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This entire Ultimate reminds me of the words of a certain Warrior of Darkness:
"One life, for one world. A fair trade, wouldn't you agree?!?!?"
I have several theories as to why and how Niddhogg would neurolink Hraelsvelgr:
1. Because we defeat Thordan in the Churning Mists, it is implied he was already killing dragons there. One theory is that he killed so much that Niddhogg didn't have enough forces anymore to assault Ishgard with only his brood, hence why he enslaved Hraelsvelgr.
2. Because Thordan was in the Churning Mists, when Niddhogg flees, he obviously would stray away from the Churning Mist instead of taking refuge there. If he still has the memories of his eye inside of Ascalon, then he would know about the Allagan technologies in Azys Lla.
3. In the Aerie, we see a shard of Dalamud that struck there. The devs said that it was just to show how far Dalamuds shards came down, but it is also possible the Neurolink came from this shard.
4. Because we beat Thordan full power, Niddhogg is not as confident about beating us as during the Haurchefant timeline, hence why he enslaves Hraelsvelgr.
Something I personally found interesting while watching the fight play out is that while Nidhogg tends to stay targetable/able to take hits from the party for most of his phases, Thordan tends to spend quite a bit of time away from the party, letting his knights (and during the later phase, dragons) try to overwhelm your party. It seems consistent with their characters since Nidhogg wants to personally cause exact his revenge, and Thordan tends to utilize his minions more than trying to straight up overpower you
This timeline kills me cause it implies that even when Thordan has a huge aetherpool and can now temper dragons, WoL can still slap the shit outta him
According to the Minstrel. I think this timeline would have probably ended badly if it 'actually' happened.
This is a what IF scenario. Not really cannon. Regarding the WoL powers, well he is at least strong enough to beat most primals cannonically ( I will tell you why in a moment) the WoL is SUPER resistent to attacks ( just look at eden prime galaxy busting attack. Eden open up a rift in space and time and send your body to an exploding galaxy)
WoL is super strong and I doubt Dragon King Thordan would beat him if he was cannon. What Thordan would do was to kill many people and dragon alike.
So far, WoL can't 1 v 1 Omega, Midgarsormm, Alexander, Meteion/Endsinger, Cloud of Darkness full power and some few other bosses without some sory of intervention or outside help either from Ironworks, scions shenanigans or Hydaelyn
Only at level 90... In other words, Thordan would have been capable of level 90 feats at a level 60 point in the story, and the WoL would have been 30 levels behind in being able to deal with him
@@Yokai_Yuri i think you are not supposed to ask that question at all about WOL powerlevel. Its what the story needs it to be at that moment and very inconsistent.
Just the minstrel. Remember that the only canon happenings in the the world is normal mode everything
"FFXIV doesn't have a good track record of passing tethers"
*remembers wiping to O10S a million times because of the bulwark pass*
Accurate statement.
NISI pass in tea literally at the mercy of server ticks
how long ive spent wiping to that phase, the things i wish i could forget D;
Congrats on the clear!! I'll never have the chance to do it myself so I lived vicariously through all the streamers.
You're right, Haps. It is exciting knowing that the dev team can create any sort of "What if" story for an ultimate. With that being said... What if Rhitatyn harnessed the power the Warring Triad and we had Cape Westwind Ultimate? Eh? Eh? Eh?
My thought on Warring Triad is still that they're going to do an 'Allag War' Ultimate, since that's where they fit narratively AND the next logical step after incorporating dungeon bosses into ultimates is.... alliance raid bosses. Alternate versions of Xande and Cloud of Darkness designed for 8 players, along with Warring Triad nad some 'perfect Xande'(or even 'Perfect Amon' drawing in some of the lore of that character) final form?
That's my train of thought.
I could see a Tsukuyomi ultimate exploring alternate versions of events for Stormblood.
