You have to hand it to him. After being such an awful husband, this is probably the best argument he could have made without completely lying. It’s such a desperate attempt but that somehow lends it a pathetic credibility: even the “bad personality vs bad person” bit is almost sold by how sincere he sounds. God am I glad that she begged, though
Yeah I was actually worried for a moment there she might take him back but then was so relieved when she got down on her knees and begged him to leave her.
It made me empathize with him for the first time. An absolute great ending for the character. Most people aren't bad deeply. Most of us have horrible coping mechanisms for dealing with life.
I’m also glad that she chose to leave him after what he said, because what Martin used for his argument is full of catfish and blame as well as subtle hint of making him the victim and Claire the villain. A weaker woman would have bought into it and take him back.
"I am not a bad guy. I just have a bad personality. It's not my fault. Some people are born with fucked personalities. [...] The main fucking problem here is that you don't like me. And that has been breaking my fucking heart for eleven years." Hits too close to home, weirdly enough.
their relationship made me so happy. And during the ceremony when Claire says “the only person I’d run through an airport for is you”. I may have cried 🥺
I still don’t know how I feel about him yet. I personally think that people missed the point of his character. The show isn’t trying to tell you “Hey look at the guy he’s the worst person ever” it’s trying to encourage Claire to find her own happiness despite how sad he is. The show has shown there are people who are bad people that you can keep in contact with despite their ugliness, Fleabag’s godmother, the businessman who sexually harassed a woman multiple times and even Fleabag herself but there are some people that despite the fact they’re just flawed people also actively make your life worse. You can justify it by saying “Everybody’s flawed” but when it actively hurts your own life you have to make the decision if it’s worth it for you. The same way Fleabag’s boyfriend Harry had to leave her and we still like Fleabag. Martin is a character you can feel sympathy for but Claire still has to learn to love Klare (Herself lol) rather than stay in a stagnant relationship out of pity, it is not good for the growth of herself or Martin who admits he fears that she didn’t like him for 11 years. The hardest part of life is not letting go of cartoonish villains, it’s easy to go, “he’s evil bye 👋”. The hardest part is letting go of human people who you feel bad for to live your own life. Some things just don’t work out and it’s hard to explain and even justify sometimes.
This scene has stayed with me ever since first watching this in 2019. I find myself randomly thinking “please leave me!” out of nowhere. I love how she found her power kneeling and It’s not some big cinematic moment, it’s understated and human. By the time she stands up she’s free.
It’s fucking fantastic. Especially considering most of the characters never even had names! When you start getting into the show, you realize that it doesn’t even matter because the writing is so amazing and they don’t need names to be real people with complex personalities. Truly a unique show and one of my favorites of all time. Depressing and relatable but ultimately about overcoming and choosing happiness.
He's pretty full of shit but I think the one true part of that scene was him saying "the problem here is that you don't like me and that has been breaking my heart for eleven years," and "I make you laugh, you said that was the most important thing!" Those parts make me think that he knows something is wrong with him but he doesn't know how to fix it and he thought he had one redeeming quality that made him important to at least one other person. Doesn't redeem him but it makes me sad for him. Living while feeling like you make people uncomfortable is difficult
I mean, he knows what he did wrong and he never tried to fix it. I couldn’t feel sorry for him, especially after he constantly made sexually inappropriate comments towards her sister and even tried to kiss her… like bro if you think your wife is such a catch and you don’t want her to leave, maybe don’t attempt to cheat on her with her sibling? Lol
"I love you i make you laugh i am douche but i make you laugh you said that was the most important thing..." idk why but when he said this i felt pity for him.
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316 Men's mental health is so often igonred in today's society. He has a lot of problems. That doesn't mean it's a good excuse to be an asshole. But one should take a moment before condemning him. He is a depressed alcoholic craving any kind of validation. He wants to feel like he's not such a failure. He wants to feel loved. And he does every shitty thing to get that feeling. He will lie, cheat, manipulate, gaslight... anything just to get some "love". It's sad I think. I'm not happy about his torment.
