Every Hero Explained in 7 Minutes

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Komentáře • 375

  • @vizzyven
    @vizzyven  Před 24 dny +87

    Omg 10k views, thanks a ton for the support!! This is the most I've ever gotten on any video before!
    Working to get that villain video out soon! (And deciding on something better than Cooperation vs Willingness, maybe Glory vs. Fate?)

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Před 20 dny

      Overly Sarcastic Productions looked at behaviour and motivation in her video on heroes and anti-heroes

    • @forestgrumpy119
      @forestgrumpy119 Před 20 dny +1

      cou,d you do one for villains?

    • @VoltCicero
      @VoltCicero Před 16 dny +1

      you missed the savor hero in my thoughts it should be said

    • @matthewrooke819
      @matthewrooke819 Před 10 dny

      Only if you recorded it.

  • @BrightyLikeThat
    @BrightyLikeThat Před 28 dny +487

    An example of a classical hero I use is Johnathan Joestar from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure. He works in a team, is always a gentleman, treats his girlfriend with respect, and even shows compassion for the villain (Dio), even while he’s dying.

    • @Ultras_450
      @Ultras_450 Před 27 dny +27

      That's why he is the best JOJO

    • @ainakbasu8398
      @ainakbasu8398 Před 26 dny +12

      Bro I’m watching jojo rn

    • @sagemaster1357
      @sagemaster1357 Před 24 dny +12

      And Tanjiro from Demon Slayer

    • @Robyamdam
      @Robyamdam Před 24 dny +30

      Jonathan does not get enough respect for anchoring the Jojo franchise

    • @johnnywick2460
      @johnnywick2460 Před 21 dnem +10

      that's why jonathan is the heart of the franchise, behind every ulterior motive and goal, there is always that pure, strong and resonating force of good

  • @voltmax15
    @voltmax15 Před 9 dny +78

    gordon freeman literally has a quote about being a everyman. "the right man in the wrong place can be all the difference in the world." he never speaks, so anybody can be in that situation.

    • @Obscurite1221
      @Obscurite1221 Před 5 dny +1

      Isn't that a G-man quote?

    • @DeathnoteBB
      @DeathnoteBB Před 5 dny +2

      Anybody who is a PhD holder in quantum physics or whatever he did

    • @jokiejook8659
      @jokiejook8659 Před 3 dny +2

      @@DeathnoteBB Anybody with a PhD in theoretical physics and can bhop.

  • @acedemon2939
    @acedemon2939 Před 12 dny +87

    6:50 "Or maybe you like a hero that doesn't mind breaking a few bones to make a point."
    Me: "theirs or others. Looking at you deku."

  • @user-zi1vu5hc3v
    @user-zi1vu5hc3v Před 13 dny +70

    I have to say that anti heroes are one of the best options for a side character that was really close to the main character.

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 13 dny +14

      It's the characters you never expect

    • @abalphas0604
      @abalphas0604 Před 9 dny +6

      well the audience likes a anti hero more than the actual hero, so maybe doing a story where the anti hero is a side character thats close to the protagonist might not be a good idea cause then he'll take the spotlight

  • @Dinoman-mo7mt
    @Dinoman-mo7mt Před 24 dny +148

    Oddly enough Green Lantern who is powered by his will is quite often on the reluctant side due to him fighting himself after Parallax, while not a one to one and skipping over his fear and being possed by Parallax having him take a yellow ring instead, Injustice 2 does an incredible job showing this when he fights Atrocious

  • @raspberryflash583
    @raspberryflash583 Před 29 dny +191

    Another catalyst hero is Gandalf

  • @_d.ot.t_
    @_d.ot.t_ Před 16 dny +89

    not mentioning Spiderman in the Everyman is a crime because that is literallly what the entire character is about

    • @kennethjohnson7517
      @kennethjohnson7517 Před 14 dny +3

      John McClane should be a Everyman right?

