World of Warships - Of Secondary Importance
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- čas přidán 3. 01. 2019
- In which something happens to Jdawgmasta that I've never seen before in literally thousands of matches either watched or played. And a whole bunch of things that you see every single time, too, because some shit never changes.
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Oh, it's just a German Battleship. Its main guns can't hit me! I can show as much broadside as I want!
Wait... where'd my healthbar go?
I think Deadpool just grabbed the health bar and beat him over the head with it
Kinda like the Bismarck that I caught looking the other way 8km away from my Arizona a few weeks ago. He went down after 7 citadel hits from full health. Full broadside of 12 14in guns into him. Ever seen a guy go postal in chat I did that day. No longer have the replay. Computer smoked the hard drive.
@@ERAUsnow It's not hard when your shells are still going almost full speed and hitting at 90 degrees. The USA's AP from their 14 inch guns are decent at longer range. Close in they're better than the German 15s why they move faster and weigh just 200kg less. However their moving 100ms faster. The USA's 14 inch gun was designed to go thru the armor of the Japanese Fuso and Nagami class battleships.
@@haroldbenton979 Uhm.. Dude... I think your shells drop enough or something to slip under the citadel because YAMATO SHELLS cannot punch trough the turtleback of a Bismarck at 8 km... Ive citadelled GK's and republiques in a Bismarck but thats not because i punch trough the turtleback, its because i slip shells under or just trough the cheek so it sticks in between the turtleback and citadel. I refuse to believe you shot at the belt armor and punched trough the heavily angled turtleback. Full penetrations is the max you would get.
@@spinekingjrgensen5779 i can get 2 shells max slip...but, 7?! did he waste all his life's luck with that shot?
I am a simple man. I see a secondary speced Kurfurst, I watch it
@SmashStomp Inc a assachusetts is just a Bismarks american cousin :D
Without any protection
@SmashStomp Inc :: Massachusetts, are ok in firepower, but they lack the Iron Armor, i know cuz i have the Black Massachusetts B and only reason i grab it cuz the price was right, and i am a beginner, and the grind is long too long to get i good decent ship...So dont let them seasoned vets get you down, when they say " basic wallet warrior"...if you have the money enjoy ur play....cuz none got there tier 9's and 10's in a couple months.
Kurfurst is Not a Word...
@@friedwaldderlebendige8494you’re not a word
I love my Großer Kurfürst, especially when Wargaming give me a mission to get 500 secondary hits and I think to myself two battles max :)
That's what you get when you bolt two cruisers to the sides of your battleship. 😻😸😸
@@1stPCFerret I needed three battles :Ü First 359 hits, next 140..........so I got mad, fired up some Eurobeats and got a 467 secondary hits game to get that last fuckin one...enemy team had 5 destroyers and 4 cruisers each, they all wandered too close to my ship so my gunners had a field day.
However I mostly finish people off with my main guns (as is quite normal) and only ever managed 2 kills with secondaries in a single game tops.
alsace full secondary 710~ hits in 2 games :D
thanks to 2 nurnberg on the each side of the ship
czcams.com/video/ZlKlglnR9Ms/video.html This is Yuro's tribute to GK, I was in absolute heaven watching it... highly recommended.
If he survived to finish off that Minotaur I think I would’ve ruined my pants
When I sail my own fully secondary specced Kurfurst, I feel like I have an extra cruiser strapped to each side.
If only my Georgia had 6 more guns 😭.... I have the speed of a destroyer, 18-in guns, and 20 secondaries with 11.3 range that reload every 3.4 seconds.
I love the German BB... See why.. I do...
The Germans BB are NOT for the Campers..
I feel like that is the gimmick of most german things like their dds actually make it obvious though
This was my main in Missouri, being on the front line spanked by Yamatos when GKs were staying 20 km behind me doing nothing.
So true, a true brawler ship line.
Yeah I love a good scrap in my Bismarck, I just dont play the FDG its awful
Too bad that german BB players suck. Everytime I see a Bismarck player, I know he will just press W, go into the middle of the map, die and then complain about the team.
Not even a week into 2019 and I have been given two hilarious WoWs videos already. Had to wipe the coffee off the screen twice, laughed my ass off twice. And again, I don't play WoT nor WoWs (the latter at least sometimes), but this is why i subbed Jingles. To me, there is nothing more entertaining on TV nor on youtube. The selection of gameplays combined with the hilarious commentary makes this all worth while.
