This is a great video. I bought a bike with 600 miles on the clock for dirt cheap recently, it hadn't run since 2015. I quickly figured out the duel pump was the issue. Followed this video to the tee, got it running after cleaning the pump, Now I have basically a brand new bike. Time to flip! Thanks guys.
I'm glad Google led me to your video. I've been having whining noises (goes up with revs) on my KTM Duke for a month or so now and I was dreading having to buy a new pump. I didn't realise you could clean them! 47,000 miles so no doubt that strainer/mesh has some utter filth stuck to it. Nice guide too by the way. I'll be sure to follow this when I tackle the job (soon!). Cheers from England! Two wheels!
For removing all that rust from REALLY old gas tanks, I've had terrific luck with one of the water-based iron chelation type rust removers like Metal Rescue. I suppose muriatic acid would get you off to a much faster start, but the chelation type rust removers are very gentle and do a great job. When done, drain and dry in the sun, and you're good to go.
Will you go over how to clean the tank? I think it would be very enlightening. There are a bunch of videos on cleaning old tanks by adding nots, bolts, and all sort of metal plus some sort of acid. With many of these newer bikes they have much more complex and complicated tanks with things that could break. Please, please, please consider a video with the proper way to clean out any rust or residue inside of a tank that has sat! Your channel is the best and I hope you will continue with the how to videos
Thanks for that.... super familiar with carbs, but not seen this with FI. I have one that is the in the same boat. My street bike gets way less riding than 2 stroke off road bike, but looking to ride it a bit more as it warms up. Right now is the perfect weather with 60s in the afternoons!
thumbs up fore the comment on dumping gasoline. Maybe that could be a topic witch could be added fore future videos. Posible recycling and upcycling of motorcycle parts. Would really appreciate.
Very good video , useful . No mention though of the tiny cylindrical metal filter that lies inside the fuel pump housing, just after where the pump head enters the plastic housing as on my Bandit 1250 . The tea bag filter stops most of the crud but I'm having to remove pump and blast carb cleaner through the fuel line into the pump housing to remove a very small amount of dark silt . When I can easily blow through the fuel line I know I'm good to go again . I wish that darn secondary filter was external as I've had to clean it out more than once . Let me know if anyone has managed to combat the clogging second filter . The tea bag at the rear of pump remains good, I clean it as a matter of course anyway each time the secondary gets silted and I loose the ability to exploit full revs . Rob Stone .
Thank you very much for that comment. My fuel pump started making noises and my bike ran not as smooth as it used to. After i installed a new pump the viton grommet got pushed out of its place. I wondered why... Now i know it: the internal fuel filter is clogged therefore the pump builds up a really high pressure which resulted in the grommet giving up. This weekend i will reverse flush everything and i'm confident to solve the problem this way. I wonder why I had never heard about taking care of the internal filter before. This makes a lot of sense: The filter on the sucking side of the pump is quite coarse and will surely let fine particles pass through towards the internal paper filter. The internal filter isn't meant to be maintained and a whole fuel pump unit costs about 800bucks... Thank you for saving me a lot of money!
@@Payder my story actually carried on with that cylindrical filter blocking with super fine silt after less than 1000 miles . I eventually speared the fine filter in the housing and installed a Ford focus fuel filter outside the tank using the high pressure quick release fuel line fittings purchased on ebay . The car filter is just small enough to live on top of the engine , under the tank and to the untrained eye looks like it should be there . I used a rubber strip around the filter to stop and rubbing on the engine and nestled it away from the lowest part of the fuel tank. Power has remained 100% and not had to touch the pump ever since . Regards R.stone
im surprised theres no fuel filter attached to that pump. my bike was running poorly and hard to start, i blew it out, rinsed it out, and got a handful of black sandy sediment out from it and wow what a difference
Question:- Can a fuel pump be tweaked? By tweaking, I mean if it is possible to make the fuel pump supply more gasoline to the fuel injector. Because, my mileage has dropped drastically and the mechanic told me that he increased the supply of fuel pump to the injector so that I get a bit more acceleration. I am getting a bit more acceleration but my mileage has dropped significantly. Please help!!
