Government Threatens Retired Engineer With a Crime for Doing Math
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2021
- Wayne Nutt is an engineer. He graduated with a degree in engineering from the University of Iowa in 1967, and he promptly went to work as an engineer. He spent most of his time working in North Carolina, mostly for DuPont, using his expertise to do things like designing piping systems and helping with international technology licensing. Since his retirement in 2013, Wayne has not done any engineering-he hasn’t designed or built things-but he is still an engineer at heart, and so he talks about engineering a lot: When he spots math errors in public documents, he speaks up. When he thinks people are mischaracterizing engineering reports, he speaks out. And when he can answer a question that he thinks is important, he answers it.
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And that is what has gotten him into trouble. Wayne never needed a license to work as an engineer. Because he worked for big manufacturers for his whole career, everything Wayne did (like everything most engineers do) fell under North Carolina’s “industrial exemption” and did not require a license. But according to the North Carolina Board of Examiners for Engineers and Surveyors, talking about the sort of work Wayne did does require a license.
Wayne’s trouble started when he volunteered to testify as an expert witness in a case his son, an attorney, was litigating. The case involved a piping system in a housing development that allegedly caused flooding in nearby areas, and Wayne, who had designed plenty of pipes in his day, volunteered to testify about the volume of fluid that pipe could be expected to carry. Wayne still had a copy of the leading sourcebook on his bookshelf, and the analysis itself seemed pretty easy-at least for Wayne.
But it was also-according to the Board-illegal. After Wayne’s deposition in the case, where he truthfully testified that he was not (and never had been) a licensed engineer, someone complained to the Board that he was practicing engineering without a license, which is a criminal misdemeanor.
It might seem impossible to “practice” engineering by sitting in a conference room answering questions, but, shockingly, the Board seems to think Wayne crossed a line. The Board’s position is that offering any testimony that requires “engineering knowledge” is illegal without a license-even if someone truthfully discloses their credentials, and even if a judge wants to hear the testimony.
But that is wrong. In this country, we rely on people to decide who they want to listen to. We do not rely on government to decide who gets to speak. The Board’s position gets that important principle backwards. That is why Wayne has joined forces with the Institute for Justice to file a major First Amendment lawsuit against the Board, designed to vindicate the basic principle that the First Amendment protects our right to hear useful speech on difficult topics and that the Board cannot silence Wayne simply because his opinions are based on his knowledge of engineering.
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UPDATE: This week a federal judge ruled that state officials violated the First Amendment when they ordered retired engineer Wayne Nutt to stop talking about math in public.
Although I am a registered professional engineer, I fully approve of Wayne Nutt providing
He exposed an engineering flaw done by a city-public engineer and the city was obviously embarrassed by their own stupidity. They want to make sure that nobody has the power to check their work again and want to punish anyone who does. This is typical, sleazy government tactics.
He's such a hardcore engineer, his shirt is graph paper.
As a licensed professional engineer I support Wayne's case.
When exposing a crime is treated as a crime you know who the criminals are.
"Nothing is more dangerous than being right when the government is wrong."
Name the state officials who decided to sue this guy,so we can shame them publicly.
I am a licensed professional engineer, and Wayne's efforts are wholly within the spirit of the model professional engineer's code of conduct. If he's not getting paid, not submitting the work for execution by others, or misrepresenting his status, he's entirely in the right here.
I can’t believe this guy is 77. He doesn’t look a day older than 60.
“When you commit a crime, who goes to jail? You.”
If he’s commenting on a public matter he’s not practicing engineering. He wasn’t charging any fees to any government or private party that contracted with him for his knowledge. He’s making a difference to help his community. Wonderful!
So I suppose the government thinks that a retired doctor should not be allowed to give his input on a discussion about health? I'll be damned if the government is going to tell me whose opinion I can and cannot listen to.
Never forget, there are two things Government employees hate, competition and accountability.
Reminds me of the college student who did the math on a skyscraper in new york and realized the building would fail in 70 mph wind not the 100 mlh wind it was supposed to be built to. She brought it up in school. The difference is the architect who built the building did not disregard the truth. They went in after hours and fixed the mistake. Not one person in the building knew it until years later
Thank you IJ for your fierce defense of our constitutional rights as citizens.❤️🙏💪🇺🇸
Next up in North Carolina: “Engineering board files suit against family for building Jenga tower without architecture license.”
An arrogant bureaucrat didn't like that a citizen was smarter than they were in their field of expertise, got his ego hit, and decided to go on a power trip.
Amen! I'm an unlicensed electrician. I go around fixing what larger companies with licensed electricians do incorrectly. See it all the time!
In a world run by corrupt criminals speaking the truth is a crime...