@@tenjenk I'm certain Tsukuyomi will be a part of the narrative Stormblood arc. Stormblood's narrative arc is less cohesive than Heavensward so it'll be harder to tell one consistent story for that one though... but rewriting history is very much an option so who knows? lol
What if we beat Zenos at the beginning fight at Rhalgr's Reach, and none of the Doma events happen
@@UltaFlame there would be no reason to go there then. the point was to have two points of war.
The Warring Triad would be a completely alternative story written not by Minstrel, but by ... Omega.
Kefka is the true lord of the warring triad.
"This is your huge consistency check, along with the previous mechanic, and the previous phase, and th-" that tickled me lol. This fight is insanely tight all the way through. Even that initial phase 0.5 before the checkpoint is no slouch, definitely feels on par with something in uwu or tea.
In this alternate timeline, I think we'd definitely be fucked. We only managed to go head-to-head against Nidhogg thanks to Hrsvaelgr giving us the power of his eye.
And now you're telling me we could have fought Nidhogg AND Hrsvaelgr at the same time? We'd be supremely fucked.
Plot armor won’t allow it
Dragon King Thordan
Lvl 12 monster
Warrior/Fusion/Effect
Atk 4000
Def 4000
Requires 1 Nidhogg, 1 Hraesvelgr, and 1 polymerization
Effect: When you summon this monster to the field select 2 monsters on your opponents side of the field with the highest defense stat. If the sum of both monsters defense is lower than this card’s attack both monsters are sent to the graveyard.
Once per turn you may take permanent control of 1 dragon type monster on your opponents side of the field.
This has been one the coolest progs to watch, the story unfolding, the mechanic discovery, the way teams went through it and how they got to the end. Thank you for sharing!
Just finally watching this. Thank you SO much for going over this. I greatly enjoyed it.
excited for whatever they’re going to do with Omega.
Then after Omega, we get Light Rampant Ultimate? :D
@@tuck295q well; if they go by 8-man Raid and final boss. . . maybe an epic of Garlemald? I imagine we'll be getting some crazy Zenos fight.
Just make everyone solo Zenos or fail the raid lol
hope they pull out a sephiroth simulation
Hello World but worse. Woohoo.
i just hope they call it Omega Weapon Optimized, that way we'd have UWU and OWO
I appreciate getting this video with that post victory glow still going strong
Your passion is palpable. Loved listening to this!
I love how, at the very end, Mrhappy just turns into a little kid playing with his action figures lol "And then SHINRYUU come in like BSSSSSHHHH but Kefka is there too and they're fighting each other like BOOOOOSH PSHAAAOW and Omega absorbs MIDGARDSORMR and it's like WOOOOOAAAAAAHHHH" 😂
It was definitely still called Drachenlance in Final Steps of Faith, just was an instant cast tank cleave.
Yeas I listened to your hour of rambling about it and yes I'm excited about that take for it. Can't wait to see where Ultimates go from here!
Having been watching Preach play through FFVI after never having done so myself, your speculations on Kefka's potential involvement somewhere in ultimates in the future have me very weirdly excited... Especially for someone who's not really interested in playing through ultimates myself.
I'll never do this content. You did a good job of communicating the experience. Thanks!
This prog race was something quite special. It's cool and all watching old bosses get remastered into ultra hard mode with some new beats and complex puzzles to crack, but they completely took this to a whole new level with the branching timelines, eight phases, the storytelling, attention to detail and of course they cranked the Heavensward power fantasy to critical levels with thordan and the dragon eyes. Like bro, I remember the levels of hype (and terror) when Thordan, with only one or two eyes wiped out two ascians (one of them being mfing Lahabrea) solo and that was already enough power fantasy for one day. Then they go out there and the power explodes even crazier when the WoL gets one of Hreasvelgars eyes in the Final Steps. And then this shit happens with eating all FOUR of them.
This boss fight was absolutely CRANKED! I absolutely can't wait to see what they do with Shinryu and Endsinger. I expect truly great things from those two.