    • @Coralocka
      @Coralocka Před 10 dny +1

      Except andrew Garfield's lol

    • @the_real_boogeyman
      @the_real_boogeyman Před 7 dny +1

      It depends on which Spider Man you're talking about. Miles Morales and Tom Holland's Peter Parker are definitely reluctant heroes, but older Spider Men can be considered to be in the Everyman genre

    • @thiagogarcia3979
      @thiagogarcia3979 Před 6 dny +1

      Emet not in everyman is a crime

    • @pisaschitt787
      @pisaschitt787 Před 6 dny +1

      With what's currently going on in Spider-Man comics, I don't wanna relate to him at all, especially with the Paul situatjon

  • @fortunewilliam255
    @fortunewilliam255 Před 20 dny +27

    Uncle Iroh is a catalyst

  • @peytonck5609
    @peytonck5609 Před 17 dny +50

    I'm disappointed Master Oogway wasn't the first example for catalyst

    • @CT-1975
      @CT-1975 Před 10 dny +2

      I would have put
      Gandalf
      Obi wan
      Dumbledore
      Oogway is pretty far away from my first thought on this

  • @imfellz
    @imfellz Před 15 dny +55

    I like how *Satoru Gojo* from *Jujutsu Kaisen* can fall on opposite ends of the spectrum. He fits into "Superhero" he is a God among us, a being of unparalleled strength and absurd power that makes him be seen only as a weapon to be used against curses and enemys, and never a person, he is seen only as *"The Strongest"* and not like "Satoru Gojo" himself.
    But, at the same time, he is a "Tragic Hero", because the strength granted by being a "Superhero" made his person, his development, everything that surrounds him, tragic. It's as if, as a *Jujutsu Sorcerer*, as *"The Strongest"* he is a Superhero, and as a person, as *Satoru Gojo*, he is a tragic hero.
    It's beautiful to appreciate that in the character.

    • @CT-1975
      @CT-1975 Před 10 dny

      Luke skywalker is that but better since it isn't anime

    • @crocoboi7936
      @crocoboi7936 Před 10 dny +5

      @@CT-1975bro what’s wrong with anime

    • @CT-1975
      @CT-1975 Před 10 dny

      ​@@crocoboi7936 don't even start

    • @crocoboi7936
      @crocoboi7936 Před 10 dny +3

      @@CT-1975 saying all anime is bad is like saying all cartoons suck. That is way too generalized

    • @Local69
      @Local69 Před 10 dny +1

      He is a god AMONG US(help the brainrot got me)

  • @pendragon0905
    @pendragon0905 Před 11 dny +14

    The kind of hero I'm thinking about writing is kind of a fusion of Anti and Classical, of those two extremes. He values his friends, family, and lover, sometimes even more than his own life: That being said, he's an assassin and a manipulator who would *almost* stop at nothing to kill his enemies (the only people who could convince him to spare his enemies would be his friends, family, and future wife, but even this isn't totally a guarantee).
    He's kind of like a cat: Loyal to the house but still got a naughty mind of his own 🐱

  • @spikerobot4113
    @spikerobot4113 Před 25 dny +42

    The heroes I resonated with were the romantic hero and the anti hero. Other examples of an actual anti hero (not on occasion) would be The Punisher, and The Man with No Name.

    • @ShadowHunter24681
      @ShadowHunter24681 Před 15 dny +1

      I don’t think frank can be categorised as any type of hero as he even sees himself as a monster who when complete their goals should be put down.

    • @spikerobot4113
      @spikerobot4113 Před 15 dny +1

      @@ShadowHunter24681 The guy said in the video himself anti heroes give up on being good because they feel they don't get rewarded for being good but in there own way they make the world better. They just may or may not realize it yet.

    • @ShadowHunter24681
      @ShadowHunter24681 Před 15 dny

      @@spikerobot4113 while I understand what you’re getting at, I’m saying that someone like red hood fits the anti hero role better than frank since one focuses on doing the right thing even if it means killing the criminals to control the crime rate while the other just kills and kills and keep on killing even if it means that he’s tarnishing another hero’s name or the one he’s killing decided to turn their life around to be better than a random villain before even coming across him.

  • @Seno_was_taken
    @Seno_was_taken Před 23 dny +12

    The classical is basically the dragonborn

  • @TheHirohikoAraki
    @TheHirohikoAraki Před 6 dny +3

    It is a shame that *Guts (Berserk)* wasn’t mentioned in this spectrum because I kinda view him as an antihero in his current state of the series. Some say he’s reluctant, everyman, or a tragic hero in his life.

  • @vladydaddy9116
    @vladydaddy9116 Před 23 dny +13

    An anti hero can really be someone wronged by the villians first. A kid can grow up thinking it's villians vs villians until he inadvertently creates a space the heroes like.

