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Sony ZV-E10 Low Light Test vs A6400. Same Sensor; VERY Different Cinematic Results?
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- čas přidán 12. 08. 2024
- Today we test the low light capabilities of the Sony ZV-E10 and compare it with the Sony A6400. While these cameras seem to have the same sensor they can produce very different and surprising results across a bunch of tests, cinematic B roll and vlogging shots. Thanks for watching, like subscribe and check out the affiliate links if you enjoyed. Let me know any questions or thoughts in the comments!
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Time Stamps
00:00 Intro
00:29 Overview
00:53 Equipment & Settings
01:33 ISO Noise Performance
03:41 Image Quality - Colour Performance
05:01 Image Quality - Motion Performance
06:42 Image Quality - Detail & Definition
08:19 Low Light Auto Focus Performance
09:52 Thoughts on Vlogging & Stabilisation
10:36 Conclusions
11:55 Outtake Song - Magenta Shift
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Dude, your killing it with these test. So in depth with so many examples showing it all. 🔥
Thanks so much FWTB and great to hear from you as ever 💪 These last few have been labour intensive while the day job has been super busy too so I’m really glad the effort to show and demo things does come across 😁
Hope you’re doing well and take care mate 👏
Great job with the tests!
The metaphors throughout the video are priceless. 😂
Thanks mate for the requested video. perfect comparison and tests
Hey YV, thanks so much for the kind words:) Glad it hit the spot too. If I had more time or eventually make some income on here to dial back the day job, I’d make vids for all the great suggestions people offer. Right now time isn’t my friend so I’m pleased I could do this one:)
Hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 😁👏
Quality content again. Really like the mix of exterior shots, humor and information which made it easily consumable
Great comment again, really like the way you take the time to share positive vibes and go be useful feedback;) Thanks Axel, awesome to hear from you and hope you’re doing well 👍
You are just so funny and make great videos! Good going man! 🙌
Abhimanyu, thanks so much for the kind words - really appreciate the encouragement. The channel is pretty slow right now and is often tough to keep alive along with the day job and such so positive vibes really help:)
Hope you're doing well and have an awesome weekend!
Good work. I enjoyed the video. Thumbs up from Kingsport, Tennessee!
Thanks Big O, thumbs up right back from London:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏👍
Thanks for posting. Very useful video! Liked and subscribed.
Thanks Susan, really glad it was helpful and fantastic to have you on board - welcome 🙏 😁👏
Illuminating us in the low light with your reviews mate!
I see what you did there DP….and I love it 😂 Thanks you sir, much appreciated as always 💪
very well done! now i know i don't need to get the a6400 but rather buy the zve10. thanks alot for the video! Keep it up.
Thanks TS, and always great to see you:) I’d say for video first users the a6400 makes no sense vs the zv-e10; of you care a lot about viewfinder is the only angle I can think of for the a6409, but I’m planning a detailed comparison to get to a properly thought out opinion 😂
Take care and have an awesome day 👏
You put out great content. On par or better than the big names in the space. Keep it up, you'll get to 100K I know it.
Aaron, you are far too kind sir, but massive thank you anyway:) Hope you’re doing well and having a great day 💪
Great examples and I can appreciate the sense of humor!
That’s awesome to hear Michael, really appreciate the nice feedback :)
Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great weekend 👍
Brilliant low light test! Thanks!
Cheers Paul, really appreciate the nice feedback:)
Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great weekend 👍
Hi DB, is zv e10 comes with good stabilisation?
Which camera best for video under 699 $ kindly recommend . I have shortlisted few of them Fujifilm X a7 , Fujifilm XT200 and Sony ZVE10 . If u have any other recommendations . Do let me know.
Great content and i really enjoyable. Can i quest some? With activitive sport photo which ones u recommend, ZV E10 or A6400. Thanks u and keep to gain your channel
Hey H, really appreciate you taking the time to share the nice feedback:)
Both are basically the same photo camera and will have very similar performance in good light - daylight comparison here: czcams.com/video/gWNkvIGQfBU/video.html
If you’re likely to be shooting outdoors in bright sun or using a flash sometimes the A6400 may be better as it has a viewfinder and flash which the zve10 does not.
