Logic's I/O Plugin - Your Analog Gear, in-the-Box
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Love Logic Pro but missing your external analog gear? Integrate your hardware into your Projects with the I/O plugin. The I/O plugin is your ticket to a hybrid workflow.
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00:00 - Intro
1:00 - I/O Plugin Overview
2:59 - Routing the I/O Plugin to Your External Gear
4:28 - Correcting Latency
5:36 - Gain-Staging to and from your External Gear
7:09 - Adding Additional Processors and Latency
9:35 - Printing/Recording Your Hardware Effects on Individual Tracks
14:47 - Printing/Bouncing Your Hardware Effects on a Whole Mix - Hudba
Lol I’ve been banging my face on the keyboard all day trying to figure out how to correctly route the I/O for my 500 series rack and set up the hardware inserts in Logic. I was beginning to accept that maybe I am simply too stupid to understand how this $3000 thing works and I might as well have set my money on fire instead. The way you explained this couldn’t possibly have been better. You saved my life!
Been wanting a video like this. I work with analog gear in my studio and people should know about how powerful this is.
This was exactly what I needed to know to make a BOSS RE-202 an external stereo effect in Logic, thanks! 😁
Thank you so much for this video. You’ve saved a lot of headaches with I/o routing, real time printing and latency compensation. 🙌🏼
absolutely brilliant, and exactly what i needed after hooking up my eventide. you didn't miss a trick, but there was also no extraneous information. A+, owe you a beer!
This is sooooooooo much easier than what I've been doing. Thank you Chris!
This is great! Definitely going to use my Kemper like this in the future to re-amp and preserve dry tracks. I'm learning so much about Logic and all the features I thought I'd never use from your channel, thanks!
This has truly been a great help for me. I just purchased my first hardware compressor and I love it. Thank you. ✊🏾🙌🏾
Fantastic insight. I wasn't even aware of the I/O plugin, and have been using a convoluted way to work in a hybrid fashion. This is going to deeply impact my workflow for the positive. Thanks.
I’m just starting out, so everything is in the box at the moment. Watching this video makes me really wish I had some outboard great to play with. Great video!
Spent most of yesterday researching how to do this correctly without success but this video was spot on! Thanks man!
This has been a big help! Thank you. Time to change interfaces to utilize the output features into a mix-bus mastering compressor.
Unbelievably helpful and to the point. Great video
Awesome 1:39 - thanks for the routing roadmap.
Super clear and informative video as always Chris! Thank you
Top marks for your videos man. I don't even own any outboard gear, but I loved watching this one. Maybe sometime soon I'll have some routing needs. But in any case, always good to learn stuff like this. Thanks!
Near flawless delivery. Thank you so much!!
Thank you for the detailed set up demonstration 🙌🏼
Thank you for this video, I was stressing over figuring out how to use some new outboard gear I just got and this helped me a lot!! Thanks!!
Brilliant help thank you. Clear and to the point !
Thank you!! Its been a long time since I've done this and I needed to do it for an upcoming project asap. Great explanation! I also realized how I need to do this more often for other things too. I'm working with a element 88 + WA76
Very helpful & concise. Thank you.
Thanx for this vid and keep the great stuff coming 😊
great info thanks just got the pro via and looking fwd to trying this. I bus all my midi to audio automatically so thanks for confirming this
many thanks you have answered many of my questions.
Well explained….. you making me enjoy Logic Pro X even more. Thanks Chris
Liked and Subscribed. Thank you so much for this video and information!
Another great vid 👍🏻👍🏻
this was very useful, thank you
If you set the main track's output to say bus 1, then create a new track with output set the no output (only when recording to prevent double playback) and set the new track's input to bus 1 you can achieve this same result, recording anything going through bus 1 analog with I/O plugin or any other plugin then on playback mute main track and set output desired on the new recorded track, great video thanks for the knowledge on I/O
Thank you! Great video
Man, thanks. This will be very helpful
is it really necessary to make the bus to print the i/o plugin? can't you just add an audio track, and select the inputs that correspond to the outputs in the I/O plugin?