Edit: actually, I fully expect them at this point to go full Gurren Lagann with Endsinger.
Great video. I look forward to your second review after a few months of reflection on this
It is so cool to me just how they're able to make story beats into mechanics, and even call back to mechanics in other fights like with the eyes.
Yea this was truly a work of art ..
I'm seriously in love with Dragon King doing a triple gigaflare. So cool
Congrats on the clear!! Get some well earned rest. :)
Really hope they do Warring Triad.
And then we get Omega + Shinryu & Zenos together or an Ala Mhigo Liberation and Four Lords.
29:00 I remember in one of the dragon related dungeons, just nearly out of sight there has been some Allagan neurolink tech just lying around a helluva long distance away from any allagan sites. People were wondering what that was about and ends up nidhogg may infact have been planning to do just this.
I wonder if Edmont's VA didn't die, would he had narrated this?
It's sad to know that ppl who don't play or know about ff14 will never get to experience such a beautifully designed virtual composition of art. Thinking back to my first steps into summerford farms... it was the idea of taking on mechanically intuitive encounters that kept me pushing to learn every nook n cranny of eorzea. It's so funny how your perspective changes as you progress through tbe expansions....I hold it so dear to me that learning phase. Long story short it was my desire to engage in challenging mmo content that kept me pushing and I'm so glad I never stopped. ....and boy does 14 deliver....these fights actually invoke emotion , the designers are just soo good at creating these epic dramatic moments paired with perfectly scored music...ughhhh it's soo good
Not that it matters much but, the Drachenlance is in the encounter just isn't a cast bar. Its his auto attacks as Estinien.
Congrats on your clear!
Very cool walkthrough
Hope someone makes a compilation video of people/chat reacting to key lore pointss of the first time runs, It was amazing looking at chat going nuts when the time reset happened and people realized LB3 was still up
This whole thing really does make one wonder what the hell they're gonna do with Omega eventually...
In regards to the nuerolink, there has always been allagan tech in Niddhogs’ lair, so chances are hes always had it but chose to never use it. He probably changed his mind in the Alt timeline after seeing Thordan somehow temper dragons, thinking mortals crossed an even bigger line and all bets were off
What is Mr Ozma on like damn....
Everything Heavensward is just top tier ;)
Congratulations!!
This is just another example of where they could've gotten away with doing less, but went the extra mile to make it better.
Omg haurchefant, my boy! That was one the most painful character deaths in my opinion. I wonder how many ppl got emotional seeing him first time and screwed up a run
"I don't know how they're gonna TOP this." Uh oh foreshadowing
congrats on the clear!!! that point you had at the end got me thinking about a potential Ultimate that's basically just the Minstrel telling us about FF6. There's so many references to 6 in 14, like Kefka, the magitek armor, Ultros and Typhon, warring triad, chadarnook and the ghost train etc. Just combine all that mess into one encounter.
Warring triad + Kefka would be so sick
I'd love to see Kefka and the warring triad team up. That would make for an incredible ultimate. Omega, of course should be another one. This was an incredibly well crafted fight that really brought its A game.
If ... Thordan gets .... a cape ....
When do we get a cape???
Congrats on your clear Hap!
When will we get Savage/Ultimate Dungeons Mr. Happy? =(
I was wondering if Alphinaud and Estinien died during the Thordan transformation. You can see him trying to flee with Estinien but can't see if they "die die".
If so that would really be the darkest timeline! Sorry Haurchefant but i will bury you myself to keep those 2 alive hahaha.
The imagery on this is really funny to me for some reason. I'm just seeing my WOL throwing shovels of dirt on Haurchefaunt.
...what if they did get out of the blast radius
but got tempered anyway
counterpoint: no more "speak with Alphinaud" mission objectives
Honestly I believe one of the next ultimates might as well be a collab of all the ascians we know, like Nabriales, Lahabrea, Igeyohrm, the Ascian Prime, Elidibus and Emet-Selch.