The zve10 has a lot of advantages if you shoot more video.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏👍
That 👻 trail is due to noise reduction algorithm having hard time to sync with the image. I have same issues on my smartphone, but there i can dial back noise reduction from high quality to fast. And on Sony you should be able to reduce that noise algorithm sync lag as well by putting it on low or off. You cant however disable it completely, since there is NR algorithm in recording codec as well. I would try to use capture card or external recorder for much better results, but don't expect miracles there. And for that color shift issue i would try to white balance camera at that iso you gonna shoot on. It works on my a6300/a5100.
Hey AV, some great tips there. Agree on white balance, the one exception is is if you or your environment is changing and you want to use auto iso, but I’d expect that to be comparatively rare!
I’ve not found any options around noise reduction in video and I know a lot of that is baked in and can’t be changed on much of Sonys consumer line but will investigate further.
Really good stuff-thank you:) Consider subbing if you enjoyed and have an awesome day 👍👏
I really like your speaking style which is quite clear in explaining a product, Sony must give high appreciation to your good work... Big Hug from Borneo Island of Indonesia 🤗👍
Thanks so much Bayu, sending all the positive vibes back to you 💪👍
I think I’m a long way from Sony having any idea I exist - but maybe one day:) Gotta keep up the hard work!
Hope you have an awesome weekend 👏
@@dbvares8745 iam big fan of Sony in Game Consule and LED Tv, i have old Nikon D3000 camera so hard for get cleary video in low light 😫 and i must hard for editing in Adobe PR & AE for made a video like pro 🤭, manny my friend recomended me for buy zv 1, and now i see have zv e10 too 🤔, your channel so helping me to find out about the product.. 👍👍
This video Good Information for Me very usefull. Thank you
Great to hear AB, really pleased it was useful:)
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So good bro, a big hug from Brasil!
You gained a new sub. Nice clear vid!
Here in dxb prices are all over the shop. I’m currently trying to decide between the zv-e10, and the canon m50 mkii. Sony’s is selling for £600 with kit lens, and the m50 mkii for £700 (a bundle with canons 18-50 and 55-200mm lenses included. About 550 just for the basic canon kit lens)
What would you go for? I’m mostly focussed on indoor product photography, and also considering picking up some of the sigma f1.4 series lenses (I guess emount or efm when I finally decide). Bit of live-streaming at the same time. I’m definitely not doing video right now but of course it’s good to hear in mind for the future
From what I can see this is basically a a6400 with no viewfinder. I want to get the most out of the kit lens before buying the sigma primes right now
Hope you can see this. Glad I found the channel
Hey BB, welcome on board and great to hear from you 💪
So with the caveat that I do minimal photography compared to videos I’d say the zv1 has an advantage because the e Mount ecosystem is quite a bit bigger than Ef-m, at least right now.
I’d personally find that versatility and a bit more portability the more compelling option, but the m50 for photos is a pretty strong option from what I know. The viewfinder is an advantage but probably not a major one if you’re mainly doing indoor product work. If you do expand into video the zv-e10 would definitely be my recommendation.
Lastly, I just reviewed the Sony kit lens, so you can see a bit more of what it can do here: czcams.com/video/B54lUgUee2Y/video.html
Hope that helps and you have an awesome day 👏👍
I find in low light my ZVE10 has some slow down? I’m brand new to cameras so it’s probably my fault entirely.. every setting is automatic so perhaps I need to manually adjust something like the iso?
Using the bundled lens and steady shot tuned off.
Any help / suggestions?
Hey WWTW, there’s a few things to watch out for. Firstly the kit lens does not have a very wide aperture so won’t be great in low light, meaning it will force ISO higher and shutter slower. There’s a setting (I think somewhere on the video menu but I can’t recall off hand) called auto slow shutter- thst will let the shutter go as slow as 1/25 in video which will give quite a blurry and slowed down effect which might be the trouble.
