JEEP LIBERTY KJ VS JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE WK/ OFF ROAD DUAL TO THE DEATH!/ The winner is SHOCKING! EP34
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- JEEP BATTLE ROYAL! Two Jeeps drive into an Off Road Park to go Head to Head. Only one Drives Out! Duel to the Death! I made up a few challenges last minute to compare the Turlo’s Garage Jeep Liberty to the Turlo’s Garage Jeep Grand Cherokee. I also looked up a few stats to decide which vehicle is better. There is one very clear winner and it may surprise you or maybe not. Let the Jeep Off Road Games Begin!
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Other Music By: Andy Turlo - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Sweet!
I mean you can drive any car like an idiot and you'll kill it...
Absolutely! I am aiming for a lot more idiotic automotive stunts in 2021!
I bought an '05 Liberty 2 years ago. Pulls my boat up and down the hills just fine and is fairly simple to do basic repairs & maintenance on. It even flattened a coyote at 65 mph with little more than a cracked bumper cover.
Just bought an 05 Liberty with Diesel engine. This thing is a beast and sounds like thunder! Absolutely love it.
Nice. I like the Diesel engines.
I didn't know they had a diesel option. That's pretty cool.
In regards of the jeep liberty towing, my Ford Expedition was down and I had to make a trip from Huntsville TX to Sioux Falls SD and then to deep in the hills of Ohio, 06 jeep liberty I picked up a 6' mowing deck in Sioux Falls and then picked up a front mower john deere 1435 with a deck, so that's 4500lbs for the jeep, trailer 1700lbs, the deck 560lbs and the mower was 2500lbs, that's a total of 9260lbs on a 9500lbs maximum gvwr with a jeep that has 340k miles on a original tranny and engine at 70mph, I'd say that was a test of a true mini giant. That jeep is my tool car and those wondering what fuel mileage was, it was average of 14 mpg for the whole trip.
My friend have WK with turbo diesel engine and Quadra-Drive, 2 inch lift and 32s. Very capable 4x4!
They do really well as long as you don’t have a 5.7 HEMI that gets flooded.
I got the 4.7 with QDII and its cheating lol cause I pulling trucks twice my size out of sand mud rocks its the best offroad mom van ever
Mom van 🤣🤣🤣👍
@@TadiclsOperator just don’t go through water without a snorkel. Or maybe it’s me and Jeeps and water don’t mix.
@@TurlosGarage I've been in water level with my hood a few times but I've been lucky so far, but water proving the computers and snorkel are on the list of priorities
Wow, pretty awesome. You really sent it with that Liberty!
😂 it was a lot of fun! That Liberty has been indestructible even after I put it together haphazardly. Still solid, reliable, and cheap! Did you see what I did to the Celica in the FWD drift video?
AWESOME VIDEO!
great video mate, haha great to see some fun and mud
Thanks. It was a lot of fun. We actually got lost for a few minutes in some of the trails in the woods.
@@TurlosGarage hey Mate that's just part of the fun. I've gotten lost exploring new water holes in my local trails. Always a fun day playing in the mud
A lot of comments on the Liberty’s capability off road. Should I make a video and go more in depth? Most the people that have commented know more than I do about these Jeeps, and probably driving off road.
Short Cut - That Trail Rated badge means something. Go find out what that is :-)
Congrats on 900 SUBSCRIBERS! You earned it!
Thanks Brother! You’re growing quicker than me! I am looking for a 1,000 follower live stream from you!
@@TurlosGarage Thanks bro! I appreciate that! Lol! 😂 I still think that you might hit 1k quicker! I guess will c! Grind on brotha! 👍💪💯🤙
With the kj ya have to keep revs on for lsd to lock in properlh
Something going on with your rear end. No limited slip? I have a liberty on 33s and the slightest slip both rear tires turn. Liberty needs a driver mod....
Damn y’all beat the hell out of those Jeep’s lol very nice.
That’s what they are for! Great seeing you here Thanks for stopping by!
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
Love my 2007 Liberty.
me too, drive like a little bull !
the one in video is not 2007 model , seems less power than mine
New Subscriber here. I have two 2003 Jeep Liberty's one of which I bought with a blown engine. I'm using it for body parts. Liberty's most two important things to upgrade are a bigger 4 core radiator and a good transmission cooler. Our little Liberty has been a great 4wd that goes awsome in snow.
Welcome aboard Mechanic Steve! Thanks for the advice. I have a lot of passionate Liberty owners that follow the channel. In the past year my 02 Liberty has really grown on me and I am very impressed with the value of the Liberty. Thanks for Subscribing and watching!
Is it true that the diesel and petrol have different 4wd systems? I’m in the UK and deciding which one to get. Petrol has a proper transfer box whereas the diesel has front and rear separately?
@@johnnon6583 I am not sure. That is a great question!
Liberty 2006. Has a tranny oil cooler..
I grew up in Michigan and always kept a small light 4x4 for winter. S10, explorer, jeep Cherokee...... Those light short wheel base 4x4s do great in the snow.