Ooooh that´s hot! (The best i´ve seen is 4 close quarters in a Bismark with them getting a Kraken)
Thats reeeal hot!
Very solid. My personal best is 3, also in Bismarck.
This is the first game I have seen of 5 close quarters and it was with an Amagi
czcams.com/video/3Qa1RrAC0JI/video.html
In CBT my *HMS Warspite* got the following tally: "Target Hits x 3; Ships Sunk x 3" and nothing else. Incidentally, that battle was when I understood how maneuverable the Warspite is.
5 out of 7 kills done with close quarters in the Gneisenau, replay was sent to Jingles, but since he mentioned he never saw 5 CQE kills before I guess he hasn´t seen the e-mail
13:00
So long and thanks for all the fish.
So sad that it should come to this.
We tried to warn you all but, oh dear!
You may not share our intellect.
Which might explain your disrespect.
For all the broadside that you chose to sho-ow!
So long, so long - and thanks,
for all the damage!
A hitchhikers guide to the game
So long, so long - and thanks,
for all the ~~damage!~~ crits!
If I had just one last wish
I would like some tasty citadels
If we could but change one thing I would adjust my speed
As a fellow Kurfurst driver, I tip my hat to you JDog, that's one *hell* of an impressive match.
Ahem: Actually Jingles, the Izumo burns just as much as it used to. It doesn't MELT under HE spam, due to the increase in deck armor... Jingles? Jingles?! Please, no, I'm so sorry, I take it back, please, not the fa-
to the salt mines with ye
TRIPLE 72 HOUR SHIFT FOR YOU!
Doodledibob Mb That's a paddling
This is the service of information, security and counter intelligence of the salt mines, would you please accompany us sir?
*muffled angry tears of unicums who run survivability build*
You sacrifice stealth for it. I'd say an 18 point captain
I'd say his build is
Preventative Maintenance
Adrenaline Rush
Basic Fireing Training
Advanced Fireing Training, Manual Control of Secondary Guns and IFHE.
@@achimhanischdorfer3403 oof, i would never run a secondary build that meme worthy
I would at least keep Basics of Survivability (over BFT). Sacrificing all of your survivability for secondaries just kinda makes you HE spam cruiser food.
@@britmachine722 On the other hand, it's pretty much that kind of build that makes Kurfürst the great brawler it can be. I'm not sure if it's the absolute strongest build, but it's damn much fun. I can always take out my Yamato for tanking.
You CAN leave out IFHE on the Kurfürst. The secondaries have enough caliber and the German HE penetration rule, so MOST secondary hits will penetrate the target even without IFHE. In addition, you'll have a better fire chance as well. For a brawling build Fire Prevention can be a better choice, Concealment Expert not so much.
@@britmachine722
IFHE Kurfürst gives the secondaries enough HE penetration to deal direct damage to battleships and cruisers.
THAT IS HUGE.
But as you said, one sacrifices a lot of points. And for sure this build is NOT for clan battles.
What Britt machine says is true... IFHE is kinda optional... German Guns firing HE get caliber/4 for pen, not the caliber/6 of other nations
The GK is my favorite boat in the game. I play it every day, even if I'm only playing 2-3 games. It is an absolute monster, and so many people try to dump on it because "lol German meme dispersion." Those people tend to forget that you don't need to fire that far with the main battery. Not to mention, by being in close, not only are you slugging the enemy with main guns and spraying secondary damage all over... you are also a prime target for the enemy. If you use your huge HP pool and movement/angling well, you can tank like an absolute boss for your team. I play likely the exact same build with Adrenaline Rush - the ship does its best work after rolling in, taking a beating, and then dipping out for a bit. If they don't take you down right away, they will pay dearly.
Remember, though: Secondaries. Are. Secondary. Don't put yourself in a bad position just because you want to use them.
Ducks don't laugh at shotguns either...Hit's small maneuverable targets much more reliable than a rifle.
About the Friedrich der Große, apparently there is a resource in the game called 'Free xp', which can be used to skip ships you don't want to grind through
Lol, I played 5 games in it then drew exp'd my way out of it.
I grinded through it, it was hell. If you can skip that pile of shit of a battleship do it
Didn't it get buffed with the last patch?