More broadly if you’re just getting started this explains how the different Sony video modes work so you aren’t stuck on auto:
czcams.com/video/U5mn2LQeL20/video.html
And this one explains some of the main settings you’d want to have in mind for zve10 settings: czcams.com/video/Th5b4jsLVjw/video.html
Hope that helps! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 💪
It's weird that A6400's performance is mediocre compared to ZV-E10 in low light, considering that the A6400 has the Back-Illuminated sensor. Did sony improve things on ZV-E10 from the software side?
Also, I have a concern: does the colour depth difference for photography still make the A6400 superior to the ZV-E10 in terms of photography?
Thanks for the video!
did you found out the answer?
New subscriber here, i dont have both cameras but i will choose zve10. Hopefully one day i will have one. Great content and very detailed. Congratulations ❤️ from 🇵🇭🇵🇭
Hey WL, really appreciate you taking the time to share such nice feedback and great to have you on board - welcome 🙏
Thanks and have a great day 👍
Hey I’m looking to buy a Sony beginner… mostly for content / studio sessions / street photos for ig / events
Would you recommend Sony a6400 a6500 or zve10
Hey man! what 1080p is the best Quality? a6400 or ZV-E10? 1080p from a6400 is really bad and i dont now how is zv-E10...
you did a good video dude!
i like the direction of the sony zv series. next would be full frame zv fe 10 full frame equivalent for vloggers.
Hi, it does exist and is called Sony A7C :-)!
@@fgf3321 We need a viewfinderless version of the A7C, call it the ZV-E100
@@fgf3321 a7c is $1800 camera and i don't need viewfinder. full frame zv should be at most twice the cost of zve10. so at most $1400. and at best $1000. im sure sony is going to take their older a7 series add digital stabilization, use plastic body and sell it as zv FE, full frame.
This is good stuff! My view: I’d sell my a7c for a zv-fe100, or whatever terrible name they choose 😂- if it has active stabilisation more like the zv1 or a7s3. Right there is an instant buy for me and everything else is a bonus. Actually- product showcase is very handy so I want that too 😂
Which mic u using bro...u sound so calm ! I mean it's amazing
this video is the reason why i bought the zv-e10 with sigma 16mm thanks a lot :)
That’s so awesome - thank you and I’m really happy the content helped you decide your options:)
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Hi! Good video! I am searching a “budget camera” for shooting tattoo process/macro/some action also, I saw you where speaking here about how the tattoo looks on the ZVe10. Max 1000€ what you recommend for my needs? Thank you in advance!
Hey Gabriel, thanks for the nice feedback:)
I’d say the zv1 is a good all in one option with really good close macro focus, review here: czcams.com/video/aNgMcWRFpaY/video.html and comparison to zv-e10 here: czcams.com/video/s1maRhh3_Jw/video.html
The ZV-e10 is also a solid choice and you’d be able to get something like the sigma 16mm or a dedicated macro lens along with the kit lens under 1,000 if you shoo around. Review of the sigma showing close focus here: czcams.com/video/vsvR5NJkmKg/video.html
Hope that helps! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have an awesome day 👍
@@dbvares8745 thank you very much for your advice/reply! Good job with your channel!
Nice video and work thank u
You're very welcome Memo:) Consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
What about color matching these two cameras? I'm colorblind and looking at the ZV-E10 as a second camera.
Hey BGS, I do think there’s a bit of a difference in the colour science between the cameras. With some setting and grading experiments I think you could match to most things pretty well, but I’m not sure how tricky thst is with the colour blindness. What is the main cam you’re looking to match with - the a6400?
If so then I’d say matching is doable but not as simple as newer so y cameras where colours are very similar straight from camera.
Hope that helps!
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It was great my friend, thnx. But a question, how difficult is taking photo with zv-e10 without a viewfinder? Is it tolerable in outdoor daylight? And some lenses don't have focus motor, inside them, can i have auto focus on zv-e10?
Hey Mohsen, appreciate you taking the time to share such nice feedback- thank you 🙏
As for photos: with max screen brightness I’ve generally had no problems but if you’re in really bright direct sun and can’t alter the screen angle for some reason (seems a fairly rare situation to me) then it could make things hard to see.