I’ve been using a Jeep Liberty as a field car for 2 years now and they are crazy off-road I’ve jumped it multiple times and it still is strong
My 02 has been solid. I keep waiting for it to fall apart since I fixed it and then beat on it. Just keeps going.
Totalmente de acuerdo
What is the difference between the 2002 and 2007 Liberty models, and is there a difference between them and the Liberty Ranged, and which one is better? Thank you?
I am not exactly sure. I think mostly the body design was changed a little. There is a Liberty Renegade that had some off road extras.
i have the ’07 3.0l diesel with QD2. great car have taken off road in AZ - no issues…. 170,000 miles and going strong
I have a friend that bought an 06 CRD Grand Cherokee a few months ago and it has been great. I am very impressed with the 4x4 system in these Jeeps.
I’m here with you now 🙌🏻great video
Thanks Sally! You and Paul have some awesome content! Love the videos!
@@TurlosGarage thank you 😊 we appreciate that… as you do🏁 I look forward to seeing more
Daaaaang that looks like a fun spot!!!!!
I haven’t been there for a few years now. Might be time for another trip.
Wait, you can't lock the diffs on libert? Is that true for the CRD model as well?
I found out that was an option. Some had electronic locking diffs some did not. I am not sue if that was something standard on the CRD models.
That "Trail Rated" badge means something. Do your homework then wheel a Libby with the badge (and the right tires). Big dif!
You can install a locker in the c8.25, I ran a rear 8.25 in my old yj and installed a arb locker. I just built up a kj and will install a lunchbox locker in it.
The liberty will match almost every rig if you give it a decent set of tires.... the "off road test" was a terrible display (first few mins)
That Jeep Liberty wasn’t even Trail rated. The Jeep Grand Cherokee was.
I own both a kj and a WK would take the liberty off road anytime before the grand cherokee
I have to agree with the comment on BETTER tires on the Libbey...From experience when switched from Wranglers SR-A to Falken A/t3w, it was an impressive big difference between the two tires how it handled offroad Mud and 6inches of snow.
I've also owned both a GC and Libbey...and i agree GC is way more comfortable, but i found the Libbey more easier to steer and handle .
Liberty is not a very capable offroader! AT ALL!
@@EricJohnson-tb9sj not sure why you say that.... My liberty has followed fully built jeep wranglers and done just fine.... I've gone through mud holes deeper then the top of the fender flares... It's done fine. They are actually very very very capable off road
Good video! 🇺🇸 . Nothing like a little Jeepin
Especially when you hydrolock the engine and break the number 8 Rod while doing it! That is the results of too much fun! 🤘
Thanks man for subscribing to my channel! I appreciate it! Puts me over the 50 subs mark! Thanks again!👍💯💯💯
Thanks for watching. Hopefully I can catch your next milestone live stream!
@@TurlosGarage ok!
Jeepvember just took a turn for the worst! Now I have a Dead Jeep!
Did it ever get fixed?
@@allenbrannan2001 still broken! Two used engines and I think I am almost ready to put it back together with some surprises.
Hello ! Funny video !!!! I like . Thank you ! And greetings from Russia from our club of wk jeep owners
Thank You Very Much for watching! Don’t go through a pond without a snorkel if you have a 5.7. Hopefully will have my WK running again soon.
Awesome video
Thanks for watching. Anything you would like to see in future episodes?
@@TurlosGarage 2x4 to a 4x4 conversion!
I pulled a buried 4WD Kubota with a bush hog implement still attached out with my liberty. Libertys are very capable little Jeeps. They almost remind you on the old school Cherokee with the inline 4.0.
I have had a lot of people tell me the KJ’s are going to replace the XJ as they are starting to become more valuable and harder to find.
@@TurlosGarage I agree. Some of the KJ's are like bulletproof and will definitely be around. They can be expensive to maintain but if they are treated well and maintained, they are worth every penny. They are easily as capable as a land rover if they are set up properly. They're quite dependable and very good for treks. Like you said, just gotta keep an eye on the overheating.
You got a video of that also.
We would love to see that.
Just like my friends would like to see that 40 pound perch fish I cought last Friday. Lmfao
The Liberty replaced the Cherokee XJ in the US. In other countries where the Liberty was sold, it was still called a Cherokee.
that was a good comparison
It was fun to make. Not fun to get the Durand Cherokee home with a broken engine. HaHa
Fun video and a fun place to drive..
It was a fun day of filming. I had been there once before but had no idea how big the place was. We got lost on some of the trails and had to make a u turn a few times.