Excellent video. I feel even better moving away from Pro Tools to Logic as my main DAW.
Superb explanation
Yes! There's a case to be made that if you only could use one plugin, this would be it since it basically makes all your rack gear, pedals, modular, etc. all work in the digital domain.
Thank you so much for this video
Thanks man I appreciate it.
Thanks a lot, very useful
Also I was today years old when I found out logic essentially lets you use parallel processing with hardware using the IO plugin 🤯
wow. thanks for this !
This was good. Maybe add what the mid side option does in IO
Hi Chris, first of all, thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge on Logic Pro X. Love all your videos, and especially this one. I’ve been looking for solid answers about how “I/O External Processing”really works and, as always, you nailed it! Thank you so much! There’s only one question that remains in my mind; the setting on the buffer has to be 1024 samples or lower? Because of the latency. Sometimes I’ve experienced that Logic “print” the audio a little bit late, and I don’t know if it’s because of the buffer settings or the “ping” button, or a combination of both. Once again, thank you, and not only for the amount of content but the way you do it 🙏🏻✨💚
The other trick is to make sure the external gear is in bypass (if it has any time delay fx) as that will ensure you get the real delay and its not effected by reverb/delay/whatever
Great! Thank you!
awesome sauce
Awesome!
Really appreciate the effort you put into your videos! I was wondering how you record the audio from Logic into the screen recording? When I do mine, it seems to be a different level ;(
Great video!! Have you tried the I/O plugin with a traditional routing for parallel processing? Does it perform well w/o phase issues?
This video was very helpful how to set up I/O in Logic.Coming from using a (rip off daw)Pro Tools and switch over to using Logic Pro X and Luna have to learn the software set my gear properly…..
Great video! This was helpful. How do you bounce a mix with multiple stereo hardware units in Logic?
Hi Chris. Please could you make a tutorial for recording midi and audio from an outboard synthesiser into Logic Pro X. I'm sure a lot of people starting out with an analogue synth would appreciate this.
Love your stuff, very insightfull. To add an extra way to this proces. You could just create a new track, set it to record from, lets say inputs 1&2, the inputs that recieve the incoming audio from your external gear. Same deal right? Or wont this play nice with the I/O plugin? Its seems an extra step to route internal audio to a bus and a new audiotrack recieving from that bus. just some thoughts!
All of your videos have been immensely helpful, many thanks for this! Would the following work: Say I am tracking several tracks of guitars without the time based hardware effects, as I want to add them later. Can I send them all to the same bus (does it matter if its a bus or Aux send?) and have the I/O plugin on that bus an not on each separate guitar track. Can I then solo each guitar track and print the respective settings of my external effects one track after the other until they are all done?
Love this video helped me a ton. I'm having some problem with a feedback or like a doubling sound when doing some processing with either my Klark EQ or ART compressor. Does anyone know why?
Hi, super useful video. I have a question: what you think is best for external analog summing, routing your busses into the analog mixer using I/O plugin or using the outputs without the plugin? Or it makes no differences? Thankyou!
Thanks, can you add multiple io per track for additional outboard hardware. Also why use it as opposed to auxs?
Great video :) I'm kinda new to Logic, and I'm wondering if there's a way to apply vst effects (like Valhalla reverbs) to hardware synths? I suppose the only way to do this, is to bounce the synth's sound first, and then apply the fx plugin?
Love your videos Chris. I know you are a fan of the symphony desktop. It doesn't have a line out except optical. Anyway it can it be used with outboard gear?? Thanks
Hi there thank you for this nice video. So if I understand what you are explaining here, Outboard gear can include my pedal board also? Can you explain how I can use my pedals that way and wether or not it makes a difference as opposed to plugging the out of my board into the guitar inputs (5-6) of my M-Audio 192-18. And also, is there a way to synchronize the tempo of the boomerang looper with Logic when recording? I seem to always be off a bit and I do use the click.
I love you 💕💕
Hey! should it be 1 or 2 or the inputs without the pre amps, in the photo you've shown 3/4 which I reckon are the ones that dont have a preamp?
