The Best Do It All Mountain Bike Tire? | Maxxis Dissector Review
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- Is the Maxxis Dissector the best do it all MTB tire? Does it live up to the hype? Is it good in the front and/or the rear? In this week's video, I will answer all these questions. As well as compare it to some more popular versatile tires such as the Continental Trail King, Schwalbe Hans Dampf, and the Maxxis DHF DHR and Aggressor.
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00:00 Intro
00:21 Overview
02:13 Climbing
03:06 Descending
06:53 Durability
08:07 Comparisons
10:36 Verdict (Pro’s/Con’s)
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Good review. Ive traditionally used the aggressor in the back but have been looking at the dissector more and more. Appreciate the breakdown of how the tire felt in different conditions/styles of riding.
Nice review Phil👍
I’m currently running the Dissector on the rear and I’m really happy with it.
Great review! I'll have to try one out once my DHR wears out
Excellent review!
This really helped me decide my next rear tire, I was between the dissector and the aggressor and you sold me on the dissector :)
Great review!
The dissector is sweet .
My combo is a DHR FRONT AND REAR Dissector.
This combo is ok on weet surfaces? Roots? Rocks? And other stuffs..
I’m thinking for summer, but if will be a rainy day will manage on trail?
Great review thanks!
Thanks mate!
The answer is yes, yes and yes - I run a 2.6 front and 2.4 rear and is the best all-rounder tire for hard loose trails - cheers. BTW with a 2.6 at a slightly lower psi offsets your concerns about engagement on the DH side. I am 6'7" 225 pds on a xxl SC HT LT
Great review
This guy is so under rated... love your vids
I just changed over to Maxxis Assegai 2.5 on front and Dissector on rear 2.4 both 3C Max Terra EXO and absolutely love this combo on my 2019 Canyon Spectral...
This is what I'm riding in Utah, but DC on the Dissector. Works well. I had been running the 29x2.4 Trail King up front with the 29x2.3 Mountain King on the back in Black Chili on a Trance 29. I time my climbs and generally speaking, I've found my times vary more due to hydration, motivation, nutrition and how well I've slept than on tire weight between these two combinations. I'm just going to stick with the Maxxis, as the braking and steering are far superior. But I'm not happy with the wear on the Dissector in the Dual compound!
Great video
Thanks!
Great review. I think I might try this tire. I'm a big fan of the Trail King. Have you thought about trying the DHR semi-slick?
Thanks mate! Love the trail kings. No but it would be a good experiment!
Great vid as always Phil! I don't recognize what trail was that @ 3:00?
This one is back in Sydney called old mans valley
I just got an Assegai for the front and a Dissector for the rear for extreme trail riding in Wisconsin. Im hoping its a good combo but I havent even put them on my wheels yet.
Great review! I saw some of the footage was in Daisy. Where else where you riding for review?
Also 11:38 small rim dint.
Fellow Sisk T8 rider. I'm looking to upgrade the tyres. Thanks for the video. What is your current back and front set up?
Hey mate I'm having great success with the minion ss on the rear ,I would like to hear your view on this tyre Cheers.
Use DHR II 3C @ front ftw!
Lacks the vagueness the DHF & Dissector transition channels introduce & rolls faster than the Assegai that is the "consistent tread" grip monster you are asking for
Agreed! Run the DHR upfront on mt trail bikes for this reason!
With this type of riding like on the film, which tyre would you as front, how about Nobby Nic any other suggestion, I am looking for 27.5 not to heavy but with good grip cause a have same ascend like descend,
Btw: one of the best reviews I saw on yt 👍
I’m running the new Nobby Nic Performance in a 29x2.25 and it has decent grip, is super predictable, and is only slightly slower rolling than my old Specialized Ground Control tires were. I got them for $22 each and couldn’t be happier with their performance in winter conditions.
Great to know! was that the new tread pattern?
@@trailtalkmtb6603 yes it is
Love the dissector on the rear and works well in mud on the rear fairly well going pair it with a wtb verdict on the front
Need to try the Verdict. How are you liking it?
@@trailtalkmtb6603 Had it on my old bike before it got robbed sadly.Loved the amount of grip on it and was predictable downsides was it was heavy and took a second to hook on when landing of a drop or jump which made wet landings a bit sketchy
Looks like a great tire for around Brisbane! Unfortunately I've got 19mm rims at the moment so that might not work so well but yeah great video as always, love the new layout.