I just bought a 2005 keep liberty with a 3.7 liter engine at almost 200,000 miles . It was sitting up for a few months and I paid 500 for it . It runs and drives for what I’ve seen the 20 mins I drove it . Any tips for maintaining it and what I should do now to make sure it’s serviced properly? Thanks in advance 🙂
The best tips I can give you are keep the fluids changed especially the motor oil. If you are late on oil changes you may end up with carbon deposits restricting oil flow to important parts. The other thing is Do Not let it get Hot! And I mean if that temp gauge gets to 3/4 to the H, shut it down immediately. Those engines have a habit of dropping valve seats if they get hot. That is what happened to mine and why I got it cheap. In fact at 150,000 miles it had happened twice and the previous owners had enough. I hope this helps! 👍
Thanks so much
@@drizzygoingreen3539 Rust take care off // and differential gear oils change too. Too many dont, then they winne about it breaking down. I have a limited 2007/
Wow.. The liberty does not have rear posi-trac. It is an open or limited diff. I'll stick with a good ole' WJ with lunchbox lockers on 32's and a 3-inch lift.
There were different options. I have a 2006 Liberty with Command Trac 4x4 and in Low it would Easily traverse what was in this video.
just bought the updated version of the liberty. its still a monster just like my 03 is.
Sounds nice, They are surprising!
I think what went wrong was you went threw the water . LoL 😂
🤣 yep, a little too deep and a little too fast. I just got that engine back together an in the Jeep a couple of months ago. Still a few item to finish up and try again. 🤣
I just lifted my jeep today gained a lot of room, going to see what it can do really soon. New everything in the front, JBA upper control arms, 3 inch budget boost, lower control arms, 2 inch wheel spacers, 3 inch magniflow, exhaust (shop did exhuast), catback, ball joints tie rod ends, struts, pod lights, spark plugs, throttle body, spacers, egr valve. took me 22 hours lmao...if you lift it either give yourself a couple days or a day at least..for the lift... Really impressed with the height gains..
Thanks. I have planned on doing a lift for several months but something always happens, or breaks in my other cars. I want to build my own control arms.
@@TurlosGarage whats up i jist finished mine about 6 hrs ago..i posted a video ....go check it out..oh..hey mine is actually 2.25. Suspension leveling kit about 135 bucks online. .It raised my front two fists horizontally higher..thank god because its 2.25 a 3 inch budget lift wont fit...the cv axle in front will either hit the clevis or lower control arm where the lump is at where the clevis bolt goes into the lower control arm..also the cv joints will pull out and the angle is more than 30 degrees...make sure it doesnt measure more than the 2.25 on the front my rear is the same and is no where as high as the front.but the cv axle boot is really close...so i got to get new springs and black max shocks by skyjacker..cheapest or budget friendly..took me a while and a sore body and mainly 15 mm 18 mm 10.. 19mm 21 .. and 36 mm axle nut socket..breaker bar and torque wrench..adjustable wrench , pb blaster, thick skin, brused hands and knuckles and a partrage in a pair tree
@@redhandedreviews3482 that sounds like a party! I will check out your video.
I liked your WARNING LABEL in the beginning! Thought that was pretty funny! Your Narration of this epic is amazing! You are a great narrator! Wow! It was interesting to see you ROCKING that Liberty in the mud puddles like that. You were literally ROCKING IT! So happy to see your wife participating like that! Great choice of music. I am really enjoying your narration skills. That makes all the difference to help move the story along. Oops -- your forgot your take measuring stick/tape? (Chris at C and C Autoworks is also a great narrator.) I am enjoying seeing the differences between these two vehicles--the pros and cons of each. Wow! This is a great video! No wonder you have almost 55,000 views since November 8 of last year. Great Job! Wow! Ruthie B. Howard 10.19.21 I just became your 903rd subscriber.
Thank You Ruthie B! I have learned a lot from each video. This was fun to make and we had a good time as a family taking a little off road trip although my wife was not happy about breaking the engine of the Grand Cherokee. I am still working on getting it fixed. Chris at C&C does some great videos too.
@@TurlosGarage I am so happy that you can have fun with your wife like that! That is truly important. And yes! Mr. Chris puts out some great videos, too! I watch many of his -- and he supports our channel, too! Glad that we are all interconnected with some of the same channel. I like that. Have a great day! Ruthie B. Howard 10.19.21
Really love your videos. 🤣🤣 I'm currently rebuilding my own project '06 Liberty 3.7, 4x4. Fun little vehicle.
They are a lot of fun. Not too bad to work on, easy to find parts. They come as capable off road vehicles but a few mods and they are impressive.
I have the same view towards off-roading as I do track thrashing, if you're gonna do it, go full on, but expect the worst. If you manage to drive how, bonus! lol. My first thoughts are, water in the intake, then the piston tried to compress it. Could be bent con-rods, cracked pistons, pretty much trashed engine, lol. Sorry dude. I know a guy working on a Hemi, lol.
Super Excited to find out. Several HEMIs in the Junkyard for a couple of hundred dollars. And I gained a lot of potential content. Hopefully I at least get some subscribers out of this. 😀
I just hydro locked an explorer 2 weekends ago leaving the desert from a shooting trip. Bent 2 rods and cracked 1 piston Wich tore that cylinder up real bad🤕
Team Grand Cherokee! ✊.
