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  • čas přidán 12. 04. 2019
  • Thanks for watching part one of the series! Sorry for my terrible English and typos....
    You can find the second and final part here: • Sly 2 Alpha Difference...
    --Sly 1 E3 Demo Differences: • Sly E3 2002 Demo Diffe...
    --Sly 2 July 2004 Prototype Playlist: • Sly 2 July 2004 Prototype
    --Sly 2 March 2004 Prototype Playlist: • Sly 2 March 2004 Proto...
    --Sly 3 August 2005 Prototype Playlist: • Sly 3 August 2005 Prot...
    Sly Cooper Modding Discord: / discord

Komentáře • 105

  • @Charles-e4x
    @Charles-e4x Před 4 lety +114

    I noticed in the final game, after you bug Dimitri's office, Dimitri had dialogue referring to a helicopter as his "eyes in the sky".
    I was a little confused as to what he was referring to, but it turns out, it was leftover dialogue from the Alpha here. Very interesting.

  • @rubenrubio6875
    @rubenrubio6875 Před 4 lety +69

    Murray's eyes in the alpha still haunt me to this day.

  • @ordelian7795
    @ordelian7795 Před 4 lety +76

    The loot inside the buildings makes the layout of the interiors make more sense. I remember finding all those hidden areas and found them empty without purpose.

    • @Rakkki
      @Rakkki Před 4 lety

      @zKapeh no tää

    • @bortsa5154
      @bortsa5154 Před 4 lety +1

      zKapeh no eipä kauheesti yllätä no koska sly

  • @lucareinikainen2637
    @lucareinikainen2637 Před 4 lety +22

    I dont know why but this is very fascinating, its so cool to see this alpha footage

  • @kdog3k
    @kdog3k Před 4 lety +48

    Bentley's original health bar is still in the final game in episode 2. I always wondered why it was stylised so differently.

    • @2diefor
      @2diefor Před 3 lety +4

      I noticed that too, maybe they forgot

    • @jjnet123
      @jjnet123 Před rokem +4

      It's also the health bar on the sly 2 demo on ratchet and clank 3's disc.

  • @gelato101
    @gelato101 Před rokem +3

    22:33 Fun fact, this different dialogue lasted long enough to get a proper recording, it was still in the demo that was included with Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal

  • @lunaticlemon2997
    @lunaticlemon2997 Před 3 lety +17

    interesting that i never thought they would have sly 2 models in the same style of sly 1. it just goes to show that the development evolved greatly since the alpha version. I didn't even know this existed til now. Wish stuff like this caught more attention. Especially since it's crucial because it is something we have never seen before. In fact I didn't even know an alpha build or prototypes existed, I always thought gaming companies just threw their stuff away like Japanese developers had done in the past. Real interesting stuff.

  • @FastTheSonic
    @FastTheSonic Před 3 lety +12

    10:08 In this room in the final game, you can still explore the indoor balcony, and even use a door, and I always thought to myself "What's this doing here? Why can I go here?"
    And now I finally know why. Loot.

  • @Abomdosnow
    @Abomdosnow Před 5 lety +26

    22:29 It's like an Internet parody, especially with Murray's voice, lol.

  • @ultra-vivi
    @ultra-vivi Před rokem +3

    26:59 I noticed one of the green barrels is leaking. So my thinking is originally they would be broken during the fight and begin flooding the floor with that hazardous water, forcing sly and Dimitri to take the fight upstairs. Also explains how Dimitri kinda magically ends up on the second floor after you beat him.

  • @loganpaschedag8829
    @loganpaschedag8829 Před 5 lety +11

    The helicopter was a neat little thing to have. They should’ve kept it in as a an emergency exit ticket almost.
    But still interesting stuff here since I grown up with this franchise so this gives me a lot of nostalgia ❤️🤘🍕

    • @weshansen7892
      @weshansen7892 Před 3 lety +4

      Not sure if the files go used, but on the final release there are audio clips of Dimitri mentioning his chopper

  • @FridiNaTor
    @FridiNaTor Před 5 lety +46

    There were things to steal on the ledges? That explains why in the final game it just feels like a pointless easter egg kind of thing.

  • @FireJace
    @FireJace Před 2 lety +4

    I always wondered why there was an upstairs section at the end of "Breaking & Entering." Thanks for clearing that up, Gou!

  • @SlyCooperReloadCoded
    @SlyCooperReloadCoded Před 5 lety +129

    270 dollars put to good use, I'd say.

    • @otakunthevegan4206
      @otakunthevegan4206 Před 4 lety +38

      A god damn hero to the fanbase and community I'd say.

    • @UndertakerU2ber
      @UndertakerU2ber Před 4 lety +8

      @SlyCooperReloadCoded
      Hopefully he makes the money back (and more) with CZcams ad revenue.

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  Před 4 lety +13

      @@UndertakerU2ber I was not involved in this release. It was SlyCooperReloadCoded, Thatawesomecat and madmarsrocks.