As for lenses: if they don’t have a focus motor the ZV-E10 has nothing to work with to provide autofocus- a lens must have autofocus for the camera to use its autofocus system. Manual focus lenses will still work great but will always need that manual setup:)
Hope that helps!
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És még az is elég problémás,hogy túl kicsi a váz mérete a zv-e10 nél.Nincs fogás rajta,főleg,ha ráteszel egy hatalmas objektívet mondjuk egy Tamron 17-70mm es zoomot.
I get mine next week according to my shipment info. I was planning on the 16mm Sigma but... I was wondering, does 12mm Sam Yang you used in the past with the ZV-E10 allow the gimmicky bokeh button to work? Is blurring that much wide angle a problem? Or does the portrait button only want to work with the F3.5 kit lens I didn't buy? Thanks in advance.
The blurring button works on any lens with electronic aperture control (most lenses that aren't fully manual have this).
@@greyspaniard …. Thank you sir. I’m new at this as you can tell lol
Hey guys good question and great response - exactly right!
On the samyang specifically I’m publishing the review of that lens in a few hours so keep an eye out if you’re interested:)
Thanks both for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and I’m wishing you both excellent days 👍👏
@@dbvares8745 ...Thanks bro. Been experimenting with the 12mm Yang on the Zed E10 with VND and black mist all day. I'm a noob but figuring it out.
Thanks! Good video! 👍
Thanks Anton, and great to hear from you again! Take care and have an awesome day 👏💪
between zve10 and a7c what you thing is best fot foto video as B cam or everyday light moving? Im going to use it with 24mm & 50mm both GM
Hey Spiro, those are full frame lenses you’re going to use, right? If so I’d have to suggest A7C since full frame lenses on a crop body will be quite limited.
They will work, but only with the tighter cropped field of view and with lower bokeh potential, so since you have such nice lenses I’d prioritise using their full capabilities:)
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@@dbvares8745 ive seen several videos of a7c overheating. its doing more than it can handle, the zve10 is a good camera.
Camera test AND Anthrax reference - perfect!!
Hey u r here like me 🤣🤣🤣🤣 nice meeting u again
Very nice seeing you both haha 😂 And appreciate all the kind words and positive vibes. I confess Anthrax were never my favourite of the ‘big 4’ but I did get the chance to see them live and they were pretty killer 👏
Very nice seeing you both haha 😂 And appreciate all the kind words and positive vibes. I confess Anthrax were never my favourite of the ‘big 4’ but I did get the chance to see them live and they were pretty killer 👏
Where can we hear the full version of Magenta Shift? Sounded pretty epic on the acoustic! :-)
Hey Bog Street, thanks for the kind word:)
If there’s demand I can definitely share some more of my musical stuff in the future. Stay tuned 😂
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Wonderfully done
Thanks so much HW, really appreciate it:)
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the ghosting maybe caused by a setting of auto slow down the shutter in low light. I'm pretty sure I've seen it in the menu.
Hey Jeff, it’s a good thought. I looked into this and the shutter should be operating exactly as you set it in video mode - the auto slow I believe is more for photography. At least that’s the clearest info I’ve seen so far!
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Great comparison great work,i think the e10 is excellent value the think that worries me is stabilization,oh by the way the channel name should be changed to Camera Comedy lol,always enjoy your site
Hey Paulie, great to hear from you again and appreciate the positive vibes as always! If you are ok using catalyst then the zv-e10 can give great stabilisation, but of course that is an extra work flow step. Let me know what you end up deciding!
Take care and have a great day 👍
Can you do this with a6600 vs zve-10. I just bought my a6600 4days before zve-10 was released that's why i got my a6600 brandnew with a good discount. Though its still far from zve-10 pricing given the price discount. So i want to know if it is worth getting the a6600 than waited a little bit for the zve-10?
Hey Caven, I may be able to do a spec comparison but I don’t own an a6600 to do a proper side by side. That said the sensor and image quality will be identical to the a6400 so the visuals here should give a good idea.
