Fixing The Self Propel On A Toro Mower
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Thanks for watching. This mower is only a few years and it's in desperate need of maintenance.
This video is meant as entertainment, always practice safety.
Simple wins it for me. Got one I found in the woods more than a couple decades ago. Replaced the starter rope and handle and it has served me well.
completely agree
Where do you get replacement rope?
@@gtarules1 hardware store, Wallyworld, eBay...
I agree that Self propelled mowers are not just for Senior but for users want ease of use for cutting their lawns. Plus it is amazing that a Senior citizen put a big effort into the maintenance of his mower.
I know right, when I found out, I was kind of shocked.
Have the same mower fixing it, and I liked it so much I kept it for myself instead of selling
I can see why
Real story here, about 12 years ago when I was working at a dealership, the Toro Commercial mowers were constantly coming in under warranty because the drive stopped working. There were 4 techs in the shop, and these things kept coming in on the regular under warranty to repair the drive, and we were being overburdened by it. All that was happening is that the belt would come off. Easy enough right, put the belt back on? Sure, but then they'd be back a week later with the same issue. I started to get mad, and began designing a belt guide bracket, cut and drilled by hand, that I started putting on all the Toro Commercials that came in with that issue (Lawnboy is the same thing, same machine, just green). They never came back after. SO I ended up building about 100 of these brackets to keep on hand, and put the box of finished brackets out for all the techs to use as needed. Well guess what, not long after, Toro started installing their own at the factory, same shape, same design as mine.... they basically copied my idea and used the part I created. Never got so much as a 'thank you' or any recognition at all.
wow that incredible how that happened
This one shined up real well. I still have a couple of the Lawn Boy's from the 70's that I use every season just to put some fuel through them.
very nice, that reminds me I need to get my lawn boys working again
I have seen a lot of the base model Toros with the stamped deck split by the front wheels and/or by the discharge chute. The super recycler is a great machine although expensive. I like the personal pace self propel as well.
me too, and I think they're worth it.
Hey bro what's up? I personally like how the owner of this mower tried his best in keeping up with the maintenance of his mower. Also hearing that he is also a senior citizen and did some maintenance to his equipment is amazing.
I know right, it made me proud to hear it.
Started using a self propelled mower about 3 years ago. Since I'm old, 60, I wouldn't go to anything else unless I really have to.. Don't have a large lawn but it does help.
I completely understand
I just pick up one like this one that my friend was going to throw out due to not starting. He rather buy a other one. Better for me. I’m fixing it once it stops raining here. 👍🙏👍🙏
nice, good luck with it!
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Thanks it should be a easy fix and wash as well
Cleaned up nicely! The blade looks almost new
it's not bad, the next one though has an untouched blade.
Great video, solved my problem in about 1 minute. Thank you!
Glad it helped!
Great Video...easy to follow, just fixed mine. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
I have this exact mower. It’s my second one. The first one sacrificed its transmission to the aggressive hills in my yard. I replaced all the internals and it worked great again. That’s when I found out the gears were plastic, but the commercial grade Toro’s had brass gears. I almost bought one of those mowers instead of repairing mine, but they were $600 back around 2005. I gave that mower to my parents when I divorced and moved to an apartment. When I got a house, I got another Toro PP. Flat yard, no problems going on ten years. I also have a Timemaster with the PP system. It’s the best self propelled system out there.
wow you've got some great mowers!
Thank you for the video! Recently got a very similar mower to this working after it had sat for probably five years with a new cheap carburetor off Amazon. I’m going to have to try moving that personal pace cable housing and see if that helps. My wheels turn when off the ground, but not doing much when down in the grass. Definitely going to get a jug of that degreaser, you got that mower looking like new! Thanks, again!
yes you're going to like it, just be careful with it.
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thank you for watching
I’m very fond of Toro’s Personal Pace system and the Smart Stow feature. I’m a Toro guy but I have to say I just got done mowing my lawn tonight with my new (to me) Honda HRN216 and I’m really impressed! I’ve owned and serviced many of the older HRR series mowers in the past and I never really cared too much for them, but this last gen HRN216 is awesome and a real keeper. Lightweight, nimble and cuts beautifully. Even tall damp grass doesn’t clump up with the rear chute engaged, performs much better than I thought it would based on my experience with the older models. I won’t be selling that one.
nice, I've been looking for an HRN to purchase myself
I got this same mower for 20 bucks. There was a stick in the blade and it started. Spent 20 in parts and bought a side chute and sold it for 200
nice work!
Great lawn mower!
It sure is!
Nice and clean😊
thanks!
Good day IHG I just found 1 like this 2 weeks ago. Garbage would not take it , full tank of gas, & empty oil.
Brought home started, put oil in, but drive does not work I will have to do what u did.