  • @XX-sp3tt
    @XX-sp3tt Před 3 dny +1

    Superman is forced again and again in universe to remind people that being morally upright does not equal uninteresting.

  • @warrenbradford2597
    @warrenbradford2597 Před 13 dny +3

    This is a good video to learn other types of heroes. Some of the types, such as the epic and romantic, should have their own TV tropes page dedicated to them.

  • @diino8081
    @diino8081 Před 21 dnem +3

    this video definitely helped me figure out what i've been doing with one of the characters i'm writing about. i had an idea but this definitely helped me solidify it
    thank you!

  • @Just-_-450
    @Just-_-450 Před 29 dny +15

    I thought that this was a very interesting video, but one thing in particular that bugged me was the spectrums of willingness and cooperation. I don't think that a hero type (in the way that you've outlined them) has anything to do with either of those categories. A superhero can be willing just as a tragic hero can be uncooperative. Otherwise, this was an excellent video from a disproportionately small channel. Keep up the good work.

    • @tommygun7697
      @tommygun7697 Před 29 dny +2

      i thought hed put a superhero as a filter like you can have a tragic superhero or a classic superhero or a reluctant superhero. he also contradicted himself by putting invincible a clear super hero into reluctant hero

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 29 dny +5

      @Just-_-450 Thanks for the comment! You make a fair point! I was on the fence on how I wanted to organize the categories until I went with the choices I made. I may want to revisit this and retool the axiis in the future. It's not exactly where it should be.
      Realistically, most characters aren't just in one singular category as it's less than 9 distinct sections and more a bunch of color pallets a character pulls from, but that may require a different type of chart.

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 29 dny +4

      @tommygun7697 I think that superhero would be an interesting category separation. Maybe I'll consider adding it when I come back to this one.
      I do think, speaking as someone who's only watched Invincible, that it really seems like Mark is fighting himself most of the time. Or getting himself beaten to a pulp because he refuses to act. If we were to speak on specifics, he'd sit on the line between both Reluctant and Super for me personally, but I get what you mean that placing him in Superhero makes sense as well.

  • @shadowrayhaan4051
    @shadowrayhaan4051 Před 26 dny +11

    Very interesting video. I find myself liking the bottom grid type of heroes instead of the higher ones because they are more relatable with human struggles and more interesting to dive in. Make one about villain 😮

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Před 20 dny +2

      I don’t find the highest grid heroes to lack human struggle. Superman (in The Justice League cartoon) is a superhero and he fears the damage he can wreak by not knowing his own strength. Gilgamesh fears death and Achilles wants to avenge his friend Patroclus (Gilgamesh and Achilles are both epic heroes.)

  • @WindWerehog
    @WindWerehog Před 11 dny +2

    before the types of heroes are shown, Kirby is on the middle, leaning towards the top left. most of the time he won't budge until the food is stolen or his peace is interrupted. whenever he does do something, he goes all the way through to the end sometimes going out of the way to help more people (or grab some food), be it alone or with friends.

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 10 dny

      The hero we should all aspire to be

  • @TheCrownWearer
    @TheCrownWearer Před 5 dny +1

    I think that you could make a combination to a lot of the hero stereotypes like a classical anti hero a person that is blessed by the heavens with strength but isn’t really morally set in their actions or like a a romantically epic a person that rejects the gods ideals that they come from to make the world better

  • @tbuckley2031
    @tbuckley2031 Před 4 dny +1

    Godbless the Hero Spectrum 🙏🏾 it’s hard to do labels in a morally gray story so THANK YOU!

  • @ThatOneKnowItAll-hx3nx
    @ThatOneKnowItAll-hx3nx Před 21 dnem +6

    Question: Would a hero character that is either paid to do heroic actions or pushed by other hero characters (Like a friend or) fall into Anti-Hero? Or would it be another category?

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 20 dny +6

      I think it really depends.
      As long as they're not extorting the public to help them, I don't think that makes them less of a superhero. Though, it might make them less of a morally pure hero, which this graph doesn't measure.