The a6600 has superior battery life and ergonomics but inferior stabilisation, video features and older colour science. So your use case will determine which suits you best. Hope that helps a bit. As mainly a video shooter I’d personally take the zve10.
Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great weekend 💪
@@dbvares8745 thanks for the reply. Im using the camera mostly for vlogging and yes i saw that zv e10 has better stabilization due to its gyro data. Which i hope sony will include on a6600 firmware update since rx0ii has it and a6600 came after rx0ii if im not mistaken. And the price of a6600 needs this kind of technology since the ibis is crap compared to ibis of gh5. Don't get me wrong i do like the a6600 i just wanted to get the tech on a premium price i paid for it. 🤣😂 And i like the flip up compare to flip out. So hopefully sony give it to us a6600 users. Just like the color science from fx3 was also given to a7siii. And one more point i noticed a bit better stabilization with ibis and lens with oss than ibis only. I have the kit lens 18-135mm and when i used it vlogging, it has less shaky footage just don't run and jump. 🤣😂 Ill subscribe to your channel because you notice my comment and even replied to it. We need more vloggers who is within reach of their viewers.
Great content and very enjoyable - both from a technical perspective and an entertainment perspective. It's great how you seamlessly slip in the comedic bits.
Thanks for posting and good luck. Undoubtedly your subscriber numbers will increase soon...
Really appreciate the kind words R&K - very kind of you:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have an awesome day 👍
i just purchase the zv-e10 today here in taiwan, the kit lens came with a manual focus which I didn't know in previously
Hey Dyle, congrats on the news purchase-exciting times 😁
Let me know if there’s any deep dive or tutorial content you’re interested in for the zv-e-10 and I’ll see if I can try to cover!
Take care and have an awesome day 👍
what is the price?
I appreciate your effort going in-depth with these comparisons. I'm still considering the ZV-E10 over the A6400 but the lack of viewfinder is quite a bummer.
Thanks Duy, I really appreciate the kind words:)
The viewfinder is definitely one of the drawbacks that can make a big or small difference depending how your shoot. If helpful I followed up this vid with a wider zv-e10/a6400 comparison here:
czcams.com/video/gWNkvIGQfBU/video.html
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Hi there! I'm a musician and usually, I use a camera in low light conditions. What would you adice? Maybe another brand or model?
Hey Daniel, thanks for the good question-also a musician when I have the time 😂
Either of these camera are good in fairly low light with a wide aperture lens (I’d recommend the sigma f1.4 lenses at 16mm, 30mm and56mm.
You’ll likely have a decent jump in cost before getting a big improvement in low light - either upgrading to a full frame camera like the a7c or a73, or some of the high end aps-c option by Fuji (I hear good things but haven’t owned one myself). Overall I think there’s a good chance the zv-e10 with the lenses mentioned earlier will do a good job, especially for the price. I’d say in normal gif conditions it should do ok:)
Hope that helps!
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Great video!
Really appreciate the feedback Daniel:)
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Really appreciate the feedback Daniel:)
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Excellent think taken
Hey Bijon, thanks for the nice feedback, really appreciate it! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 💪
Does anyone know when we can buy for the U.S market? I am sold on the low light test
Hey Alex, glad the test helped:) I think release varies quite a bit by region - I got my from Amazon in the uk in the second week of August and generally Amazon is a good choice for early availability here - not sure if same in the US, but worth a try:)
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The level of humor!!
Are you related to Gerald undone? Awesome level of detail and humour as always
I wish 😂 I’d have better genetics and videos if that were the case;)
I’m a huge fan of Gerald and will never be as strong on the technicals, but I love showing stuff in the real world so hopefully that’s a niche worth developing. Plus the humour of camera conspiracies, but far inferior- that’s the blend of my personality I want to get into the channel 😂
Great to hear from you ZPP, appreciate the kind words and hope you’re doing well 👍
@@dbvares8745 I actually prefer your real life tests than Gerald's, I don't think he ever leaves his house! And yes I do like Kasey's humour but his is more freestyle. I appreciate your well thought about jokes even through they are border lining bas sometimes haha
@@dbvares8745 hey bro just so you can put a face to a yt name ive started to use yt as a way to talk To Facebook friends, at some stage I would love to do some sort of podcast type thing with you, only cause I dig your humour and Tatts and guitar ability. czcams.com/video/BF5Dq8_j0KI/video.html
Thank you
I m still using my sony nex 5 but Now you convince me to buy zv e10 I think it will be nice upgrade
Thanks Assani, it should be a nice and noticeable upgrade from those classic NEX models - very cool - and glad the content was helpful. If it’s a good deal consider the affiliate links if you’d like to support the channel when you choose to buy:)
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Thanks for your Video, i must buy a Sony A6400 + Sigma 30. Thanks again, from Vietnam.