Boy cleaning them makes them look like new mower. Thanks for showing.
nice find! and yes a good cleaning makes them look much better!
I don't know what if any mower I'd recommend now. I was dealing with the old stuff for so long I lost track. Out of the loop. And anything new is made complicated on purpose. I am satisfied with what we have NOW because of the position we're in as far as age and health goes BUT I didn't need another truck so we got a mower. Simple. Don't need to haul much but the grass keeps growing and it'll be US cutting it as long as we can. And with that, we modify our mowing options. The owners of that mower were exceptional in the care they gave it. That we would do the same. Thanks and Blessings
I like the way you put that
perfect time to adj the valves too with a feeler guage at 0.005 since oil hadn't been changed in a while keeps the noise chatter down
you are correct
I did not know the belt tension was adjustable! I will try that on ours as the other day I’ve noticed the mower was having trouble going up our yard where it hasn’t before.
I believe this is also the final generation Toro Recycler that came with the water port, built in side discharge and the 163cc Briggs engine.
The rubber flap at the rear of the mower works surprisingly well at making lawn stripes in addition to protecting your legs!
you got that right makes it look good.
Brother just gave me one like this but the self propelled doesn’t work so thanks to you I’ll see if I can adjust the cable like you did! Thx!!
no problem and good luck with it.
I have used the garden hose on the hose adapter part for underneath and dried it and just blew off the top part of the deck with air to remove grass clippings that accumulate there.
That's a great idea!
My mower is a TroyBilt TB 240. I like it because it was a curb find ans has a Honda GCV 160 engine that starts with one pull.
very nice, and free is always good!
hey HG I have aquired a few Toro personal pace with tecumseh engines they seem to be on the oldest of the personal pace model . Also found a few with electric start which unfortunitly were pretty worn out pushing only 60 to 80mPSI compression but I still have them . Most of the electric starts people stoped using because they had no way of charging them unless they left them in there garage but they mot had a shed with no power to it . Kinda wish they offer a solar charging option with there electric start models
yes the solar charger would have kept a lot of the battery starters working for a lot longer.
Glad it was only the cable need to be adjusted on but the belt probably getting worn out on it but I appuld the effort to take care of it some
yes you might be right about that
Some Toros do come with a no name engine, about 5 years ago I bought the cheapest SuperRecycler Toro (because I wanted a magnesium deck) that both me and the dealer thought was a Kohler engine, but turned out to be a clone when it came time to replace the carb from ethanol damage 2 years ago. It took my local Toro dealer by surprise as well as me, as 95% of Kohler parts fit this engine, the carb was NOT one of them, and I'm still trying to find a replacement.
as long as I don't get them, I'm okay with
@@silverS70 Yep, mine is an SR4 SuperRecycler with that engine, and I can't find the proper carb to replace mine,, as mine got eaten by ethanol, aluminum turning to powder and crumbling in the center stack where the bowl bolt goes into, even using treatments and draining the fuel.
I got toro RWD single speed. Used 1 time and wheels sometimes lock up when pulling it backwards. Going to return it and get FWD.
good choice!
I actually have a very similar mower right now. It's not a personal pace but is self propelled.
nice, either one is great.
To much oil in the engine is a great thing to cause it to smoke from the muffler and it can cause it to be hard to get started up because of the higher than normal compression
ah you make a good point!
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE cool beans 🫘 there young man I had a person who I worked with stated that her push mower was hard to start found out that it had to much oil in the engine told her to drain it and start over putting in the proper amount of oil in the engine problem was fixed
I'm looking for more TOROs
that too.
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I do have a question adjusting coil for the wheels can it have to much causing a sound like the wheels are grinding. thank you
not that I know of.
I have that same mower the wife got it for me.five hundred some dollars They didn't have any rear drive mowers .we live on a hill Rear drive mowers climb the hill better. I just got to push it up the hill Anyways thank you for the video
thank you for sharing that, I appreciate it.
I got one for $20 lol I'll have to see if I can find parts for it. The pace belt (or I will try the link tightening as shown here first) and a wheel.
good luck with it
Would I want an expensive self propeled push mower with lots of features? Depends. I have a Toro Recycler with Personal Pace, and I love the PP. For many years, it was my primary mower for my small suburban lot. For that small lot, yes I like the PP feature. I have recently moved to a property with MUCH more mowing requirements, and for that, a push mower is only for trim work. For that, I would prefer a simpler mower without the self propeled feature. I'm not getting rid of the Toro, though. Who knows what the future holds, and I doubt I'd be able to get any significant money for a 10+ yr old mower. even though it's in good shape. I prefer gas engines for mowers, and in a few years, I won't be able to buy a mower like mine.
BTW, the Toro riding mowers use no-name engines, so I wouldn't be surprised if they start showing up on the push mowers.
really? I'll have to look into the riders, thank you for the information
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I should clarify. SOME Toro riding mowers use no-name engines. Some use Kawasakis. But I've seen more of the no-name engines than Kawasakis.