  • @PlantWasTaken
    @PlantWasTaken Před 29 dny +13

    havent seen the channel before but this video is really well made 560th subscriber 🙏

  • @JammesJack-td6gv
    @JammesJack-td6gv Před 28 dny +13

    Taylor from worm is my fav tragic hero

    • @Yollka836
      @Yollka836 Před 10 dny

      She's a definition of "everything for the greater good"

    • @JammesJack-td6gv
      @JammesJack-td6gv Před 10 dny

      @@Yollka836 and i love and hate her for that

    • @acidaspida8885
      @acidaspida8885 Před 9 dny

      I saw most of her traits in Anti Hero, but yeah shes a Tragic Hero for sure

  • @strongman5243
    @strongman5243 Před 25 dny +5

    My favorites will always be superheros

  • @Alphataa
    @Alphataa Před 6 dny +2

    When i think about romantic heroes the first one to pop up in my mind is professor X

  • @pokeinator7834
    @pokeinator7834 Před 28 dny +7

    This is underrated,do more spectrum stuff if you can,seems like a fun niche to explore

    • @sonicfanboy3375
      @sonicfanboy3375 Před 28 dny +1

      I kinda want to see a video explaining villain types

  • @AstroVanilla
    @AstroVanilla Před 13 dny +3

    You're super underrated, your editing is great and your topic choices are interesting enough to keep my ADHD brain interested. Keep it up!

  • @lorekeeper685
    @lorekeeper685 Před 6 dny +2

    There is also what I like to call "Old hero"
    Where being a hero was just killing the enemies

    • @MelvinFredriksson-yp5ne
      @MelvinFredriksson-yp5ne Před 3 dny

      It goes in the antihero category. Like deadpool etc.

    • @lorekeeper685
      @lorekeeper685 Před 3 dny

      @@MelvinFredriksson-yp5ne but dead pool still saves people
      I forget his name the guy from the bible who kills a lot that was debated hero or not

  • @lunar64-io7wz
    @lunar64-io7wz Před 14 dny +3

    this video and the villain one are really helpful for dnd!

  • @austinharris9290
    @austinharris9290 Před 17 dny +6

    The epic super and anti heroes are my favorite types 😎😎😎💪🦸🏼‍♂️⚡️⭐️🥇⚔️🛡

  • @beawitcheries
    @beawitcheries Před 29 dny +9

    saw the notification and immediately clicked, great video!

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 29 dny

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed :)

  • @alleinad_
    @alleinad_ Před 12 dny +1

    Such an incredible and underrated video and channel ❤❤❤

  • @bhavishyjain7299
    @bhavishyjain7299 Před 21 dnem +1

    Great video man.... I am writing a story and this helped me to visualise my different characters .... And btw I am your 781st subscriber.... Can you make a video on villains too

  • @OrientalBales
    @OrientalBales Před 6 dny +2

    MVC2 intro. Instant like

  • @chiefcoiler
    @chiefcoiler Před 6 dny +1

    During the entire description of the tragic hero, I was thinking of Rorschach. "Never compromise, not even in the face of Armageddon."

  • @juliorodriguezfernandezdel2075

    I was so happy when you said Venom, I was really waiting fot it and I GOT IT :)

  • @arandomweirdanimator5664
    @arandomweirdanimator5664 Před 27 dny +13

    as someone who wants to improve writing this is all very good to know, w video.

  • @uncroppedsoop
    @uncroppedsoop Před 13 dny +2

    I was thinking about one of my own characters, and I'm honestly kind of confused as to where he would land here. in terms of morality and behaviour he's definitely an anti-hero, having a bit of a sadistic streak kept in check by his morals directing it at irredeemable villains. but by this chart he's also completely proactive and willing to lead the fight against the main antagonist alongside a good number of other characters, putting him at classical hero

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 13 dny

      Every hero can be in multiple categories, but it sounds like the sadism makes him a bit more of an antihero.

  • @Spyr0Gaming
    @Spyr0Gaming Před 28 dny +6

    Question: where would you put Percy Jackson on this chart?

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 27 dny +4

      Good question, I think Percy sits in Classical, but I think he takes a lot from Epic and Romantic. Godhood makes his feats impressive for his age, and Romantic due to his struggle with being a half-blood.

  • @zshah3107
    @zshah3107 Před 6 dny +1

    Actually, I mostly prefer the reluctant heroes, anti-heroes & tragic hero types, yes!

  • @TheBTGguy
    @TheBTGguy Před 28 dny +3

    Yo u just got a new subscriber!