When I watched this speech it tricked me into feeling bad for him even though I felt like I shouldn’t, then my friend went through all the things he had done during the series and I remembered why he was a bad guy.
How is it gaslighting if this is the first time hes being sincere? Hes not being deceitful, hes just telling her how he feels, and then he accepts her choice. How can that be gaslighting???
@@pepperpattynaise He is blaming his douchebaggery on her; she doesn't understand that he is not a bad person, is just he has a bad personality, she "likes" him like that. Instead of owning the wanting nature of his behaviour he is dumping the blame on her.
@@pepperpattynaise I think we’re reading this scene very differently. I take this to be Martin’s last ditch attempt at persuading Claire to stay with him. He details all of these things he does for her as if they are Herculean tasks and then blames the rest of the bad things he does on having a shitty personality. It reveals he is aware he is a horrible person and he doesn’t even want to put in work to be better. Essentially, he’s trying to guilt her into feeling sorry for him and tries to gaslight her into thinking that she is still in love with him. He then says the only way he would leave her is if she does something he believes she would NEVER do (grovel on her knees infront of him) since she is an extremely prideful person. This scene is so great because she doesn’t accept his speech and puts aside her pride to do what she knows is right but will be more difficult for her. Being happy without Martin is a more difficult choice than just staying with him and being unhappy.
Well it's a terrible example of gaslighting so you should look for a better example. Gaslighting is making you question objective facts. "That dress was green." - Fact "Don't be silly, you're misremembering, that dress was blue." - Lie That's gaslighting. That's it. Now someone who gaslights a partner is obviously gonna be very likely abusive in other ways, but that doesn't make all those other abusive behaviors gaslighting. And ironically, misattributing other abusive behaviors as this particular one based on an old film based on an old play just makes it easier for abusers to manipulate their partners. Not to mention all the things labeled as "abusive" now by internet psychologists that are actually just crappy behavior that everyone is guilty of at some point in their lives, especially in moments of inevitable conflict with a partner who is also imperfect and capable of crappy behavior, and are generally forgivable as long as you both take responsibility and make concrete efforts to improve. I know half of that was irrelevant and this character is an asshole, but words mean things and obscuring those meanings makes it more difficult for people being victimized by these behaviors to actually break through the cycle of abuse and seek help.
I just realized Martin was okay with Fleabag staying so he'd have a witness because he was worried claire might leverage a fake domestic abuse allegation against him.
You know this show has great writing when a hated character starts to be 3-Dimensional. While yes, I can sympathize for his character but it doesn't mean it is excuseable. But I do feel sad for him, he did try in his own way to make her feel good, however their relationship was doomed right from the get-go, they're fundamentally too different people.
And my take on this is a bit of a double standards. Yes, fleebag is an enjoyable character in contrast to Martin, but she is definitely worse. She cheated on her best friend's partner which caused her to commit suicide. I don't see it as gaslighting, or a desperate attempt to win back Claire. I think its quiet pent up rage that he kept in the course of their relationship as Claire's disgust towards him is palpable but he chose to quietly acknowledge it. It's still his mistake however for not choosing to become a better husband for her, atleast we see Fleebag tries to change for the better.
Meh not really. Your character is formed by your actions. Your morals and beliefs guide these actions. If you have bad character then you have a bad personality, which is his own doing. Keep doing shitty things and you are going to be a bad person. People like this always make roundabout explanations to not take accountability. It’s pretty simple, he’s just a terrible person.
@@Aileenwasright i definitely agree with you, obviously he’s an immature person but I do agree to an extent that some people aren’t bad or evil people, they just have a bad personality.
I can see where you are coming from too. Not to cancel out that it's still not good enough to be a bad husband just because you have a bad personality. The key is taking responsibility. However, I do see how some people can be unpleasant/ difficult whatever and not necessarily be downright evil or bad people.