The engines are not a no name. They are built for Toro by Li Fan to their specs. They also use them on the Exmark and there have been no real issues with them .
@@MUUKOW3 In some circles, Li Fan may not be a no-name, but I've never heard of them. I HAVE heard good things about those engines. Taryl & his brother like them. They have seen a decent amount, but have not had to repair one yet. Although, there aren't as many of them out there as, say Kohler, Briggs, and Kawasaki.
Wow that mower cleaned up nice! Did you scrub it at all off camera or did you truly just spray it with cleaner and rinse it off? I might have to give that degreaser a try.
for this one the paint was already in excellent condition so I didn't have to do any polishing on it. just spray rinse and let dry
After having my honda with self propel, l would definitely want a mower with features like self propel, and electric start if it were an option.
well said
You got a real winner. You got the grass bag for it?
this is not my mower, wish it was though.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Happy customer then. Nice job.
I had a 2007 Toro fwd mower with a 6.5 horsepower Tecumseh engine. It blew the valves and I didn't figure it out until it started leaking oil from the exhaust. Never getting a Tecumseh again.
it happens
I hate to say, that E-series rivals most any no-name engine. Do you have any concerns about toxic run-off from that cleaning solution? (And yes, I've been accused of being a tree hugger without the arborist's experience)
I'm just afraid one day, I'll see an inexpensive overseas engine on a great deck, in the future. It can't remember what it says on the bottle but it recall it saying it's biodegradable and safe for animals, but don't quote me on that, and nothing wrong with your concerns. I don't like to hurt anything either
Have learned quite a bit watching your videos and thank you for taking the time. The question I have is when you use the degreaser to clean the machines are you using it full strength or diluting it as this is strong stuff. Looking forward to future videos.
it depends, but full strength, I just leave washing the deck to near last so that there's water on it to somewhat dilute it.
My toro mower says that the engine oil doesn’t need replacement…as is lifetime. What you think of this? I have used the mower for 3 years and I have never replaced the oil.
for those mowers, I mostly agree with what they say, except I would change it and do only one oil change after the initial break in period. After that, just keep an eye on it and add oil when needed.
When you pulled the engine over, it made a huffing noise, same with when it would shut off. I’ve noticed other engines do that too, what is that?
as far as I can tell, it seems fine, but some would say otherwise.
I think the "huffing" noise you are describing is the compression release that's integrated into the intake cam lobe. You will hear the "huff" primarily in the intake on these engines
What are your thoughts on Exmark mowers?
High priced Toro's !!!!!!!!!
they're a great brand, bit overkill and pricey though
We have a Lazer z E series and the only problems we had with it is a few years ago we had a hard time starting it for the season. But a couple months ago when my mini jeep would not turn on we had to jump start it with the mower and i think it started up first try like it was ran a couple minutes ago. Love the fx730v engine. We were going to sharpen our bladed but we lost some parts so we have to wait. I made a diy chute blocker on it but it id too thick so it does not close all the way. So i might make a thinner one or just keep it like that because we only need it in the first acre of our property because we put everything down there. One weird thing about it is it bogs down a bit in the woods where the grass grows a bit faster but on the sand mound where i broke 2 pipes and water goes out of them often watering a couple feet of grass on both sides. But in summer the sides are green and the middle is yellow. Im not walking with buckets of water 2 acres down to water it. Anyways. The grass grows to a foot or in the summer when the grass is going slow and im not cutting it as often it grows 2 or 3 feet and the mower barley bogs down with dull blades! There is 10 more years until we have to get a new one or it lasts more than 20 years
nice work
I just had a really bad day. I was finally hired on as a diesel technician for a company that services tanker trucks after nearly two months of job hunting. Let’s just say that I didn’t last two full days before quitting because of how horrible my experience was there. The shop itself was a cluttered mess, the other technicians were very unfriendly and unwilling to help me, and the master technician who was supposed to be training me was constantly going out back to smoke cigarettes, leaving me stranded with something I didn’t know what to deal with for a half hour at a time. But the worst part is that they expected me to have special tools that I currently don’t have. I actually got in a fight with one of the other technicians because of it and that was the last straw. I don’t feel like I want to stay in this industry because of it
wow that was a bad experience for sure, but I'd hold off for a minute. The experience you had at that shop, was just that shop. It doesn't represent all the other places you could work at.