Really appreciate the kind words MNM, it’s definitely a nice combination I’ve enjoyed using:)
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@@dbvares8745 All your channel video so detail, love everything. Now, i use Gopro 10 for my video, next month i will buy this Sony A6400 + Sigma 30. Thanks a lot.
I believe that these 2 cameras are IDENTICAL since they have the same hardware. The difference in color you saw i m suspecting is coming from different internal setups (software) like magenta shifting etc and not because there is any new color technology since we all know that there is no new menus, no new codecs, no new sensor etc. In fact there is no any evolution in Sony's APS-C series so I really doubt that there is any new color science behind these differences. New color science is only available - till now - only in Sony's FF cameras.
Hey V&A, thanks for the thoughtful and insightful comment. You may well be right - the hardware- at least the sensor - is clearly identical. Now where I’m not a tech expert is colour science, so I’d welcome your views. I thought colour science was effective how software interprets what the sensor capture as digital light info and maps that to pixels and hues to make an image, plus when the zv-e10 was announced Sony had updated colours (like with the zv1 compared to rx models) as one of their selling points.
So I think we are describing the same thing in it being about software interpreting things differently-but what are your thoughts? Interested to learn:)
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Great comparison DBV 😎👍
Thanks UC, really appreciate the positive vibes:) Any joy in your wind floof search? There’s a phrase I never thought I’d use 😂
@@dbvares8745 No joy on the floof ..only Sony but they don't ship to uk my search continues lol🙏
The Search For The Floof could easily be a high quality Netflix movie in my opinion;) 😂
@@dbvares8745 😂🤣😂
When your shooting very a high iso or very low light then try avoid significant motion from your shots. Unless you want more ghosting than my past dating experience... 😂😂😂 that was a very funny quip. Nice one.
Hi. I am Persian language and I did not understand your video. Is a6400 better or zve10?
Hey Mahmud, the ZV-E10 generally does slightly better than the A6400 overall for low light - hope that clarifies:)
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i was more interested to see how the Face Tracking and eye auto focus work
Hey Ivan, there's a chapter on autofocus starting around 08:20
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More ghosting than my past dating experiences.. This joke itself deserves appreciation🤣🤣
Amazingly detailed comparison.. Way better than the big deal youtubers out there..
Thanks so much IS, it’s good to turn dumb stuff like that into things people enjoy, so real appreciate the appreciation:) And thank you - I’m trying to make what I would want to see; if I can watch one vid that’s comprehensive and shows examples of everything I much prefer that to watching 5 surface level vids just reading out specs 😂
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@@dbvares8745 already subbed bro😄
Awesome bro and thank you 😊 I don’t get notifications for most so I try to check:) Great to have you on board 👏
Hi, Db. Thank you for making these epic comparisons. Which camera is better for low light in your opinion. I would like to buy the zve10 but on paper, it only has 3200-50000 max iso while the a6400 goes up to 100000 iso if I'm not mistaken. Can you please help me make a choice?
зачем тебе 100000
Would like to see good high quality cinematic test between the a6300 - a6600.
All the footage I’ve seen from the zve10 doesn’t look that good, not even better than an iPhone 13 pro for example.
But I’ve seen lots of profesional stuff filmed with the a6300, a6400 and a6600 which are supposedly have the same sensor
Hey Orlando, some good questions and points. Have you checked out the daylight comparison?
Low light is definitely going to strain any camera so might not be the most useful reference point for overall capability.