Thanks mate! I have seen people run 2.5's on 21mm rims so might be able to get away with a 2.4. Wont be ideal tho. Thanks mate! Really appreciate it :)
Riding this on my yeti sb 150 as front and rear tyre, coming from dhf/dhr2, such a difference after a there or four hour tour you will defenitely appreciate this awesome tyres. Dry to loose ground absolutely Amazing performance!
Great review! How does the Trail King and Dissector compare in terms of rolling speed?
Very similar. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference to be honest
That was a killer video, since I've rarely heard mention about mixing different brands of tires, to which I started doing a few years ago due to availability problems. It opened up a new realm for me. I'm riding a hardtail with an Assegai in front and a Michelin AM in back. Try it, you'll like it. 👍 Aloha.
How is the rolling speed vs. Grip? I live in NM dessert with anywhere from loose over hard pack, hardback mixed with rocky terrain. I got a Maxxis agressor DD with a Assagai up front and it's too slow. Was told the DD aggressor was probably what I'm feeling. Was thinking of going to Dissector 2.4 Exo+ but I'm also open to ideas. Maxxis is so expensive.
@@2Philthy Speed is good but the grip that Michelin has is insane.
@@jameswilson2815 good to know. Most trails I ride are about half up and down. 8-12 miles is my usual so I need something yhat doesn't gas me getting up too much but grips going down and over rocks Ect.
@@2Philthy Sounds like you got it going. Many safe miles to you bra. Aloha🤙
Yeah yeah my boy
Hey mate I must say this video production is top notch. That intro was extremely impressive! Keep up the good work.
After a bit of advice if you wouldn't mind. Would you say there is a significant increase in rolling resistance from going up for a 2.4 to 2.6 wide tyre? I'm not a fan of that transition zone you were talking about where the tyre drifts a bit so thinking about doing a 2.6 DHF EXO front and rear but ride mainly Sydney trails like mill creek etc. I'm worried it'll be too slow so was looking at these disectors and perhaps a 2.6 will help with the drifting thing. 27.5 with 30mm rims so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I've ridden, front and rear, 29x2.6 DHR, Dissector, and Rekon tires. 2.6 DHR descends best but was incredibly heavy and slow rolling. 2.6 Dissector rolls faster than DHR but descends almost as well as the DHR but weighs about the same as DHR. 2.6 Rekon was the fastest rolling and the lightest but not as grippy as the DHR or Dissector. However, the Rekon was much more grippy than I expected. Ultimately, the 2.6 Rekon has become my all time favorite Trail tire. The 2.6 Rekon 60tpi/Dual/EXO/TR provides the perfect balance of weight, rolling speed, durability, grip, and flotation for the mountain/desert places I ride in the Southwest U.S. If I was going to use the Dissector or DHR, I would use the 2.4 width because I think they would be lighter and faster rolling. I also wouldn't recommend the 2.4 Rekon, as I don't think it would not be grippy enough in the 2.4 width.
Thanks mate! Really appreciate. Putting some more thought into the editing these days. To be honest I'm a fan of 2.4-2.5 in tyres. I find the 2.6 works well when you want a bit more volume like on a hardtail for comfort but on a dual suspension I'm not a fan. 2.4, 2.5 is more direct and more stable pushing into corners. If you want to reduce that transition and stick with maxxis a DHR upfront and Dissector in the rear is your best bet in the 2.4. Otherwise I think the schwalbe hans dampf in the 2.35 is great too.
@@trailtalkmtb6603 thanks mate. i think ill go for the dhr2 and dissector setup. What is going to be your tyre setup in future? Assegai front dissector rear?
I just took off the DHF 2.6 combo you were thinking about. Actually wasn't too slow, rolled descent with good traction but it has that transition zone too, which I don't like in the front but I did in the back because I slide my back tire around tight corners. I did Assagai 2.5 exo+ in front and aggressor 2.5 Dd In rear but the agressor DD is really heavy. I think I'm going to keep Assagai up front for cornering and try Dissector 2.4 exo+ rear. Possibly even another brand rear. Something that rolls fast but has descent grip. Cheers!
@@2Philthy I ran the 2.6 DHF EXO 3CT F/R because I got them for $40 a piece which was cheaper than buying 1 dissector lol. It was a decent setup but my cornering skills weren’t at a level to notice the transition zone . I have since moved to a dhr2 F and dissector R and love the setup although expensive. Rolls faster and not much of transition zone but tbh the rolling speed is only noticeable back to back, I forget about straight away. I don't think it would save me any appreciable time on the climbs
Hey, i have a question. Should I get the merida one sixty 400 or the one forty 600? They are both the same price.
