Fiat 500 Twin Air Oil + Filter Service (UK Model)
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Fiat 500 Twin Air
NOTE - There has been a bit of debate in the comments on which oil to use for these engines. I had a look on auto data and can advise the following -
Euro 5 models use 5W/40 ACEA C3 (Fiat 9.55535-S2)
Euro 6 models use 0W/30 ACEA C2 (fiat 9.55535-GS1)
There are a few jobs to do on the little 500 so expect more videos on this soon
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Andy
AMS Vauxhall
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Thanks so much for this series of videos for the Twin Air. I was able to change the Engine Oil, fit a new Oil Filter, Air Filter and Spark Plugs myself. Really appreciate you supplying the Torque settings too. Last week I fitted a new stop start battery tested all the fuses and relays ( I thought my starter motor / solenoid had packed up at first but it was the old battery at fault). New battery in, clutch down, turn the key and she fired right up where before It was a quiet single click with clutch down or not and no crank either way. A few weeks ago I had a new Oil Cooler unit fitted as coolant was leaking. The metal body had cracked! All good for the winter ahead now I reckon. Tyres and Brakes are looking good. The MOT may throw something up like a shock spring etc. But I feel your videos have already saved me plenty of dough on more garage fees and I was able to do all this at home this morning and drive this afternoon. Hell of difference in the driving experience now too. Night and Day. Feels good as new. with over 82000 on the clock. Cheers!
Ah that’s brilliant to hear buddy! I’m glad the videos helped. I really appreciate the comment too☺️ always nice to know the videos help someone.
I still have this car and it’s going strong so will likely more videos in the future
Andy👨🏼🔧
As the Twinair uses the engine oil as part of the hydraulic tappet control for the inlet valves the oil viscosity has an effect on the operation of the inlet valves and the fuel mixture. In order to allow for the change in oil viscosity after an oil change the ECU controlling the tappets has to adapt to the new viscosity. There is a service function called "Oil Change Reset" that is initiated using equipment plugged into the OBD2 port. I believe this resets the values in the ECU allowing the unit to adapt to the viscosity of the new oil (it may even trigger a learn mode). I have done half a dozen oil changes without doing this and had no trouble however I believe others have had problems with MOT emissions soon after an oil change. I recently carried out this procedure and found that while the option existed on my OBD2 scanner it would not actually wok. I got out the laptop and used multiscan to successfully complete this procedure. I also believe the Twinair engines are sensitive to the type of oil due to the hydraulic tappet control but I have used the correct viscosity Castrol oil with no problem (55000 Miles, 2011 reg). If you cannot do the oil change reset you might wait until after an MOT before changing the oil. That way the system will have time to adjust even though a reset hasn't been carried out. Worth considering.
Great video. This is such a jewel of an engine. So under-rated. Surprised other manufacturers like Suzuki and Kia don't buy it from Fiat to use in their cars.
Vince de Simone agreed! It’s a brilliant little engine, especially for only being a 2 cylinder 👌🏻
@@AMSVauxhall it's also ripe for hybrid setup; surprised it's taken Fiat so long.
I'm at 70k with my Panda now....hasn't skipped a beat engine wise!
When I replace I'm hoping to get a MiTo Twinair.
What kind of oil can you advice? 5W40 ? What’s the Norme pls? Thank you 😉 uk condition should be +/- same for BELGIUM 😂. So you advice 0W30 ok . C3 or long life ? I know about BMW but not for Fiat😉
Read the video description for a better understanding of the oil buddy. Hopefully it helps you out 😁
Andy👨🏼🔧
Thank you sir, I needed to find the torq setting, and also thank you for not playing horrible music, and sticking your mug in the camera 😜
Thanks for the comment buddy. Much appreciated! 😊 I agree about the music and the usual “yapping” forever before getting to the actual content. Glad someone agrees with me 👌🏻
Andy👨🏼🔧
I think the Euro 5 spec cars have the usual Fiat 5W40 oil, 0W30 appears to have come in with Euro 6 spec cars. I think this is to improve MPG but some say it helps stopping the multi-air unit from clogging up. Personally I would replace the oil every 8,000 miles on these as the tiny turbo engine has to work hard. Also, cleaning the metal multi-air filter is essential.