I have an iPhone 13 Pro and can confirm the zv-e10 destroys it in pretty much any scenario-it’s not close.
Similarly, while I’ve now sold my a6400 I found the footage with the zv-e10 is basically identical for quality. I wouldn’t have any concern about how the underlying image results and sensor compares between zv-e10 and the A6X series. See what you think: czcams.com/video/gWNkvIGQfBU/video.html
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“Softness problems” lol!
I never said my humour was refined. Or funny. 😂:)
@@dbvares8745 hilarious
is A6400 has EVF?
Hi Anibran, sorry for the delayed reply; the answer is yes. The a6400 has an EVF. A wider feature comparison of the two cameras is here: czcams.com/video/gWNkvIGQfBU/video.html
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muito bom vídeo.
eu tenho as duas câmeras.
qual é melhor ? vou comprar uma das duas?
Great, but I don't understand who is winer ?
Hey CCH, I’d say the zve10 wins given the colour and focus advantages.
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@@dbvares8745 thanks alot, I have soled a6400 and purchased zv-e10, thanks for reply 👍
Keep going...
Thanks Scott, great to hear from you again and, as always, appreciate the kind words and encouragement:) Hope you’re doing well mate!
Zv-e10 👍
I agree 5PST:) And this comment = 👍
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Hi Db, I am from India I need to know which is better for Vlogging i saw your full video but I confused my self 😂 Plzz Suggest me 🙏
Hey Ross, sorry for the delayed reply; I’d recommend the zve10 since it has a much better set of stabilisation options. Wider comparison here: czcams.com/video/gWNkvIGQfBU/video.html
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@@dbvares8745 yeah sure I will sub
I think the big flaw with the zv-e10 is the lack of buttons compared to the a6400
its specifically a vloggers camera so its got the fancy background blur and product showcase. i think its a very well planned camera for a specific group, vloggers. the a6400 is versatile for photos and videos, but not specifically a vloggers camera.
It's not like all the buttons on the A6400 are any useful when you're in front of the camera, and that's what the ZV-E10 is meant to be used for. That said, that's where Sony lags far behind just about every other company that allows for a lot of touchscreen control, especially Canon. It's so stupid that you have to do so much with the directional pad on a Sony, which, by the way, when you're in front of the camera, is really unintuitive.
Agree with pretty much all of this; the lower button number is a shame but I don’t mind it given h way more useful screen design and impressive size and weight reduction.
As for touchscreen- Sony really is pretty poor. The need to buy at the £3,500 end of their range or above to get a proper touchscreen is legit ridiculous in 2021 haha 😂
watching for the puns, no matter which topic :D
Haha thanks Rafal, at least those I can always guarantee 😂 Great to hear from you and hope you have an awesome day 👏
So we’re talking low light noise, right ?
How do we get 4K 60fps uncropped perfect supernatural video in low light then
… better than IPhone Pro Max ?
Hey Globe, so you’d want the largest possible sensor for the best results and something which can do high iso very well since 4k60 will require at 1/60, ideally 1/125 shutter speed.
Which unfortunately leaves us with very limited answer for things with those capabilities: Sony A7S3, FX3, Canon Eos R5 or R6. I’m not aware of many other full frame 4k60 options - Panasonic might have one but I’m not so familiar with their stuff.
Bottom line you’re likely looking at something at least 4-8 times the cost of a zv-e10, which is steep unless you know you really have to have those capabilities.
Hope that helps!
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@@dbvares8745 sorry … and without 29m limits;
And yes beyond sweet spot… if I had viewfinder for rear camera 📷 I’d do that.
Hey Globe, all the thoughts above are without recording limits so they still apply. The thing that really narrows the options is the 4k60. At 4k24 or 4k30 the Sony A73 and A7C have pretty great noise performance up to iso12800 and sometimes beyond. The 60fps in 4k is what will drive a price premium in the current market of options
And again, worth a look at the Panasonic and Fuji lineups as I’m personally less familiar with those, but I doubt you’re getting anything much below $2,000 at the least
What about a6600 vs Zve-10
Hey Colton, the A6600 has the same sensor and same generation of colour science and autofocus as the a6400 so the results and comparison for low light should be virtually the same as what you see from the a6400.
