Rough Rider Knives
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- čas přidán 17. 12. 2013
- These knives are junk!! AND this is coming from a guy that thought he found the next under appreciate knives like the Japanese knives were in the 80's. DO not WASTE your money, they are also NOT SAFE for child use.
I don't know about this demo, man. You're literally embedding the blade in the wood and twisting the handle hard, effectively prying the pivot pin loose! I'm certain that case knives are better built, but that's just extreme abuse of a knife!
I've been using Rough Riders now for ten years.
I am from the UK but I live in the States now.
Back in the UK, I had a reasonably large collection of Case knives, but I sold them (along with almost all of my stuff) when I emigrated.
I couldn't afford to replace them all when I got here, so I bought Rough Riders.
I have used my Rough Riders quite heavily, including the occasional thing that would be classed as abuse.
I have certainly done a lot of wood carving and whittling, easily surpassing what you did in these videos.
I have also dismantled a couple of them to modify them, and there is no difference in construction between Rough Riders and any other slipjoint.
The only manufacturing defect I have experienced was a broken backspring on a large stockman that was my main carry knife for around two years.
This is something that just occasionally happens, usually to Queen knives, but it can happen with any manufacturer.
SMKW replaced that knife at no cost because Rough Riders have a lifetime warranty.
I can only assume that you received a faulty knife - perhaps the pivot pin was incorrectly peened?
And you're right, that locking model is simply a poor design - this is well documented on the various forums.
James Beat I really enjoyed your comments here. Thank you for sharing your experiences
I agree, I have never had a problem.
I have a few rough riders and have no problem. Yes, they are cheap and not the overall quality of a case knife but they are still pleasing to the eye and for use on small tasks they are great. In all fairness with most small pocket knives if you start hacking away at a pine block they will develop blade play. I use a Spyderco (GOOD OL AMERICANA) UKPK for my EDC but I certainly wouldnt be hacking away at blocks of wood with it! That is what a fixed blade is for!
Rough Riders are nice to have if you are on a budget and if it breaks just get another but I havent had one break one me yet because I use them for what they are intended.
+lordgerard666 well its a knife test the video would last to long showing me cutting thread, apples and maybe cleaning under my nails. Pine is a very soft wood these knives failed under very little above average use. My time is important I much rather buy a knife, spend a little more and have something that will last a lifetime. For those of us that lose our knives, keys, socks and shoes rough rider knives are a good choice. I just don't misplace stuff, my EDC is 9 years old, My Oakley sunglasses 7 my watch 70 years old. I much rather have the best, know how to care for it and it to perform. "use them for what they are intended" well these are shit knives so I guess you are correct, other than cutting an apple, thread or just looking at thats what RR will fit the bill for.
Spyderco, Benchmade are some of the best blades on the market I have quite a few, but I have slip joints that keep right up with themGood old Americana! I don't hate on imports, but China really makes shit, Im a big fan of believe it or not Taiwan they make some dam good blades at very good prices
Doggorunning
You seem to be missing the point! You obviously seem to want your edc gentlemans knife to be able to cut down trees! I would like to see you put a case knife through its paces and see what you can do with it before it breaks and call it "shit".
I take my RR to work everyday, it cuts boxes, plastic, heavy strapping and shrink wrap etc. These are "everyday tasks" and it performs very well. It also cuts thread and can cut an apple too lol!
I have expensive knives too,but would prefer not to use them at work because guess what? shit happens and I could end up losing it. I would rather lose a £10 than a £50 knife. That doesnt mean I dont look after my stuff, I still have my Great Grandfathers knife and it will belong to my Son one day. And believe me when I say it is the most valuble knife I own, it is worth more than any spyderco or case. It has history sentimentality,you cant buy that.
Have you tried Sanrenmu? They are made in China and they are not shit, they are cheap too. The Sanrenmu 710 is an excellent choice. There are some good test vids here on youtube. You will like it, they break in the end but only after having the shit knocked out of them during testing.