  • @tsctheafkpanda3998
    @tsctheafkpanda3998 Před 7 dny

    4:50 *a set of characters from older books* and Anakin Skywalker

  • @monsterfiz
    @monsterfiz Před 8 dny

    A hero who born a hero but want non hero life or a hero that didn't ask to be a hero always have soft spot in my hearth.
    In every culture including mine, a heroic figure mostly come from someone who willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good of everyone, or someone who is born and educated right to be a great person so that they can be a help for goodness of others, but a hero is still a person, they're still human behind their hero status, what if the hero doesn't want to be a hero in the first place, they just become a hero because that is the role given for them and that is what society want them to do.
    Being a hero is a gift as much as is a curse, and they can't escaped it not without a cost, they're reluctant about it and have a reason for it, and that reason is that people always the one that made the decisions for them, they have no freedom in their life despite being a hero. This would change the reluctant hero into many possible shape of hero in future, and sometime even reshaped them into becoming a villain, because for then, living a hero life is like becoming everyone guard dog with leash made out of steel, and if they manage to break out from it there is always the cost.
    Take metroman from the movie megamind for example, the reason he faking his death is because he craving a freedom in his life after becoming a hero for so long doing the same thing with megamind to the point that he even know megamind personally. With his super speed he could just kill megamind and stop him into getting to his life forever, but he didn't. Because metroman might know that if he kill megamind, there is possibility that there is other villain who will come after him which mean he got no rest from a hero life, that why, he faking his death so that he can finally retired.
    Is not like he doesn't know the cost, he know megamind so well that he knew that if he leave nothing bad will happen and to his surprise megamind even becoming a hero to replace him which give metroman a freedom he always wish for. But, metroman is just one example and there is other hero who is not as lucky as him with some even more tragic than the other.
    I can't remember the characters so lets use classic fantasy rpg instead. At some point in every classic fantasy rpg story you will meet with some character that once a hero but turn into a villain. This hero once is adored and respected by peoples around them, sometime they even worship them and the hero do their best to honor them. But, people asking and demanding too much from the hero, they always put heavy expectations on them and when everything gone wrong they will blame it on the hero. The hero just want to do their role because that is what their life is but people expecting too much and it lead the hero down to the road of darkness and stop being a hero but people still not satisfied so they change call the hero into a villain instead and pick new hero to fight them.
    This is the reason why the reluctant hero have a soft spot in my hearth. Despite being a hero, they still a person nonetheless. They have soul, they have life, but society half of the time doesn't want to see that side of their hero and demanding them to be a proper hero according to their standard, and the hero have no choose except to agree or to rebel against it.

  • @christianwhite8877
    @christianwhite8877 Před 11 dny

    Something I've been thinking about is where would rimuru be on this? He is a catalyst for much of the stuff early in his series. But he also lost some of his humanity and died in the first episode (the series is about his life after being reincarnated). Yet he would kill however many of almost anything required to save people he cares about but is a kind person unless provoked in a hostile way (he even plans to achieve world peace), and he cannonically is fated to die if he doesn't become a demon lord (which he only does in the main timeline) but eventually becomes a god

  • @thebag6921
    @thebag6921 Před 11 dny +2

    all i can think of when i see that intro is
    Audi famam illius.
    Solus in hostes ruit
    et patriam servavit.
    Audi famam illius.
    Cucurrit quaeque tetigit destruens.
    Audi famam illius.
    Audi famam illius.
    Spes omnibus, mihi quoque.
    Terror omnibus, mihi quoque.
    Ille
    iuxta me.
    Ille iuxta me.
    Socii sunt mihi,
    qui olim viri fortes
    rivalesque erant.
    Saeve certando pugnandoque
    splendor crescit.

  • @morrisonscott1139
    @morrisonscott1139 Před 5 dny

    A new type of hero I've been trying to come up with is a superhero with superpowers that are based on the classical hero and anti-hero archetypes.
    His characterization traits range from classical, romantic, to everyman but is always willing to kill his villains should it ever be necessary.
    His name is Carval.

  • @CT-1975
    @CT-1975 Před 10 dny

    Star wars heroes for each type
    Classical: Luke skywalker
    Epic: Revan
    Super: Luke skywalker
    Romantic: Anakin Skywalker
    Everyman: Cal Kestis
    Reluctant: Luke skywalker
    Tragic: Anakin skywalker
    Catalyst: Obi wan Kenobi
    Anti: Meetra Surik
    Sidenote: the fact that Luke skywalker wasn't in the classical category is INSANE he is literally THE classical hero, the description you gave for the classical hero was, bar for bar, Luke skywalker

  • @eMercody
    @eMercody Před 24 dny +3

    I don’t think this chart works all that well, these axis aren’t super reflective of the separations between hero types.

