Is Big Pharma Hiding a Cancer Cure From Us?
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- Uncover the truth behind the "Big Cancer Plot" conspiracy theory in this eye-opening video! Explore hidden cures, debunked treatments, and learn how evidence-based medicine triumphs over baseless claims.
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Cancer isn’t just one disease, so there isn’t just one cure or treatment.
Isn't the root of all cancers the same? Cell division ( multiplication? ) That goes wrong!
@@EmielTalen yes, but it’s far more complicated than that.
@EmielTalen The reasons for the uncontrolled cell division vary. Kinda like trying to cure "broke down car", there are many reasons a vehicle stops working, but the result is the same. Everything has to work together or the entire system fails.
@@matthewpollock9685 this is a great analogy. Thank you
Ive had so many relatives die from cancer, that we actually had our genes checked for inherited cancer vulnerability. Yes, neither that nor the treatment for my several relatives cost us anything, coz we've not Americans....
Thankfully, there was nothing in the genes, "just" a grandma from HPV, a grandpa from working with asbestos, an uncle from decades of smoking etc etc etc. They sadly couldnt give us the reason for my dads colon cancer, that took him way too young, but at least we know, its not in the genes.
I am a cancer survivor and I am sure it was because of youtube.
I watched a lot of youtube videos while getting treatment, I am now cancer free.
True story.
Even cancer likes Simon so it gave you another chance since you watch his channels 😂
lol same, I was actually watching a Simon vid at one point in hospital with my earphones in, when the doctors came around, and they legitimately thought they were interrupting me 'facetiming with my boyfriend' and I laughed so hard!
Way to go dude!
@@annmareeofozhey! You can do hard things and I’m super proud of you!
Glad you're cancer free.
As an American, I would think that 25% of my fellow citizens believing in a "BCP" conspiracy has more to do with the absolutely insane cost of our health care system. When people are willing to leave a superpower country for treatment abroad based on cost rather than level of expertise, there is a colossal problem.
I saw years back a side by side comparison of the cost of getting treated for cancer in Europe (flight, hotel, food, etc.) vs the same thing in America and it’s astounding just how big of a difference it is.
The fact remains that many Europeans don’t comprehend how awful the medical system here is until they get here and see it firsthand.
Yeah, I feel Simon's being REALLY unfair with this. I'd love for him to try living in the US for a while and see how long it takes him to become cynical. It really boils down to what you trust more. I trust Science more than anything else. On the other hand, our entire healthcare system would rather ignore multiple specialist doctors and let you literally die than open their purse strings even the tiniest bit to spend a couple thousand more for that drug you NEED. "SoRrY, tHaT's NoT cOvErEd . . . Guess you'll have to pay out of pocket . . . oh, now you're even further in crippling debt and can't eat? Not our problem!"
I was going to make this comment but thankfully you already did it for me!
Let’s be honest it’s not like they are leaving the country for specialized treatment. It’s more insulin, butt implants and dental work
there is a video (constantly removed) from the 90s the chairman of the FDA speaking at a private meeting of pharma execs that he envisions a day that Cancer is just a long term condition to be medicated. AKA a permanent source of revenue. We are the product
As a cancer survivor and recipient of these “helpful” conspiracies theories I found this episode brilliant. Thank you.
Congratulations on beating cancer! Please indulge me? Where on the scale of “things that suck about cancer” are helpful tips?
@@PlantblissYou didn’t ask me, but I’ll give my rating having experienced a load of wrong, but sweetly intended “theories”, on my good days I could manage a “thank you dear”, on bad days, I’d mutter “Don’t choke on that nonsense on your way out”. It’s mostly just tedious.
Since you had it, did you happen to read the book, M.D. Emperor has no glow?
A co-worker’s 22 year old daughter had cancer. They decided to take her off chemo (yes, it’s hard to watch a loved one go through it) and put her on homeopathic path - it was basically carrots and other veggies blended together. One day she was bragging how well her daughter was doing - she had so much energy that day. She was dead the next day. Adding herbals and such is not bad (if approved by the doctor), but DON’T stop the chemo!
I feel bad for their daughter, not for the parent, they did something stupid
Fake. You don't die immediately after stopping chemo. That's not how cancer or it's treatment works. They were dying that day regardless
Sadly, a lot of terminally ill people have a resurgeance of energy right before they pass, which can then mistaken for alternative therapies working
I know when they stopped chemo on my friends wife she has been feeling a lot better. She still has terminal cancer and is going to pass they just didn’t want her to be super sick from the chemo for the end. So they made that choice and yes, she is feeling better not being irradiated every week, but it’s too far already.
My aunt refused an effective and well-tolerated chemotherapy when she got cancer and went the naturopathic and cannabis oil route. She is dead.
Here for the comments, I brought popcorn.
I got dibs on leftovers
Elon Musk spent more than $40 billion on Twitter for a meme.
You don't think he'd pay 1/40th of that to boost his ego?
Right on...I brought ginger snaps, we can share.
Bacon and eggs here in Australia 😂
I got the weed, pass the popcorn
My mom was DEEP into homeopathy. Not so much of colon screening. Now my dad is 90 and I’m helping him clean out his house. I’ve thrown away 40 years worth of brochures, pills, cd/ video courses. The amount of money my mom put into skirting western medicine… I don’t want to think about. I don’t want to think about “Olga” the Ukrainian chick he’s met online either. Get your colonoscopy folks so your daughter isn’t yelling at you for dying…. I miss my mom.
Sounds like she lived pretty long if your dad is 90
I hope you have your Dad's financial power of attorney.
Idk the doctor just tells me to suck it up whenever I visit them. I’m sure they’ll say the same thing if I make it that far.
@@completelytransparent6320That statement requires a very ignorant series of assumptions.
@@mrsir2254no it doesn’t..? Assuming OPs mom had lived a pretty long life is not an “ignorant” assumption at all. She’s a 90 year old man’s recently passed wife, who had collected a house worth of brochures, pills, cd and video courses on homeopathy over the last 40 years. Sounds like it’s a pretty good assumption to me.
My mom died from cancer over 6 years ago. She actually survived longer than she had any right to expect, and was able to get into some trials of drugs that showed promise once the proven ones stopped working for her. She fought hard until her body just gave out.
Shortly after she died, an acquaintance of mine started going on about how her mom had cancer and beat it by just smoking weed. That it's that simple. I kind of lost it. I'm normally not a very emotional person, but I was in no state of mind to listen to someone claim something so simple could have saved my mom had she only stopped listening to her doctors. I came out swinging, explaining how cancers work, how treatment works, how her mom was either very lucky or she was lying, that she probably did other treatments, she didn't just get diagnosed and light a blunt and laugh at the doctors.
This person who I had considered not a close friend, but a person I enjoyed talking to occasionally, just shut down. She blocked me and we haven't spoken since. I'm sure I could have handled it better, but trying to convince someone to stop taking "poison" and just smoke weed is dangerous, and to do so to someone who just lost their mother was heartless.
Anyway, screw anyone who claims people listening to doctors and scientists are sheep or idiots. Those people are doing active harm.
Sorry to hear of the loss of your mom. As a person who smokes marijuana everyday, I am waiting for it to give me cancer.
Absolutely disgusting of that person to peddle such nonsensical advice, especially to you.
@@misledprops That is one of many reasons i gave up on social media. It was just a toxic environment
If I was the person you said this to, this would be my response:
While I certainly understand how what I had said was seemingly heartless towards your particular situation, it was not written as any kind of attack or meant as any slight against you. Honestly; when writing it I had not even known about your mothers situation at all. Had I known, I surely would have altered the voice of my words so that they are more sensitive towards yours (or anyones in the same) situation.
I was overwhelmed with the prospects of losing my own mother, and I genuinely can see how my words would upset anyone in that situation. The fact of the matter is, I was just incredibly joyful that my mother is still alive and healthy and will remain as such for the foreseeable future.
Caught up in my elevated state, I was flooded with serotonin and subsequently was not thinking about the impact that my joyful intend words could have against certain people in an adverse situation. The truth is I was just thankful she was going to continue living and thankful that I would be able to postpone her leaving this plane for the time being. I was merely inviting everyone I knew to join in my celebration and share in my overwhelming joy I had come into possession of.