Unfortunately the problem with pumps lies elsewhere. Both MC and the workshops fail to grasp the true cause. Despite the gunk before the pump the problem lies inside the paper filter AFTER the pump inside the white plastic which you have to reverse flush to get your bike back to full power or replace if you flush and does not come back to life. Have successfully fixed many bikes and saved a lot of money to their owners this way.
@@RonaldOsure Seperate the pump from the filter , take care the o-ring inside also called (google viton grommet) that sits between the two so that it is not torn as you will need to replace. Sometimes the problems lies just there. Take your fuel pump motor and a clean source of fuel connect it to the exit of the fuel filter with a custom hose and run it with a power supply or a battery taking all precautions for a fire hazard. Take care of yourself when handling fuel. i have made an assembly with an old fuel pump on a static bench and just flush about 5 liters every turn until the output comes clean. you can filter your fuel so you dont waste it use coffee filter so i can see the cleaning process. never failed me so far.
Hi i put a hayabusa engine in my dune buggy , I finally got my Busa dune buggy running , and it sounds great but when I start to push the clutch pedal in it makes a grinding noise like if you were you're trying to shift without the clutch ? would you have any idea what it could be
Just found your video and have a question for the expert: I have a KTM 500, if/when my fuel pump fails on the trail, if I have a backup petcock installed and connect that fuel line to the carb. Would the trickle of fuel enable me to ride the bike for a short while so I'm not stuck in the middle of nowhere? Thx
even when fuel pump is removed, there's still gonna be some fuel left in the notches and corner of the tank, especislly if it has weird shape. use a hand pump to remove them all.
Cool. You might be onto something here.. how to do the difficult maintenance tasks. How bout wheel bearings as a topic? How to check, how to change, best grease, worst grease, why greases shouldn't be mixed, e5c
Yeah same here - I agree it sucks. I do have a detached two-car garage that I rent a few blocks away from home however there's no electricity, lights, water, etc at the garage so it sucks I have to do everything with hand tools and battery-powered lights and tools. I'm trying to save up to get either a gas-powered air-compressor or generator as that would help a LOT.
How can you clean the high pressure side of the fuel pump? The part sealed in the can…. black plastic part… my fuel filter was full of rust .. I tried to clean the tank with vinegar & it worked for a while.. except had a bad sputter an hard time start..but rust came back.. now I have crank no start..I’m thinking maybe injectors clogged too..If the fuel pump will power on; is it still good???
Sir can we do a video in a small displacment bike upgrade... How to make it work like the stock... To avoid over heating... I ride r15 v3 155cc here in the phillippines it got 58mm piston i want to upgrade it to 65mm and the reat is stock even the fi...
i wished my bike had a simple fuel pump and line. the design of the benelli tnt 600 is under designed like way too many fuel line. I actually broke the nipple off :(. Expensive mistake
Hi, I have a Yamaha R6, 2004 & I have started to face an issue recently. I would need your help to diagnose the problem, the total kilometers I have run my bike are 12,000KM ONLY since I got it as I wasn’t riding regularly. For about a month now, I have been riding it regularly. I always do a normal maintenance like Oil change with filter /coolant & battery. yesterday when I left home I felt the bike is heavy and it’s not running smoothly. Once I stopped at the traffic light and released gas it turned off & when I tried to turn it back on it wasn’t really working without taking extra gas. All I could do is just give it extra gas and get back home. If anyone of you can help guide me and figure out the issue then please do let me know from where to start. Spark plugs ? Airfilter ?or Fuel pump/ filter ? Please help, Many thanks!
the best thing to do is to buy a workshop manual. That will have troubleshooting guides for most problems including this one. one quick way to see if it is a fuel system problem is to remove the tank and airbox then spray some gasoline with a squirt bottle directly into carburetors ( you can buy spray cans which do this from any auto shop ). If engine runs when spraying fuel, problem lies in fuel system, fuel pump, fuel line vacuum line etc.
When you get older you may find out how complex life can be. As a 24/7 caregiver for my wife, I can't even get out of the house for an hour to mow the lawn. Yeah, you can't always get what you want. Hurts my soul a lot, too...