Hey Phil, sorry if this had been covered but what are you running up front? My Hans dampfs are on the way out and am also have the T8. Dissector seems to be the front runner for the rear
hi, what is the best maxxis tire combinations for road and slight trails, also has fast rolling..thanks and ridesafe
For front tires, which do you recommend, 2.6 or 2.4 maxxgrip?
LCFS958. When? When? omg I can't wait.
Great tire review
Need to get the parts! It will be a bit more of a project over the next few months! Should have an update in a couple of months :)
@@trailtalkmtb6603 thanks for a timeline, appreciate it.
Might give these a go on the back of mine, just picked up my first full suspension bike yesterday a 2021 Norco Fluid FS3 and keen to do a tubeless setup
Great choice for the bike! Would suit it well :)
Would you say Suntour or X-fusion are better for affordable shocks and forks?
I have the 2.4 DC front and rear on my hard tail. Almost never lost traction, except on wet roots and sandy climbs. The front traction is good but I’m switching once summer comes.
To what tire in the front?
@@joeschmoe303 maxxis dissector
Pleasssssse do more actual riding videos, love your vids, ill be here for 100k
(Known u since 400 subs)
Getting around to it! Have a few projects to finish first. Getting to know the trails a little first :)
Awesome... no rush
I ride em front and rear on my XC bike while doing downhill rides
Phil can you please review the Norco Storm 1 because im looking for a new hardtail they is good but isn't a dual suspension so can you please review it or reply to me
Hey, have you checked out the new minion SS and reviewed them yet?
Maxxis dissector in the rear Assegai in the front.
What I'm running atm!
hey trail talk mtb just a quick question what would be the best hardtail i can get for under 800 aud i live in melbourne
Just got a dissector exo for my rear. How is the puncture resistance for the EXO and how is the long term durability?
Would you give me a nice maxxis combo for my 29 trance advanced? I ride mostly trail or light trail you may call it. I currently ride dhf front and ardent rear
Dissector in Maxx Grip is awesome front tyre, I'm sure Assegi has more grip but doesn't feel much different grip wise to DHF. Cannot comment in true mud but fine on wet roots and rocks on front but is a super grippy rear in short time had it on back.
Will have to try the Maxx Grip as that really is a game changes going from a maxx terra DHF to Maxx Grip too!
How did the sidewalls handle rocks
Good review, I've been running the dissector on the rear for both my bikes (SB150 & SB130). If Maxxis could fix the durability of the side knobs, it would be the best rear tire hands down for places like Southern California (where I ride) & dry dusty places in Australia.
Thanks mate! Yeah it is a bit of a let down. I think some DHF side knobs might help a little but it is a bit of a trait of the Maxx terra tyres
Specialized eliminator has solved all the dissector problems for me
Want to try the dissector, new big betty and MM. Just got off the michelin enduros, awesome tyres.
Want to try some michelins!
@@trailtalkmtb6603 michelin gum x front and rear is awesome!
how´s the rolling resistance on the wild enduros?
@@erraldstyler not much tbh, this is on hard pac tracks. Similar to a dhf, not as grippy but rolls quicker.
Wonder how it compares to the High Roller II. Tread pattern looks pretty similar if not a bit more aggressive.
How is this over roots & rocks ?
Great replacement for those who liked the old high roller.
@donrescas Is it an improvement over the high roller? I still use and love the high roller, but it’s time for a new set and I hesitate to try the dissector front and rear in 2.4 for trail riding on soft, rooty terrain.
@@martincloutier666 it's an improvement but not recommended as a front tire
hi mate would it be a good combo for a maxxis dissector 2.4 on the front and high roller ll 2.3 on the rear? for my dartmoor hornet and i got a 30mm rim. Just subscribe to your channel hehe shout out from the philippines!
Do you have any experience with the Specialized Eliminator as a rear tire?
No unfortunately! Will have to try some of the new specialized stuff!
Has anyone else struggled with side knobs folding and tearing in maxx Terra compound? I found they were destroyed long before centre tread. It got that bad that anything off camber made the rear drift down the camber.