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Hi Chris. Thank you for this video. Just wondering if the same process works on the stereo output channel of the whole project. I’m wanting to set up an outboard “mix bus” and thought I’d use Logics I/O plug-in to do so. I imagine it would work like a digital summing mixer.
thank you so much for this video. i would like to ask what cable shoule i use to connect? do i use unbalanced or balanced TRS ? when do i use XLR? it seems quite comfusin.
Remember when we had to mix our songs from Logic, through a digital / analog mixer then bounce the final song to CD, DAT, or ADAT?
This old'school style (in my opinion) sounded better than a digital "BOUNCED" file.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but could this Printing / Bouncing method with the I/O Plugin be used to produce the same or a similar effect??
For example, if I mixed a song using an Analog mixer -- adding some COMPRESSION, EQ, etc then route the main outs back into Logic Pro using the I/O plugin....
Will this method work??
Hi Chis. Great video.
Do you know if this is possible with the Apogee Symphony Desktop?
Hello I purchased a Allen and Heath gl2400. Would I take this same approach to connect to logic ?
So if I'm getting the gist of how this I/O plug-in works ... this is what I would use if I want to incorporate an analog mixing board into my workflow, correct?
How do you use the Bus method if you have other sends on your track? Copy/paste the other sends after printing?
Your videos are very helpful, thanks for doing this. I have noticed a small discrepancy using this ping method. I have a uad x4 & when I use the ping option, I also get 1 sample latency offset. So I ve decided to check with sample clip recorded from the test oscilator plug with frequency set to 1KHz. I copied/pasted the clip in two different tracks & I flipped the phase in one of them. The result is that it doesn't cancel completely, which can be expected from the one hand, but if I drop the latency offset back to zero it cancels a bit more (as the total output level is reduced further). Do you have any idea what might causing this ? Thanks a lot
can you use this to reamp guitars as well?
Thank you for the very informative video. I have hooked up the ART compressor just like you did, but when I try to process audio through it, with the slider set to 100% wet signal on the IO plug-in, all I get is feedback. What by am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Jamie
Hey Chris. Great vid! I have a question. If I’m bouncing my stereo stems to tape simultaneously as I’m printing back to another track, would you use this plugin or, just route straight from the interface? Does this I/O plug-in only apply to effects or, does it also apply to an external cassette or, reel to reel, etc?
hey man! Did you ever get an answer on this? I don't have outboard gear, but have a couple reel to reels, tascam portastudio, etc. Right now, I just do it the hard way, but it's extra playback time that adds up.
Hey Chris , helpful vid as always. Quick question . If i want to run an outboard effects pedal through soft synth via i/o can i record in realtime to capture effect in the synth or do i have to already have soft synth MIDI there and then run effects pedal through it? Hope that makes sense ;-)
I know you were asking Chris, but maybe I can help!
You should be able to send your synth out and through your effect pedals in real time, or with a pre-arranged MIDI track. The only issue might be that if the latency may through off your ability to play the part in real time (if it is a significant amount of latency).
Hey Chris, I really enjoyed the video, but you showed only one piece to use. I made the statement because I just acquired the following equipment from someone who owed me money (long story), and I am not sure how I would hook this up to my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 based on what you showed in the video. Here is what I have: Roland JV2080; Alesis QSR; Peavey Spectrum Organ; Digitech Vocalist II; ART 2 CH. Tube Pre Amp; ART PRO VLA; Lexicon MPX 100; and Behringer Tube Ultragain Compressor. I am not sure if I can hook all of this up to use in Logic for the Scarlett. Anything instruction, advice, or tips you can give me would be excellent. Thank you.
Hello sir , great video. What if my analog gear only has one channel? (one input and one output)? will the i/o inputs and outputs show up as separate instead of grouped,like it is for you (9-10)? How could i use,for example a WA-2A in the box? would it work? Thanks in advance
Hi regarding routing the signal back into logic via the interface. I'm using a behringer X32 as my interface, and the onboard effects, but since they are one and the same I think I need to route somehow on the desk to return to logic. do you have any ideas on what this would be?
I’ve had issues where things in the preferences related to latency had to be made. Did you do anything there?
