Is the Winnie POINTLESS in 1.16? (Solo Hunt: Showdown Highlights)
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2024
- winnie got pew and like sure the marathon go pew too but the winnie did it first and thats pretty cool
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I'm trying to convince myself to play with the Winfield again. I used to love them-all of them: compact ammo variants with FMJ or HV, the Centennial with all its ammo types (they're all great), the Slate with slugs and buckshot, and the Terminus with Flechette or Dragonbreath. Winfields covered me on all fronts. My nickname is Captain Winfield, lol (I know lots of folks on the East server hate me for some reason; sorry, boys, for letting you down). But lately, I discovered the Marathon. Then the Marathon Swift with FMJ. Then the Katana. It's so good. I can't really explain why. Hipfire works better for me than levering. The sights are better. The appearance and animations are more satisfying. I don't know what to do. Should I rename myself Captain Marathon now? Am I even a captain after that?
hey GG, you just killed my team a couple matches ago, i was slate boi, i saw you sneaking around, and let you go because i just kinda felt bad shooting you in the head when you were fighting a team, i sure paid the price though. hope to see you in the bayou again sometime
I will not stand for any winny slander, it’s my baby, especially the talon
i love me a good winnie talon w poison levering so my primary alone can kill every boss and any hunter
Never liked the winnie for the damage falloff and a disappointing sound. Marathon, on the other hand, packs a punch, especially swift + fmj and sounds more poweful
great video as always :] I do agree with pretty much all your points, the marathon is better if youre using iron eye or just plain hipfiring and dont want any custom ammos, where the winnie has custom ammos, variants, and levering and doesn't preform as bad without iron eye. and as a fellow hunt meta protester its very valid that you dont like using fmj or high velo, we need more people like you in the bayou!
I never understand people protesting metas. Like if you want to use something different, go for it, but why do you care what everyone else is using.
@@subnighterhawk1535 multiple reasons, 1. it leads to less variety in your games, fighting the same guns over and over is boring, especially in the extreme.
2. if everyone is playing certain unfun loadouts, like a nitro or sniping for example, this makes your games much less fun, and depending on your loadout, like if you play nagant P or a shotgun, theres no way youre beating a good sniper.
these are the 2 main big things, other players absolutely have an effect on how fun your games are.
@animetacoman8577 If you're engaging a sniper at long range with any load out that isn't a sniper, then that is on you for giving him the advantage. If you're using a shotgun or pretty much any 400 velocity or less weapon, you can either use cover to close the distance or back off to reset the fight and get an advantageous fight. As for fighting the same load out all the time, you can not control what other people want to use. Stop trying. All guns are viable, but people will always use what they think is the best option. Games always develop a meta(you'll just have to accept that), but the true balance is when all guns are viable. Every gun can be utilized currently, so yeah, I don't get it.
@@subnighterhawk1535 this is just inherrently false, you do not always get to control the fight, there are plenty of open fields, where there is no cover to push them, especially if they are waiting in between you and extract and you have the bounty. you are FORCED to push them, through the open, or just die to timer. and i never said i could control the loadouts other people do, or that there wouldnt be a meta, but saying that seeing the same loadouts constantly doesnt make the game less fun or interesting, i just fully disagree with, just because all guns are viable, does not mean there arent heavy outliars right now, which leads to not fun situations. and if youre entire point is "dont complain about unfun things" then we will never see eye to eye. as you are even now, complaining not even about something ingame, but an outside opinion, which makes even less sense to me.
I think the Marathon won't go past Winfield when it comes to all the weapon variants we have and the value with traits (even if Winfield levering is harder than marathon hip-fire)
And now that bosses have become noticeable more tough to kill with melee tools i've been going with the Winfield Talon and Bayonet variants a lot more, which helps a lot to rushing bosses
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Marathon is great if you want a fast firing ADS rifle. However if you have both levering and iron eye than the winfield all the way. Especially cause there is a flavor of Winnie for every occasion.
I think…. For me personally, the Winnie only has an odd variant I will very rarely run with any more…. & that’s probably the Musket variant with bayonet. I actually prefer the Marathons sights and sight picture.
Right now the Marathon is simply better in most ways except winnie has levering and HV Ammo, also winnie has subjectively better Iron Sights. So winnie can be better for pushing close or getting easier head taps from range with HV ammo, that is until they potentially add HV to marathon lol, then marathon will be better stats wise in every way except levering up close.
Marathons aiming fire rate is far slower than the Winnie without iron eye, but with iron eye the Winnie still shoots faster by a bit
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I know its an old video an you probably sont see this comment but i realy wanna hear your take on the compact meta ! especisly with the New announcments long ammo gonna take a hit so compact and medium ammo will have more of the spotlight :)
@@matthieucamplan6148 jokes on you, I see every comment! To answer your question though, I don’t think Long ammo is going to fall out of the meta, as it just has too many upsides that compact and medium don’t have (125+ damage, high pen and velocity without need for custom ammo). Since we haven’t yet seen any bullet drop for anything aside from very long range long ammo, it’s hard to say what the meta is gonna look like after the update, but I bet we’ll be seeing a lot more high velocity and spitzer ammo (assuming they don’t get changed) because players will want an easy way to reduce bullet drop instead of learning the trajectory. Hope this answered your question!
If the Winnie dies then hurry my bones beside it.
I think levering winnie with fmj is still amazing. However, marathon is a better new player gun
Marathon is still worse than the Winfield with perks. The 3 extra damage doesn't amount to much. And the velocity is only like 30 more or something. People over exaggerate how much better it is I feel.
The hate for HV I understand, but FMJ is not a straight upgrade. If anything, it is the most balanced special ammo type because you make a concession by paying for penetration with your velocity. FMJ is significantly slower than the other ammo types. HV is a straight upgrade, incendiary only loses pen, poison only loses pen. They are all easier to land than FMJ.
I just have to say skill issue when it comes to levering, I love ya Ari but I think you need to run more levering to learn the spray pattern it really makes it easier to land shots consistently
when more content ((
I wish I could tell what weapon you are talking about when someone says "Winnie".
Winnie ded hunt ded just like with beetle wraghwragh wragh blaaah… (this is a joke, by the way.)
Swift, but not levering.... interesting
Also, a big advantage to taking default compact ammo is its insane pickup, and how much easier it is to final normal ammo crate.
The Winny will always be a Noob's and a Prestiger's best friend.
It won't one-shot at close range, and long range is tenuous. But it truly is the king of all-rounder medium-range, and the number of variants it has makes it one of the best flex-weapons for any loadout!
I never understand people protesting metas. Like if you want to use something different, go for it, but why do you care what everyone else is using.
Winchester dont need iron eye to be functional, so its better than marathon already imo.
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