Cancelling a project even if it is restarted is a horrendously expensive thing to do. And as with Net Zero it was also a Manifesto pledge agreed by all the parties so in this case it is a thousand percent anti-democratic. Trust Murdoch's Goons not to point that out.
In the first-world West things are very expensive because wages are high and people get paid for things. The expense thing is a smoke screen for the Tory realisation that HS2 with lessen the wealth gap between the south and the north. The thought of which makes their blood run even colder.
@@toi_techno You have a deluded view on why there is a wealth gap its sadly not fixable with an over priced railway. What extra high paying jobs will be in the north????????
Yep - the whole political class wanted it - they saw it as some big infrastructure vanity project. That is why I don't think it will get cancelled - just delayed at best.
Whether HS2 is extended to Manchester might be debatable, but whether it comes all the way into Euston is not. Only a complete imbecile would leave what's meant to be a high speed inter city link on the outskirts of a city, where getting there would wipe out any benefit. This is doubly so when one considers how much work and expense has already gone into bringing the link into Euston.
I wonder why this project didn't start in the North, a cynic might say it started in the South just in case they ran out of money and the southern infrastructure would be improved again while the North loses out again.
Mr Burnham should reflect on the fact that by his prominent support for Leave in 2016 and the resulting hard Brexit he has condemned GB to second class status ...as we all find out every day.
Here is and interesting little fact for everyone! one of the main contractors of hs2 Balfour Beaty main shareholder is Manchester city council pension fund!
HS2 should have started in Manchester. The inward investment would have benefitted the North and help levelling up in this country. London has already had cross rail and two extra underground station costing (40 billion) twice their original budget. It is financial discrimination for the North.
HS2 ? Billions for 20 Minutes ! The leading EU . countries all did this 30 years ago ! Lines should have been upgraded with new modern rolling stock . Saving millions .
Brexit Britain has no money, everything has to be cut back on now as the ongoing decline is managed, it's what people voted for, they were told they'd be poorer.
Nobody has mentioned the price of a ticket because when compared to going through the tunnel it's obviously not after working classes money. It will be an exclusive option with a premium cost. Scrap it all and make a road or normal railroad.
Actually not. The prices will be very similar to what they would have been on ordinary tracks. HS2 will free up capacity for local trains and freight on the existing lines.
Thus bloke doesn't speak for the north. He speaks for the north west. The north needs a decent east to west link far more than a line from Manchester to london.
The North has always been treated as a second thought by Westminster when it comes to big infrastructure projects. Alway the last to be served when money is getting short and cost cutting begins. I come from Bolton, now living in Berlin, Germany.
@@annbarns652 Always nice to hear from someone in Bolton. I'm in Bolton every now and then visiting relatives and I'm always shocked at how things there have been going down hill in the past 30 years. Most of my friends there have now emigrated because the North has so little to offer them and if they move somewhere else it might as well be Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Hs2 just concentrates more wealth in SE/ London. It should be focused around Manchester and that part or uk. We want to decentralise and reduce London centric uk. Andy getting lined up for instant cabinet role in labour gov. Give it 6 months and someone will be given a peerage to give him a safe seat.
HS2 is a huge waste of money, invest in new rolling stock and road improvements. It certainly appears that this situation is the latest black hole that the con-servatives can pour our money.
Forget high speed. Just bring the prices down.
Cancelling a project even if it is restarted is a horrendously expensive thing to do. And as with Net Zero it was also a Manifesto pledge agreed by all the parties so in this case it is a thousand percent anti-democratic. Trust Murdoch's Goons not to point that out.
Lol they also manifested to reduce immigration stop making out a 160 Billion railway was agreed by the public!!!!!
In the first-world West things are very expensive because wages are high and people get paid for things.
The expense thing is a smoke screen for the Tory realisation that HS2 with lessen the wealth gap between the south and the north. The thought of which makes their blood run even colder.
@@toi_techno You have a deluded view on why there is a wealth gap its sadly not fixable with an over priced railway. What extra high paying jobs will be in the north????????
@@marumaru6084the implication all along has been that allowing poor northerners to travel to London would fix everything!
Yep - the whole political class wanted it - they saw it as some big infrastructure vanity project. That is why I don't think it will get cancelled - just delayed at best.