Yeah they do wear a bit quicker as mentioned here. Especially on the smaller side knobs on the dissector. That being said I have had some bad experiences with other brands too. Seems like a difficult thing to get right
Yeah I heard that right after I posted it. Glad it's not just me though. I think it's made worse by local trails that are mostly rocks. I also agree that in maxx Terra the dissector grips better than aggressor but after trying a dual compound in hopes of a longer lasting dissector it falls on it face pretty quickly, especially trying to climb wet rocks, dhr2 and aggressor (both in dual compound) seemed miles better there. I do have one question though, only slightly related, are you able to confirm that maxxgrip compound uses lower durometer rubber on side tread AND centre tread? I went from maxx Terra assegai upfront to maxx grip and the bike got very noticably slower, local bike shops can't agree on whether maxxgrip vs Terra is a side knob or centre and side knob durometer change.
Pls can you do a review on the calibre line 20 or just tell me what you think of it
Cant get one in Aus unfortunately but it's a great bike for the $$$
@@trailtalkmtb6603 ye I’m live in the UK and I’ve ordered it
how about Dhf front dissector rear? have someone try this combo also?
This tire performed EXCELLENTLY on the rear of my Ibis Ripley….until the side knobs started tearing with relatively low mileage on it. The search continues…
I ride Dissector front and rear but I want to try another front tire that allows me to climb steep slopes better giving good traction and gives me more security descending. At the rear I think Dissector is the best but at the front it didn't give me confidence on descents, would you ride Rekon or DHR2 at the front with Dissector at the rear? Which would be the best combo with Dissector for steep climbs and safety on descents. Thank you!
Definitely the DHR
thank you thank you very much ! I will try that combo DHR2 front - Dissector rear 🔝
Is a good tire front and rear?
Did you encounter any wet conditions with it?
What time would you recommend for the roads and footpath‘s something like the WTB fast rollers
wtb thick slicks. Literally the slickest tyre you can find those conditions dont ask for a very complex tyre
Dont have too much experience here. I've only used the maxxis grifter
@@trailtalkmtb6603 ok
Running on my rear on a Merida 120
Perfect choice there! What are you running upfront?
Are all Maxxis tires tubeless or can some use tubes. What are the ones that can works with inner tubes.
Not all but id say most these days. They will say tubeless ready or TR if they are
Not all of them are tubeless ready, but they all work with tubes. Tubes are lighter, less messy and easier all round in my opinion, but then I'm over 100kg which means I can't really take advantage of the lower pressures you can run with tubeless. So there's no point in my trying. Plus I'm set in my ways now. I grew up with tubes, I can wrangle them, and I know they work. Why change?
Do you think the exo+ casing is overkill for normal trail riding?
If there are any sharp rocks or square edge hits exo+ is a must
could you do an aggressor review?
Gave a bit of a comparison here. Not a huge fan, especially compared to the dissector
@@trailtalkmtb6603 My experience with the Aggressor is quite different. After some back and forth (DHR II, Ardent) I am now running an Aggressor rear and a Dissector front. A rather good and fast combination for trails.
@@trailtalkmtb6603 What did you not like about the Aggressor?
Does anyone with a dissector find it throws rocks? I ran them front and back, like the rolling, didn't find inconsistent grip but they're too stiff. My favorite tire is the Forekaster 2.6, but I wish they'd put one more knob in the center of the triangle of knobs for decreasing rolling resistance. I'm using Rekon 2.6es right now, fast and light, but if a corner is loose it's untrustworthy because it won't bite. Rekons also don't grip rock surfaces as well unless they're totally flat like a road. I ride varied terrain, mostly flatish hardpack (let's be realistic, it's usually lower michigan) or rooty, but when possible I'll ride in the upper peninsula and go after the janky trails that have lots of exposed granite bedrock. I don't want to have to change tires, just to ride with friends who really only ride paved trails though, or to go on a trip up north. The Dissector 2.4 looked like a good option but I kept feeling like it was hanging up on square edged bumps, and I got hit in the face multiple times by flying rocks (was that the tire?) while riding "Flow" (flow in the oldschool sense, it'll rattle your teeth) in Marquette.