    • @TheMaan2008
      @TheMaan2008 Před 3 lety

      Wait, what did/do you mean??

    • @SlyCooperReloadCoded
      @SlyCooperReloadCoded Před 3 lety +13

      @@TheMaan2008 I chipped in 270 dollars to buy the disc that contained this build of the game.

  • @hiphop4148
    @hiphop4148 Před 3 lety +3

    I love Sly 2 man. Awesome job posting the alpha version to this game. I enjoyed watching this a lot. I hope you have more upcoming sly 1, 2 and 3 videos coming soon. 🙂

  • @CoffeeSuccubus
    @CoffeeSuccubus Před 4 lety +6

    Murray sounding... like he's trying to be Sly is so weird XD

  • @level98bearhuntingarmor

    Cool to see that there's more to this game than I thought when I played it a long time ago

  • @zay7341
    @zay7341 Před 4 lety +5

    to be honest i really liked the first pause menu 4:33

  • @SlyCooperReloadCoded
    @SlyCooperReloadCoded Před 5 lety +8

    For anyone waiting for Part 2, it was getting close to completion, but then Sony Vegas did what it's known for doing and corrupted the project file. That's the only reason for the delay that I'm aware of.

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  Před 5 lety +1

      Yeap that's the main reason. There's more stuff going on but that's the main reason. It's about 50% done right now so hopefully it's gonna be done soon

  • @optccaptain
    @optccaptain Před rokem

    4:32 Carmelita killed me XD
    Thanks for sharing this video!

  • @deathless2554
    @deathless2554 Před 4 lety +7

    16:00 Murray's voice lmao

  • @reptilian5212
    @reptilian5212 Před 2 lety +1

    Love this game with all my heart brody

  • @MiaKhalifa19474
    @MiaKhalifa19474 Před 11 měsíci

    The amount of editing in this video is tip tier! Sad i came latw tk the party

  • @crisismoon880
    @crisismoon880 Před 4 lety +2

    I freaking love this

  • @gojira5157
    @gojira5157 Před 3 lety +2

    tbh i wish they kept in the flying glitch. Would've made for fun speed run tech

  • @oergpoerg4658
    @oergpoerg4658 Před 4 lety +3

    4:34 Huh, I remember the instruction manual talking about maps, which do not appear in the game. Guess they were cut late in the development. I wonder if they were completed at all.

  • @scottjefferson4048
    @scottjefferson4048 Před 3 lety +1

    such a menacing thumbnail...

  • @eddiejonesiii6254
    @eddiejonesiii6254 Před rokem

    15:08 Damn, man, my dude just BOOKED it! Eat your heart out, Sonic The Hedgehog! XD

  • @kawaiibrarian
    @kawaiibrarian Před 3 lety +3

    I remember reading somewhere that SuckerPunch productions was originally planning to not rehire Chris Murphy (voice of Murray) because they wanted a much more heroic voice for the hippo (hence why he has a different voice here).

    • @t.v.rockwell4504
      @t.v.rockwell4504 Před 3 lety +2

      That was true, but Sucker Punch weren't too happy with any of the guys that tried to replace Chris, so Chris got the job back.

    • @weshansen7892
      @weshansen7892 Před 3 lety +5

      @@t.v.rockwell4504 thank god, his sly 2 voice was really good. Unfortunately it got downgraded in 3 and onward

    • @dreel37
      @dreel37 Před 2 lety

      @@weshansen7892 Did he have a different VC in sly 3?

    • @kawaiibrarian
      @kawaiibrarian Před 2 lety +1

      @@dreel37 Nope, Chris Murphy still voices Murray in Sly 3.

    • @ultra-vivi
      @ultra-vivi Před rokem

      @@weshansen7892 it’s sad but I feel it’s mostly a failure of the writers penning him into a corner of “destruction is cool!”, unfortunately they made him rather childish and simplistic even though he had a lot of growth in Sly 2 that kind of got reverted.

  • @Artist626
    @Artist626 Před 2 lety +1

    6:40 explains so much... in the remastered version during the final Paris mission when you bring down the peacock sign and have to defend the truck from goons I noticd if you spammed the circle button sly would just keep flying up instead of down (why j spammed the circle button couldn't tell ya). I thought it was a bug or glitch cool to see it was an original mechanic that was scrapped and somehow must have made its way into the game in just that one moment in the remastered version my gusse by mistake. Regardless neat to know there was intention behind that in early demos.

  • @CidSilverWing
    @CidSilverWing Před 5 lety +3

    Lovely stuff :3

  • @dragonrushhurricanetracker251

    24:40
    At that point, we’re basically playing Call of Duty instead of Sly Cooper

  • @BIGwillTHEGAME
    @BIGwillTHEGAME Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks

  • @St_Rizla
    @St_Rizla Před rokem

    I noticed the interior of the nightclub disco has a big window with the river flowing against it, it doesn't match the outside of the map in the final game but now I know why

  • @WhosMediic
    @WhosMediic Před 5 lety +6

    2:50 the door animation?