My Toro recycler is rear wheel driven, and when the mower is off I can't move it I have to lift the back of the mower what could be the issue?
can you roll it backwards? If so, the ratcheting mechanism in the drive gear is the problem
@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I can move it forwards but not backwards is what I meant to say sorry I should've mentioned that
I like gasoline mowers but after using one for 30 years it started having problems which couldnt be fixed anymore. While using gasoline mower i had electric corded one my mother used it because the other one was heavy and it didnt had self propel. The electric one is still going strong even after almost 30 years also the electric corded mowers have shown that they are reliable simple and even easyer to maintain and to use except handiling the extension cord. And i will recommend anyone who needs to buy a cheap mower to go with electric corded one because they are proven over years and only downside is the extension cord which is a bit troublesome but after you mow one season with it you get used to it.
I'm wondering how the brushes on the electric mower haven't disappeared yet? they don't last very long.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Its AC induction motor so it doesnt have brushes i just checked.
oh I see that makes sense
So about the solar panels comment... I have a Honda with an electric start, and I'm pretty sure the mower charges the battery when I use it cause I've had it for 3 years, and I've never charged the battery. (I actually know for a fact that it charges as I use it, just like your car does.)
not all engines have an alternator, I'll have to look up the honda one to find out.
Toro's are the new Honda. Toro hasnt closed any plants and is still supporting their products and producing parts. Honda and Husqvarna have fully stopped supporting their gas small engine products.
Toro isn't even Toro. It's MTD.
@@erocker78 , exactly, they have multibrands. 2 big landscaper outfits in my neck of the woods, ditched their Honda fleet in June. There mowers were fairly new. Was wondering why. Then I read Honda got out of the small engine business and Husq. Went full battery .
nice, thank you for the information
@@jwayne777 good for them. We all have to send a message and show these companies that replacing our gasoline engines with battery electric is not future as they are trying to portray it. They just want our money. That's all it's about. I bet all these politicians who are pushing this electric crap have a ton of money invested it in the stock market. I'm not buying their crap.
Known brand Briggs over cheap crap any day.
Looking for more HONDAS
me too.
Hey if you can reply I will greatly appreciate it I have the same push mower and it has a slight knocking noise
sure can, unfortunately the knock might be "rod Knock" and the only way to fix it would be to replace the rod. It also be the coil hitting flywheel , so I'd check that as well.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE ok well its knocking while cutting grass but while runing not cuting it runs fine
Also make sure your blade is tight!
Ok thanks
Unfortunately you can't stop evolution. Robotic mower are definitely the future just look at all the vacuums people have in their homes now. As much as I enjoyed working on things I particularly enjoy the task of "having" to mow.
for the price, no thanks, I'd rather use a gasoline mower over a robotic one.
To be honest i don't see why many people are so opposed to electric, for the vast, vast majority of people, a good battery powered mower is simply superior.
Less vibrations, less noise, very little maintenance, easier to "refuel" and lighter.
I love my petrol and my petrol powered machines (In fact id love to own lawn equipment from the 60s-70s) but electric is the future, and not a very bleak one in regard for yard maintenance
My primary push mower is over 10 yrs old. I have a zero turn that's around 20 yrs old. Do you think any of the current crop of battery powered equipment will be in service in 10 or 20 years? How many battery mowers and battery packs will I need to mow 2 acres weekly for the next 20 years?
I'm an electrical engineer. I really like electric motors, but I don't think battery powered equipment is to the point of being an equivalent replacement for my current mowers.
@@gearhead366 the batteries will fail, but modern brushless motors wont. So long as you swap the batteries like in any other tool, talking about push mowers in this case
@@AveragePootis Yes, we're talking about push mowers, but I'm also talking about product life cycles. Batteries can be replaced... until they can't. When the mfr stops making that proprietary battery pack after 5 yrs, the mower has reached end-of-life.
@@gearhead366 fair, but many companies like Ryobi, Dewalt etc. Would probs make them with universal batteries, that can be had for years to come, or atleast made to work with an adapter
@@AveragePootis So far, that hasn't happened. All the battery equipment use proprietary battery packs. If I buy something from Greenworks, I have bought into their ecosystem, and need to stay within that ecosystem to maximize my investment in batteries. When I buy a Toro with a gas engine, I can still use the energy source with my equipment from Husqvarna, Cub Cadet, Echo, Stihl, etc. When battery packs get standardized, that will go a long way toward getting me to use them.
Self propelled is essential. Push mowers can work, but propelled is not that much more. I’m hanging on to my Honda until I’m forced out of it. Electrics need common batteries, proven reliability, and consumer features, not government mandated features.
me too, although I'm considering get one for the channel.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE interesting. Maybe talk with Home Depot/Lowe’s or with a distributor to see if they can hook you up with a demonstrator to try out? Maybe compare some brands if they let you?
Aluminum deck super recycle toro is better than any honda. Real bearings in the wheels. Actual grease zerks and better cut quality than honda
yes I agree
Nice video but NOTHING about fixing the self-propel. Just anal retentive cleaning.
sorry it wasn't what you were looking for. hope you find what it is that you're searching for and fix your mowers self propel.