With that being said; I can truthfully say that no slight was intended and I am remorseful that you took it as such. Indeed I can not hold you at fault for feeling the way you did, and can honestly say I would feel much the same had our roles been reversed in this situation.
All I can say is that while celebrating my own fortune I was not very respectful towards any person who was in the opposite position that I was in.
That, however; does not excuse the way that you acted towards me when I was only hoping to share in my joy and truly did not mean to imply that cancer or any illness for that matter is as simple as smoking a joint. In fact, I believe quite the opposite, and have been trying to be more aware of these things and speak with more sensitivity towards any humans in any kind of situation as such.
It was incredibly hurtful at the time to receive such directedly hurtful words as the ones you had sent my way. And, as feeling attacked during my celebration of joy; I felt no need or honestly any reason to stop my celebration and stoop to the level of flinging hurtful words at someone I had held in high regard at one point in my life.
I do now sympathize with your situation, and while I can understand why it was done, this in no way excuses your way of its handling it by lashing out and / or assuming that I was personally attacking your person or particular circumstances.
This simply is not true, and hopefully one day you will also come to this realization as well. While I certainly do not promise anything, if you were to sincerely offer an apology I would give it due consideration, and render my reply as thus.
I'm not going to hold my breath by any means, but still hope to one day to be receiving said apologies, so that I may offer my own to you for the way in which my words were hurtfully received. Again, it was not my intent and I'm sure you can understand since we're not even the closest of friends anymore how I was not even cognizant of how hurtful my words could be recognized by one in your situation as a personal attack, and subsequent spreading of mistruths and medically untrue information.
I will always hold the door open if you ever should wish to render said apologies to me, but I do not feel that I was in the wrong in this situation, and therfore will not be offering anything more than an opportunity for your apologies to be received by me. I nevertheless wish you a happy life, and hope for nothing but your long life and happiness.
-Them
However, I am not them. So please don't assume this is in any way what happened or will happen. I'm meerly offering an outside observation on the situation, since it was seemingly odd to make such a public gesture regarding such a private matter.
Indeed, I agree with you that this person is a **** and they are the one who should be apologizing to you. How dare they use their mother's health to ruin your day, and also be so insensitive towards a situation that they knew nothing about. Careless people like that anger me to no end, so much so that I wish some stranger would offer them some perspective someday, so they are not acting so carelessly toward others in their life. People can be so thoughtless and cruel. 😮
I think the whole Covid thing left a bad taste in peoples mouth. The governments, doctors, and drug companies need to come out and admit that they sucked and told us information that was untrue, or unverified. Remember how the goal post changed? First it was 100% safe , 100% effective, You can’t get catch it if you get the jabs. Then it went to you may catch it but it won’t be bad and you definitely won’t spread it. Then it went to well you can catch it and can spread it but you won’t get very sick. After that they would just say how bad you would have been if you didn’t get the jab.
All the while the safety aspect took a similar path of insanity.
If they would have been honest from the start and said we are not sure how well it works and we are not sure the safety of it. They could have just used it on folks that were in the most vulnerable groups. But nope, they made legislation that literally forced perfectly healthy people to take it for no reason at all. The Fauci sauce gave a young woman I know and love a clot in her brain. I also have a coworker that was rock hard about taking it and a year later had a heart attack and his wife had a huge clot in her brain 🧠. Another friend of the family just got released from the hospital because of their stroke. To many people aged less than 45 having strokes.
Do you trust them?
Sad if your do but even sadder that you can’t.
An apology will go a long way.
As an avid weed fan the person who said that to you is insane if they legit believed that, doctors might prescribe weed to help with nausea associated with chemo but not to cure it, chemo is essential as much as I wish it wasn’t.
I’m a 2x brain cancer survivor. There are over 120 different types of brain tumors. They each have their own different types gene mutations, some might be considered wild type and some not. There will never be a single medication to cure all brain cancer because of this.
Idd, and thats "just" brain cancer. Then theres all the other forms of cancer.
But gratz on beating it! I hope, u get a good, long life ❤
My father in law passed away from an aggressive brain cancer variant back in 2012. It has been hard for my wife (she was almost 17) and the rest of the family, when he passed away. However, one thing I'm glad of, is that my wife, her siblings, and her mom did not fall down this conspiracy theory rabbit hole. They've maintained a healthy mindset, and have retained their intelligence and integrity in the years since.
Glad you are still with us and sharing hard earned knowledge. Live long and prosper.
@@susinator I’m so very sorry. You would not believe the all crap I’ve heard. Drink alkaline water, bathe in baking soda, eat yourself healthy, use Rick Simpson Oil which is THC oil. It’s illegal here in Texas and it hasn’t been proven to shrink tumors. If I could I would use it for seizures though. I think if people want to do alternative medicine then they should do them with conjunction with regular treatment. I would definitely not be alive without chemo.
What about a treatment that weakens the cancer cells and makes them stand out while the immune system is beefed up to go and attack them? Or turning off and on genes? Or just retraining our immune system? I’m just so frustrated that over 50 years in to the war on cancer and billions and billions given to cancer research we aren’t much better off.
Last year CZcams ran a little campaign warning people about misinformation. At about the same time they started showing 5 minute ads promoting some sort of "magic water" that cures prostate cancer.🤦♂
It's like how youtube had big events for inclusivity while it's most popular section of the site was the alt right pipeline
CZcams is still pushing misinformation ads. They don't care. If I pay them for it, I bet they would let a ad through saying licking the sun cures cancer.
@sookendestroy1 Lmao "while it's most popular section of the sight was an alt right pipeline"
@@sookendestroy1That is more 4chan than youtube.
@@robbieisonfire you're*
One major argument against this conspiracy is a simple one: curing cancer would mean people live longer. Old people spend more on medical treatments in general. By curing cancer, you keep your customers alive longer to buy more of your products.
Without chemo, my father in law would be long dead. He had 3 months. His intense treatment means he got to get married, travel to Mexico, share another Christmas with his grand children, and adopt his dream dog.
While its not everyone's choice, I'm so incredibly thankful for it.
Your father is one of the lucky ones. If he survived longer than five years. Because only three percent of cancer victims survive five years. Which hasn't changed in 74 years. Watch Cancer Drug They Hid from The Public! (Medical Documentary) | Only Human czcams.com/video/0OHVJvFA1XMT/video.htmlhe Cancer the Forbidden Cures - Full Documentary czcams.com/video/BTGye7kA6rM/video.html
I never considered it before but yeah, other countries having socialized health care are a pretty strong argument against this conspiracy as they have no incentive to perpetuate it. 🤔
There's also the "interesting argument" for China (maybe Russia, but China's obviously much more solvent) to create permanent cures and dump them on the US to crash big pharma and cause chaos and mistrust.
I mean, since we've gone there anyways. But maybe China doesn't need to since it's in league with anal jabing aliens to probe reel gawd fearin mercians!(?)
Such as?
I doubt there is a cure ready at the moment however, countries with socialized medicine would not meen it cant be true, if there is a developed cure, in some lab, owned by some pharmaceutical company, that company may still have an interest in hiding it, as pharmaceutical companies are also makeing money in places with socialized Healthcare, less, true, but they still get paid for their products, so reducing thd need for a series of products, or makeing it useless, would cost them more than they could make on this new drug..
@@Irol. Such as what ? Are you asking him to name countries with socialized health care ? Google it yourself. It's not hard.
Still a reason. Big pharma payoffs not to release it.
my mom has stage iv cancer and i currently work in a lab researching certain genes implicated in metastatic growth. i’m pretty sure i wouldn’t have a job if there were a cure for cancer. each cancer is essentially a different disease with a different genome, which means that each cancer responds differently to each treatment. this is why we’re moving towards genome sequencing when looking at what treatments to use. cancer is such a bitch to treat because it mutates so often, almost like how the covid virus mutates. i got so excited when i saw this video because i can actually contribute to a conversation in the comments LOL. when my mom was diagnosed in 2016, she fell into the homeopathic fad treatments. thankfully, she’s been getting actual treatment. these fad treatments are genuinely so dangerous and they prey on vulnerable people. i’m currently in school to be a pediatric oncologist, so i’m dedicating my life to killing cancer and fighting stupid shit like these fad treatments.