05-10. not the new ones
Almost got this one back together. More Grand Cherokee adventures coming later this year!
This is nice to know I have a Jeep Liberty nice to hear this I like mine
Mine is still going strong!
I think my 06 KJ Diesel with traction control would out perform both.
No doubt about it!
Any 5.7 Hemi’s in the Junkyard?
What happened? Crack the block?
"It bottomed out a little bit" I'm sure standing on the throttle had nothing to do with it
Maybe that had something to do with it.
I love my jeep liberty. I’ve rolled it on an icy road and that rig protected me from getting seriously hurt and was able to drive it back home after the roll over. Today we are using it as a mud rig as it’s not road legal.
That is Awesome!
Stuck in Park as a result of wading through a puddle lol
The shift cable came out of the bracket on the transmission. I clipped it back in and no matter how hard I pulled it would not come out again. LOL
I have a 2004 liberty renegade, and it’s got a locker in the rear. I’ve taken that rung everywhere.
I think if my Liberty had a locker it would go anywhere.
@@TurlosGarage Is it only the renegade model that has this on the liberties?
@@chancepennington6653 I have been told some do some don’t. I have not really dug into it. I plan on opening the rear differential in my Liberty in the bit too distant future to see what is in there.
I subscribed great video I have a green 2007 Jeep Liberty
Thanks for subscribing. I have a Liberty RallyCross video coming up and working on a Urban Stealth Camping video with the homemade roof top tent. Welcome and I hope you enjoy.
@@TurlosGarage thank u and your welcome I will post a video tomorrow with my jeep and show u
Should call this channel "Jeep Raggin'" !!! Lol.🤪Damn you drive em rough huh bro?
It’s a Jeep, they are meant to be driven rough. Just not under water. 😁
@@TurlosGarage agreed. I like to see y'all push them so I know how far NOT to push mine. Lol. It's awesome man. Been off-roading here in Louisiana for decades. I used to drive a CJ7 with a small block and 38 Super Swampers. It made short work of most mudholes. Now I'm driving a liberty and looking into modifying it. Gotta swap left front axle first.
Hey quick question:
Someone near me is sellling his 2004 Jeep Liberty Sport 4WD with only 18,600 miles (yes, 18,6k) for $2,600 usd. His wife passed away and he is looking to get rid of it. Is it a good deal? The exterior looks very good.
Thanks!
If its legit; an excellent deal! I bought an 04 liberty limited, 3 weeks ago, with 97000 miles, from a used car dealer, for quite a bit more than 2600. Be careful buying. Lots of scammers out there!
@@aaronrainey788 Yes, thanks for your answer!
My 02 had been great. 2600 seems too cheap with only 18,600 miles but I can’t answer if it is a good deal or not. If you want a Jeep that does everything good and are looking for a Liberty that seems like the one to get. Hard to answer from a distance.
NO ITS A BAD DEAL.
Give me the guys ph number willya ;-)
What year is the Liberty?
2002. Not as new or as nice as yours.
That's not a trail rated liberty
It is not. It does do very good for what it is and I would take it over the Grand Cherokee.
@@TurlosGarage True I have the renegade one with 240 original miles on still going strong. Also I have hated side by sides and snowmobiles no problem
Did that grand cherokee hydro lock???
Yes it did. I have a few videos tearing the engine down. Number 8 cylinder has problems. A bent valve and most likely a broken rod.
does the WK have the QDII system?
Yes
If it does it would have a rear auto locking differential. The Liberty has a limited slip differential, not a posi-trac as they were trying to call it....and the limited slip is an option not a standard feature and doesn't look like it had a limited slip, or it was worn out...in a straight line it'll act like a locker, when you turn it'll release the clutch packs in the differential to allow different speeds for cornering.
If you really want the best Quadra-Drive system you want a Jeep Grand Cherokee from 1999-2004...in those years the quadra-drive gave you visco-locking front and rear differentials. From 2005 on the "Quadra-Drive" only gives you a rear auto-locker.
Cool beans
Hey I’ve got just got a couple questions if you or anyone could answer but I may have a 07 Liberty 4wd come into my life soon for about 1000$ and it’s from a family friend who’s trust worthy and it was just a old highschool car. She said it drives strong and shifts well and only has 130000 or so miles on it and the 4wd doesn’t work currently but otherwise drives fine and just needs new tires. Are there any weak points in the transmission or 3.7 v6 that’s in it? Transfer cases and driveshafts are easy enough repairs for me but I don’t feel like dealing with a blown trans or thrown rod... of course as soon as I get the vehicle I’ll change all the fluids from the diffs to windshield wiper fluid but it does seem as if the 07s are much more reliable then the 06s because of the improvements made to the engine and the noticeable 60hp gain
Good question. There should be someone on here that can answer that. I don’t have any experience with an 07.