@Ralph Waters im late in life in my early 40s lol, I think I understand the complexity of life. I sell cars for a living and work from 4am-6pm Monday through Saturday. I still make time to ride. In your case maybe hire someone to watch her for whatever time you can. If you really want to ride, you’ll find the time. Kinda reminds me when I hear lazy Americans say they are too busy to go to the gym.
True, it's very strong and damages most plastics but fuel pump components could be more resilient to chemicals. Best to makes sure and try it out on safe spots or old parts.
@@chocolate_squiggle he wouldn't want more water content in your gasoline and also as ethanol sits and ages it gets to a gummy consistency which clogs up the lines and everything else in the system
This is dumb. You go over everything but completely don't mention the high pressure filter. The strainer is only that a strainer. The piece that the pump motor goes into is the high pressure filter. That is where most the sediment and dirt piles up. Clean and blow it out once and you will see how dirty they get.
ONLY in the us , Gasoline or Gas as you Yanks call it . Petrol for us Aussies , , you guys must have shit fuels in the States, you can have fuel sit in a closed Fuel tank here for 5 years plus and it is still fine. Your problem over there is the crap that is added like the catylist to keep Alcohol in suspension.
Is this for real? I never had any problems letting my bike sit for ages in the UK, and I've had a bike sit for almost a year here in NZ and it seemed fine. Now I've let it happen again only it's been 2-3 years now and these American videos have had me terrified to even turn the key and let the pump prime. I've been watching all sorts of videos to learn how to drain the tank, hope it's not too rusted, clean out fuel pumps, filters, hoses going to throttle bodies etc etc. Since we're neighbours and probably have the same fuel standards, maybe I should just crank it over and see what happens. After all if everything is already gummed up I'll just have to fix it, by doing all the cleaning I was going to do anyway, right?
This is a great video. I bought a bike with 600 miles on the clock for dirt cheap recently, it hadn't run since 2015. I quickly figured out the duel pump was the issue. Followed this video to the tee, got it running after cleaning the pump, Now I have basically a brand new bike. Time to flip! Thanks guys.
I’m so glad you are caring on with MC Garage. These tips are a great help even if you do t do your own work. Thank you
I'm glad Google led me to your video. I've been having whining noises (goes up with revs) on my KTM Duke for a month or so now and I was dreading having to buy a new pump. I didn't realise you could clean them! 47,000 miles so no doubt that strainer/mesh has some utter filth stuck to it.
Nice guide too by the way. I'll be sure to follow this when I tackle the job (soon!). Cheers from England! Two wheels!
For removing all that rust from REALLY old gas tanks, I've had terrific luck with one of the water-based iron chelation type rust removers like Metal Rescue. I suppose muriatic acid would get you off to a much faster start, but the chelation type rust removers are very gentle and do a great job. When done, drain and dry in the sun, and you're good to go.
wow that's impressive i'll do the same method with referencing in my native language as a video ! thanks a lot for the great work
Will you go over how to clean the tank? I think it would be very enlightening. There are a bunch of videos on cleaning old tanks by adding nots, bolts, and all sort of metal plus some sort of acid. With many of these newer bikes they have much more complex and complicated tanks with things that could break. Please, please, please consider a video with the proper way to clean out any rust or residue inside of a tank that has sat! Your channel is the best and I hope you will continue with the how to videos
This is so simple and easy to understand. Kudos guys🎉🎉
Thanks for that.... super familiar with carbs, but not seen this with FI. I have one that is the in the same boat. My street bike gets way less riding than 2 stroke off road bike, but looking to ride it a bit more as it warms up. Right now is the perfect weather with 60s in the afternoons!
Hi, which is cleaner brand or spec you are using to clean the strainer and pump
thumbs up fore the comment on dumping gasoline. Maybe that could be a topic witch could be added fore future videos. Posible recycling and upcycling of motorcycle parts. Would really appreciate.