I love how the end of this video sounds like the ramblings of a madman.
He calmly goes over mechanics like it's nothing and I'm over here thinking, I will die so many times if I try this, partially due to lag and mostly because my reflex time isn't what it used to be.
I began fresh prog of TEA two days ago, and the PF group passed Living Liquid’s Jagd Dolls after 2 hours, and pretty much nailed proteans afterwards. It became evident that this was all about muscle memory and pattern recognition and I totally got used to it. This would be my first Ultimate too. But this is on another level, that combination of chaotic mechs at the start? Christ I think I’m gonna need to build my skills first lol.
This might just be my favorite ultimate im never going to complete
. I'm usually not a player who has time to dedicate to a Ultimate but the narrative focus on this one kinda changes things for me.
Congratulations Happy
Good to see a bard in those high-end content
Isnt it always brd or dancer? Machinist is just kinda meh lol
so like in everything? BRD is literally the only playble ranged phys xD
BRD is super good now, you'll see a lot of BRD and NIN nowadays in high-end ontent
I feel the best thing you can draw from this is that the previous ultimates gave you a what if scenario while this gives you a what if storyline and even if these things seem farfetched from our perspective through heavensward its not impossible all of these things still seem in the realm of possibility. Its not just a "what if zenos and lahabrea teamed up with vothry and summoned an army of sin eaters" all those people had no direct interaction with each other and were literal worlds apart while everything here had some interaction with each other to some possible degree of separation keeping them apart. My only fear is that now too much randomized theory crafting may create a plausible enough story that we may spoil ourselves in the process
I have a feeling they might mix Omega and Shinryu in one interdimensional rift themed ultimate and the other ultimate would be four lords themed to fit in the Stormblood theme. Would be cool since we never got to fight Kohryu originally
I was hoping youd do exactly this video, since ill never do the fight. Thank you.
DSUCOB!! Also I felt, Revenge of the Horde was missing. Would've been sick at some point in the last phases of the fight.
Aaaaand looking forwards to Saving Private Yotsuyu.
Past and Possible Future Ultimates:
2.0
Bahamut (Bahamut, Nael, Twintania) -> UCoB (The Unending Coil of Bahamut)
Ultima (Ultima, Garuda, Ifrit, Titan) -> UWU (The Weapon's Refrain / Ultima Weapon Ultimate)
3.0
Alexander (Alexander, Brute Justice, Cruise Chaser, Living Liquid) -> TEA (The Epic of Alexander)
Thordan (Thordan, Knights, Nidhogg, Hraesvelgh) -> DSR (The Dragonsong's Reprise)
Warring Triad (Sephirot, Sophia, Zurvan, + possibly Kefka)
4.0
Omega (Omega M and F, Final Omega, possibly Exdeath, Kefka) + Shinryu
Ara-mitama (Byakko, Suzaku, Seiryu, Genbu)
5.0
Eden (Ryn, Gaia, 2.x Primal Revisions, Eden bosses)
Hades + Warriors of Light (or can be combined with 6.0 SPOILER fights)
Weapon Series (Ruby, Emerald, Sapphire, Diamond Weapons)
6.0
Pandaemonium (Sexy Vampire Daddy + ...)
SPOILER (Main Scenario lvl83, 89, 90 Trial Bosses)
Lets go! Warring Triad + Kefka its an amazing opportunity
35:46 I was really struck by, very sad and and bittersweet.
Would love to hear that follow-up on if this ultimate and if it's stood the test of time the last few months after reclears
I hope you enjoyed your victory sushi!
I do wonder if we are going to see a Warring Triad ultimate. ARR didn’t have an offical “optional raid serise” so it would be interesting if Ultimate 5 ends up being Warring Triad Ultimate, or if they are going to forgo the trial serises (would be unfortunate, would love to see an ultimate featuring the WT, Four Lords, Weapons, and probably-the-endwalker-trial-serise-I-won’t-spoil) and go straight into Omega.