Maybe make something that forces a mutation to a dead end? Use a virus to target the mutated receptors and sick the immune system o. It. One thing that was a bit of a silver lining regarding the C19 virus was that it did attack lung cancers rather viciously and in some lucky people quite specifically. Reprogram it to seek and destroy the tumors, and it would be awsome. ❤
Interesting. How does the human body deal with cancer cells? Is our system so complex that effectively we have a different response for each type of cancer?
@Krunch2020 the main issue that triggers the immune response is leakage of potassium ions triggering cytokines and direct apotosis of cancer cells. However it is tricky to get the immune system to recognize cancer as a problem unless it is damaged some way that throws up a red flag. The silver bullet would be something that damages cancer cells enough to throw up red flags and trains the immune system that certain markers on the tumor cells are not okay.
You might want to do a deep dive into what Dr. Thomas Seyfried from Boston college has to say!!!
Google chemo while fasting
I would never take turmeric for cancer, but multiple scientific studies have proved that it has anti-inflammatory properties. I'm not going to give up my arthritis meds or NSAIDs and swap to just turmeric, but the turmeric tea I drink on bad pain days does seem to help my meds keep the inflammation and pain levels lower than without it. And it's definitely better for my stomach than just popping NSAIDs every time the pain gets a little higher.
There is also some evidence that shows a link between taking turmeric and liver disease. Probably fine in a tea, but be careful.
Natural remedies are amazing for helping with other proven remedies. Ginger is great for stomach issues, but ginger and Tums work wonders together. I'm pregnant right now and I'm definitely not going to rely on one or the other when I can take both. I take honey for colds and proven medications if my doctor recommends them. Using all available tools in your arsenal is better than using only one.
I have severe arthritis, I just got my right hip replaced. I take my prescription pills, but I also take turmeric. I asked my Dr if it was ok, and he said that it wouldn't interact with my meds, and if it helps, it helps. I suspect that he read up on it, on my next visit he said that turmeric IS proven to be anti inflammatory, and as long as I felt ok I could continue taking it. I don't know if it is the placebo effect, but I 100% agree that it seems to help me when I have a really bad day. 😊
A doctor not knowing a single thing about tumeric sums up my time so far experiencing human life on earth
@@completelytransparent6320 why would a doctor know about Tumeric? The evidence for it is problematic. It does show anti-inflamatory qualities, but it also shows evidence of causing liver damage. And we have (on the whole) better pain killers and anti-inflamatory meds out there.
No doctor is going to tell a patient to take a treatment that could be ineffective and in fact damage the patients health when there are tested options available that are not going to open them up to liability.
Tumeric is not better than NSAIDs. And there is no way to "prescribe" it in a way that is safe/reliable.
If it works for you - great - but you have to realise that it does not work uniformly for everyone as effectively as actual pharmaceutical drugs, and there is no way to guarantee the quality of the product like actual pharmaceutical drugs.
I do have cancer. Breast cancer. My oncologist and I were talking about how shitty the treatments are. The only thing we have is cutting (surgical removal), burning (radiation) and poisoning (chemotherapy). It’s absolutely horrendous!
And vaccination gene therapy
@@nobilismaximus I don’t know anything about that
Hurts us where we live, doesn't it?
If done correctly, radiation therapy is not that terrible.
Surgery can affect your body image. Which is bad. But better than leaving the tumor to grow.
In case the breast cancer is hormone driven, there is also medication to turn you into an eighty year-old. Medication that lowers your estrogene levels next to zero. Which has side effects, of course. Against which there is medication. Which has side effects. And so on.
@@carminia824 this is my second go round. The first time they burnt the hell out of me. Huge blistering and all. I wasn’t able to tolerate the hormone therapy. I was in bed weak for 6 months. I was told I only had a ten percent chance of the cancer coming back. It has been less than two years
I am sorry to hear this. How completely awful. I was fine during radiation. A bit tired, but no burns or anything. No idea what your radiologist is doing different from mine.
I think many women do not really tolerate this hormone therapy. Others are doing ok. with it.
Sometimes decisions are about the quality of the rest of one's life.
@@amandaterrio4823
I think people forget that being THE FIRST COMAPNY to make a cancer cure would would them so much money off of the positive press alone
They'd have to spend a solid chunk of those profits on buying enough caps just to fit all the feathers in!
People also forget that although there is big money in the conventional medical industry, alternative therapies are also extremely profitable and aren't just magical potions being sold at cost price by halo-touting altruists out of the goodness of their hearts.
Well, while it's not a cure as such - the HPV vaccine is effective at preventing cervical cancer. And Merc has done well selling that.
Yes! If a company was greedy/selfish enough to want to hide a “cure” they would also be greedy/selfish enough to want to be known FOREVER as the ones who came up with it. No matter how much CB money you make selling current therapies, you cannot tell me they wouldn’t get more selling a “cure”
That is a major flaw in so many "secret knowledge" type conspiracy theories. All the idiots who claim science is suppressing things like ghosts or aliens or supernatural events don't seem to understand that if any scientist could step forward and prove _any_ of that stuff, they would become _the most famous scientist in all of human history._ There is _zero_ incentive for any scientist to keep anything like that a secret.
I lost my brother to cancer about three years ago and a beautiful woman I loved before that. Liver cancer and Colon Cancer respectively. Regular physicals would help, but even then, the medical professionals are lack lazy. My brother? our family is "bullet proof", maybe he should have seen a doctor sooner. As for the woman, she saw a doctor and they dismissed her symptoms. Personally, I have very little respect for the Medical Professionals in the US. They are controlled by the insurance companies. If I were diagnosed tomorrow, I would refuse treatment unless the prospects of recovery were VERY good. Otherwise, they'll not bankrupt me or my family. I will die willingly. Great episode Simon.
This is exactly my sentiment as well. I was just telling my husband the other day that if I'm ever unresponsive and dying, to chase the doctors down and make sure they drown me in pain meds and anxiety meds for me to pass comfortably. That's it.
Also, that is, if I ever had cancer or something that is difficult to treat with poor survival chances, I'd rather focus on being able to die comfortably.
People make fun of the US for the craziness, but when the uninsured and low income have vastly less survivability and poor treatment options, in addition to the debt, then you can see where the paranoia stems from. It's been shown that even poor/uninsured patients who have their cancer diagnosed at stage 1 still have far less of a chance for positive outcome compared to insured/wealthy patients diagnosed at stage 2. If that doesn't give you an idea for how absolutely fucked it is here, then I don't know what will. This also obviously includes racial connotations beyond classism.
I watched a video recently that had a poll to see how many professionals that treat cancer that would be willing to undergo the cancer treatments they provide. Not many of them would have any of the treatments after having seen the negative impact therefore choosing to make the most of their time left without the hell the current treatments entail.
@@deesparklebazinga9374 The problem with this idea is that as long as you're alive there is a chance, no matter how small, that a cure could be right around the corner. Once you're dead, it's too late to benefit from any cure being developed.
Of the around $250k my cancer treatment cost (my contribution, $19, not a typo) in Australia, less than $1k was in pharmaceuticals. To think that the companies producing chemotherapy drugs are keeping a cure a secret to make a thousand dollars per patient over 6 months is literal non-sense.
$250,000 in 6 months is strong motivation. It's not really that insane.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036read it again. It's stated that only 1k is cost of drugs. The 250k is propably doctors' fees, hospitalization, tests and so on. So 1k in 6 months isn't a strong motivation ;)
@@cavalieroutdoors6036 read it again - only $1k of that was pharmaceuticals. The rest was surgery and radiation, and it was all government funded. The idea that drug companies are trying to profit in that small of a slice IS insane - they profit by keeping the intellectual property of new medications rather than releasing it for generic low cost alternatives.
Please re-read what you commented on: 1k on pharmasuticals. That means the rest is for doctors, nurses, hospital, probably leave from work etc.
Considering pharmaceuticals are endorsed by the doctors because they have their own arrangements for pricing, it makes total sense still. More money while maybe not directly going toward pharmaceuticals, still goes to their clients. It’s still beneficial.
When you have companies like Johnson & Johnson charging up to $42.000 a month for a simple pharmaceutical that helps leukaemia patients and then said company sue the government for trying to re-negotiate the price to make it more accessible for said patients, it's not far fetch to think that they can possibly have the means and funds to find cures and treatments and simply choose to not go that route.