So is there any chance of seeing you put one of your more expensive gentlemans slipjoint folders through a test as shown in your video here? I look forward to the outcome ;)
+lordgerard666 owe by no means am I disagreeing that cheaper knives do serve a purpose. I used to do the same thing, I worked at a loading dock when I was younger and everyone wanted to use my blade constantly. So I started EDC'in a cheaper knife, it worked fine but back then almost everything was US made, it was a $15 Schrade; great blade. Everyones situation is different but RR here cost about $14 and an old Camilius Electric knife, or an old Schrade both made in USA and strong as hell knives run $20. I have yet to ever break a Schrade or Camilius, I do see a place for the one dollar Chinese knives though these are truly disposable and at one dollar who cares but the RR are comparable in price to some really good old American knives. Paypal me $22 at ndi91108@yahoo.com I will send you out a nice Schrade full size, you won't be disappointed. Thanks for the great comments love talking knives
Doggorunning thanks for the offer but I would not be able to legally carry a full size shcrade here in the UK. I am although going to purchase a shcrade sodbuster in the future but the smaller slipjoint version. I do have some bigger locking knives but they are for either in the house or when I go into the woods. I hate the knife laws here in the UK as they are discriminatory to sensible law abiding people like me.
This is why I am drawn to traditional folders they are beautiful and serve a purpose. I carry my spyderco ukpk everywhere but I am very weary of getting it out in public as it is a bit tactical looking to those people who don't know the laws. So if I go out to the pub or something I carry one of my RRs because they are pretty. Its just a shame RRs are limited in the UK. My favourites are the barlow and canoe design.
What do you use for your edc? I love talking knives, my Lady doesn't get it :-)
+lordgerard666
When I was a kid, I had Case and Camilus knives. Each one was used to carve pounds of wood. None ever developed blade play. Small folders have been the standard whittling knife for hundreds of years. They should stand up to the use he showed with no problem.
I want to see you do this exact test to a case knife :) thanks!! :)
look for the video in the next week
Doggorunning superb.. thank you very much!! :)
I own a lot of pocket knives from many makers, all good. Vintage Queen / Winchester, GEC, vintage Bull dogs, case, Benchmade etc. I recently bought one Rough Rider 3 blade sowbelly just to check them out for myself. I'm sure the quality will vary from one pattern to another, but I found this one to be not only decent, but damned good. I'm actually shocked that a $17 knife (including shipping) could be as good as it is. The blades came sharp, the snap is as good as any knife I own, and lock up is strong. No blade wobble, it holds a decent edge and is easy to touch up. I would buy another one in a minute as a good user blade. Is it a $150 first gen Bulldog? No, it's not. But as a sub $20 knife, it's an amazing value and damned sure worth a look.
Agree; the fit and finish is as good if not better than some of those USA , german brands you mentioned. the brands number one promoter is the sale man that sell these high profit knives on Ebay and such. But the knives when put under stress.....or......I'm sure long term use will fail. Nothing better than a knife that you know will last a life time, like a Case for example. A knife that will take on character, a smoothness all its own. I've had a knife fail before on me, it was a GEC of all things; but the company honored the warranty. week and half later my knife returned better than new; but mine. Even as an emergency knife, thats the last place I would put a cheep knife, lol...never understood that logic.
I'm a collector and have cheap knifes and expensive knifes. This man is correct. If you take a cheap knife and try to do what it cannot, it will breakdown. Every collector has to make a decision: do you want it for show, or do you want it for work. And there is no "correct" answer. But if you want a knife for work, buy it on that basis. Spend the money for quality. Don't go cheap, because not only will the knife breakdown, serious injury can result. If you are collecting for interesting appearance, that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. But don't confuse the two.
No Chinese knives, better to have one quality knife at the cost of ten junk knives.
Thank you for your honest review. ...this really helped me a lot in NOT buying one. Thx buddy.
Cheers Mike
yea they sure look nice but they are built like well a Chinese product
I use Rough Riders to test knife patterns I may have an interest in, but don’t want to spend $50 until I’m sure I like the pattern and size. For this they’re great.
Also, as a guy who works in an office, they’re fine for easy tasks, maybe not cutting 2x4 wood, but fine for around the office with opening boxes, cutting rope, cutting food.
Like everything in life, products are engineered for a purpose and you should recognize this and us it appropriately. I just use the correct tool for the job. For tough tasks I use my Case or GEC knives.
Wow I have thought about ordering some rough rider knives from SMKW but I sure am glad that I didn't thanks for the demo.