I also have questions about the Omega ultimate as well that are intetesting. The Stormblood Savage Raids were the ones that introduced savage exclusive phases, so if Kefka, Exdeath, and Omega are the “trio,” will it be the normal versions? Or are we going to get God Kefka, Neo-Exdeath, and O12S phase 2? (I can just imagine a trio already that somehow combines something like Delta Attack, Forsaken, and Hello World. Yeesh.) Are we going to see both? I would imagine we would fight a harder version of the O11 fight as well earlier on (as the beetle bot form is Omega’s most reconizable appearance). Is Shinryu going to be involved in the Omega Ultimate, despite most likely getting an ultimate of his own, or vice versa? If Kefka plays a part in the Warring Triad Ultimate, will Kefka appear again for Omega?
A lot of questions now, expecially with how DSR turned out, the flood gates are really open. I am looking forward to whenever they announce the theme of Ultimate 5
Alternative ending : the WoL pushes Haurchefant to the side and takes the spear himself and dies. Haurchefant consumed with rage and sadness, inherits the echo summons the twelve and the fury and becomes a final boss that thordan has to fight.
I've had 6 ideas for ultimates. This one I said would never happen, but I'd call it "oh **** it's dragons" ... so, the other 5
1. Kefka ultimate, with the waring triad. Kefka, Kefka after a snack, the waring triad, then kefka snacks again, then the tower, and one winged angel.
2. Four Lords Ultimate. We have to fight them again to help them return to their senses, do it wrong and they can't help and the final fight against the spirit in the jar. Do it right and they enrage, but you have to pull out a win, and then they are there to help you with the spirit of the jar.
3. Omega Ultimate. Not just Omega. Not just Omega who actually learned the meaning of spirit and limit breaks from getting back in touch with the forces replicated by birb. But Omega with an entire army behind him.
4. Eden Ultimate. Honestly, I just figure having to fight them all in a row with no breaks, but they get absorbed by ARK and then you fight ARK.
5. Bozjah ultimate. 7 party members fighting the main mechanics, but the 8th has to go off and do a solo fight. Solo fight fails or takes too long, wipe. Main fight goes too long, wipe. All 8 party members have a solo to fight. The main fights are all the various "weapon" robots and other various devastating war machines of the Garlean war effort. And then all 8 solo fights, but all at once, with swaps.
6 Diablos. This is one I think will happen, but not until after we've seen him again on 13.
weapon robots were bozjan guardians for the doot doot queen, not garlean tech. they are also giga boring xD
Emerald was garlean, had an entire plot about sacrificining the kids to use them as imprinted drones to make them work. Something out of classic scifi robot horror animie.
I mean THOSE garlean weapons. Not the chess pieces.
So I recently went through 2.X again on an alt and I wanna put in a possibility for an Omega ultimate: What if Teledji got his way? What if he did actually assassinate Nanamo and then managed to get his hands on Omega?
I had COMPLETELY forgotten that Omega was brought up during 2.3, mostly cause it didn't get brought back up til 3.55. And now bc of this Ultimate the idea has been swirling in my head for a couple weeks.
Apparently we told the wm about fighting TG Cid. So what about the very big Garlean airship?
Thank you for this, it was really interesting !
if they keep things the way they are than next ultimate would be the Omegascape... featuring Omega, Omega F/M, Deus Ex Omega and some boss projections i guess...
Probably among the best ultimates theme and story-wise and how said theme and story was brought forward. UCOB is a close second for me there, though it stood at #1 in terms of theme and story up until now. And yeah, one of the things about ultimate that hits you hardest: you don't have to clear it just once, but eight times so everyone can get their weapons. When you clear it the first time and think: "freedom!", think again.
But when you clear once, all party members get a totem
Ultimates work differently from savage. When you clear, everyone gets a totem like you would see in an extreme trial. That totem can then be traded for a weapon, so you only have to clear once for everyone to get all the rewards from the fight.