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 Před 20 dny +1

    2:05, I’m not sure I agree with that. Gilgamesh’s quest for immortality in the wake of Enkidu’s death works pretty well for me as does Achilles raging against Hector for killing Patroclus

  • @purpledshadow
    @purpledshadow Před 9 dny

    I like how Deku / Izuku from MHA actually fits both the superhero category of heroes & the romantic category due to his goals not aligning with hero society & his motivations to try to save Shigaraki causing hero society to hopefully change.

  • @enderdrake444
    @enderdrake444 Před 8 dny +1

    Personally, I actually prefer paragons over anti-heroes, but I understand if that is a hot take.

  • @justaguywithafedora54
    @justaguywithafedora54 Před 19 dny +3

    Mario belongs in superhero because hes like the hero of mushroom kingdom

  • @samuelbrock
    @samuelbrock Před 8 dny

    Great video!! Where would you put the Byronic hero? A hero who just doesn't fill the shoes of heroism? Who aren't morally questionable, but just aren't strong, brave, or, well, "heroic"?

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 Před 20 dny

    2:52, and John Carter from Edgar Rice Burroughs books.

  • @Itsjeh03
    @Itsjeh03 Před 6 dny +1

    Kamina is definitely a catalyst!!

  • @lbrett7054
    @lbrett7054 Před 27 dny +1

    Could you do every type of villain next?

  • @Robyamdam
    @Robyamdam Před 24 dny +2

    I'm going to do this but with Pro Wrestlers
    Classical: John Cena/ Cody Rhodes
    Epic: Hulk Hogan
    Superhero: John Cena (on occasion), face Andre the Giant
    Romantic: Stone Cold/CM punk
    Everyman: Dusty Rhodes
    Reluctant: Shawn Michaels(Triple H feud), Ricky steamboat, Kenny Omega
    Tragic: Mankind/Jeff Hardy
    Catalyst: Ric Flair (late career)
    Antihero: The Rock, Eddie Guerrero, Stone Cold (on occasion)

  • @gasmegalodonc
    @gasmegalodonc Před 8 dny

    Herakles is much different from what people think, like as you showed a picture of Disney's Hercules, which is not an accurate representation of him. Herakles was a very tragic hero but through him defying the odds he became a hero and we can relate to him for overcoming his 12 Labour's and apon his death he became a god

  • @Kozladoev
    @Kozladoev Před 16 dny +1

    Also a catalyst hero is most definitely Himmel the Hero fron Sousou no Frieren

  • @shaunlions7398
    @shaunlions7398 Před 21 dnem +1

    This is just a plain good video like wow

  • @wornoutrei
    @wornoutrei Před 12 dny +1

    An example of the tragic hero I had on my mind was Steven from SU, specifically Future. I can't really explain why but he _feels_ similar to the tragic hero.

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 10 dny +1

      His whole arc is from Classical to Tragic tbh

    • @wornoutrei
      @wornoutrei Před 10 dny

      @vizzyven Yeah I can see that.

  • @richardanderson-gj8wr
    @richardanderson-gj8wr Před 27 dny +4

    So would iron man/Tony stark in mcu canon be considered both a catalyst hero and superhero

    • @sagemaster1357
      @sagemaster1357 Před 24 dny

      Same with All Might. He's not dead but he did lose his power and now it's up to deku to take up the mantle and for other pro heroes to step up.

    • @Protosilver97
      @Protosilver97 Před 23 dny

      Well, just as Obi Wan Kenobi, he's clearly hybrid. Obi Wan is only a catalyst in the latter part of his life. In the prequels, he's more of a reluctant type of hero.

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Před 20 dny

      I think so.

  • @SunnyCherry79
    @SunnyCherry79 Před 6 dny +2

    Snape is the perfect example of an anti-hero

  • @khanumgalaxy9926
    @khanumgalaxy9926 Před 11 dny +1

    Best Everyman example is Emmet from the lego movie.

  • @Protosilver97
    @Protosilver97 Před 20 dny +1

    Neo from Matrix would count as an everyman, right? He didn't exactly gain powers. He just molded the matrix like the other guys. Great video!