@@emmagbates Exactly, thank you! It’s not an excuse for him to be shitty and honestly, the fact that he’s self aware kind of makes it worse because they means he knows he a shitty person and does nothing to stop it, but people try so hard to find labels for all bad people in their lives; narcissist, psychopaths, sociopaths and I think it’s important to remember that not all bad people are narcissists or have something wrong with them, sometimes they’re just assholes. It doesn’t make them evil, it just makes them mean and annoying.
@s really well said! I would completely agree and it's such an interesting point about labels! I feel like with society placing so much importance on ideas of toxicity and like you say psychopaths, narcissists etc I find a lot of people are blindly calling any perosn that when maybe they simply don't like them or they are just not the right person for them. And there's nothing wrong with that. As far as this character I thought he was an arsehole but he was funny to watch so you know, a little from column A, a little from column B! 😂
fleabag being in the room with a glass of wine reminds me of when my friend was talking to her lawyer outside law office about leaving her husband and i was just there supporting her, eating french fries.
Isn't this the guy from the "Love" Netflix series with Gillian Jacobs? The radio-host pseudodoctor. This dude was great there and here he seems like he's going all in into that same character.
@@Eraziels and as it turns out, this voice was sounding so familiar for a reason. He plays a furiously fuckin' great role of Myc the Mushroom in the Inside Job!
God, I wish I could erase Fleabag from my mind and watch it for the first time all over again 😂 It's about a dysfunctional English woman who keeps fucking up her life, in ways that are funny and charming but also very dark and sad. The first season is good, the second season is great. Even if you don't love it for whatever reason you could probably watch the whole thing in a day, it's that short
@@Chibbykinsyes! The second season is sooo good and very touching. The first season is necessary to understand and enjoy the second season but it may take a bit to really get into it.
TBH Fleabag admitted to doing worse things than he ever did, I don't really get how people hate him so much when they can cheer on fleabag. Divorce is for the best though, he is clearly very sad with Claire and Claire is sad with him.
This show was very dissapointing but I loved this, it's actually very realistic 🤣🤣 he's such an unbearable incel, how they ever stayed married is an actual miracle.
Wohow, I would gladly hear the expectations you brought with yourself watching this series. They must be over the Moon if Fleabag is disappointing for your.
@@RevolutionaryLoser well, and i don't mean for this to sound insulting, but how could you relate to them? the show at its core is about broken women and the men in it are only there to push the plot forward. it's about broken women and their relationships with men, father figures, trauma, their work, feminism & each other. you aren't really meant to relate to the men since they're just plot devices for the women at the end of the day. it's a show that is overwhelmingly about fractured womanhood, so not everyone is going to relate. but it can be good and still not be relatable. not everything that exists to be consumed exists just to be projected on by anyone who comes across it
@@superwhizz114 If I could define what a woke show would be, it would be one where the main character is cool with being called a slut and the happy ending for one girl is a divorce. Also, conveniently, a dude with an anime girl as his profile is exactly who I think would calling things woke without knowing what it means.
Arnie Palmy Alert 🚨 😅
Jasiel, that's your husband...
@@clerveu you come to our house! You get my wife’s name RIGHT!
you probably think because he's a bad man with a big beard that he's really hairy but uuuh... he's not. ...SSSHAVED.
PI U PI U PI U!!!!!
@@21lacla this one’s got the vodka sweetie 🫠
I love that even though you’d expect her being on her knees begging would sound demeaning, she still seems to have more power in the room
You have to hand it to him. After being such an awful husband, this is probably the best argument he could have made without completely lying. It’s such a desperate attempt but that somehow lends it a pathetic credibility: even the “bad personality vs bad person” bit is almost sold by how sincere he sounds. God am I glad that she begged, though
Yeah I was actually worried for a moment there she might take him back but then was so relieved when she got down on her knees and begged him to leave her.