What about all the countries with socialized medicine where treatments and medication aren't expensive and don't have the problem that we do of all these horribly disgusting insurance companies that treat patients that way and benefit from delaying and withholding treatment? There are hundreds of thousands of people in those countries working on understanding cancer and finding miracle treatments for every type, you think they would withhold their cancer breakthroughs for no reason and not share them with the rest of the world? None of this "withholding" conspiracy makes any logical sense or has any rationality behind it. Cancer happens for so many different reasons that there is no preventing it, so even in the us there is just as much if not way more money to be made off miracle treatments/"cures" as they would be able to charge whatever they wanted for them. Anyway, just trying to help!
I had a patient who thought she could use essential oils to cure her cancer and ended up losing her entire arm at 42 years old 😬 the day before they chopped it off she said she wanted to try chemo
Sounds like she was smoking the essential oils.
sounds like "crunchy momma of two angels" kinda type iykwim
I have stage 4 cancer. People come out of the woodwork with wacky cures.
My grandma got diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer 17 years ago and died 2 months later. My mom was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer 2 months ago and is looking at NED status (no evidence of disease) by March. Science is incredible
When I asked my oncologist my odds, he said I can't, DO NOT LOOK IT UP. I immediately looked it up, and told him I feel bad for the 199 people that will die in the next five years, that have been diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer today, I'll bet you a million dollars to one that I'm the one. He said I know you will with that attitude. that was ten tears ago, so it's like a 89,401 that have died since that was ten years ago....and that are the odds of living 10 years after diagnosis.
You did better than Totalbiscuit.
This is probably one of the most common conspiracy theories I regularly see posts about on social media. I usually try to explain how complex cancer is and how unlikely it is that all of them have the same universal cure -- so I hope I'm not about to look like an idiot 😂
No not dumb. Cancer is specific to each person as it’s your own cells. No two cancers are exactly the same even if they are the same types.
Every cancer is different. There may be a new cure here and there like recently, but it’s only effective at a certain degree, across different types. You, my sir, look smart. One size fits all may barely get by for education but will probably never get by in the medical industry
Conversely - we did create a vaccine that prevents some cervical cancers - and that is the HPV vaccine. And we gave it out basically for free to high school aged girls. It has (and will) saved millions of lives. And no "Big Pharma" bros tried to prevent it. It's almost as if the conspiracy theory is BS. ;)
Nope, you were correct. A lot of points were made, but really fast and compelling one is that some cancers have been pretty much cured already, yet others persist.
Even a single patient has different cancer types as cancer cells with new mutations keep arising due to their incredibly fast and unregulated replication and they evolve under pressure of the immune system and treatments. So yeah, I dare say it is impossible to develop one cure for all cancer types.
Alright man but you don’t know how desperate we are when you have someone in your immediate family with cancer killing them right in front of you way way too early in their lives. If it’s your little brother, not so funny when nothing works and the experts charge $500,000 just to fail to diagnose anything until it’s stage 4, and then when treatment after treatment fails to do anything. My family hasn’t tried anything like eggplant or shark fin, but if I thought anything might save my little brother I’d do absolutely anything at all. Don’t really love you laughing about this like it isn’t wrecking whole families, bankrupting us and not being dramatic, literally tearing hearts and souls out of us. Not a joke. You should see my little brother. Is not funny. We would do anything for him. I’m not laughing at another family who starts trying things other people think are crazy when nothing else works and everything that’s supposed to is asking your loved one be to tortured till the end of their lives for you to maybe get a little more time with them. I get it. Cancer is just hell. For a lot of families who deal with it, there just is no such thing as a good option. Not at all religious, but I’ve prayed for a cure just in case somehow it helps him. You’ll try anything. Trust me.
The fda gets 50 percent of its funding from big pharma. The skin cancer he spoke of has a natural cure, radium weed sap! Look it up!! Fertility, testosterone, and lifespan are all rapidly declining! Folks have used different frequency generators, parasite drugs, and other pharmaceuticals to cure cancer that have little to no public knowledge because of profitability. This guy is a shill our clown, hard to tell which one.
I remember working as a cashier years ago and I was asking people for a donation to the Canadian cancer Society, and no joke I had a woman come through and say that she wasn’t going to donate because God was going to cure cancer 😂😂😂😂😂
Well medicine sure as shit can’t do it. Impossible
What's worse is insurance companies (U.S.) dragging their feet on treatment approval. So the patient dies and they don't have to payout.
I've watched it happen.
The evil of insurance companies is the real conspiracy.
This is the real conspiracy!
Why would they? They could charge whatever they'd like for the cure.
Cancer doesn't work like this anyway; there will never be just one cure for all cancers. That's not how this will shake down.
Potentially because to offset the amount they’d make for everything else they’d have to charge an exorbitant amount that would lead to horrible PR and reveal how greedy they are
@@mbme618dude they make treatments that cost over $5 million for kids in pain. They won't back down the price. They don't give a shit about costs or what the public thinks. There is no "fund of profits" they use to help those who cant pay. Hell they ACTIVELY keep legislation in place so we can't negotiate prices. Do you not hear the bills up on capital hill? They just cockblocked us AGAIN in 2023 from being able to negotiate costs.
They. Don't. Care.
They're capitalists
the treatments that delay the cancer cost infinitely more than a straight up cure ever would.
@@mbme618So apparently there were 18.1mil cancer cases around the world in 2020, and almost 10mil cancer deaths. (These statistics exclude all non-melanoma skin cancer cases).
If any company had a cure for cancer they would be the most profitable business in the world and would absolutely swim in money, even (or especially) if the treatment is reasonably prized.
10 million people dying of cancer is 10 million people less to sell drugs to.
Most big pharmaceutical companies have a wide ranging portfolio of drugs. They want people to stay alive so they can sell more. Especially as people who are older generally need more medication, and therefore are a much more profitable customer base than younger people.
There is absolutely no monetary incentive to not release a cure for cancer.
Given that the money then can be reinvestment for further study into treatments for various diseases, and for those treatments to add more profitability.
From the outside it might look like there are incentives to hold back on a cure, but from a business standpoint a cure for cancer is basically a guarantee for unimaginable profit.
As cancer screenings improve, and cancer cases will increase in the future due to human population increase in general, and huge market growth in aging demographics (basically in every Western country, as well as Japan, China, Australia, New Zealand, etc.).
Can't emphasize enough the insane amounts of profit that's in it for any company holding a patent for a cancer cure.
That company holds a monopoly, and even if it makes them look unethical, they can set any price they want, as they have the literal cure for cancer.
Cancer is a metabolic disease easily treatable with the carnivore diet. Cancer cells can only use glucose as fuel but healthy cells can use glucose OR ketones/fatty acids. Go on the carnivore diet and you'll starve the cancer cells of what they require to reproduce. Dr. Thomas Seyfried is currently having great success with this at the university of Boston. But as far as a medication to cure all types of cancer? Yeah, not happening
Living with an incurable disease is so hard, but you just have to live life day by day as it goes by (Cancer sucks)...
It’s never the end of the world, but all problems can be solved. I never believed in miracles until Monica Erlene Mora helped me save my son.
Who is this Monica Erlene Mora? And how can I get in touch?
you can check her on the web
False. The vast majority of people just choose to live day by day because they don’t want to change the toxic habits that developed the cancer in the first place. Some of them figure out that the most probably reason they developed cancer was from consuming toxic waste foods.
Cancer survivor here, and the 5th diagnosis in my immediate family. I’ve watched the change in treatment and the advances over the last 40+ years, since my brother was first diagnosed. Thanks, Simon & Phil, for the clear, logical debunking. The only “miracle” needed to cure cancer is enough funding to keep the science advancing.
My mom survived 3 different types of cancer across 5 different bouts. She believes hard in homeopathy as well as western medicine. She told me "mint for congestion, tea for a cold, and goddamn penicillin for your infection" I feel like thats what got her through it, something to treat the cancer, and her homeopathic routine to treat the treatment so to speak
She is spot on. Pick the best from both sides... ❤😊
Homeopathy is water.
It's water.