Very good video , useful . No mention though of the tiny cylindrical metal filter that lies inside the fuel pump housing, just after where the pump head enters the plastic housing as on my Bandit 1250 . The tea bag filter stops most of the crud but I'm having to remove pump and blast carb cleaner through the fuel line into the pump housing to remove a very small amount of dark silt . When I can easily blow through the fuel line I know I'm good to go again . I wish that darn secondary filter was external as I've had to clean it out more than once . Let me know if anyone has managed to combat the clogging second filter . The tea bag at the rear of pump remains good, I clean it as a matter of course anyway each time the secondary gets silted and I loose the ability to exploit full revs . Rob Stone .
Thank you very much for that comment. My fuel pump started making noises and my bike ran not as smooth as it used to. After i installed a new pump the viton grommet got pushed out of its place. I wondered why... Now i know it: the internal fuel filter is clogged therefore the pump builds up a really high pressure which resulted in the grommet giving up. This weekend i will reverse flush everything and i'm confident to solve the problem this way. I wonder why I had never heard about taking care of the internal filter before. This makes a lot of sense: The filter on the sucking side of the pump is quite coarse and will surely let fine particles pass through towards the internal paper filter.
The internal filter isn't meant to be maintained and a whole fuel pump unit costs about 800bucks...
Thank you for saving me a lot of money!
@@Payder my story actually carried on with that cylindrical filter blocking with super fine silt after less than 1000 miles . I eventually speared the fine filter in the housing and installed a Ford focus fuel filter outside the tank using the high pressure quick release fuel line fittings purchased on ebay . The car filter is just small enough to live on top of the engine , under the tank and to the untrained eye looks like it should be there . I used a rubber strip around the filter to stop and rubbing on the engine and nestled it away from the lowest part of the fuel tank. Power has remained 100% and not had to touch the pump ever since . Regards R.stone
@@robertstone4025 yep, if cleaning alone won't work for me I'm gonna install an external inline filter and get rid of the internal one. Thanks buddy!
im surprised theres no fuel filter attached to that pump. my bike was running poorly and hard to start, i blew it out, rinsed it out, and got a handful of black sandy sediment out from it and wow what a difference
If I flushed my tank with white vinegar with the fuel pump still installed do I need to now replace my fuel pump?
Question:- Can a fuel pump be tweaked? By tweaking, I mean if it is possible to make the fuel pump supply more gasoline to the fuel injector.
Because, my mileage has dropped drastically and the mechanic told me that he increased the supply of fuel pump to the injector so that I get a bit more acceleration. I am getting a bit more acceleration but my mileage has dropped significantly.
Please help!!
Awesome content guys
Unfortunately the problem with pumps lies elsewhere. Both MC and the workshops fail to grasp the true cause.
Despite the gunk before the pump the problem lies inside the paper filter AFTER the pump inside the white plastic which you have to reverse flush to get your bike back to full power or replace if you flush and does not come back to life.
Have successfully fixed many bikes and saved a lot of money to their owners this way.
This is spot on. Care to explain how you do the reverse flush?
@@RonaldOsure Seperate the pump from the filter , take care the o-ring inside also called (google viton grommet) that sits between the two so that it is not torn as you will need to replace.
Sometimes the problems lies just there.
Take your fuel pump motor and a clean source of fuel connect it to the exit of the fuel filter with a custom hose and run it with a power supply or a battery taking all precautions for a fire hazard.
Take care of yourself when handling fuel.
i have made an assembly with an old fuel pump on a static bench and just flush about 5 liters every turn until the output comes clean. you can filter your fuel so you dont waste it use coffee filter so i can see the cleaning process.
never failed me so far.
@@st3rg Great!
true. always clean it in reverse. always works a treat.
Do you have to hook up the pump in reverse?
Great video you have,I watch something good,I also sent LIKE👍
Hi i put a hayabusa engine in my dune buggy , I finally got my Busa dune buggy running , and it sounds great but when I start to push the clutch pedal in it makes a grinding noise like if you were you're trying to shift without the clutch ? would you have any idea what it could be
Thanks. What if the fuel git into the system and now it's not starting. How can I clean it so new fuel will enter?