It made me empathize with him for the first time. An absolute great ending for the character. Most people aren't bad deeply. Most of us have horrible coping mechanisms for dealing with life.
I’m also glad that she chose to leave him after what he said, because what Martin used for his argument is full of catfish and blame as well as subtle hint of making him the victim and Claire the villain. A weaker woman would have bought into it and take him back.
this is such an underrated monologue in this series. among the best. so good.
Apparently Phoebe re-wrote it in the car ride to set, and he learned the new version walking from the car to set.
@@therealMuNansen Really? Would love to see the original version.
No one's under rating it, Peggy Hill.
"I am not a bad guy. I just have a bad personality. It's not my fault. Some people are born with fucked personalities. [...] The main fucking problem here is that you don't like me. And that has been breaking my fucking heart for eleven years."
Hits too close to home, weirdly enough.
You can't change your height, facial structure , facial hair , hair type , eye color a wife variety of things but you can be a better person lol
A character like Martin should not be hitting close to home for you💀
@@lyvale if you can emphatize even with the most despicable charavter, that means you're sensitive and the show is good.
I love Fleabag just being there like: 👁👄👁 🍸
Love Claire's unhesitant "Absolutely not!" when he tells Fleabag to fuck off. The two of them finally standing against him.
their relationship made me so happy. And during the ceremony when Claire says “the only person I’d run through an airport for is you”. I may have cried 🥺
I still don’t know how I feel about him yet. I personally think that people missed the point of his character. The show isn’t trying to tell you “Hey look at the guy he’s the worst person ever” it’s trying to encourage Claire to find her own happiness despite how sad he is.
The show has shown there are people who are bad people that you can keep in contact with despite their ugliness, Fleabag’s godmother, the businessman who sexually harassed a woman multiple times and even Fleabag herself but there are some people that despite the fact they’re just flawed people also actively make your life worse.
You can justify it by saying “Everybody’s flawed” but when it actively hurts your own life you have to make the decision if it’s worth it for you. The same way Fleabag’s boyfriend Harry had to leave her and we still like Fleabag.
Martin is a character you can feel sympathy for but Claire still has to learn to love Klare (Herself lol) rather than stay in a stagnant relationship out of pity, it is not good for the growth of herself or Martin who admits he fears that she didn’t like him for 11 years.
The hardest part of life is not letting go of cartoonish villains, it’s easy to go, “he’s evil bye 👋”. The hardest part is letting go of human people who you feel bad for to live your own life. Some things just don’t work out and it’s hard to explain and even justify sometimes.
This scene has stayed with me ever since first watching this in 2019. I find myself randomly thinking “please leave me!” out of nowhere. I love how she found her power kneeling and It’s not some big cinematic moment, it’s understated and human. By the time she stands up she’s free.
Are you drunk? Yes
Are you sober? A little bit
Off the get go and you've already got better dialogue than most shows, it's so dense.
It’s fucking fantastic. Especially considering most of the characters never even had names! When you start getting into the show, you realize that it doesn’t even matter because the writing is so amazing and they don’t need names to be real people with complex personalities. Truly a unique show and one of my favorites of all time. Depressing and relatable but ultimately about overcoming and choosing happiness.
I love Fleabag's little toast motion when Martin says "like everyone else in this fucking country!"
Hahaha yes!
He's pretty full of shit but I think the one true part of that scene was him saying "the problem here is that you don't like me and that has been breaking my heart for eleven years," and "I make you laugh, you said that was the most important thing!" Those parts make me think that he knows something is wrong with him but he doesn't know how to fix it and he thought he had one redeeming quality that made him important to at least one other person. Doesn't redeem him but it makes me sad for him. Living while feeling like you make people uncomfortable is difficult
I mean, he knows what he did wrong and he never tried to fix it. I couldn’t feel sorry for him, especially after he constantly made sexually inappropriate comments towards her sister and even tried to kiss her… like bro if you think your wife is such a catch and you don’t want her to leave, maybe don’t attempt to cheat on her with her sibling? Lol
"I love you i make you laugh i am douche but i make you laugh you said that was the most important thing..." idk why but when he said this i felt pity for him.
