYes it's the one where Decarabian, the God of Storms, were killed by rebels in Old Mondstadt 2000+ years ago before the Cataclysm. I believe it is mentioned in Venti's quest story!
Wow I really don't feel good about this patch. Gilded is even more highrolly now, and golden troupe is buffing the magic archetype. On top of that, I'm not a fan of charlotte's kit design lol
I've been liking Charlotte's gameplay so far, but other points definitely
@@blepthecat I just don't like charlotte because she feels like the perfect teammate for yelan otk and is too similar to signora with her skill. Correct me if i'm wrong on the yelan otk thing tho
@@cyaniire6924 i think yelan still prefers signora, the revive is more important and you rarely use skill
They really dug a hole for themselves, nerf nanatsuki then all artifacts get nerfed. Lyre nerf is fine.... I mean tbh, who uses lyre without gilded....
Either of these might have been better. Will have to wait and see
No more Magic and Yeht, for the love of God. I don't want to see more Yelan OTK, I want variety in tournaments. I guess Freezeyaka might become meta now?
Honestly Jeht and Yelan OTK decks aren't that affected by the gilded change - so I think they will still be staples in tournaments. Meta probably won't shift very much
Schizo devs """nerfing""" magic decks (only dice fixing gets nerfed, not amount, wow) with one hand and then adding THE perfect artifact for it to be even more op with the other hand. What the actual fuck.
Certainly not interested in this patch's matches, since it'll be just magic all over the place.
I also really hate the fortress just because mechanics that make you literally unable to play are unfun af. At least freeze is hard to pull off and has counters. Make the card double the cost (or plus one for zero cost) or smth, not outright halt me from playing the game. Imagine something like "your next swap character action won't work" for Maiden or ElCube, like wtf.
Also also, poor summoners. It's really fun how there's three card to counter JUST summons, with one being literally useless, second being good and third being broken, all the while any other character's skill effects are never outright deleted (imagine something like "delete fatui reso or klee ult").
Hoping they change course in 4.6 for sure