@@TurlosGarage Thanks for the response! I found out I won’t have to worry about thrown rods much because part of the improvements done to the engine between 06 and 07 is forged connecting rods:) Little bit of a relief but I’ve heard of others having problems with the coolant system and head gaskets... coolants quick and easy enough for me but I’ve done 2 heads since March 2020 and I don’t feel like doing another till 2022 when I have my own shop space and tools...
@@georgep-v9005 sounds good! 👍
Yay I won the Jeep off!!! 😂
I love my limited 2007 w 3.7 engine. Looks almost like a 4 door Wrangler but cost me only one third. LOL.. Mine has only 84k miles in nov 2022. I took care of the underrust well.
My 2002 Liberty is at almost 200,000 miles and still unstoppable! 84,000 miles is like new still!
@@TurlosGarage I have sunroof, side air bags, leather seats, came also with 17" rims, not 16". Has all, except on dash GPS. Only 2,700 dollars i paid in 2021. Paint is still good. Tires are mid wear. Drives like new. Gas is not that bad. I get 20 mpg combined. Looks almost like a Wrangler, cost like a cheap car..
@@CFITOMAHAWK Do you have the Trac lok rear axle? That make a huge difference, off roading, rally racing etc
@@TurlosGarage Oh yes.. But it is a combination of electronic and some small clutches in the spyder gear passenger side unit. Electronics brake the speediing wheels if they overspeedand slip, the clutches slow that tire down too as they heat up when wheel overspeed . So it is an E-Limited Slip Diff.
I rebuilded the difff myself along with a friend that knows how to better than me. Previous owner was using it with low gear oil due a seal leak.
Use the Slick 50 with thick fluid, it works on old gears and diffs.
my 06 liberty is the base rwd version and it refuses to die.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I originally did not want a Liberty. All I could find was bad reviews. But I have to say it has been one of the best vehicles I have owned. I have done a lot with this one and it keep going without any problems!
@@TurlosGarage no problem, and same! I got mine from my cousin for cheap which is the only reason I got it, but I'm glad I did cuz this thing keeps chuggin, not bad for offroad even though its only rwd
Well you basically speedran that Cherokee and crawled as slow as possible on the liberty. The cherokee bottomed out at the end because of the force of it being slammed against the ground with that much speed. Whereas, the Liberty was slowly placed into a horrible spot. You can't expect this to be a fair comparison if your testing methods are flawed.
Absolutely, but it was a lot of fun!
@@TurlosGarage 😂😂😂 that's funny. You should change your name and make it Totals Garage.
@@sasquatchexperience5994 I almost got the Grand Cherokee back together. Next stop, nitrous!
@@TurlosGarage That would be AWESOME. Can you imagine off road with that 😂😂😂😂.
More data please, like specifically which year and trim is the KJ and which is the Grand Cherokee, I know the liberties come in And have a few different transfer case options, and my Liberty does have ESP, which is extremely helpful in comparison to my older Liberty but this is the 2007 limited model, and on that I have the command track case, it's got the four-wheel drive full-time option which is apparently usable on dry road, so that's definitely better than delivery you're using which seems like a base model perhaps with a rudimentary transfer case, strange to me to see the two front wheel spinning but no action from the rear but that was because one rear was spinning I imagine . I don't know what kind of differential on the rear I have but where I would become stuck previously with my 2004 Liberty I could easily push through with The ESP which blinks a light when it's being used it's also got a electric throttle which is strange to me, but also what model And you're for your Cherokee?She over 05, I did not know Jeep made an all-wheel drive option or system, most of the time I think of all wheel drive is all wheel BS.. either it's not real like on the Ford escape 2007, or it's always on and causes damage and extra wear like Saturn Vue AWD, these are my two favorite Jeeps you got right now the 2012 and up Jeeps are nice and by Jeeps I mean the Cherokee, but I wouldn't buy one past or 14 or 15..
If your Liberty has full and part time 4WD, its Selec-Trac not Command-Trac. Command-Trac system has 2WD, 4WD Part Time, and Low Range. Selec-Trac has 2WD, 4WD Part Time, 4WD Full Time, and Low Range....both have neutral.
The Jeep full time 4WD system has changed over the years. It used to actually be true full time 4WD, where power was sent to the front axle all the time regardless of traction conditions. The newer models starting in 1999 went to the NP247 transfer case which diverted power to the rear wheels during normal driving, and when low traction conditions were detected it would then start to send power to the front, and could send 100% of the power to the front wheels if needed. Prior to 1999 they used the NP249 transfer case in the Quadra-Trac models which sent 48% power to the front and 52% power to the rear during normal driving, but could vary the output depending on conditions. I had the 1996 Grand Cherokee with Quadra-Trac, that thing did awesome in the snow/ice, and I took it offroad a lot and never had issues getting stuck, the 4WD system would figure it out and you'd just keep on going. The downfall to the NP249 transfer case was it had a viscous coupler in the transfer case that varied the power going to the front axle, over time that viscous coupler would wear out, normally after around 150,000 miles or so....once that happened you went from full time 4WD, to more of a part time 4WD as the viscous coupler would fail in the engaged 50/50 torque split and during tight turns it would cause wheel hop and drive train binding. my 96 Grand Cherokee amazingly made it to 232k before the viscous coupler failed...and at that time I didn't know I could have simply swapped in an NP242 or NP231 transfer case and kept on going.