I heard they have gotten better and I want to point out this is just one series of RR I tested? E mail me, what you looking for? Older knives are always better and increase in value. Chinese knives, never go up in value and in my option won't. USA, German, Japan, and a few other countries produce art, and art goes up in value. A knife collection is like another art collection. I have seen Taiwan doing very good work and I se one day these knives pulling premium prices. Many off brand knives made there are very under valued and one day will sell for 50% if not more the original sticker price. Coffee peace>
Haven't had this problem. The fit and finish seem to be much better in 2015, 2016.
Like your videos, especially the tortoise shell handle knife , thanks, good info!
I've got a few knifes now, i probs use two for the function and i admit they cost alot more than my 'good looking ones' and the rest i just love the look of :) Good video.
at least they have life time warranty. :-)
agree
You got me looking at the old fashioned type knives... still have not made a purchase yet tho after watching one of your vids an the lack of quality on the newer ones what would recommend for a case knife between say $25-$50 maybe some kind of skinner as I'm an amateur hunter thanks
-Dan
Go to my channel hit the "About Tab" click "send message"; I need a good mailing address please. If you want a good case knife look at a 1970-79 Case in Delirin handles on Ebay for about $50 you will get a VERY solid knife.
i want to buy a rough rider but i dont know if is good knife. i search for a case or gec but in my country is not exist. if i buy from usa it cost me to much. so ho can tell me what model is good from RR ? sorry for my english.
What other brands are affordable for you? Almost anything made in China is not worth using, they are nice to look at thought. Do u have access to eBay I've done videos on a lot of older knives that are better than what today's market makes.
Where i can see this knives ? In your video ?
+Alin Musat Go to my channel page I have a whole knife section with tons of videos, just click on my name. My latest video is about some great old USA knives that I happen to be selling, where do you live, country? You can also e mail me at ndi91108@yahoo.com, shipping out of the country cost about $15 but for single knives I generally charge only about $10. A good knife should last you a lifetime, these Chinese made knives last no more than a year and if used even for general use will break. If I was out to make a big profit I would sell the Chinese knives, my goal is to provide good knives and help people understand quality. In bulk orders I can get RR for about $3 each but the knives I sell don't even come close to the profit margins if I decided to compromise my name by selling the RR.
Thanks for reviewing knives from. rough Rider. I've heard of them but was not familiar with them.
Enjoyed your video very informative. I thought about getting some rough riders but kind of been on the fence about them your video has made me certainly think twice plus every since I got my first Gec knife been spoiled just love that company. But I would give that rough rider scout knife you have there I try if anything it would become a tool box knife. Anywho take care and happy holidays to you and your family.
Say Heah Dog, Yeah, Just for the hell of it, I thought since I bough the 2Hawk Double Bit Hatchet which is spec'd after Nessmuk ' s double bit hatchet, I also saw some of his other tool's. and he had a Moose Pattern Sliojoint Pocket Knife which he used to work wood with, So when Rough Rider came up with one, I actually bought two, simply because S.M.K.W. had them on sale, When I got them, just like you, They compare great to my Case. In my case, and for what I use them for, so far so good. mine are holding up just fine.
So do a video with one of the case knives and GEC knife and see if they're capable of performing a rough rider or slip joint pocket knives or not to be used in this matter
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Good g enteral information about the brand. What I was looking for.
Can't argue with you on the results. They speak for themselves. But I also probably wouldn't be using the knives for the things your testing them on. That said, that Trapper should not have done that simply by pushing it into a tshirts. I really didn't like the armor hide series. Bought one knife from that series just found it "meh."
The new ones look better and yes these were from one series. They looked nice, better than the Case for sure. Next vid is the comparison video with USA knives. I was nervous that the Other knives would fail, the Case is an edc. Thx for watching
Are they all like that because I was going to buy when I fell in love with the sowbelly Tobacco bone, but if that’s the case I can buy a nice little three blade case at the hardware store for 40 bucks, I think I may just do that. I’m not a knife collector I got five or six knives and they’re all nice. It’s just one is a 110 automatic which is illegal in my state, the other is a fixed knife that I wear around my neck. And I don’t like tactical shit so I wanted an old-fashioned knife in my pocket thanks for the heads up
Great video thanks for the information.