And why does she keep getting cancer. Getting cancer one isn’t normal let alone thrice. The information that needs to be spread is how to not get cancer to begin with. It’s not normal to develop cancer or any chronic disease for that matter. It takes decades to develop it and it is brought on by decades of eating a species inappropriate diet, fact.
I think so many of us think is true because in America it’s SOOOOO expensive to be sick…. As someone who was 28 when they had cancer I assure you that I’m just now at 39 paying off my medical debt… there were times I had to choose to pay the medical bill or rent…. I didn’t want to die so I’d pay partial stuff and pay the medical stuff… it sucks is all I’m saying
If I'd lived in America instead of Australia where I have free health care and very cheap pharmaceuticals, I'd have died 2 years back when I was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. Instead I'm now apparently cancer-free and still able to be here for my handicapped offspring, who I'm still caring for. The situation for people in your shoes is appalling and cruel.
@@carolmay6812 I just visited you all in September! Loved it there
Sitting here just 2 weeks from surgery to remove some skin cancer. It is NOT likely to spread or take my life. It is still scary as hell. The day I got my diagnosis was terrifying. What did it mean, would my children grow up without a mother, would it hurt, did I do something wrong to cause this? All things that ran through my head. I'm so grateful that my prognosis is very good. I understand though why some people decide to look to homeopathy rather than traditional medicine, I sort of felt betrayed by doctors when I first was diagnosed. Anger and denial mixed up in one. I can only imagine how much more desperate I would have been if my situation was more likely to be life threatening.
This was interesting to listen to. I work in a large Pharma company on Oncology studies. In addition to the tens of thousands of people that work at my company on our studies, there are hundreds of thousands of people outside the company working on our studies as well. Not to mention the government agencies, independent review committees, etc which are informed of study results and progress in regular intervals. Given all this, the amount of people that would know about this cure is crazy. This includes people in low paid positions all over the world who would have nothing to gain for keeping quiet. Not to mention most people working in oncology have been affected by cancer in their personal lives. Its so crazy to me how fundamentally misunderstood clinical research is by people that so many would think there is a hidden cure.
I am a Pharmacy Technician and I have a nephew who is a research at one of the big pharmaceutical companies. During college he worked on a few projects using certain natural things like plants, and a specific tree in another country. He said they found a new drug during one project that they will be developing for cancer treatment. I also know the life cycle of meds and the author is correct it takes many multiple years to get a drug through FDA and approved on market, that is a small part of the reason some drugs are crazy expensive! Thank you, this was extremely interesting. ❤❤
GBM survivor here! I've outlived my prognosis already and am doing exceptionally well for this type of cancer. All thanks to long, expensive research thoroughly tested over many years. Of course, eating a little better and exercising a little more isn't going to hurt, but don't give up on the stuff proven to work.
Well the stuff proven to work doesn’t work, it just kills you. Your choice of food is the main determent in cancer cure or development, in my estimation. No body wants to chemo or medicine. People want to be able to be natural and healthy.
I actually do take Tumeric to control my gout. I've found it to have the effect of severely curtailing the severity of attacks to the point that I actually retain partial mobility of the inflamed joint during the flare-up.
That being said, I also suffer from ASD, and for that I take prescription medication. Because a periodic pain is one thing. My ability to participate in day-to-day life requires something proven to work.
Pineapple is good for inflammation. Capsaicin for pain. Etc. ❤
I just stopped eating chorrizo and other types of sausage. Completely killed my gout. I beat gout. Yea.
Wouldn’t you just rather not have gout instead of hanging to use bs remedies to treat it? Stop eating carbohydrates and toxic plant spices and eat meat instead. Your gout will “magically” disappear like mine did.
@@gamerjaqi7873Right let’s eat sugar to reduce inflammation?
@@gdlindstrom Ok so what are you saying caused the gout… When you say sausage people immediately think it was the meat, which would be demonstrably false and ignorant for that matter.
My great aunt was diagnosed with terminal cancer of the liver and stomach about 35yrs ago. I had just completed my advanced training in the US Army to become a pharmacy specialist-I was already a pharmacy tech and one of the first 300 registered by the state of California when I joined. I was shocked when overheard my grandmother saying the drs wanted to put her on chemo... I asked to talk with her and asked her one question... "Why would the dr put her on chemo if it was terminal cancer???" 🤔 I remember telling her not to do it as it would make her last days miserable and she was better off just asking them to let the cancer run its course and treat her pain with pain meds-IT WAS TERMINAL! 😲 She ignored what I told her and let the dr start chemo and within 3 weeks she suffered miserably and passed. That's when I realized drs do not always have the best intrests of thier patients in mind when treating patients. Most people don't realize that the whole point of chemo treatment is that it is suppost to kill the cancer before it kills you!! So if your loved one has terminal cancer, remember it's terminal and there's nothing they can do to make it any better! Hope the info helps!
As a scientist working as part of Big Pharma (although I like to think my company is more Big Pharma adjacent), thank you to Simon for being willing to take on this touchy subject. I feel like Americans are much more into this conspiracy compared to the rest of the world, given their terrible medical system setup, but since they have such a strong presence in the western world's internet space (ie CZcams comments) the amount of misinformation, disinformation and straight up bs I see on this topic is ridiculous. And Phil, I was already vastly appreciative of your writing here on this topic and was even more impressed after listing your credentials. As we both know, trying to make the layman understand this topic without getting told the government lies and there's too much money in keeping us sick is basically impossible but I'm a strong proponent for more science communication to the general public and this certainly counts!
Great video, and I hope at least a few people are convinced that maybe not everyone working in Big Pharma are out to get them!
Short answer: yes. Doctors have lots of things that kill cancer.... It just also kills the patient. Hell, the cures we use take the route of what almost kills the patient.
But the truth is that if there was a cure it would be waaaaaay too big and way too profitable to keep under wraps. But there is some really cool stuff coming soon. Not soon enough, but progress is being made.
But at the same time, they make so much money just treating people.
Most treatments are no longer under patent, so they are not really making that much treating people anymore.
Yes hench the new VERY expensive noncure they are looking to bring forth in the near future to keep the money flowing into big pharma's pockets
@@MrMars-sb3yq They would make *so much more money* with a cancer cure-all. Every country on the planet would buy the patents for billions.
@@resileaf9501 nah, 6 to 7 digits per patient
Short answer: No
Only because each type of cancer requires vastly different medication/treatment, what's used to treat mouth cancer won't work on liver cancer.
So it's basically not possible to have a cure for all cancer
chlorine dioxide actually works for most deseases, but it can't be patented
I was coming here to say this as well, Ralof
Chlorine dioxide? As in ClO2? Chlorine atoms only have space for 1 electron, not 2. Oxygen can't triple bond to either itself or the chlorine. How is this molecule physically possible?
Apart from possibly viral gene therapy, but that's only just undergoing animal testing at the moment lol
@@ProbablyNotLegit so we have gene Therapies in people. CAR-T for example and then a few others that are actively being tested in people right now.
I beat leukemia (Philadelphia Chromosome negative tcell A.L.L.) in my twenties. It was a wild ride. I got a first hand crash-course in just how complicated cancer treatments are. Imagine a disease uniquely tailored to you the individual. Sure, experience gives the doctor some ideas as to how to proceed, but doctors still need to dial in the treatments to the cancer cells, and even then, how the patient responds to those treatments is also unique. I feel like the conspiracy theorists simply don't understand that.
It’s not normal for a human to develop cancer. It’s the food you ate, most likely.
Simon's writers should really include the number of people polled and when for any polls they mention. Especially in America, polling agencies will often target a specific group, and they are always extesmall in comparison to the full population. Usually only 1000-10,000 people respond to the polls, and in a country of 331 million that's not close to being representative. There might be 1 in 4 people that wouldn't be shocked to discover pharmaceutical companies have been hiding a cure, but to actively believe it is a very fringe belief.
Right! It also depends on how they word the question. If they asked "do you believe pharmaceutical companies would prevent the release of information on a cheap/easily available cancer cure" I would probably say yes, but I certainly don't believe there is some big pharma cancer conspiracy.
It's just the way the question is worded.
There are methodologies to follow when making polls and processing the data but yeah. Sometimes they fuck up, and we need to know when and where they come from
I have a friend who very genuinely believes this. She is big into the whole homeopathic medicine thing and argues with me once that “cancer isn’t a disease that kills you, the medicine is.” My eyes are still rolling.