Nah it made me happy, more people (males especially) need to know they’re not as funny as they think they are. It’s pity laughs most times
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316 Men's mental health is so often igonred in today's society. He has a lot of problems. That doesn't mean it's a good excuse to be an asshole. But one should take a moment before condemning him. He is a depressed alcoholic craving any kind of validation. He wants to feel like he's not such a failure. He wants to feel loved. And he does every shitty thing to get that feeling. He will lie, cheat, manipulate, gaslight... anything just to get some "love". It's sad I think. I'm not happy about his torment.
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316 Pity laughs has also made them on such a high horse that some think that women aren't as funny as them lol.
@@Ilivedbih fr
When I watched this speech it tricked me into feeling bad for him even though I felt like I shouldn’t, then my friend went through all the things he had done during the series and I remembered why he was a bad guy.
He's not a bad guy! He just have a bad personality
@@iris6068 lol
"I'm not a bad guy, I just have a bad personality"
that one hit home too close
Haha yeah... I've been on both sides of this scenario and neither is good... 🫂
why do i know his speech by heart
....You went through it?
@@idonteatspiders2986 yeah, it's so pathetic i love it
I can’t believe that the actor who played Martin appeared in stranger things as Murray .
Her "fuck you" was stronger than everything he spoke
If I needed an example of gas lighting this would be it
Yep, the most messed up thing about it it's that is almost endearing.
How is it gaslighting if this is the first time hes being sincere? Hes not being deceitful, hes just telling her how he feels, and then he accepts her choice. How can that be gaslighting???
@@pepperpattynaise He is blaming his douchebaggery on her; she doesn't understand that he is not a bad person, is just he has a bad personality, she "likes" him like that. Instead of owning the wanting nature of his behaviour he is dumping the blame on her.
@@pepperpattynaise I think we’re reading this scene very differently. I take this to be Martin’s last ditch attempt at persuading Claire to stay with him. He details all of these things he does for her as if they are Herculean tasks and then blames the rest of the bad things he does on having a shitty personality. It reveals he is aware he is a horrible person and he doesn’t even want to put in work to be better. Essentially, he’s trying to guilt her into feeling sorry for him and tries to gaslight her into thinking that she is still in love with him. He then says the only way he would leave her is if she does something he believes she would NEVER do (grovel on her knees infront of him) since she is an extremely prideful person. This scene is so great because she doesn’t accept his speech and puts aside her pride to do what she knows is right but will be more difficult for her. Being happy without Martin is a more difficult choice than just staying with him and being unhappy.
Well it's a terrible example of gaslighting so you should look for a better example. Gaslighting is making you question objective facts.
"That dress was green." - Fact
"Don't be silly, you're misremembering, that dress was blue." - Lie
That's gaslighting. That's it. Now someone who gaslights a partner is obviously gonna be very likely abusive in other ways, but that doesn't make all those other abusive behaviors gaslighting. And ironically, misattributing other abusive behaviors as this particular one based on an old film based on an old play just makes it easier for abusers to manipulate their partners.
Not to mention all the things labeled as "abusive" now by internet psychologists that are actually just crappy behavior that everyone is guilty of at some point in their lives, especially in moments of inevitable conflict with a partner who is also imperfect and capable of crappy behavior, and are generally forgivable as long as you both take responsibility and make concrete efforts to improve.
I know half of that was irrelevant and this character is an asshole, but words mean things and obscuring those meanings makes it more difficult for people being victimized by these behaviors to actually break through the cycle of abuse and seek help.
*You know, it's funny; when you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.*
brilliant writing
I almost cried. great acting.
Comment from an American living in Britain.....everyone in thr UK really does have an alcohol problem.