I'll admit I was roped in with the RR knives early on. I have several of them and I have found that the quality is definitely hit and miss. For most light duty EDC tasks I haven't had any issues though. I will say that I've had a Case trapper start to come apart on me when carving some wood, but the difference is I can send it back to Case and have it repaired easy enough. Good luck trying that with a RR knife.
lol yea I can't seem to even find a contact for them; I guess thats by design lol
It’s not the materials (although the blade steel sucks big time...so does Case SS). It’s the peening and probably not having flared holes in the bolster before peening that’s causing it to come apart.
Take a look at the buck slip joints. Reasonable price, good quality.
I wonder if they have started making better quality knives since you made this video? I just did a video on a Rough Rider large Toothpick and someone sent me your video to warn me. Well, I just did your tee shirt test and had no problem at all. I think for extremely light use they are ok.
Thanks for your video. I have a couple that will either be given away or see very gentle use.
Good video. Do you have a video where you put a case Sunfish or Elephant Toenail knife through the same test? Without such a video, the results don't mean much. A reference point would be needed.
+Budding Survivalist czcams.com/video/JTWE8ZFqJ6w/video.html
Hey man, enjoyed the video. You wouldn't happen to have a model name on that "boy scout" knife? looks neat to my eye and I'd love to add it to my collection.
Troy Guinn its a RR not that great, I do have an older Remington Knife thats just like it e mail me with your price range and I will send you some pictures on some good options ndi91108@yahoo.com
Hey man, what a guy!!! you'll be hearing from me shortly :) thanks so much. of course my american pride takes a small hit everytime a put another RR in my small (young and growing) collection of traditional folders. I'd love to get myself an american made "scout" or camp knive for my birthday though :)
You should share this with Smokey Mt. Knife Works. They may be able to apply pressure.
they wouldn't care the profit is greater on these than on the American made knives. I would be surprised if they didn't pay more than $2 a piece for these.
Oh wow, those RR's fared worse in your tests than even I thought they would. We all should be grateful that a good guy like you, went out on a limb to buy & test these. Because now everyone has a clearer picture of what to expect. Some guys wouldn't share these results, but Doggo my friend, you did. I for one, am not going to lower myself to give you a hard time, instead, my respect as always. Ya make damn good truthful videos. I keep telling those who are short on cash, to take a little extra time, save up another 20 bucks, and spend it on a tool that will last & put in a day's work for ya. I know from experience, I've had to sacrifice & save, and I can promise anyone: When ya hold off & save up to buy something worthy, it will be all the sweeter! As for me, well, I can't wait till Doggo makes some more knife videos. Hopefully one about that Case ya had there, for starters! Ever Onward. Cheers.
That ball bearing is called a detent.
Jonathan Kreusch ball bearing rest in the detent, thank u Yea no script here, getting better as I've done videos but to hell with a script. Some youtubers use one like the pro's do. I've always liked youtubers that think out loud rather than be perfect.
No dude, you shouldn’t be hammering slipjoint knives that have small pins. The hammering is what caused that knife to come apart. Slipjoint knives aren’t for hammering. It works just fine cutting, whittling, feathersticking. They’re not built to take that kind of vibrational energy which is what walks the pins out and makes the layers separate.
Dude you are correct this is knife abuse, abuse that I’ve never seen break another knife except rough riders. I nor you have 20 years to test this knife, just as we crash test cars I want to see what a knife can take. These knives are a waste of money until the quality goes up. I tested 4 Chinese knives all broke, I even compared Usa knives in another video no issues. Link below
I think detent is a cool word... I just learnt it too.
interesting video. I guess all the hype that this brand gets is not deserved. I own a few RR's, but have not used them much. The few RR's I own were purchased just so I could experiment with a pattern to see if I enjoyed them.
They look good they just fall apart upon use
Did anyone mention to you those are budget knives???
I like rough rider i have several and never had a problem.If i lose them I am out 10$ if i lose a case im out 50$ or more.But i live couple town over from the SMKW so if they break i take it back an get a new one with out a problem.I know this because the belt clip broke on my favorite RR and they gave me a new one
Devilduck94 And that's exactly why I highly doubt you have a job that pays you good money. Even 10 dollars an hour is CHICKEN FEED. I see young Americans cry about their low pay job, and how there aren't any good jobs like we had decades ago.........yet they insist on buying the cheapest junk they can get their hands on & say "It's all I can afford." Yes they can. It's called "saving your money for a couple months" and then buying the good stuff. That helps CREATE jobs here at home............And they all still wonder why there is no good jobs around. And if by chance you DO have a high paying job, your only hurting YOURSELF in the long run by buying overseas junk from China. Every little thing we do makes a difference. It's all connected. PS..........you can lose a wallet or car keys as easy as ya can lose a knife. JUST DON'T DO IT. If you lose your wallet a couple times with lots of cash in it...........I bet you won't lose it again. Be well and take care.