Beyond low light there are some other differences between a6400 and a6600 that play into a comparison with the zv-e10, I’ll try to cover those in the video I’m aiming to release this Friday.
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@@dbvares8745 appreciate the comments, and I'll be sure to check out that video Friday! thanks again and enjoy the week!
You too:) 👏
For the love of God man - your British......... it's pronounced 'Zed' not 'Zee' - you'll be saying 'Nykon' next!! - anyway great channel, subscribed!
I do at least 50% still shooting. Using a viewfinder properly provides an inherently more stable hold than holding the camera at arms length to look at the LCD screen. This allows one to use a slower shutter speed without getting camera motion blur. A slower shutter speed produces an image with less noisiness
It wasn't until I learned how to properly hold a camera that I truly appreciated having a viewfinder. Using a large LCD screen seems fine, until you realize you'll never really hold a camera stable with your arms outstretched so you can see the screen. Now that I'm used to using a viewfinder and holding the camera properly, it's really difficult to go back to anything without a viewfinder.
I have been viewing all the videos comparing these two cameras since I am trying to decide on a new one. Since I do take many photos, I am very much leaning toward the a6400. After watching several different videos with nearly every video having different results it has been confusing. I have not made up my mind, but the in camera tiltable flash, viewfinder, and enviromental sealings make me lean toward the a6400.
Boyd, thanks for sharing this really thoughtful analysis. Totally agree about the benefit of a viewfinder for stills. I personally find it a bit awkward for video but that's subjective preference; with stills and trying to capture single moments I think the EVF is super helpful. There's also the EVF advantage in bright sun which is notable.
As with all things each individual use case is the key thing and sounds like your thinking is very sensible for yours. The main advantages of the ZV-E10 are for video so if those won't benefit your use then I think the a6400 is indeed the better option.
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Essentially, as soon as I can afford it, I should sell my Panasonic mitotic for a Sony Z VE10!
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Big difference in LCD screens.
Is it? I believe both a6400 and zv-e10 has the same LCD hardware and spec. Only the ZV-E10 is articulating. What do you think?
From being hands on I’d say the slightly different shape is the most noticeable difference. I’m aiming for zv-e10 vs a6400 in the next couple of weeks so I’ll see if there are any brightness differences like the ones I saw on the zv1.
Great chat here - wishing you all a lick ass day!
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is terrible noise everywhere.
Hey Alan, what shots did you find with the most problematic noise?
time to sell my a6000 and get zv-e10
Hey FV, I’m doing similar - trading n my A6400. I think if you mainly shoot video it’s a solid upgrade!
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@@dbvares8745 I love to take photo and want more video quality than my Samsung S20. Your reviews very useful for me.
Yeah, but no EVF. Dealbreaker for a photographer.
It's not "zee vee", it's "zed vee".
@awid I'm British, and this dude is also British. It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine when Brits start incorporating Americanisms into their vernuncular. You see it in the car community quite a bit, for example, Chris Harris saying "2 J Zee" instead of "2 J Zed".
Arm, you are absolutely right. It’s a concession I made because a) it’s a lot smoother to say when you end up saying it thousands of times 😂 and
b) the majority of the channel audience is US based according to the current stats so I figured I’d roll with what’s best for the audience - small thing though it is.
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@@dbvares8745 It's all good - I enjoyed the content!
Both dated and dogshit cameras with a dogshit ancient rolling shutter sensor. FFS Sony. TIME to release the APSC version of the S3 - The A64S3!!!
Hey Jeff, good to hear from you, and I do agree - both cameras can do a great job in the right circumstances but they are falling behind the technology curve. A shame as I thought the zv-e10 could have been a sensor refresh and upgrade but instead they went for a parts bin value proposition. Will be v interesting to see releases in the next 12 months as one thing the zv-e10 might do is encourage more options in the crop lens ecosystem which could benefit new models-we shall see…
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My iPhone can do more... Better!
So good bro, a big hug from Brasil!