It'd be more accurate to say alcohol has a UK problem.
Hic
Heh heh heh
That’s not even the bare minimum for a married person
I love the use of "Kneel" here
Makes me wonder if it's drawing some parallel with the earlier scene of the priest telling fleabag to kneel in the confession booth
@@itayschool4544 oh it absolutely is
That kneel got me so bad 😂
Bad people and bad personality is the same thing. If you know you have a bad personality don't just use it as a reason but change your personality
i hate this character so much and somehow felt sorry for him here. great writing and acting!
Fleabag's face at 1:18 🤣
Why is no one talking about, “I am nOAHhahttT”. One of the shows funniest moments and so subtle
I just realized claire wanted fleabag to stay bc on some level she was worried that martin might get physical with her
I just realized Martin was okay with Fleabag staying so he'd have a witness because he was worried claire might leverage a fake domestic abuse allegation against him.
@@robocat9x why would she ?
@@robocat9x bruh what?!
Am I wrong?? If I am please let me know. I'll wait.
@robocat9x yeah, cause he is the one that historically lied about being sa'd
Later he met Christinith and lived happily ever after as a c * old.
arnie palms, arnie palms
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
"YOU GET MY WIFE'S NAME RIGHT!!"
@@auroralee3934 "Hey, come back here and fuck my wife!"
@@danieldutot8847 BEEyoo. BEEyoo. BEEyoo. BEEyoo
You know this show has great writing when a hated character starts to be 3-Dimensional. While yes, I can sympathize for his character but it doesn't mean it is excuseable. But I do feel sad for him, he did try in his own way to make her feel good, however their relationship was doomed right from the get-go, they're fundamentally too different people.
And my take on this is a bit of a double standards. Yes, fleebag is an enjoyable character in contrast to Martin, but she is definitely worse. She cheated on her best friend's partner which caused her to commit suicide.
I don't see it as gaslighting, or a desperate attempt to win back Claire. I think its quiet pent up rage that he kept in the course of their relationship as Claire's disgust towards him is palpable but he chose to quietly acknowledge it.
It's still his mistake however for not choosing to become a better husband for her, atleast we see Fleebag tries to change for the better.
Me parte la cabeza, me encanta
"I bet because I have this beard you think I'm really hairy.
but... I'm not...
.
.
.
shaaaaveddd..."
All this speech and all I can think about is I am too much like my personality is too much so even if I am not an alcoholic I still relate
I can only see Murray from stranger things lol
I hated his character but I think he might be onto something when he said that some people aren’t bad people, they just have bad personalities.
Meh not really. Your character is formed by your actions. Your morals and beliefs guide these actions. If you have bad character then you have a bad personality, which is his own doing. Keep doing shitty things and you are going to be a bad person. People like this always make roundabout explanations to not take accountability. It’s pretty simple, he’s just a terrible person.
@@Aileenwasright i definitely agree with you, obviously he’s an immature person but I do agree to an extent that some people aren’t bad or evil people, they just have a bad personality.
I can see where you are coming from too. Not to cancel out that it's still not good enough to be a bad husband just because you have a bad personality. The key is taking responsibility. However, I do see how some people can be unpleasant/ difficult whatever and not necessarily be downright evil or bad people.
@@emmagbates Exactly, thank you! It’s not an excuse for him to be shitty and honestly, the fact that he’s self aware kind of makes it worse because they means he knows he a shitty person and does nothing to stop it, but people try so hard to find labels for all bad people in their lives; narcissist, psychopaths, sociopaths and I think it’s important to remember that not all bad people are narcissists or have something wrong with them, sometimes they’re just assholes. It doesn’t make them evil, it just makes them mean and annoying.