Great vid
For sure, Please I'll be happy to win one of those knives your giving away, Thanx
Indeed-They make pretty knives, but as you've demonstrated, upon actually using them you'll soon see that they are crap. After having purchased 2 with bone handles and both developing splits at the pin near the spring, I've officially sworn them off.
I'd never say a rough rider is better than a case . Ever but for simple stuff like paper cutting or small box opening they are great. I'd never hate on case.. love their blades. have many. But the RR blades are OK for minimal shit.
I think I lucked out, I K.I.S.S. and my Moose Pattern Sliojoint Pocket Knife work wood just fine. the R C on the 440a is sufficient to hold a edge and sharpen's easy. Sure, the more expensive knives are better made, But other than the 440a stainkess, the Moose Pattern Sliojoint Pocket Knife is built strong, Mine haven't loosened up any yet, so just calle'me lucky.
The ball bearing blade detent is used on many, many knives, and is no excuse for a non-centred blade.
The cost however, is a good excuse for it!
yea your right I lust checked the other RR liner lock and its centered, yea the Case Trapper lock is perfect too
How the hell did this vid have 18 dislikes so far?!
I'll take the boy scout knife!
Sorry sent them out already
Not surprised, we all get what we pay for. Look good but fooling a lot of knifers out there.
they really aren't designed for that kind of use, and the video was not well edited as you kept cutting yourself off mid sentence
I own 3RR's, have used them frequently, and have yet to encounter the problems you've had. I can't explain it, but then I don't baton the sh*t out of them like so many knife reviewers do to proof the Wirth of the knife. I ain't giving you a thumbs up or down, as your experiences with these knives I'm sure is valid, just writing from mine. 🤔
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Dont defend a bad product, RR will deliver if you're honest with them. Heres a video showing both
I'll take that Boyscout knife!
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cute dog
While I agree with buying American made when possible, I'd have to disagree with the opinion stated in the video. I've used the rough Rider version of a split back whittler for whittling for the past year (I simply cannot find an American made version of it). I've had none of these hypothetical problems or any of the problems actually shown in the video. That being said, the split back whittler is quite a bit smaller than what you showed in the video so maybe that stockier more stubby design influences that, but from experience with that particular knife, I'd have to say this is largely a knife snobs (not meant offensively I'm a bit of one myself) opinion. Besides, if you're paying fifteen or less for something you'll use for heavy cutting, you're very clearly not experienced with knives or your "trade" so I'd say these cheap knives have a purpose. Just not for heavy use. Anyone with a reason to use a knife heavily will already know that these are not good for that though. Me sitting on my porch abusing the edge of a cheap knife while whittling is a lot different than me spending a week or more in the woods relying on my blade for everything from food to firewood and which knife I use is entirely dependent on those different factors. Rough riders are by far inferior to case or G.E.C in terms of quality, but they have their place. I have to replace my whittler regardless of brand every couple of years, I'd rather that bill be a lot lower if the knife performs that basic task just as well.
I carry a Douk-Douk, it's bulletproof!!!
+Philip Lobrano great choice!
ooohhhhhh snap I am waiting for a canoe RR :)) dam it :))
just dont use it, their nice to look at
:)) .... ohh ... :)))
why does your dog have no tail?
Rocking chair accident
Yup, get what you pay for
Not always, there is often a mark up on brand names regardless of quality.
Here ya go
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Good video! That Camillius is beautiful. Im gonna have a look see if I can get one of those things here in the UK. Keep up the good work and hope to chat with you again soon.
+lordgerard666 Yea its by far one of my favorite blades, the steel used is the blades is now used in Cold Steels Carbon V blades; best stuff out there
+Doggorunning And what steel would that be, and what makes is the best?
+James Ritchie some of the best, not the best
No way to give u a short a reply but some folks Mileage may differ
Your knife is a tool,use it for what it was designed to do..like any other tool if you abuse it,it's going to fail..if you need to cut a 2 by 4 use a skill saw, much cleaner cut,,try a carving knife to work on wood.