  • @Zay2flyy
    @Zay2flyy Před 3 lety

    this video is underrated

  • @dadyos
    @dadyos Před 2 lety

    I like how Bentley sounds like how he does in sly 1

  • @kacperciesowski3344
    @kacperciesowski3344 Před 2 lety +1

    @Gou 3d Coin counter was reused in Sly 4

    • @csharp3884
      @csharp3884 Před rokem

      I was thinking the same thing lol

  • @MahoganyVinceArchive
    @MahoganyVinceArchive Před 5 lety +6

    Is this being played on an emulator or on actual hardware? Is there any external software needed to access the demo menu to start the game? If not, is this build open to people who are willing to give it a go on real PS2 hardware? I want to see if those textures are also corrupted on real hardware, or if the health bar occasionally glitches in the same manner

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  Před 5 lety +2

      This footage is from an emulator. You can download a debug enabled patched version of the iso on hiddenpalace. Pretty sure I linked it in the description. I have run it on my Ps2 though. The texture looks like that there too. The health bar glitching is cause by pcsx2

  • @DavideOnekenobi
    @DavideOnekenobi Před 4 lety +1

    I think that a lot of those style choices were better than the ones on the original game 🤔

  • @Thomasfan89
    @Thomasfan89 Před měsícem

    I'd like to know. How did you get this? how are you playing this? and how can I play it/install it? It's blown my mind.

  • @dannyjr374
    @dannyjr374 Před 2 lety

    The cutscene artstyle followed more sly 1s artstyle cool

  • @DeadFace342
    @DeadFace342 Před rokem

    Where can i get alpha version? Or is it even possible? as a big sly 2 fan it would be awesome to just play around in this!

  • @Daywalker1233
    @Daywalker1233 Před 11 měsíci

    Sly in the alpha Paris intro kinda sounded like Tobey Maguire.

  • @corneliusthegreat6794
    @corneliusthegreat6794 Před 2 lety

    Cool

  • @ColonelLige
    @ColonelLige Před 3 lety +1

    Carmalita looked a lot better in the pause menu in alpha.

  • @QueSeraSeraaaa
    @QueSeraSeraaaa Před 2 lety

    Glad they cut the helicopter from the final game, that looked pointless just for entering a courtyard, thing that is done better in the final version.
    Strangely, the rats had a pink beret in my demo, i don’t think it was the alpha, the few missions in it were from the final version.

  • @melissacrittenden2078
    @melissacrittenden2078 Před 2 lety

    Imagine they put the prototype In the ps3 shop

  • @MonstrMash123458943
    @MonstrMash123458943 Před 4 lety

    is the sly modding discord down

  • @Azrael-Legna
    @Azrael-Legna Před 3 lety

    Sly's voice in this sounds kinda sinister. I don't know if that's the right word, but I hope you get what I mean.

  • @sambesiili4698
    @sambesiili4698 Před 4 lety

    10:32
    So that's why i can get there...

  • @ZekeBrewer
    @ZekeBrewer Před 3 měsíci

    At least in Alpha you could replay jobs 😂

  • @SepmikGaming1
    @SepmikGaming1 Před 3 lety

    is this public? how do i get it?

  • @melissacrittenden2078
    @melissacrittenden2078 Před 2 lety

    Or they put it for sale

  • @SlyJak2
    @SlyJak2 Před 5 lety +1

    Part 2 when?

  • @sergentpoid5764
    @sergentpoid5764 Před rokem

    Mmm is there any way to have it for free online?

  • @gotigilles1
    @gotigilles1 Před 4 lety

    NTSC dot not exist the french version of ps2 , only PAL have french version too bad for me i wanna play french version to my ps2 Region NTSC :\

  • @claudiapawlak3971
    @claudiapawlak3971 Před 4 lety

    How did you get a hold of this?

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  Před 4 lety +3

      A couple of friends bought it from a private seller. The .iso is public, so anyone can play it.

    • @claudiapawlak3971
      @claudiapawlak3971 Před 4 lety

      @@GouStoulos Incredible - thank you so so SO much for uploading this!

    • @melissacrittenden2078
      @melissacrittenden2078 Před 2 lety

      OK what emulator did you use and also can you make a tutorial

  • @DanceGavinDanceIsBae
    @DanceGavinDanceIsBae Před 8 měsíci

    So the original Neyla was THICC, huh?

  • @The_D_ray
    @The_D_ray Před 4 lety

    I would kinda appreciate all that loot. In the release version it's really hard and boring to "grind" money.
    If they add all of that loot, it could have been way better for me.

  • @adrianmania173
    @adrianmania173 Před rokem +1

    📲🦝YTLBNH😱

  • @Shrev64
    @Shrev64 Před 5 lety +4

    your english is the very terrible and good
    your video very nice though