  • @linkholder
    @linkholder Před 6 dny

    Puts Goku in epic hero status next to Hercules. Procedes to explain Goku when listing an example of Super class heros.

  • @niFunRgi
    @niFunRgi Před 3 dny +1

    tks a lot for this video

  • @misteronsepatro7018
    @misteronsepatro7018 Před 7 dny

    As a kid I used to love classical heroes but when I grew up I tend to love more anti heroes because of their grey morality that makes them much more interesting

  • @ZonaiHero-ul5nm
    @ZonaiHero-ul5nm Před 13 dny

    To add another example of a good reluctant hero for me would be Trevor Belmont from the Netflix Castlevania. At first he just wanted to wallow in his own misery after his family was excommunicated and executed by the church. To drink and sleep underneath a tree while Dracula slaughtered the world. After all humanity literally brought this destruction on themselves. But Sypha and the other speakers showed reminded him that there are still good people out there who are worth saving. So he takes up his family legacy and even goes on to defeat both Dracula and Death himself.

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233

    5:21 Gojo, Uncle Ben..? Peter Parker in the Miles series, IDK.

  • @marmik961
    @marmik961 Před 17 dny +1

    Are you gonna do every villain explained?

  • @user-KEVIN_GZZ
    @user-KEVIN_GZZ Před 10 dny +1

    Every God Explained in 7 minutes.❤ please

  • @lemony4478
    @lemony4478 Před 7 dny

    Quick question, who had the most Arcs? I found Achilles from The Song of Achilles with a grand total of five out of nine. I need to know what the maximum is.

  • @adinfinitum5739
    @adinfinitum5739 Před 4 dny

    A great example of an anti-hero is Kaz Brekker for Six of Crows.

  • @Traylbl43er007
    @Traylbl43er007 Před 2 dny

    The reluctant hero
    I SCREAMED LIGHT YAGAMI 3:49

  • @Ultras_450
    @Ultras_450 Před 27 dny +1

    I think Ben Tennyson would fall into RELUCTANT hero category and Optimus Prime in SUPER hero category.

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212 Před 28 dny +4

    Lore of Every Hero Explained in 7 Minutes momentum 100

  • @FTS1366
    @FTS1366 Před 29 dny +5

    Which one would saitama from one punch man fit in?

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 29 dny +3

      Since Saitama is a parody of the Superhero trope you could put him there, but I think he has been in three categories. He starts as an Everyman before training, Superhero as his training gets better, and by the time the series starts he is a Tragic hero who loses purpose after becoming the strongest.

  • @onyxwolfreaper21
    @onyxwolfreaper21 Před 14 dny +1

    Bcuz of this very interesting video about superheroes, I wanna know your opinion on my original story im working on.
    A comic series called Gradient that has two main characters, one falls into the classical hero category while the other is the anti-hero/tragic villain of the two. What makes it different (I think) is the fact these two are brothers but due to their clashing paths they tend to have numerous feuds.
    Kazuya Rekka is the older brother who dont believe in the superheroes in their world to be noble and selfless, instead they’re only there for the glory and riches.
    Kazu Rekka is the younger brother who still believes the good in superheroes are real, thus becoming a hero himself to save those in need and prove his brother wrong. Saving him from the darkness.
    Hope you like it 😁

    • @vizzyven
      @vizzyven  Před 13 dny

      Aside from their conflicting ideologies, I think it's good to establish not just what a character believes, but what made them think that way. That can be more interesting.
      Maybe the brothers share an event that they both perceived differently ala Mob Psycho 100, Mob went berserk with his powers and hurt Ritsu, but that caused him to bottle his powers/emotions away, while Ritsu doesn't remember and envies his brother's abilities. Food for thought

    • @onyxwolfreaper21
      @onyxwolfreaper21 Před 13 dny

      @@vizzyven That's a really good suggestion! I'll keep that in mind while polishing their backstories-

  • @chshirerat5487
    @chshirerat5487 Před 9 dny

    In this case would you place The Doctor from Doctor Who as Catalyst?

  • @1993VolkswagenPassatGLXVR6

    Yes yes, but is Edmond Dantes a hero? I mean, I just remb=embered this, but is he really a hero? Or is he an antihero? Or is he a romantic hero?

  • @bluefoget315
    @bluefoget315 Před 24 dny

    fun fact the picture of "hercules" you showed was actually heracles from Greek mythology, the directors were just not actually intelligent in the mythology catagory

  • @JoeIrregular
    @JoeIrregular Před 9 dny

    John Brown is all of them, it just makes sense.