Most knives made in the USA can expect to last two lifetimes, at least. I and you do not have enough time for that review. So abusing the knife is the only way to test it. Performing the same test on RR as I did USA and German knives. The RR all failed, not that I wanted them too. The knives were so pretty, the edges perfect but they failed. Pretty is not what we are testing. As for knowing what tool to use, I'm an NDIT inspector, I've built and worked on aircraft for 20 years, and I just finished building my own house with these hands. It's now worth close to 900K because of my upgrades, I live in Cali. no way to replace hard work and experience. I do appreciate your comment and the fact you were not rude, we would work well together. Take care
The truth here is that if you abuse any knife like you did that sunfish it will develop side to side play,i have case and gec knives and if i even apply a small amount of pressure in a sideways motion they develop bladeplay, so it is unfair to claim that it is only a problem with rough rider knives as it will happen to any folding knife.my opinion therefore is that rough rider are equal or better in quality than the overpriced american junk.
David leavy Wish that was true, love saving money, USA knives tested in this video
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your very correct with that
David leavy I think your statement is HILARIOUS. I can tell you right now, that you ARE abusing knives, if you make the claim that your "getting blade play out of all of them". There's a big difference in CARVING INTO WOOD VERSUS ABUSING A POCKET KNIFE. And evidently, you just don't know how to let THE KNIFE do the work, in other words, if ya keep the blade sharp and allow it to cut within the knife's limitations, it shouldn't start separating. I currently EDC 8 different slip joints. My #73 & #42 & #23 GEC's are absolute work horses. I'm 53 years old & been using traditional American made knives since I was 7 years old, so your not gonna feed my that hogwash. I used a #54 Case Trapper for years in the 70's. Back then, I used to catch enough fish as a kid for my family to have a big fish fry every couple months & invite several guests to eat with my family of 4. THAT IS A LOT OF FISH. ( Bass, bluegill, crappie, catfish ) AND I CLEANED EVERY ONE OF THOSE FISH WITH MY CASE KNIFE......FOR YEARS. NO problems with that knife at all. I just wouldn't scale the fish with a fine blade, I used an old butter knife or fish scaler. I also carved wood & did other cutting chores too. I would still have that knife today, if someone didn't steal it from me. I've got many old friends who did the same thing. Some used their knives to field dress, skin & process all their game, including white tail deer. NO PROBLEMS with their slip joint knives. Today, I have over 230 traditional knives. Most are GEC, but I have quite a few other old quality brands too. Look at Doggorunning's newer video where he does the same cutting tests with the American knives. NO PROBLEMS. That tells me you don't know how to use a knife properly. I can take anything and break it if I wanted to. That's called ABUSE. Furthermore, I see knives & even own a couple slip joint knives that are right at 100 years old, and they WERE USED by past owners. Still no blade play or very little on a couple. NONE are splitting apart like that Chinese JUNK. Traditional slip joint knives have been around close to 200 years. There's a good reason for that. They WORK and they WORK WELL. FOR WHITTLING/CARVING WOOD TO CLEANING FISH & GAME. "The problem" is WITH YOU. And I guarantee you son, the thin blade of an old school slip joint will cut a hell of a lot better than that glorified folding axe handle with a clip on it that you deem as your pocket knife. Probably has a blade that's 1/4" inch thick too. Yeah, it's tough, but it won't cut near as well. And don't try to tell me it does either, I know better. The thinner the blade profile, the finer of a cutting instrument it is. Knives CUT THINGS. They're NOT A PRY BAR. Your not gonna sit there and tell millions of older Americans & Germans & Englishmen that the folding knives they depended on DAILY for over a hundred years..........are "junk". Oh.....and if your simply grabbing the blades and yanking sideways on them.......that's ABUSE. When your actually cutting something, even wood, the wood is applying near equal pressure to both sides of the blade......unlike GRABBING THE BLADE BY HAND & YANKING IT LIKE A DAMN FOOL. That's the same thing as grabbing your open car door and yanking on it up & down. Guess what. Your soon gonna have a loose car door that won't shut right too. I swear, you young guys think you know it all, when actually........you have so much to learn.......like how to properly use a damn pocket knife.
Howabouthetruth calm down you fool.