The NP231 transfer case is Command-Trac part time 4WD only. The NP242 transfer case is Selec-Trac full and part time 4WD. Both the NP247 and NP249 are both the Quadra-Trac Transfer case. What gives you the Quadra-Drive system in 1999-2004 the front and rear differentials had vari-lock differentials allowing full lock up of the differential if necessary and they were automatic, and hydro-mechanical....in 2005 and newer Quadra-Drive models they only have a rear locking differential and the front is an open differential and they use the ABS system to modulate brake application to trick the front differential into sending power one way or the other for added traction....it just wears out your brake pads much quicker LOL.
Most automatic 4WD systems, and AWD systems are reactive rather than pro-active, so they engage after you've already lost traction, rather than being live all the time providing you varying amounts of traction/stability regardless of road conditions. Subaru's AWD system is on all the time and sends power to all 4 wheels in varying amounts depending on many variables.
My 05 limited has a 2" lift and 33s. It doesn't have as much suspension flex as I'd like. So it may not be real graceful but it has the power and clearance to go anywhere I'll put it. I like dirt bikes, hunting in the Arizona mountains, and shooting sports so I find myself in some questionable spots. I'll say it does better off-road than my 2000 Z71 Silverado also on 33s. 👍🇺🇲
I was very impressed on how this does off road. Engine is going back in and together. I hope to have it back on the road soon.
@@TurlosGarage I actually overheated mine real bad last week. It was 115 here in Tucson so when the heater hose broke it was real hot before I noticed it. So I guess now I'll have a chance to freshen this thing up while I have the heads off it. 👍👎😁😢
That's shocking the jeep grand cherokee wk did that at the end I know the jeep grand cherokee wj is an excellent jeep just would have thought the next gen up would have been just as good.
I am heartbroken. I will tearing into the HEMI this weekend to find what happened. But there was a little water in the intake silencer so I am guessing it hydrolocked just enough to bend a rod? I am going to find out.
@@TurlosGarage I wouldn't doubt that's the cause great video!! 👍
@@FunandAutomotive Thank You! I appreciate it!
I’ve got a Liberty
Went though a deep puddle and it did the same as the grand
Check the cooler pipes
The Grand Cherokee ended up with a broken number 8 rod. I have bought two used engines and have enough parts to make one good one now. I have been working on getting it put back together. The Liberty has been solid though. Thanks for watching!
The liberty shines
The liberty does well on and off road
If I m going off road a lot I would go with a 3inch lift , mud terrain tires, change the gears and add lockers , heavy duty control arms,heavy duty ball joints ,a winch
Those are some heavy duty mods. That would make a capable off road machine.
Guy drives jeep into high water too fast and is wondering why it broke lol
YEA! Don’t try this at home. ⛔️⚠️
The Liberty has less rear wheel nuts to lol
Good weight reduction. I really am planning on fixing that one day.
I have a feeling that all the water messed up the electric hope a good dry out fixed it . I have a librery kk 2011 it's nice . Am comfy in it . I am 6 foot tall 240 pounds . My liberty has 4 wheel low that locks the front & back difs up . My dad had a 1948 willys cj 2b . Back then the jeep would go through anything however you may not unless you were tied in . Hope the wj was fixed easy
Still broken as of now. I now have 2 broken “good” used engines and the one that was in it. I think I have enough parts to make one good one. Not sure how long it will last because I am also adding a nitrous kit. It is going to be a fun year for Jeep stuff!
08:23 Water ingestion in engine air intake
Broke the Number 8 rod and bent the number seven. The Grand Cherokee’s air inlet is about the center of the grille while the liberty is on top of the radiator support. A few inches makes a huge difference sometimes. 👍
I own a Liberty( In Australia where I live it's called a cherokee sport) turbo diesel auto, that I lifted and front locked but parts are a huge problem, recently I had to replace the radiator, what an issue that was, couldn't find one in the whole world, eventually finding one 4,000km away in Victoria on the south east coast of Australia. My seats are leather and pretty comfortable.
I would like a diesel one someday. It sounds like you’ve got a nice Jeep!
"replace the radiator" Maybe, you need to change the cap of the radiator from 1.2 to 0.9. Maybe.
Was an interesting video. I can’t tell what’s going on with the microphone quality though, it sounds like you put some type of old timey effect on it. Not sure if that was on purpose or what but I have to wonder if it had a lot more clarity, these videos would be doing better!
I have some cheap microphones. Maybe one day I can afford some better video gear but I worry about taking expensive equipment and filming next to moving engine parts. The laptop I do editing on is 10 years old with not the greatest speakers either. I know I need to work on speaking more clearly as well. I am still new to You Tube and have a lot to improve. Thanks for watching and the suggestions. I appreciate it!