@s really well said! I would completely agree and it's such an interesting point about labels! I feel like with society placing so much importance on ideas of toxicity and like you say psychopaths, narcissists etc I find a lot of people are blindly calling any perosn that when maybe they simply don't like them or they are just not the right person for them. And there's nothing wrong with that. As far as this character I thought he was an arsehole but he was funny to watch so you know, a little from column A, a little from column B! 😂
I cackled when she begged him to leave her
So this is what Murray did before he moved to Hawkins.
fleabag being in the room with a glass of wine reminds me of when my friend was talking to her lawyer outside law office about leaving her husband and i was just there supporting her, eating french fries.
Fleabag deserves a proper Apology from Claire
please 🙏🏻 leave me 😑
Isn't this the guy from the "Love" Netflix series with Gillian Jacobs? The radio-host pseudodoctor. This dude was great there and here he seems like he's going all in into that same character.
Yup. He like playing asshole characters ig
Also plays a sleazy doctor on the Netflix movie Metal Lords, is one of the main characters dads
@@Eraziels and as it turns out, this voice was sounding so familiar for a reason. He plays a furiously fuckin' great role of Myc the Mushroom in the Inside Job!
Mr Girl moment.
holy shit youre right!
Ain’t no way y’all so sympathetic for Martin lmao
This show seems sort of intriguing. What's it about?
God, I wish I could erase Fleabag from my mind and watch it for the first time all over again 😂 It's about a dysfunctional English woman who keeps fucking up her life, in ways that are funny and charming but also very dark and sad. The first season is good, the second season is great. Even if you don't love it for whatever reason you could probably watch the whole thing in a day, it's that short
A story of one brave man trying to live his truth while navigating social circles mired in toxic femininity
@@robocat9x get off the internet and go take care of your creepy son, Martin
It’s fantastic. I definitely recommend.
@@Chibbykinsyes! The second season is sooo good and very touching. The first season is necessary to understand and enjoy the second season but it may take a bit to really get into it.
This is the best depiction of a gaslighter and abuser.
Brave man.
TBH Fleabag admitted to doing worse things than he ever did, I don't really get how people hate him so much when they can cheer on fleabag. Divorce is for the best though, he is clearly very sad with Claire and Claire is sad with him.
Murray from Stranger Things lol
This show was very dissapointing but I loved this, it's actually very realistic 🤣🤣 he's such an unbearable incel, how they ever stayed married is an actual miracle.
disappointing?
Wohow, I would gladly hear the expectations you brought with yourself watching this series. They must be over the Moon if Fleabag is disappointing for your.
@@Girl95szia Pressed L spotted
@@Girl95szia I personally found every character extremely difficult to relate to. I don't get what they are about at all.
@@RevolutionaryLoser well, and i don't mean for this to sound insulting, but how could you relate to them? the show at its core is about broken women and the men in it are only there to push the plot forward. it's about broken women and their relationships with men, father figures, trauma, their work, feminism & each other. you aren't really meant to relate to the men since they're just plot devices for the women at the end of the day. it's a show that is overwhelmingly about fractured womanhood, so not everyone is going to relate. but it can be good and still not be relatable. not everything that exists to be consumed exists just to be projected on by anyone who comes across it
When women write men in movies..
@@sparkie4604 why?
It's a tv show...
@@Isabelle-hv6ny oh my god. im so sorry. youre right. ill delete this stupid comment right away ma'am
Im pretty sure most viewers found Godmother to be just as despicable as Martin
its usually based on men they know
Least woke show
anime pfp
what does this even mean
Conservatives add "woke" to so much stuff that the word just becomes meaningless
@@superwhizz114 If I could define what a woke show would be, it would be one where the main character is cool with being called a slut and the happy ending for one girl is a divorce. Also, conveniently, a dude with an anime girl as his profile is exactly who I think would calling things woke without knowing what it means.
@@sws212 Don't need to worry about divorces, you're probably never getting married anyway
MDE NEVER DIES, BRETT GELMAN WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR 40,000 DOLLARS
I love Fleabag just being there like: 👁👄👁 🍸