Just for record I'm older than you young man.
thanks for the infor. i am a new collector and i'd heard rough riders were good china made knives. your vids are very helpful. bobdye
Robert Dye buy some rough rider..its good knife to be part of your collection..do not believe too much with the video, I owned some and I love it
Kershaw makes a good knife, but sharper than a Case? No, not even close. On top of which, if you're an actual knife user, stop being impressed by a knife that's razor sharp out of the box. Only marketers and those who know very little about knives even want a knife that sharp. All it means is that you have a knife that won't last five minutes before it needs sharpened. The bevel is ground for showing off, not for usage. Rough Rider makes some very good knives. This just isn't one of them.
Owe well I'm the real deal and have to agree to disagree on all your points
damn your picky if you don't have much money you have to do what you want to do
rwb warriorsfan2009 right being poor means you must make bad decisions? I find those that have little understand quality and the benefit of something that won't break. Some could use a good mentor
Doggorunning No some could use a smack of reality to the common man a average person who is going to use a pocket knife sometimes doesn't need a 50 to 100 dollar knife espically if you are not going to use it everyday c'mon USE YOUR HEAD
and I'm a man who like American tools but the Chinese corporations are selling the same things as American items but for a whole lot cheaper and for a cheaper quality
I'm here to be put off rough rider
I had the same luck with rr knives they are junk.
Go to my channel hit the "About Tab" click "send message"; I need a good mailing address please. Remind me in the PM I have an effort able Buck folder that I will send you.
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So why are you giving it to a child?
These are great knives to practice your sharpening on, they get nice and sharp and are cheap. For a young child I recommend fixed blades for ten and above a nice liner lock or locking tax folder. A well made slip joint these days cost to much for a child to lean on. For thirty bucks you can get a USA made benchmade. Just my two cents
The thing to keep in mind about these blades is that they're perfectly fine while they are in your pocket. If you ever need them to perform a knife task, however, like whittling a piece of wood or cutting anything harder than a sandwich, they're likely to fail. Carry them at your own risk. The 40 year old Case, or American made Shrade, or even Kutmasters that I use for EDC, do just fine.
yea most folks dont understand quality, I prefer to buy something that will last, perform, and pass on to my kids. Better yet when you tire of a Case, Schrade etc you can always sell it on Ebay and get most of your cash back. Second hand knives that were not abused sell for a nice price. A mint 1980 era Schrade in mint condition $28 a lightly used on will sell for $18. Fathers have done a poor job on passing knowledge down to their offspring. We live in a disposable wasteful world
Doggorunning junk
You are even stupider than I thought. The best Schrade every made, or the best Old Timer, uses the cheapest, junkiest steel money could buy. There literally is no worse steel than what those knives were made of. Rough Rider knives have long since proven how long lasting and durable they are, and you have to be a complete idiot not to understand the materials used to make their knives is better than what is used in most top end American made knives.
440a steel is used in many of the top end made in America knives, and has been for decades. Even the military uses tons of 440a every year.
And Rough Rider steel is actually better than our 440a. I know, everyone says Rough Rider steel is 440a. Too bad. It can't be 4450a because China doesn't make 440a, 440b, or 440c. They have their own formulas, and eh 440 stainless put into Rough Rider knives has a higher Rockwell, more abrasion resistance, and more fluid grain than our 440a. It falls right at the lower end of our 440c, and is really a blend of all three steels.
And if you had any sense at all, you would not only test knives in a way that replicated how they're used, you would also try other patterns from RR. But you don't know enough to do either.
the same thing has happened to my Case Medium Stockman without cutting wood in the manner you just did with that RR Sunfish or forcing it in any way.i read and saw a lot of Case reviews, and decided to go the extra financial mile, and i got this... i think that you, reviewers get better knives from the factory because your opinion is widely seen, so they are probably being extra careful. but i would like to challenge one of you, reviewers to buy like 5-10 Case knives from Amazon or incognito, and see how many of them turn out that better than china made ones.
+Szakács Előd I bought the Case and RR knives off Ebay
To get a 1inch wide blade sruck into some wood and then twist a 1 and a half inch wide handle as hard as you can is bound to bust something, that's more torque than any slip joint is made to take
Yeah, Chinese slip joints usually suck.
well instead of just saying it, I had to test it. As nice as they looked I really wanted them to work well :(