@@TurlosGarage Well your quality gotten normal there for a little bit I think whenever you switched to the phone. So why not just use your phone for the voice over then if it sounds better than a cheap microphone? You don’t have to spend a lot of money to get a decent microphone either, and I wouldn’t worry about having it around moving parts I mean don’t throw it in the engine or something LOL don’t put it anywhere you wouldn’t put your own phone. I think once your audio stops sounding like that, you’re going to see you much better audience retention and growth. They always say audio is the number one thing. Anyways yeah I saw your comment on Brian G and thought I would stop by. Hope you hit that 300k!
Thanks again for the advice. I will try that. Hopefully I get to 400,00 in a few years. My short term goal this month is to work on storytelling. Speaking clearly and having a clear engaging story to go with the automotive junk. Please tune in anytime for advice! I welcome any criticism to help my channel!
@@TurlosGarage Awesome! Also think about how interesting is the current section you are on? And editing you can work on shortening things up and tightening things up and analyzing what parts are boring therefore, what parts do you need to cut out or make shorter than the other parts. On my most successful video, my animal Crossing unboxings video, I spent a lot of time with the editing, actually adding up how much time I talked about each element. I questioned why some parts of boring stuff were just as long as the most interesting stuff. And I cut it down so that the boring parts were a fraction of time of the others. That way in the big picture, the video is focusing much more on the interesting stuff that I know people want.
@@switchunboxing Thanks. I have cut my videos down from 18-30 minutes to 10-15. I was putting together 20-30 minute videos because that is what I like to watch but my average view time is 7 minutes. The last couple of weeks I have started doing 2 10 minute videos instead of 1 20 minute video. My watch time per video is the same so I have actually doubled my watch time per episode by doing a 2 part video instead of 1 video.
This looked fun, until the Cherokee died!, better get some snorkels for those pond runs
Hey Bryan! Thanks for watching! Yeah, working on the HEMI tomorrow, in the rain. My HEMI Orange paint showed up so I can clean up the used replacement engine and get ready to swap it in.
I've towed 5,000 pounds with my Liberty without any issue. Not just around town, but on the freeway across multiple states.
Did you have a trailer brake? I have a trailer that is 5,000 lbs empty I might try and tow.
@@TurlosGarage I was towing with a U-Haul trailer, so it had surge brakes. I would not try and tow more than half the two vehicle's weight without trailer brakes. Well...in my youth I did try that, and was very lucky that I had room to pull onto the shoulder when I couldn't stop in time at a light on an expressway. My rig ended up stopping even with the front bumper of the other vehicle.
@@TurlosGarage diferential oil change. Never with bad oil,
LET’S GOOOOOOO LIBERTY FOR THE WIN!!! Thank god I own a 2004 Liberty
I never would have guessed the liberty.
It is cheap, easy to work on, easy to find parts for, does fairly good off road. While it is not the most comfortable thing to drive it is way more comfortable than your Wrangler. I am starting to think this may be the best value Jeep produced. It does a lot of things really good.
The exhaust tic drives me nuts. I will be fixing that very soon.
That would not have been my guess
Surprise! I think I will be looking for a cheap engine.
@@TurlosGarage what broke?
@@allenbrandon1031 something in the engine. It sounds like possibly a Rod Knock. I will dig in a little deeper this week.
Liberty has posi rearend???
Apparently some of them do. I think some kind of posi or locking differential in the rear would make the Liberty very capable off road.
I have to correct myself, there is some kind of posi in the rear. I can spin both rear tires when turning on wet asphalt. It is not enough for off roading. I think a locking rear differential would help but a lift kit that allows for more rear axle articulation would also be a benefit.
@@TurlosGarage well a couple of the guys say some of the have lo range 4wd and if thats the case then they should be very capable!
@@EricJohnson-tb9sj in the one year Liberty review video you can see the transfer case shifter at 4:20.
czcams.com/video/kwWY95RJPkg/video.html
It has 4lo
@@TurlosGarage BLD
I think you should build a House near this place and Make CZcams Videos here every day lol
Great idea!
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I love my Jeep’s. They are impervious to everything but my driving.
This is why it’s hard to find a decent running Jeep. They’re getting beat tf up
It makes the others more rare and valuable. This one was actually beat up when I started. The engine had some issues that probably would have done it in if I didn’t hydrolock it first. But it is going back together nicely and as soon as I get some good weather I can install the engine and the Nitrous Kit.
CAR guys coastal sent me good stuff👍
I like those guys! Thanks for commenting!
They shouldn't call these Jeeps 4x4 because they're not 4wd. They're all wheel drive.
man. just bought a mint 60kmiles 04JL. it will remain stock for the next 240k miles. u guys are nuts.
Jeeps are a lot of fun! The Liberty is still going strong.