  • @CheeseGrater05
    @CheeseGrater05 Před 15 dny +2

    Oh yeah!!! Mob Psycho reference!!!

  • @helper809
    @helper809 Před 21 dnem +1

    Romantic hero for me!

  • @the_greyster
    @the_greyster Před 4 dny

    Deadpool is a good example of an antihero.

  • @AntonioPatru
    @AntonioPatru Před 9 dny

    Shouldn't Itadori be a "Jehkl and Hyde" villain cuz Sukuna is evil and takes over his body, making them sorta like a Venom and Eddie duo?

  • @RonaldoDrinker
    @RonaldoDrinker Před 26 dny +1

    Great video but now give me every type of villain

  • @blaster.m1943
    @blaster.m1943 Před 8 dny

    Bruce campbell would be epic

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 Před 20 dny

    1:22, like Arthur Pendragon or Harry Potter or Luke Skywalker or Avatar Aang

  • @AudibleFist
    @AudibleFist Před 5 dny

    Venom and Harley Quinn inclusions for Anti fit better if you describe them as anti-villains.

  • @jamiljamillmeadows3977

    Kleon from Greece was an everyman

  • @BoredomStudios
    @BoredomStudios Před 21 dnem +1

    Im surprised and slightly disappointed you didn't mention redhood for the anti-hero

  • @Blazingstudios882
    @Blazingstudios882 Před 28 dny +4

    I love this video, but putting the classical hero in the high willingness category isn’t very accurate they are fated to be heroes so they literally have no choice in the matter because destiny is forcing them to do it, and that’s why I think they classical heroes should be in the lowest willingness category.

    • @Aiden-wg4pu
      @Aiden-wg4pu Před 28 dny +3

      It really just depends. The hero may be eager to answer their destiny, or they may drag their feet. I don’t think the willingness spectrum is a good way to measure a hero.

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 Před 20 dny +1

    0:28, what I want to know is, what makes a hero who isn’t an anti-hero not anti

    • @user-st7yo1he7s
      @user-st7yo1he7s Před 20 dny

      Anti-heroes include characters like Lelouch Lamperouge (spoilers). These were characters who used immoral means in order to achieve their goal. Anti-heroes are characters with good intent who do villain-like activities to achieve their final goal. In this case, Lelouch became a villain and forcefully ruled the world in hopes that people would unite together and form peace after his death. A hero meanwhile will try to achieve their goals using a direct straight path, and overtake any obstacles in a way beneficial to himself and those who want to help. An anti-hero meanwhile will follow a less indirect path and are willing to sacrifice those around him.

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Před 19 dny

      @@user-st7yo1he7s That example sounds like a villain (rather than an anti-hero.) But accepting that an anti-hero is someone who does villain-like things to achieve heroic goals, is Harry Potter an anti-hero? Since he uses two of the three unforgivable curses.

    • @user-st7yo1he7s
      @user-st7yo1he7s Před 19 dny

      @@matityaloran9157 Villains do bad things in order to achieve selfish goals. Anti-hero's do bad things for the greater good. Harry Potter isn't an anti-hero, he had good intentions and was a classical hero throughout his journey. Just because a hero did something bad doesn't make him an anti-hero.
      Harry used the curses in a heroic way and wished to save everybody. Meanwhile an Anti-hero may use the curses extensively, or use crude methods to stop the villain. They wouldn't mind sacrifice.
      A better way to sum it up, a villain would be the one holding hostages, a hero would try to help those being held as hostages, an Anti-Hero would kill them and villain if it ensured his victory.

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Před 19 dny

      @@user-st7yo1he7s All right then. Is Eragon an anti-hero? Since when Galbatorix threatens to kill children to get Eragon to surrender, Eragon refuses to do so (despite believing Galbatorix) because he’s not convinced Galbatorix would keep his word even if Eragon acquiesced and even if he did, he’d do more evil things later on.

    • @user-st7yo1he7s
      @user-st7yo1he7s Před 19 dny

      @@matityaloran9157 Yes, kind of, since he unlike a traditional hero, is not here to do unnecessary effort in order to gain extra Aura when the path ahead is easier

  • @BusterDuDummy
    @BusterDuDummy Před 15 dny

    We need a villain chart now.