They both kill you. Constantly ingesting medicine is no different than poisoning yourself. And cancer will obviously kill you. You’re both wrong and right. What you choose to eat is the only thing that can get rid of cancer or cause it, that you should concern yourself with, for the most part. Hint, fruits and vegetables are not friend.
Incredible script Phil! This is the first script of yours that I have heard and I truly enjoyed it.
Keep them coming!
Banging episode,very well thought out and discussed without being condescending to the audience. I appreciate the compassion shown to those who've glommed onto these theories and acknowledging this can be seen as a coping technique. When you watch your first superheroes (your parents),an aunt and an uncle,and a grandma bravely battle these horrific diseases and still lose despite doing everything humanly possible to beat cancers,yeah a conspiracy theory or two wouldn't be immediately dismissed as patently ridiculous. Lack of sleep,
proper nutrition,skyrocketing anxiety,and dread all contribute to the theories sounding plausible while caring for your dying relatives. If you enjoy good relationships with your family members and close friends,
never miss a chance to say "I love you" or "..thank you for being my best friend" cuz we are not guaranteed a full lifetime with them. To those currently battling cancers,you are loved and cared for and you have every right to be exhausted,pissed off,frustrated,and completely done with the disease;this sentiment applies to the caregivers too since they see first hand the devastating effects on their loved ones and know they can't take away the pain. To the fallen,your fight changed perspectives and forced us to realize life isn't fair sometimes but we can learn,grow,and create change to help others. To the survivors,congratulations on your bad assery for kicking cancers outta your lives. Stay safe and be well.
Your coment touched me, yes ita hard been a morher watching your 18 ur old daughter go thew this buull sht its so hard and so hard for her, s true to tellhem you love them all the time, shes shitty at me and i try help i feell hepkess and like im making ut worse or. Auing her stress, or doing the wost thing giving her chermo,,, i just cant stop thinking of her leaving me, blessing to you,
Hell yeah.
God bless you for your compassion. It's easy to denigrate those who are taken in by alternative therapies, when, as you said, exhaustion, fear and sadness play into it -- whether you're the patient or the caregiver.
5:20 - Chapter 1 - Secret cures
11:00 - Chapter 2 - Watching out for quacks
15:55 - Chapter 3 - Origins of a conspiracy
20:10 - Chapter 4 - Refuting conspiracist, the hidden cure
29:30 - Chapter 5 - Refuting conspiracist, the natural cure
31:55 - Chapter 6 - How should we respond to conspiracists ?
Your the best
Wow Phil! Very strong writing. This was surprisingly robust, bit still fun. Thank you! Keep Phil busy!!
It’s almost as if wiping out malignant cells without also destroying the healthy tissue around them is really, really difficult.
? We already do that.
Yes, that is what appears to be the central difficulty. The immune system is always finding mutant cells to destroy, but if some slip by detection, they can multiply unrestricted.
Makers of that "miracle cure" bleach solution: "So that's what we were doing wrong..." A lot of these snake-oil salespeople seem to go by the idea that you can't die of cancer if you're already dead it feels like.
Phil, one thing to remember; Simon LOVES long intros.
What i find is the biggest "conspiracy" how the world is convinced that these drug companies sole point is not growth and profit for the shareholders. These companies have a far greater legal obligation to their shareholders than they do the people to whom they sell the drugs to.
I don't think many people think that. There is a difference between believing what ever big pharma says and thinking that they bothered making a cure that they just lock up and do nothing with
Before I met my husband he had lost his mother suddenly to cancer. A healthy woman on the cusp of retirement who never smoked fainted during a yoga class. The cough she thought was a cold that wouldn't clear up was stage 4 lung cancer that spread to her spine and kidneys. She died five months after her diagnosis.
The doctors did an aggressive treatment. Nothing was stopping the cancerous growths, only stalling. One of her adult children kept finding more and more fringe treatments and was frustrated that she didn't follow up on trying them. If cancer hadn't taken her she should have had 20-30+ more years of life. The fringe cure seeker just wanted to keep their mom alive for the time they thought she should have had, science be damned.
When you are losing someone you love reason can abandon you and you just want them back. Few of us know how we would face a slow impending death. Charlatans and fraudsters prey on feelings of fear and desperation and love peddling false hope. The snake oil peddlers are the scum of the earth, not the desperate people who want to snatch life back from the grip of death at any cost.
Ok, she wasn’t “healthy” if she developed cancer. Cancer is a diseases that takes decades to develop, and it only develops if your body is constantly in an inflamed state where it is a hot bed for disease. You will never be healthy and then all of a sudden get cancer, that is a falsehood. It’s the same thing for heart disease and diabetes. No one just randomly gets it like getting the flue.
Exactly.
One notable thing about a substance that kills cancer cells in lab conditions: all substances that kill cells kill cancer cells...they just also kill the rest of the cells a person has. Being dead is a pretty big downside to that approach to fighting cancer.
(Also, a lot of chemotherapy works similarly, it us is somewhat more aggressive at killing cancer cells than non-cancer cells. That's why chemo is so hard on people, you are literally taking something that would kill you if you took slightly more of it, you're just hoping to find a balance where the chemo kills the cancer but doesn't kill you. That's also why you go through periods of taking it alternated with recovery periods. This kind of approach takes a careful balance, which is why we have specialist doctors called oncologists who oversee treatment of cancer.)
yeah and it's usually paired with antibody treatments, as well as other antiviral and cell stimulating drugs you take to help your immune system respond.
When I had my chemo there was a 3 week recovery period and the amount of pills and injections I was on throughout was impressive lol.
We had a family friend who was big into all these kind of theories…she used the “black salve” eggplant one on several skin cancer lesions she got over the years. She then was diagnosed with liver cancer which while she initially consulted an oncologist she also continued to put more trust and CONSIDERABLE money into “natural cures” which she would always insist were helping and that she was feeling better at first, (placebo effect) even though she looked more and more frail and unwell everytime we saw her. The cancer eventually spread to most of her organs and into her lymphatic system and she passed away fairly quickly after this diagnosis 😢😢😢 I often wonder what would have happened if she had decided to try other treatments from the oncologist when the cancers were less serious and easier to treat. God bless her, she just wanted to be better, and I hate the the absolute charlatans who PROMISED she would be better if she just took some of their various very expensive “natural” remedies 😢😢😢
What do you say to a person like me that fully trusts individual doctors but also believe corporations have an incentive to treat (and not cure) customers
Because, keep in mind, the US has a legal euthanasia program for homeless people
@@topogigio7031 rub fruit on your nipples and pray 12hrs a day.
@@topogigio7031 corporations have an incentive to profit from you, and so do snake oil charlatans. at least the scientifically studied treatments aren't completely useless.
The Steve Jobs effect.
Every since Steve Jobs died from cancer. that answered the question do they have a cure for me. If one of the richest people on the planet can’t get it then it doesn’t exist.
I suppose they would argue Steve Jobs was rich, but not well connected or trusted enough to be in the loop for that. If we wanted to really test the theory, you'd look at medical industry execs and members of old money families. So far as I know they die at the same rate as everyone else. Minus some sussy stuff of getting organ transplants normal patients would never get approved for.
I saw a video on this, and the answer is more that they... Forgot they had it. Until one company rediscovered it, and they bought it from the govt
And.. in america atleast. you would have to mortgage your home sell your vehicles and a kidney to afford it.
25:30 Yeah, cuz there's no such thing as mega corporations that own multiple "competitors" 😂
Name 1 company that has a monopoly over the whole market. I'll wait. The US alone has more than 10 big companies in the space with smaller ones out there too. Even collusion is more difficult at that scale.
As an American, we are so used to getting shafted by our Healthcare industry.... Of course we think that!
If you apply the scheduling of psychedelics and how the FDA and DEA reviewed “research” that had questionable controls, it’s easy to go down the rabbit hole. “The body keeps the score” and “Acid Test” are pretty compelling books written by credible individuals.
Those stories ,like the one with your friend and his balls, really show some of the biggest advantages of socialized healthcare. Just being able to be seen when something is off (instead of waiting until its bad), can save a ton of money and lives.