Yeah, mine do, but I find they all do to a certain extent. The gaps between the knobs determine the size of the rock the tyre picks up, and the Dissectors have some pretty sizeable gaps. I have a Cannondale Habit 1 29" for more serious trail riding, which I run Dissectors on, and a Fuji Pro carbon hardtail 26" for jumping/pump tracks and general fooling around. I've been impressed with the Vittoria Barzo on the Fuji for hardpack and concrete, and Continental Explorers for slightly looser trails, but the fact that the Fuji is way lighter and thus more chuckable than the Cannondale makes tyre choice less important. I should mention that the Dissectors don't inspire confidence at speed on the bitumen (even on a 29" wheel), and nor do they cope well with deep, loose gravel. But then nothing copes well with that. As for the Dissector throwing rocks, you'll find it becomes less of a problem as the tyre wears a bit. It's worth mentioning that the Vittoria Barzos don't seem to pick up stones, but it probably depends more on what surfaces you ride on than the tyres you run.
I found the dissector waaay too drifty, couldnt stop the thing from going sideways at all, although it was definitely controllable after it broke away, just couldnt get it to grip when i needed it, great tire for roosting and goofing off but not confidence inspiring on full speed descents imo.
Yeah a bit more confidence on the DHR is the rear at speed and less supported corners. I didnt mind the drifting too much but can definitely see why it would be too much for aggressive riders
@@trailtalkmtb6603 yeah DHR is a great tire, just dissapears on the back of my bike which is the greatest compliment I can give it, no surprises or quirks or transition zone, just digs in and does the work, although I am currently running it as a front tire and aggressor on the rear which I find to be extremely condition dependant, in any sort of moisture it turns to a slidey mess but in dusty dry conditions I find it quite grippy and fast rolling. Nice video man!
@@samc821 the DHR deserves more love. Definitely underated compared to the DHF and to be honest I prefer it upfront. Minimal transition as you said. Thanks for tuning in man!
I notice the channel more on the dhf than the dissector
Interesting. I notice it on both tyres for sure. I think I might notice it on the dissector a bit more because the overall level of grip is a bit less, so you might be right there
When I swapped my 2.3 DHF to 2.4 Dissector Max Grip on front Dissector is better in every way. Maybe different in mud but Dissector amazing on front from grade 2 to grade 5 steep tech trails, but lots personal preference.
@@niteryder50 totally agree!
rear REKON / front DHR II?
rear REKON / front Dissector?
@junald datuin I love the DHR II but I would say the Dissector matches better with the Rekon in the rear for the weight and lower rolling resistance..... Dissector / front DHR II FTW??? I wish they made a 2.35 Rekon 120 TPI because you would get better weight and rolling than the 2.4
In the thumbnail is the rim dinged?
Yes the rim has a small ding, still works perfectly fine :)
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This is your last video on this channel!? Where can i see new videoes from you?
I've been super busy with work and still trying to find a place to live up in Brisbane. Once I find something and setup a new studio, it will be back to normal :)
Exo + or dual compound? I am puncture paranoid
Hi there, they are 2 different things. Exo and Exo + are the casing, while dual compound, 3c maxx terra etc are the compound of the tire. For the small weight penalty, I would probably run the Exo+ for a little more peace of mind but if you are doing Enduro and Downhill the DD or DH casing would be better.
Thanks! Love the review vids, the more the better...2 bikes, brakes, pedals and now tyres thanks to your channel..bicycle sonline must love you
Dissector 2.6 in the back?? Or too much
I don't get the point of this Tyre. Is it any different or better than a high roller 2? Side knobs are identical, can anyone compare the center knobs of both and has real life experience?
Everything functions properly czcams.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Nothing was damaged in the box aside from a decal on the fork. The decal was missing a piece of a corner but I ended up peeling them off anyways. Assembly is easy BUT make sure you tune up the derailleurs. Both the front and rear need adjusting. I'd advise going to a bike shop but I opted out and put in 10+ hours with the help of CZcams. Ended up fraying a shifter cable but all in all I learned from the experience. The Brakes work well but the front caliper needs adjusting or at least mine did because the rotor was rubbing against the pads. Make sure you swap out the seat, grips, and pedals. For the short run you'll be fine though. I've read that this bike isn't built yet for hard trails but I just need it for the city. PA has some of the worst roads and being in a mountain this was a great choice. Worth the investment!
Agressor rear dissector front your welcome 🙏🏿
It came on my commencal mega ht. I am not sure I like it at all. In all fairness I like fast rolling tires like the specialized slaughter.
Aswell
2:45. I see yours don't wear well either!
I reckon you kind of said 'kind of' about 100 times, kind of!
Think you're kind of right
@@trailtalkmtb6603 😊😉
who are the two schmucks who disliked :( I don't approve
Agreed! 🧐
Maxxis = WARPED TYRES😢