@@Lyrxen except the freaks who want every weapon xD
@@ich3730 well, barring masochists
Grats on the sleep!
You get Ysayle's buff even if she is alive in that timeline because its Shiva buffing you. not lady iceheart (lol)
Is it fair to call Niddhogg’s vow Allagan Rot 2?
it'll probably be a year or two for Omega Ultimate.
I like that it all felt important. No trash added on stuff like Living Liquid :P
Pretty sure you just did the major what if with the Triad here so not betting on them appearing. I am a little tiny bit sad ny theory of the Dragon Song Ultimate didn't have you fight Ratatosker as it would have been a perfect time to see her. But that's me complaining about a single sesame seed falling off my burger.
I’ve never an ultimate before. Would it be a bad idea to do this one as my first?
Honestly, definitely no. This Ultimate is considered the most difficult fight in the game and not many people in the world have even cleared this fight yet. If you have the current Savage fights down, I would attempt Ultimate Weapon Ultimate or Ultimate Coils of Bahamut first to feel out how an Ultimate fight compares to Savage. These are the first and considered the easiest Ultimate fights and many people even clear through PF. Be honest with your skill level, if you’re really that good then you’ll join a static no problem, otherwise def keep playing and practicing. You’ll get there eventually
What if you not spare Thordan? Its still beatable?
And, what if you dont save H. after rewind, will you still fight Thordan and potentially spare him(dark path indeed)?
I think that replayability is great idea. You can play different scenarios for reclears(well, 4), figure out new ways to beat this fight than just to be done with that.
Iirc if u didnt save H., it loops back to the checkpoint.
Happy mentioned if you didnt spare thordan, esti is unable be saved and its a fail
if you dont save haurchefaunt, thordan gets a damage boost and becomes unbeatable in phase 2.
if you kill thordan instead of sparing him, youll defeat the dragons in the next phase, and then die to estinien because you wont be able to save him.
there is only one way to claim victory over this ultimate.
Don't Save H = Time Loops back because events play out the same storywise ( H dies, Thordan mentions Azys Lla which lets us chase after him), we are only being looped back because the Minstrel wants to tell his own alternate version of the fight and he cant do that unless we do things differently
Save H = No urgency to chase after Thordan since he doesnt mention Azys Lla, hence we are late in stopping him from becoming God King Thordan and Tempering the Dragons to his control. thus begins Minstrel's alternate story telling
Kill Thordan = Thordan Drops his sword ( leading to Estinien to become Nidhogg, same as original timeline ) but because Haurchefant and Ysayle never died ( ysayle never having to die in azys lla because we never went there) we do not get buffs to enable us to rip the eyes away from estinien wiping the entire party. Estinien-Nidhogg manages to use allagan tech scattered around The Aery to control Hraesvelgr and attack ishgard.
Spare Thordan = Thordan escapes but drops his sword ( same situation, leads into Estinien turning to Nidhogg), same as Kill Thordan route, Estinien-Nidhogg manages to use allagan tech scattered around The Aery to control Hraesvelgr but this time Estinien was able to be saved because Thordan appears at the last minute and steals both eyes from him instead of us utilizing the buffs from haurchefant and ysayle to yank them ourselves, leading into the Minstrel's penu ultimate climax of his alternate story in Sohm Ahl with Dragon King Thordan final phase.
@@Kubo_kubo actually we get the Ysaile buff but not the H one. I saw a clip of it somewhere
@@Kubo_kubo Thanks for the breakdown. It's good to know that there is an alternate ending, where not everything is screwed. It lets us know that depending on our choices, things could turn out better... or worse.
Were yall world 1st?
All fine with that Ultimate so far for me, but can I be rly honest 25min is just to long in my opinion =.=
I think there is a hidden achivement for when people have better gear with future savage raids, that you can kill thordan and still clear the ultimate with a different timeline. Kinda like a second Ultimate version.
wait - will we get 3 ultimates in the endwalker or will the order shift to 1?