Hi i know you sent it to a buss to record the processing but you can also just route the output of the track with the I/O plugin' to an audio track's input that's set to a buss right?
I am using an Apogee + the ART Voice Channel. I have 1&2 INPUT and then The USB-OUT as well the R&L OUT for monitoring.
How would you set this up?
I am trying to to replay what I recorded from my MBP - Interface - ARTVC - Interface - Headphones..... so that I can listen back to the recording as I am dialing in the ART's Comp,EQ...etc.
How would you connect this? Would you use Mono or Stereo cables? Would you go mono L&R OUT into a combined STEREO single cable? Routing?
Thanks. =)
Does that BNC button on the stereo out channel above the Solo button do the same thing as bounce that you show here? thanks!
Thank you Chris, a question my friend, how to route audio from a stand alone VST into Logic track? is that possible?
Did you have to plug in the FireWire into the computer from the Focusrite interface?
I'm using a 18i8 and I'm trying to put a Chase Bliss MOOD mk2 as a looped in effect using outputs 3-4 coming back in on 5-6 (i's a stereo pedal). I cannot get it to work even trying to set routing in Focusrite Control. Any suggestions anyone?
Would you then mute or delete the original track if you did not want it in your final mix?
I have a focusrite 4pre interface and i tried to connect my warm audio compressor try to do everything you showed in this video but i can get sound going to the compressor, my interface have 4 inputs and 4 outputs what you think the problem can be?
what would make my outboard signal to be hotter in ch 2 than ch 1. could that be a wiring issue?
What if my latency offset is negative? Usually -60 around there. What does this mean?
Hey one thing you didn’t cover was tracking live vocals or instruments in this process. What would that process be like? I want to be able to route my compressor to my interface in the same way, and record into the DAW with it.
Hey! Great point. If you want to record through your outboard gear going into the interface, you would plug your microphone into the outboard compressor and then plug the compressor into the interface. But of course, you would need a preamp before the compressor to set your microphone level accordingly. I'll try to cover this in a future video. If you don't want to commit your compressor to the recording, then you would use the I/O plugin as described in the video. That way you're just monitoring through the compressor, but not recording the compressor. Thanks!
you could also record the vocals dry, and then bounce them through the compressor to a new track
hello, can someone help me? I am using analog inserts and an analog summing mixer. everything works fine but i can't do SOLO in any track, nothing is heard. does anyone know how to fix it?thanksss
Will this work with a focusrite scarlett interface?
Good video I learned a lot but I’m still having problems. I have 60 tracks that I want to run through my outboard compressor via stereo output. Do I have to use the I/O plug-in on all the tracks? I’ve only seen videos that only explain how to use the plug-in only using one or two tracks.
Seems like they covered that at the end of vid
Hello, Do you know if you can solo the tracks to print this? This is because there are other tracks in the project.
HI can use this in live mode ...say i want to record gtr i/o into a " distressor " comp whilst recording you know for the vibe ? Thx in advance
Nice insights; very educative. My question tho; if the audio returning from your outboard gear is routed via an input channel on ur soundcard, why create a bus instead of picking that return input (on the soundcard) as the input for your new track?
I was wondering the same
@@jmhdsn me too
I think if you just arm the input channel to record you don't get the delay compensation you would with IO plugin. Great question!
Great question! In my experience, sometimes the latency compensation from the I/O plugin isn't accounted for when recording in the way you described. I find it safer to set up a bus instead.
@@WhyLogicProRules Nice, makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to answer.
When I try to use parallel processing the two tracks are slightly out of phase. Is this normal?
No i/o on Stereo output?
not getting any results. it goes silent when I/0 is on. are you available for consultation or something?
I also have just one piece of outboard gear, but I can’t use it because for some reason Logic won’t make up for the latency so it just sounds like crap when I try. I’ve tried ever scenario, and nothing fixes it. The ping calculates +619 samples, but doesn’t do anything about it. It’s quite frustrating considering I’ve had this piece of equipment for over a year and only get to use it when I track with it. I bought it specifically for my mixbus and tracking. I’m getting half of the deal. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me?
Well hmm what is the outboard gear you’re using ?