@@adadianian it did get buffed indeed, but that Ship is just still plain awful to play. The Guns seem like the pinnacle of German Drunk Shooting Skills, you wouldnt even hit a goddamn barn door from 5 Metres away. Concealment as with the GK is just a Joke so once youre able to get into a good fighting position youre mainly wittled down by HE Spam or Super Structure AP Volleys.
It just has no Fun Component to it, the GK gets mostly focussed out aswell but atleast im having fun playing it and annoying the hell out of People with the 11.6km Secondarys
Then again the amount of FXP needed to skip a Tier 9 is pretty immense for most players.
That North Carolina was NUDE!
Nude is so lewd, here in 'merica we call it Nekkid ( ok maybe just here in Texas)
That’s so lewd.
@@markpeterson1819 naked?
Fredrich the Great has been recently buffed you know, Jingles?
I kept it since it was the first battleship that gave me more than 200 k dmg with a good game featuring next to 600 hits with secondaries.
About Kurfurst my best secondaries result is four kills out of nine thanks to a cyclone out of 230 k ish damage.
Nice. And awesome seeing you on Maxwell's WoWS's stream tonight for the regular Friday night Beers and Boats stream.
I didn't get a Kraken, but a while back I did get a four close-quarter kill game in a Mikasa. Best battleship in the game, that!
Now watching that was a real lesson. thanks to both of you for this video.
I have one single kill with the Yubari secondary battery to my name.
:D
I'm very proud.
The Kurfürst is the second most played BB of them all on EU right after the Yamato. It even beats the Montana by Battles played, even though the Montana was in the game long before the Kurfürst.
It's probably the weakest T10 BB too, in spite of what Jingles would be implying here.
@@Snagabott you must be new
@@Snagabott ahahahahha wtf???0 idea about the game freaking 0!!!!
@@Chaosdemon4444 Not so much. I have 700 games in GK, I know what I'm talking about. It's the the most forgiving (and for that reason also sometimes the most fun) of the T10 BBs, but the tankiness comes at the cost of having poor guns. The chief maladies are
1) Terrible turret angles
2) Short range
3) German (ie. worst in game) dispersion profile....... (which, ironically, has it's only redeeming feature when shooting broadsides at extreme range. Which you then ofc can't reach).
The secondaries are only there to make up for the trollish German dispersion. Just go into the training room and look at how much deadlier the Montana's main guns are at
@@Snagabott you're... full of shit.
If I can pull 154k damage out of my ass playing half-braindead, in the first game I played in the ship, it's obviously not a bad ship, quite the opposite really. For example, if you took a team of 12 AI GKs and a team of 12 AI yamatos, the GKs would win. Literally every time. It's been tested.
Love it. Thank you to all the players. Thanks Jingles
I've ran this setup or very close to it for the past 2 years on my kurfurst, it's a very strong ship in the right hands.
Happy New Year Master............good to have you back.
As a HUGE fan of German secondaries, I absolutely LOVED this video Jingles! Thank you for putting this out there!
Great vid, thanks Jdawg and Jingles. Well back to the Prinz Eitel Freidrich directives grind
Been grinding out cruiser lines today... That Cleveland double cit makes me wince now.
That was bloody inspired use of a secondary build. Really big congrats to Jdogmaster!
13:00 "It was at this moment, he knew he had fucked up
14:06 "We are the champions, my friend..."
13:40
Paddlin Jingles needs to be part of your special captain (also, he should say enemy cruiser sunk!)
Thanks for this video Jingles. I learnt a lot
Whoever came up with that paddling doodle, awesome work! haha
Many thanks for the modstation link.
Eyyy i loved the F the great. Its an upscaled bismarck with more HP and a longer hydro. I had no issue with it.
THIS. Exactly. Its bismarck with 20k more hp, thicker armor, longer armor belt, bigger guns, better hydro, better heal (as heal scales by hp%), and better AA. Why is it so horrible to some people?
@@emmanuelmedina2740 the dispersion has improved, it was really really horrible 1.5years ago
@@brianluk2006 I got her years ago. Haven't tried her with the improved dispersion
The fat freddy is actually pretty good now, more like a proto-kurfurst than a bloated, arthritic Bismarck. Oddly enough, the Kurfurst can also be very effective at extreme range. After a quick show of hands, it was revealed in my clan that the longest dev strikes they have got have all been in the Kurfurst.