1 or 2.
Iirc because of last time they don't want to do one in .5 patch.
I heard if you let him die the second time it takes u to a timeline where you are brought to the maw in the shadow lands and you kill the jailer n those events make it so that shadowlands never get released and blizzard and wow gets saved n doesn't lose its whole player base. ....crazy alternate timeline with a secret phase but it's quick cuz the jailers shit was weak lol 😆
that look nice, let's not do it
I hope for a sephiroth ultimate one day. Can you imagine how mind-blowing that would be lol.
Nael is already in UCoB
@@RockR277 ?? But nael isnt sephiroth?
A FF series fanservice ultimate would be dope.
@@ich3730 absolutely in fact i hope one day 14 includes all the final or superbosses from the other ffs into an ultimate/savage.
@@blackmagekongs2588 Nael is seen as kind of a stand in for Sephiroth, but regardless of that, they'd have to actually put Sephiroth in the game as part larger story first, something big and epic along the lines of what was used for the prior ultimates. They don't just do random fanservice, outside of events of course.
I love the video but I hate how he keeps butchering the pronounciation of Haurchefant
Video longer than clear prog.
So is the harder than the hardest WoW raid?
You cannot compare a one boss raid to one one with multiple bosses
@@Eclipse4589 So hardest boss then?
🤡🤡🤡
@@Eclipse4589 FF14 removed raids after ARR. They just added savage trials after they noticed they were trash at designing large, flavorful enviroments and better at singular fights on epic scales.
33:20 What is this? AM like gaols in uwu? If so i'm kinda sad on it.
Depending on the type of DPS meter, it could turn into a sliding slope. Add Ons like this have been ultimately used as a tool for breeding toxicity in end game content for other MMOs, most notably WoW. Bullying, player shaming in WoW is common in end game content, making the social aspect of the end game experience largely negative with regard to player interaction. It has been so prevalent for so long, it is considered the norm. As it stands now, FF generally speaking, is quite the opposite, largely being a fun, supportive experience. Yoshi takes pride in his community, the awards it has actually received for being so accepting and friendly...Is there a way to have a DPS Add On and maintain the community vibe that FF has always had?
This already happens in FFXIV due to how raid content in general is handled. DPS meters won't make it any worse. The core issue is that fundamental things like mitigation, healing and dps/rotation aren't sufficiently taught in playing endgame duties and you can get carried through it easily by how braindead a ton of mechanics are, especially in dungeons.
raid content in FF14 is literally designed for nothing else but dps optimization. Thats why its always full uptime, thats why there are no mechanics that make players kite or push something in the arena. Its insane how they ban dps meters but every raid tier since HW has just been training dummies
What are you talking about "NO ONE EXPECTED". Dude, tons of people expected this.
I do not see how any of this is fun. I am not knocking the people that enjoy this by any means… but this particular game play loop just does not look any way fun.
You're more than welcome to stick to dungeons👍
tbf they made the "save horsefart" thing REALLY obvious. He is targetable, interactable and every second line of dialogue from the minstrel and the fight description is "hmmmmmmmmm WHAT IF you could save the only character whos name people remember from this part of the story hmmmmmmmmmm" And thats a good thing, better then the heart in TEA or the awakened primals which were just silly trial and error mechanics ( with the heart being datamined anyways )
I really hope they do an ascian themed ultimate. "saga of the ancients" or smth. Because the game still needs an actual zodiark fight, the lv 83 half-rendered pile doesnt really count
It will be after 5 more ultimates in the game. Next after this would be Omega and SB msq ultimates, Eden and SHB msq ultimates, Pandaemonium ultimate and then we have Endwalker ultimate which probably will have Zodiark and Haedelyn + Endsinger. Thats assuming if the pattern will stay the same.
Congratulations!!
Congrats!!!