@@TurlosGarage i cant its murder... its got factory tint man factory, loaded with crappy pixilated compass direction and cruise control that takes light years to catch up on hills and stuff. its got high beam safety feature so you cant engage it unless you hold it into place. all these kids, suspension lift here and there like making the plastic surgeon relevant when the goods are already solid. most im doing is getting undercoating on hur. no cherokee roof rail upgrade from the bone-yard, no KC led racks. NO headlight led i want the dull 2400k candles that make the road nearly invisible in bad weather. Man she's a legend, a LEGEND man. and think about allllllllll the beer money or pot for potty heads I will be saving by leaving hur stock. Its madness you young kids MADNESS>
@@DS-ju2sq That is Madness! Even stock the Liberty does amazing things off road! Rock On! 🤘
My Liberty is green I still like my Liberty as my first suv
I had a 04 liberty that I made a lift for and put 31s on it. To be honest I’d rather have a liberty over a Cherokee any day. If I can ver get another one I’m gonna do a solid axle in the front. Pretty sure that will make it almost unstoppable.
A solid front axle would be nice. I had planned on doing that originally but it has been fine with the independent front suspension so far.
Me whos too poor to get an old Cherokee and only has a kj: S a d n e s s
Go go liberty lol funny stuff
It does really well off road, and going to the mall. It is the best all around SUV I have owned so far.
I have an 07 liberty and it has no problem really, seems to spin all when in deep mud. Also play with the ebrake and brakes to send power to other wheels, old school off roading. With 4 snow tires on bad days I drive my liberty and leave my 2020 grand cherokee in the garage. I think it does better in deep snow.
I didn’t even think of using the ebrake! That is an excellent suggestion! I will try that next time.
@@TurlosGarage it works! Nice to see another liberty out playing. I think the liberty never got real respect out of the jeep community. It actually a great vehicle 125k moles on mine. A rotted trans line and 4 o2 sensors besides regular stuff. I'm driving mine until it drops and I don't see it soon!
The Liberty has been the best vehicle I have owned. I can’t think of another car that is more fun for the money. I am working on more Liberty content for 2021. Thanks for commenting!😁
@@TurlosGarage awesome, I'll subscribe to watch! Sadly today I had to have some work done. Been chasing a random P0300. Had 2 bad injectors, just replaced all 6 and runs like a champ today. It owes me nothing and 120k+ I'm sure it was due. If you or someone reading chasing a random misfire and fuel trims are all over replace injectors!
@@chuckstephan Good to know. My Liberty sat for a year when I got it so I expected to have a lot of problems. Amazingly the only issues I have had are due to my poor mechanic decisions. LOL. What does a 6 pack of injectors cost?
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I think that Jeep liberty might had benifited with some "Allterrain Tires"!
It could use better tires and the tires on it are one size smaller than the original ones. The previous owner said these were 20% less than the cheapest tires it was supposed to have. It still does great off road. And does not do bad every where else.
@@TurlosGarage ya for sure I mean most people would not attempt what you did with that thing!!! but it did fair pretty good
I really want to make another video like this but until the Grand Cherokee is fixed I can’t afford to break any more cars. I have been looking at cheap Cherokee XJ’s.
@@TurlosGarage It would be interesting to see what you could do with a liberity with just minor mods like the next phase just upgrade the tires to an allterrain and see what it does
putting up a basic sport trim level against a 5.7 is plain stupid
Totally Stupid. I still like the Liberty better. Even the basic Sport trim.
I have owned both and lifted both and the GC is much much better :) I also have videos of both off roading :D
Id like to see them.
@dentondunn4346 here is one I have a bunch in my older videos
@@dentondunn4346 czcams.com/video/ilPI5caavig/video.htmlsi=XQPwNyb0YtW1G_J1
There’s no way you didn’t flood that engine. And a hemi at that? Yikes.
Yup, killed cylinder number 8.
Why BLD isn't kicking in? Did you shut off Traction Control? If you did, BLD will not work and the car will stuck when a wheel is in the air, even while 4WD, exactly as depicted on the video beginning.
I own a Liberty. 2003 it’s been with me since then And will be with be till I die.
That is not the trail rated Liberty. There are differences between non trail rated models and models that are.
It is not trail rated but it does have a trac loc rear axle. It does fairly well but my guess is a about 180,000 it probably needs some clutches. It does amazing in the snow. I was pulling cars out all o we the place ( mostly Subaru’s) and nothing I did would stop it, other than ice, I did have some issues pulling a car out of a ditch while the road was covered in ice. Thanks for the comment, Rock on Jeffery! 🤘
If the wk had qd2 and didn't win its driver error
If the Liberty had sure grip it would have done a lot better.
It does have a trac lok rear differential. At almost 150,000 miles when I filmed that it was probably due for a rebuild to tighten it up a little. We raced the Liberty at a Rally Cross last year and the axle locks up good. A little brake and about 3/4 throttle and the Jeep pivots really well.
I have to debate the amount of storage space tho. I have a KJ and have been in many WJ. There is way more room in the WJ
I pulled the cargo numbers off the internet. But I would say the Liberty has more headroom. The I think is a little wider.