Get the Kurfurst Jingles, it's probably the most fun ship in the game.
I think Gneisenau video by jingles had 5 close quarter kills but certainly not such damage numbers...
Positioning of battleship was such key factor in staying alive
Mino comes out, gives Broadside... Good old classic *OOF*
Respecced my captain on the GK and had a go with an all out secondaries build and had a blast! Didnt get a match as good as above but got 3 kills and 205k dmg. :)
i was about to start playing kancolle to try and clear the event and then u uploaded my overlord.. guess i shall watch this first XD
I've done this once with the Repub but I don't use manual secondarys so my guns were popping off on both sides and catching peeps by surprise.
holy jesus, that was amazing :D his last words "lol i'm out" XDDD
One of the best examples of playing to the strengths of a ship I've ever seen.
A great day. A New jingles video! YAY!!!
The GKF is such a lovely ship and more than worth the struggle going through the Fat Fred.
Luck and skills combined = an epic battle...thnx for sharing!
Some of us respect the Massachsetts secondary, as we should, or any of the few top secondary ships ,still: Jdawgmasta has built themselves a beast.
I just unlocked the Kurfurst. I love it. I have always been a fan of german bb secondary. with IFHE I have gotten cits against dd and cruisers with my secondary guns its a trip this was my first ever tier X ship I unlocked. Almost got the mino as well
That was a good one. Though it certainly helps the enemy kept bending over for a paddling. D.
THIS VIDEO MADE ME UPDATE AND PLAY AGAIN.
That cleveland on the enemy team reminds me of all the Derpitz players on WoWSL
Live in the USA so days I have off of work, I can wake up and watch a Jingles episode, must've worked in the salt mines for years without remembering it in order to deserve this
You are the David Attenborough of World of Warships. Bravo!
Got my second Kraken ever with my Massachusetts. 3 of the 5 were Close quarters
Earl the Viking really like this long boat
I wish I had that kind of matchmaking with my secondary build Kurfürst
This replay was epic! Love the secondary action but also MONSTROUS damage from the main batteries! After all that's why people keep grinding away with battleships, for the rare game like this when you make all the right decisions and the enemy make all the wrong decisions it all becomes worth it.
Wows legends Otto Cilliax players been doing this with Bismarck for years, keep up jingles!
Yaaayy fressshh video!! Awesome!!
Crazy games like that is what makes me keep going back to WoWS...all of the amazing "did that just happen" moments you get in that game, both amazing, and super face-palm.
Ha! When you asked how much damage his secondaries did I guessed 130k. With the fires I'm only 6k off. That's closer than those 11km secondary kills.
Thanks for doing this video.
well that was one of the best replays you ever featured...
This just made my day. Laughing so hard 😂😂 Jingles here I come... Ohhh wait.....
Due to the improved AP pen angles of the des Moines, he could actually deal a ton of damage with AP, though penetrating the belt isn't that easy
oh Jingles you just make me want to play my Kurfurst again XD
I love doing that with tirpitz, + bonus with 6km torps :P
2022, just watched another 5 secondary kill game by jingles.
Actually Jingles, that Jean Pierre you mentioned wasn't a Jean Pierre, it was an Alsace..... ..jingles?
To quote stupid yet hilarious game voicelines, "You are ded. Not big souprize."
It's because it's French.
@@somebody700 Whoops, seems like i'm the idiot, meant it to be a joke soooooooooooooo
This is seriously the single most amazing World of Warships game I have EVER seen played!
Man, that is a game... Thanks for sharing
And now, because of Jingles, next 1000 games, we'll all see 100% GKF AA build
As someone that uses cruisers a lot I felt those 9:14 Cleveland citadels
"That's a lotta damage!"
Awesome play.... that Montana 🤣
Brilliant game, and never underestimate the secondaries!!
2 bloody ship game videos in 2 days, praise our gnome overlord!
The funny thing is in the movie Battleship, Missouri only uses main batteries
As some that has been playing since the beta test I have never seen something that impressive
This was beautiful.
The tier 9 German BB actually us really fun, now that it's buffed. The secondary batteries are also just as insane.