If the US could even just have basic healthcare covered, and left us to pay catastrophic insurance, would have incredible benefits. Preventative > reactionary
This. Is is actually a HUGE reason why so many of us die off from things like cancer. Those who are uninsured aren't even remotely guaranteed a good outcome if found early, either. At least, in comparison to the insured. Add to that the debt, inability to work to pay off the debt, fighting for disability to simply live, etc. There is an entire mountain of billshit to sift through when you're poor and uninsured in this butthole of a country.
I haven’t watched this yet (I intend to). I study cancer sciences and the answer is:
No.
chlorine dioxide actually works for most deseases, but it can't be patented
@matias86532 31:45 literally covers this aspect, and what studies can you point to? I'll also make sure all the other places you copy and pasted this will have this same comment.
@@motorsr20 I thought they were being satirical 👀
@@Chancetheflapper I really hope so
@@motorsr20 same
In 2012 my husband was put on a trial for 2 small pills once a week. They were some sort or protein inhibitor. It cured his cancer with no side effects in six weeks, but once he stopped taking it, the cancer came back within 6 months, and he was no longer eligible for the trial. He died a few months later of non Hodgkins lymphoma at the age of 40.
I’m an American health science professional working at a research university.
Everything about this episode is 100% correct. Phil nailed it.
the issue is that research isnt being funded the way it should be because treatments are too profitable..
Sign me up for whatever’s keeping Dark Brandon alive
Monster Energy drinks
Whatever Kissinger and the queen had
I did some work for a big pharma company a while back and had the privilege of speaking to some people in R&D and they explained to me a big problem that they have.
They've developed some compounds that will reduce the odds, the rates, and the strength of various cancers, when taken as a preventative and are convinced of it efficacy.
Their modeling shows like, if the average age of we will say prostate cancer is 70, they can now push it back to 95 and it's much less aggressive or if the average age of brest cancer is 40-50s they can push that back to 70s-80s, etc.
These are life extension cancer delaying compounds, that along with pushing the average age back will also will drastically reduce the occurrence rates in the population.
The problem that they had is they're scratching their heads trying to figure out how to get the FDA to approve it because they need studies that show that it works, but we're talking studies that would require years or decades to be a fully blinded double blinded placebo control trials going over 10 years 20 years 30 years who knows how damn long.
Some people will say that like vaccines don't necessarily get a lot of trial and testing when it's very much needed like we'll say the COVID vaccines because of emergency authorization or whatnot but this is not an emergency authorization for anyone that's currently at risk of getting cancer or has it.
This is a prophylactic treatment that people would need to take as a supplement basically as a like a one a day vitamin that actually works and isn't garage.
That is a real challenge, how to be able to have a doctor prescribe it, as a treatment for an unknown...
So yeah I won't name the name of the company because it just doesn't help them because they can't figure out how to crack the nut of getting it onto the market at the moment.
Believe me they wish that they could, not just for the fact of it saving a lot of lives and reducing a lot of pain but also because it will make a lot of goddamn money, a whole shitload of goddamn money.
But navigating the regulatory framework be hard yo.
One thing they are looking at as far as studying for FDA approval and ultimately sale as a product, is genetically testing you, showing the cancers you are at risk for, and then prescribing it to you specifically even tweak for the cancers you might be at risk for, so like if there is a high incident rate of pancreatic cancer in your family and your DNA test shows yeah, you are fucked, they would prescribe you the drug to start taking at 30 or 40 and then you essentially don't have to worry as long as you take the supplement.
That was the plan anyways when I last talked to them that they would do some minor tweaking on the same chemical and maybe even do some specific improvements and they would say take this preventative for colon cancer cuz it runs in your family, Truth be told the compound actually protect you against the bunch of different types of cancers but they would have gotten FDA approval for the colon cancer, and other doctors would be able to prescribe it off label and then eventually they would get another one that was FDA approved for reducing the rates of prostate cancer, of course it would also help reduce the rates of a bunch of other cancers and once it was approved doctors if they wanted to could prescribe it off label.
I have a diagnosis that has a prognosis of 14 to 16 months. My first abnormal scan will be 5 years old in March. Surgery, chemo, and radiation. ❤
The combined experience of nations with competent health care is distinctly disconnected from the reality of their profit-driven mutant cousins across the pond
Exactly. It's a little embarrassing how callous they can be at times.
This country is a total shithole. It's any wonder why the vastly desperate will cling to whatever believe or hope they can, frankly. I find it sad.
There actually does appear to be a general treatment for cancer that will allow it to be cured or managed like something like high blood pressure. It involves taking samples of the tumors and creating rna vaccines for that a specific tumor in a specific individual. (One of the few positives of COVID). But it is prohibitally expensive at the current time.
Give it time. Look how cheap DNA and paternity testing has become...
Dude, you’ve got to be kidding yourself. You can’t cure someone’s toxic diet with medication. Cancer is a metabolic problem. Eat trash and your body will develop disease.
one other issue to consider in a debunk. science isn't like writing or painting, if it can be found or created once, then it can be reproduced and eventually one of those curse would not get suppressed by "THEM".
I think the reason this is so popular is because big pharmaceutical companies have definitely not done themselves any favours in holding our trust but cancer is something that anyone is susceptible to and everyone knows someone who has had it m. So why would any one withhold it if it could have themselves or their loved ones
Cuba has developed a lung cancer vaccine and offers it to the people who need it for free.
Cuba also developed Che Guevara, so maybe they're onto something
@@adamcordingley2572no they didn't. He was born in Argentina.
@@golferorbThey also didn't develop a lung cancer vaccine
@@adamcordingley2572yes they did and it takes less then a minute to find this. If you are referring to the use of "vaccine" though, I understand because I didn't think it was a vaccine but numerous articles call it that.
I dunno if this is the cause but I think people have confused the trade off on costs vs helping the most people cos I know there are treatments that have been shown to be effective (no idea what they are) but they are not viable to help many people for whatever reasons so until they become more viable there isn't really access to them
I'm gona say these treatments are very very specific cancers and the trade off to not fund those treatments saves the lives of many others
Do a video on this Simon you legend
Excellent episode, Simon. It should also be noted that some companies who manufacture and sell so-called alternative cures are big corporations themselves rather than individuals so why trust them, particularly as they aren’t subject to clinical trials and healthcare regulation?
Enjoyed your writing immensely Phil, look forward to hearing Simon decode more. 😊
If there was a cure would not the like of Senator McCain for himself or Biden for his son have the cure given to them or their love ones?????
People often just excuse that as an act, remember anything that goes against the narrative is a crisis actor.
Still look at the survival rates for the McCains and Bidens of the world vs. the average American. There might not be a bullet proof cure, but there are a lot of curable people dying.
This is sad side of what happens when corrupt authorities completely lose the trust of their citizens.
This was a great topic, comes up in conversation often particularly when discussing NHS and its troubles, glad to understand it better, great work!
As a cancer survivor who is about to use CANVA at work and was given some of those mushrooms by a family member after their spouse died of cancer, and regularly pushes quinine as a way to treat side effects of a specific chemotherapy this connected with me on SO many levels.
FYI, small doses of quinine (like the amount on a few Gin and Tonics) can help reduce the severity of the peripheral neuropathy caused by Brentuximab Vedotin, but in America they won't prescribe quinine anymore for it, because they used to prescribe a LOT of quinine for it, and that caused a lot of health problems.... At least that's how my oncologist described the chain of events.
chlorine dioxide actually works for most deseases, but it can't be patented
@@matias86532 never heard anything like that, and won't try it unless my oncologist recommends it, but I've heard great things about dihydrogen monxide
@erikrick Quinine has long been a treatment to reduce the symptoms of malaria episodes. My father contracted malaria while working in Indonesia in the 70s. He always had bottles of quinine tonic water on hand at home in Australia after he finished working up there. He suffered attacks for years after and tonic water stopped them.
@@matias86532 Chlorine dioxide kills bacteria and fungi in water. Killing them in water does not mean chlorine dioxide is safe or effective for therapeutic use in humans.
My dude, this is literally what the video is about. The lack of specificity and game of telephone people play with scientific information is dangerous. Remember, from XKCD: a bullet kills cancer in a petri dish, too. Stop recommending poison.