Whether HS2 is extended to Manchester might be debatable, but whether it comes all the way into Euston is not. Only a complete imbecile would leave what's meant to be a high speed inter city link on the outskirts of a city, where getting there would wipe out any benefit. This is doubly so when one considers how much work and expense has already gone into bringing the link into Euston.
Wrong. Only a complete imbecile would cancel to Leeds, Manchester, and Scotland.
Just scrap it
Not even a mlttorway all the way from carlksle to Glasgow.
Single track train north of perth.
Its 1945 hers.
Not 2 things to Sunak, 2 words followed by to California now rather than later
I wonder why this project didn't start in the North, a cynic might say it started in the South just in case they ran out of money and the southern infrastructure would be improved again while the North loses out again.
It would never have been started. It had to start from the London to Birmingham.
I live in Scotland but I wondered about this too . If it was all about the Northern power house why not start in the North .
Scotland & Wales are owed Billions for being charged for HS2 that we're not benefiting from
The south is the most expensive bit. I've also been told by engineers it was important to start from London to try and create the 'Y' axis
@@jamesharris5707 Thats all fine and dandy, when are we getting back our Billions owed?
Mr Burnham should reflect on the fact that by his prominent support for Leave in 2016 and the resulting hard Brexit he has condemned GB to second class status ...as we all find out every day.
Here is and interesting little fact for everyone! one of the main contractors of hs2 Balfour Beaty main shareholder is Manchester city council pension fund!
HS2 should have started in Manchester. The inward investment would have benefitted the North and help levelling up in this country. London has already had cross rail and two extra underground station costing (40 billion) twice their original budget. It is financial discrimination for the North.
HS2 ? Billions for 20 Minutes ! The leading EU . countries all did this 30 years ago ! Lines should have been upgraded with new modern rolling stock . Saving millions .
Absolutely spot on
Unfortunately the majority of the English public with still vote tory 😳
Brexit Britain has no money, everything has to be cut back on now as the ongoing decline is managed, it's what people voted for, they were told they'd be poorer.
Why? Because London is the capital. There is so much more people in London.
Nobody has mentioned the price of a ticket because when compared to going through the tunnel it's obviously not after working classes money. It will be an exclusive option with a premium cost. Scrap it all and make a road or normal railroad.
Actually not. The prices will be very similar to what they would have been on ordinary tracks. HS2 will free up capacity for local trains and freight on the existing lines.
Thus bloke doesn't speak for the north. He speaks for the north west. The north needs a decent east to west link far more than a line from Manchester to london.
We dont need a high speed train , we need a wall 50' high x 15' wide running from Liverpool to Hull to keep Seven Bin Sunak's sycophants out.
We need one over the Pennines to keep Lancastrians out.
49 comments.. 13 visable. ffs embarrassing..
London haters. It is the capital , get over it.
The North has always been treated as a second thought by Westminster when it comes to big infrastructure projects. Alway the last to be served when money is getting short and cost cutting begins.
I come from Bolton, now living in Berlin, Germany.
good choice to move to Germany . Bolton is gone to the dogs its a mess
@@annbarns652 Always nice to hear from someone in Bolton.
I'm in Bolton every now and then visiting relatives and I'm always shocked at how things there have been going down hill in the past 30 years.
Most of my friends there have now emigrated because the North has so little to offer them and if they move somewhere else it might as well be Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
The north gets more than the south west
Deliberately run down to depopulate the north to ensure the south has permanent dominance in government.
Hs2 just concentrates more wealth in SE/ London. It should be focused around Manchester and that part or uk. We want to decentralise and reduce London centric uk. Andy getting lined up for instant cabinet role in labour gov. Give it 6 months and someone will be given a peerage to give him a safe seat.
It’s not an issue for anyone but you, Mr Pandy.
Andy Burnham - King of the North! ✊🏻
Yeah and he can’t wait to unleash ulez on Greater Manchester
HS2 is a huge waste of money, invest in new rolling stock and road improvements. It certainly appears that this situation is the latest black hole that the con-servatives can pour our money.
Why should I listen to a man who wears mascara?
Yeah nahhhh
Ooh good argument there Col.