Just found your video and have a question for the expert: I have a KTM 500, if/when my fuel pump fails on the trail, if I have a backup petcock installed and connect that fuel line to the carb. Would the trickle of fuel enable me to ride the bike for a short while so I'm not stuck in the middle of nowhere? Thx
even when fuel pump is removed, there's still gonna be some fuel left in the notches and corner of the tank, especislly if it has weird shape. use a hand pump to remove them all.
waiting to see how you remove rust or corrosion, my tank has rust in it and clogged a pump before
Put like 10 nuts in there and shake it around but make sure when ur done u count all 10 nuts have came out u don’t want any loose nuts in ur gas tank
Cool. You might be onto something here.. how to do the difficult maintenance tasks. How bout wheel bearings as a topic? How to check, how to change, best grease, worst grease, why greases shouldn't be mixed, e5c
That's nice but i need a big garage , Unfortunately i live in Apartment
Yeah same here - I agree it sucks. I do have a detached two-car garage that I rent a few blocks away from home however there's no electricity, lights, water, etc at the garage so it sucks I have to do everything with hand tools and battery-powered lights and tools. I'm trying to save up to get either a gas-powered air-compressor or generator as that would help a LOT.
@@MatthewJFitzpatrick But i try at least to do something which is possible on the bike, only lubricant spray hahaha
How about the fuel line? What’s the best way can you use carburetor cleaner on the rubber hoses?
How can you clean the high pressure side of the fuel pump? The part sealed in the can…. black plastic part… my fuel filter was full of rust .. I tried to clean the tank with vinegar & it worked for a while.. except had a bad sputter an hard time start..but rust came back.. now I have crank no start..I’m thinking maybe injectors clogged too..If the fuel pump will power on; is it still good???
that was great but but can you actually clean or do work on the fuel pump itself?
Would be helpful if video on Single vs Dual Throttle cable is uploaded
Carb cleaner will F up O-rings. And there are HP filters in the pressure regulator area too on Suzuki's.
Sir can we do a video in a small displacment bike upgrade... How to make it work like the stock... To avoid over heating... I ride r15 v3 155cc here in the phillippines it got 58mm piston i want to upgrade it to 65mm and the reat is stock even the fi...
In Canada, we have to store for several months in some areas. Many of us use Aviation Gas for the winter in many of our machines. What do you think?
should be fine, it's the sitting ethanol that causes the crud so as long as it has low ethanol content you should be good
should be fine, it's the sitting ethanol that causes the crud so as long as it has low ethanol content you should be good
Good video love it 😊
LiFePO4 batteries are awesomely stable.
Cool vid
Another noob question - how can the wires connected to the fuel pump be exposed? No danger of sparking leading to an explosion?
The voltage is too low for arcing from any notable distance.
Gasoline isn’t conductive, rather an insulator, so the wires doesn’t need to be covered. Also when it sparks, which is unlikely, nothing will happen.
@@AbnormalWrench Thank you for your response. Makes total sense!
@@MiikaelK Thanks for your response. I never knew that gasoline was an insulator. Very cool!
@@chriscanuck76 gasoline also acts as coolant, it keeps the fuel pump from overheating, this is the main reason it sits inside the fuel tank.
Solid
I just found out my bike isn't getting gas .. what are some steps to make sure that it is? Or is there a video you could recommend? Thanks
Very good. +1 sub.
Thanks i am going to do that with my car
What bout paper fuel Filter is inside tha plastic module...???
i wished my bike had a simple fuel pump and line. the design of the benelli tnt 600 is under designed like way too many fuel line. I actually broke the nipple off :(. Expensive mistake
My fuel pump won't come out, the top part of the pump is too big and gets snagged as you try to pull it out off the tank
Hi,
I have a Yamaha R6, 2004 & I have started to face an issue recently. I would need your help to diagnose the problem, the total kilometers I have run my bike are 12,000KM ONLY since I got it as I wasn’t riding regularly.
For about a month now, I have been riding it regularly. I always do a normal maintenance like Oil change with filter /coolant & battery. yesterday when I left home I felt the bike is heavy and it’s not running smoothly.