Lobbyist?
Outstanding script Phil. You’ve started off strong!
*Bill
Maybe there is more money in treating it than curing it in the long run. Why else would someone do such a evil thing? ☠️
I may just regret diving into the comments, hope the snorkel works. I’m in the UK and even here a quarter of people believing the conspiracy might be a stretch, but as much as it pains me, I’m going to let Americans off with it, with how much pharmaceutical companies bend over their healthcare system I imagine it’d be a lot easier to believe, out of hope if anything.
Lex Luthor: "I've successfully found the cure to cancer."
Also Lex Luthor: "Find a way to slow it to a crawl."
Don’t judge our people for assuming the worst of our for profit medical system. It seems less crazy when you hear half the crap we find out after it gets declassified
Why would they spend billions researching a cure only to pretend it doesn't exist once they found it AND continue spending billions to keep up the image that it was still not found ? Seems counter productive.
If it was just about money they could not have put as much money in to discover it in the 1st place and it would then not be discovered anyway.
Well,it's also because most Americans are drinking lead water,and 100% have some sort of negative mental illness...
Not to mention the poor survivability for the uninsured and poor with things like cancer. I'd said in another comment that studies have found that poor/uninsured patients diagnosed with stage 1 cancers have an even worse chance of a positive outcome to wealthy/insured patients diagnosed at stage 2. That's aside from the debt, lack of ability to work for many, and then the repeated petitions for disability and fighting the system during all of this. It's completely fucked.
Even if I don't believe in this conspiracy theory, I find it insulting that the first reaction is to make fun of everyone without even lending a thought to WHY it's like this in the first place. We have a shitton of mental health issues here for a reason that nobody wants to fix.
I don't blame them for assuming the worst, I can blame them for not being skeptical or critical enough as well as throwing their hands up in the air and succumbing to doomerism. Less crazy sure but it would still be craziest thing imo. Unprecedentedly.
The problem isn't skepticism of the for-profit medical system. What is crazy is replacing trust in that system with trust in grifters and snake-oil salespeople who you should be WAY more skeptical of due to their own historical track record.
Health insurance companies would be the first to embrace any secret, simple, or inexpensive cure. The question would then be: Will our premiums go down?
My mother died from cancer 10 years ago and every time they gave her a new medication that worked it got pulled from the market the Dr told me it happens every time something works
Or the sales sucked… come on dude. Cancer is a food related disease. Medication can never cure it.
Lol right as he said are you smoking crack, I may or may not have been…. Made me and the people I was with laugh hysterically 😂 he knows his viewer base or should I say viewer “free base” a little to well 😂😂🤣
A friend of mine did it for a year and, unfortunately, he's dealing with the problems it brought until today. So, have fun, but take a LOT of care.
I don't know if it's because of it... But he lost most of his teeth. I know because I was attacked by a robbery and lost many as well, so we talked a lot about it... And dental implants aren't fun. 😕
Who the f… sits with a group of friends doing drugs and watches Whistler videos?! Weird as f… if you ask me. But you do you I guess 😅
@@MCsCreations I have all my teeth and I honestly wasn’t really partaking much I am unfortunately a recovering opiate addict and I take methadone but my friends are mostly coke heads or crack heads bc it’s easier to not do downers with people who well don’t do downers lol
Here's a question
Why is there marketing for cancer drugs?
Shouldn't there be blind studies, free of vested interests, that speak for themselves as to how wonderful and effective their cancer drug is, studies that your doctor and medical team can reference when making choices as to the most effective methods to treat your illness, specific to your case?
Why is there any commercials fir any pharmaceuticals?
Why does the government allow pharmaceuticals to tell them how much pharama wants to set prices each year AND NO NEGOTIATIONS ARE EVEN ALLOWED?
why do you think it's ok for our congressman and senators to accept corporate donations?
Do you think there will ever be anyone who tries to stop legislation for corporations?
I don't.
Because America decided that they should just let companies screw the average people over and not regulate them to prevent them from running ads. But other countries don't allow their drug companies to advertise and the whole scientific community isn't in America so thankfully this is all just a conspiracy. Unfortunately, Americans are a large portion of the Western world and digital space (aka CZcams comments).
Some countries like France I believe don't allow marketing (at least TV marketing to my knowledge) for pharmaceuticals. Probably some others as well.
I love this episode, my mother passed away from cancer in 2021. But there is one point that wasn't brought up that could also serve as a point to debunk the conspiracy. The doctors and medical professionals who get into the treatment of cancer care about people deeply. I saw medical professional get stressed and tired and sad when things went wrong. Those people have an incredibly difficult job not only intellectually bit emotionally. I've seen doctors who cried with us when my mom passed. It's maybe a smaller point that could fall under the not keeping a secret part but there are countless caring and empathic individuals who care more about their patients than they do about the companies they work for who would absolute let that secret out of the bag immediately even if it meant they lost their job.
As a biologist who knows people who study cancer, the answer is no. Cancer is just very hard. It varies base of cell type and types of mutant genes. It doesn’t help cancer can mutate to adapt to previously effective treatments.
For anyone interested, Dr. Joe Schwarcz has a bunch of videos on CZcams published through the McGill OSS, Montreal Gazette, and other channels.
I also appreciate using the statement "spammed by quacks" because Dr. Schwarcz is always on the fight against quackery and to that end he has amassed a huge collection of rubber [and other] ducks in his office which are visible in many of the videos which are shot there.
I'm sorry for how gullible we Americans can be.😅
As an American, I resent you apologizing on my behalf. I know the aliens have the cure, but they are in cahoots with the government so they can continue to probe us poor country folks while the big city people get to enjoy life (with-out being probed!). I have completely lost my train of thought on this and will therefore end it here. But remember, when it come to conspiracies, it is all about the aliens. 👽
It's a worldwide problem.
@@playedout148American school teaches memorization rather than logic and reasoning.
It's an intentional dumb down (and we're the country that worships jocks: so it's pretty fucking low to being with).
Our for profit "health" care system does not help this, they have proven themselves to be pretty sociopathic.
My dad had cancer for a few months, they froze it off. Not doing a very good job with this one are they?
Might I suggest if there was a cure no billionaires would die of cancer because no company is going to say no to an offer of a billion dollars and no billionaire is going to say no to the price when on their death bed. End of argument, there is no cure at any price at least at the moment.
I'll bet Simon feels interesting talking about the concept of a Whistle-blower
The 20 year patent argument only works when the company doesn't find other uses for the drug. If they find the drug works for x-disease they get 20 years on the patent. Lots of companies keep testing their drugs and announce a few years before the patent expires that it also works for y-disease therefore getting another 20 years of exorbitant prices and exclusivity for their drug. Just look at Rheumatoid Arthritis drugs. Some have been available Since the late 80's early 90's and have long lists of other things they are used for now keeping the patents with the parent company for the long foreseeable future. As to why Americans believe that Big Pharma is hiding a cancer cure? We've been repeatedly lied to and used as guinea pigs for drugs that were "safe" only to find them detrimental to our health. We get sick and get told that certain medicine isn't available to use because our insurance won't pay for it. We watch these big companies get special treatment and perks and clemency from the government while we end up in medical bankruptcy just trying to get healthy.
I keep thinking of psychedelics for depression, anxiety, ptsd and brain trauma.
Then I think of kratom for opioid addiction. Current "cures" for opioid addiction are simply less euphoric and *more* addictive opioid like buprenephrine (suboxone/subutex) and that liquid one I can't think of the name right now because I'm tired...
And saying regulatory bodies are the ones that block these, and not Big Pharma completely ignores the reality of how lobbying works in the US, as well as the revolving door of CEOs of private sector companies and decision makers at regulatory agencies.
I'm not saying there's a magic cure for cancer... just trying to help shed light on Americans skepticism of our entire Healthcare industry and the government that is supposed to regulate it.
How can you have a cure for cancer, when cancer is an umbrella term for a large group of diseases with numerous causes. Some people are so basic... Oh, and sharks do get cancer
Going to Mexico and getting scammed by a supposed new cancer treatment is literally the plot of Saw X 🤦.
Hey everyone how's it hangin'?
Must have just passed the ball cancer part huh?
@@Switcharoo12 Cancer free I hope?