I remember one game where I had to afk at the start of a battle so I auto pilot my ship to the middle of a cap. When I came back I had gotten 40k damage and a capture and placed 5th on the team
German BB guns are very precise. Got 3 citadells on a DeMoin in my Bismarck yesterday. At 17km range. This guy really pissed the RNG God off.
What a replay, what a beast of a ship!
Jingles I think my favorite thing about you is that you are humble. You make fun of everyone to include yourself which I find hilarious.
Aaaaand after the Leander we're back to top-tier ownage
"heal"😂 i love noobs giving the guy who hardcarry them advise.
I actually had a similar game in the Yamato. I had played around with a secondary build and forgot about it so both I and the two DD's that tried to rush me down got a surprise... They went BOOM and we won and I got first place.
In one of my very first battles in Bismarck, I got a kraken with four of them coming from Close Quarters Expert. Nowhere near that kind of damage of course, but still hilarious. I love the German secondary builds, but have to admit, it seems much more consistent with the Massachusetts. If you love secondaries on your ship, that would be the primary choice imho
I have the Frederick the great now, only tier nine battleship. It’s OK but definitely not very good. Glad to know I’m not the only one that thought that and it is going to get better.
Holy freaking cow! Awesome game~♥
Best if ever seen was a secondary kill on a Freidrich der Grosse with my Haida - one secondary hit and the kill was me :)
Well, i got an doublestrike kill with secondaries. But thats unbelievable. Well played!
@@somebody700 I wont say unmachtched, every Ship has pros and cons. With the right angle, use of torpedos, and the secondaries combined with 380mm guns Tirpitz is an horrible enemy.
I sank a Freddie that tried to ram with my Tirptorps. It's a fun boat to play and can be mean under the right conditions
@@r3dgr4v3 True.
Amazing replay. That ships a tank.
Thanks Jingles I really enjoyed that I love my KKF, It was the best kept secret in WoW's.... I say waaas.
Amazing!
How was he able to switch secondary battery targets so quickly like that? In my gkurfurst control clicking on them is very difficult with the crappy wows interface while in game.
Poor Tier VIII. His first three targets are ALL tier VIII Amagi, Kagero, North Carolina. War Gaming please fix mm for tier VIII. Oh and just noticed the Cleveland too ;)
This is why I'm looking forward to unlocking the Bismarck!
Bismarck is not nearly as good as the GK, I have the Bismarck with secondaries but you can only really use them if you face same tier or below, against T10s you'll have to stay back anyway unless you want to die and be useless to your team.
@@marcusengdahl6062 Thanks for the advice. It's OK, I have to go through the Bismarck to reach GK, anyway!
T8 is gonna suck hard because of the constant uptiering where there is one other T8 and the rest are T10s, maybe a sprinkle of 9's. Push through if you can, I gave up at T8 with the German BBs only because the current Meta does not suite them at all with noone pushing with you BB wise and then the inaccuracy and low caliber off their guns. T7 Gneisenau is by far my most played ship/ Tier, hell even T5 I have fun with certain ships. Love brawling, but it just doesn't happen at T10 sadly until the last 8 minutes or so, lots of gimmicks and smoke and mountain hiding with HE slinging, just so damn boring.
Not trying to discourage you btw, just be prepared for the road ahead!
@@hailitalia86 Thanks for the tips, i shall remember them!
@@TheRCScotsman Sadly I didn't give many tips haha. I do still play my Bismark and Tirpitz here and there though. With these 2 ships islands are you friend and coupled with the relatively good speed of them you can put yourself into favorable positions at times.
When you have to run they are good kiters as well if you are secondary spec'd and have the rudder shift upgrade on. With that speed you can also chase down and punish people who get isolated from their fleets, even DD's sometimes if they end up sitting in their smoke, even better if you aren't detected by their teammates.
What else, umm, I've eaten a good amount of citadels at range from the T9 and T10 guns so you wont be invulnerable to citadels at medium-long to long range. Close up keep angled as much as possible, you'll still eat alot of normal penetration damage, but at least that is repairable if your able to win the fight or safely disengage.
Some basic stuff, but figured I'd try to help, instead of scare ya away haha. I'm on the NA server if you wanna play sometime as well.
This is my dream gameplay. Sadly we don't get 10k secondary range on Legends :(
Your best video to date..BTW how do I get the wows mod pack installed?