Once I stopped at the traffic light and released gas it turned off & when I tried to turn it back on it wasn’t really working without taking extra gas.
All I could do is just give it extra gas and get back home.
If anyone of you can help guide me and figure out the issue then please do let me know from where to start.
Spark plugs ? Airfilter ?or Fuel pump/ filter ?
Please help,
Many thanks!
the best thing to do is to buy a workshop manual. That will have troubleshooting guides for most problems including this one.
one quick way to see if it is a fuel system problem is to remove the tank and airbox then spray some gasoline with a squirt bottle directly into carburetors ( you can buy spray cans which do this from any auto shop ). If engine runs when spraying fuel, problem lies in fuel system, fuel pump, fuel line vacuum line etc.
I never understood how people that weren’t injured, let their bikes sit for so long. Hurts my soul
For example i moved to different city for work and my bikes were staying at hometown till I could rent a garage... took 2 years.
@Seifer Firehart sucks you couldn’t bring them with you. I know it must have been hard not being able to ride
When you get older you may find out how complex life can be. As a 24/7 caregiver for my wife, I can't even get out of the house for an hour to mow the lawn. Yeah, you can't always get what you want. Hurts my soul a lot, too...
@Ralph Waters im late in life in my early 40s lol, I think I understand the complexity of life. I sell cars for a living and work from 4am-6pm Monday through Saturday. I still make time to ride. In your case maybe hire someone to watch her for whatever time you can. If you really want to ride, you’ll find the time. Kinda reminds me when I hear lazy Americans say they are too busy to go to the gym.
@@CollinMac96 Yeah, it's all about one's priorities. I hope to God you never have to face the choices I have in recent years.
noob question, is WD40 count as contact cleaner?
@Justin Dawes ahh that must be why some smoke appear when i cleaned my exhaust with it. Thanks man.
I can’t share with my friends because, I don’t have any
I would not recommend using carb cleaner on anything rubber or plastic.
exactly, brake cleaner works best as it does not destroy rubber parts/o-rings.
True, it's very strong and damages most plastics but fuel pump components could be more resilient to chemicals. Best to makes sure and try it out on safe spots or old parts.
Ethanol is the devil.
Ethanol is not the devil.
Leland Holton Ask any mechanic.
that why you just use stabilizer if your going to let it sit. things with moving parts aren't designed to sit.
I thought alcohol actually helps mop up any water condensate.
@@chocolate_squiggle he wouldn't want more water content in your gasoline and also as ethanol sits and ages it gets to a gummy consistency which clogs up the lines and everything else in the system
This is how to clean the outside of the pump
This is dumb. You go over everything but completely don't mention the high pressure filter. The strainer is only that a strainer. The piece that the pump motor goes into is the high pressure filter. That is where most the sediment and dirt piles up. Clean and blow it out once and you will see how dirty they get.
ONLY in the us , Gasoline or Gas as you Yanks call it . Petrol for us Aussies , , you guys must have shit fuels in the States, you can have fuel sit in a closed Fuel tank here for 5 years plus and it is still fine. Your problem over there is the crap that is added like the catylist to keep Alcohol in suspension.
Is this for real? I never had any problems letting my bike sit for ages in the UK, and I've had a bike sit for almost a year here in NZ and it seemed fine. Now I've let it happen again only it's been 2-3 years now and these American videos have had me terrified to even turn the key and let the pump prime. I've been watching all sorts of videos to learn how to drain the tank, hope it's not too rusted, clean out fuel pumps, filters, hoses going to throttle bodies etc etc. Since we're neighbours and probably have the same fuel standards, maybe I should just crank it over and see what happens. After all if everything is already gummed up I'll just have to fix it, by doing all the cleaning I was going to do anyway, right?
Mix the shitty fuel with decent stuff and run it in your mower.
Everything before 1:30 is irrelevant.
Thank you, but I'm done with Aheed.
, 😍😍😍😍😍
Really not much detail in this vid. This isn't a 3 minute job so what's the use in making a 3 minute video?
Sorry bro you're gonna be lucky if I walk 20 ft to dump that gas on my apartment complexes lawn