Yes I have the oil specs in the video description for those who are confused and as with everything, when you service / maintain anything in life depends on how it’s used / abused etc
Andy👨🏼🔧
Thank You - That's my job for next weekend
amazing stuff
I would be more concerned about the Timing cover Leaking oil ! 🧐
Nothing to be concerned about. It is a common fault / design flaw which is remedied by replacing the timing chain cover gasket but as that is a lot of work it’s not worth doing for all it leaks. It hasn’t got any worse in the 6 years of ownership.
In my book the 62 kW TwinAir engine should have syntetic SAE 5W-40 with minimum ACEA C3 or Fiat 9.55535-S2 spec
Read video description
I see it now. Mine is a Euro 5 so 5W-40 Thanks.
Can you please tell me what type of Cambio automatic/dualogic lubrificant use the 500 Twinair 86ps 2012?thnx
Thanks for sharing 👍
well i don't see the fiat twin air specification on the bottle of the oil, is very important, not just the graduation 0w30 also the specific that the brand made for his motors
Thanks for the vid AMS
Thank you for the video, really helps a lot 👍👍
Thanks for the comment buddy, much appreciated 😊 glad it helps you out
Andy👨🏼🔧
bonjour , merci pour vos vidéo super utile sur les fiat 500 twin air
j'aurais une question, ou est le filtre a carburant sur fiat 500 twin air 0.9 de 2017 ? merci
Hi, The fuel filter is a lifetime filter so no need to replace. It is actually part of the fuel pump inside the fuel tank. It’s basically a gauze attached to the bottom of the pump / sender unit.
Andy👨🏼🔧
EXCELLENT video sir. EXCELLENT.
10/10.
PERFECT. FAULTLESS.
This was a GREAT HELP to me.
VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU.
Do you have anything on, Changing the coolant, on the Fiat 500 .9Lt Twin Air??
Thanks again, and greetings from 'OZ'. (Australia)
Thanks Terry, appreciate the comment ☺️
Nothing on changing the coolant yet as it is still plenty strong enough but when the time comes I will do a video. 😁
Andy👨🏼🔧
@@AMSVauxhall
Thank You sir.
Hav a gd 1.
Bonjour j’ai actuellement une Fiat 509 0.9 105cv twinair de 2017 je voudrais savoir si ce moteur est fiable j’ai pas vue beaucoup de retour sur ce moteur 😢mais mise à par sa rien a dire c’est spécial au début mais le bruit magnifique 🤩
Hello! We still have this Fiat 500 and it is due a service again but it is now on 87,000 miles and still as good as it was when new.
I will say it has been meticulously looked after but other than that we can’t fault it.
Andy👨🏼🔧
Merci beaucoup pour votre commentaire 😊 pour vous vous recommandez un entretien tout les combien de temps pour le bon fonctionnement du moteur ? Merciii
First time I've ever seen a dip stick as part of an oil filler cap. Weird.
You use Comma xflow oil a lot, do you rate the stuff?
Brilliant video as ever. Thanks Andy. :-)
It's actually quite common these days. I have the same setup on my renault megane 3 diesel. As long as it is there its fine. On Audi A6 (C8) for instance there is no dipstick at all, you have to rely entirely on its sensors
Thanks. How to know if my car is EURO5 or EURO6? 😃
Should the Twin Air filter be cleaned once in a while?
If you are in the UK you can find out by going to an emission’s government website. If outside of UK then it is possibly in you paperwork or ask a garage to look up your registration/ engine on the likes of Autodata.
If you know the service history of the car and it is well / regularly maintained then the Twin Air oil filter should be fine. I actually checked the one on this car just before it was sold on and it was clean as a whistle and we owned this car for 6 years
Andy👨🏼🔧
Hi which is the weak point of this engine, before buy it as second hand?
Does it burning oil, fail head gasket, timing chain, turbo?
I’ve never heard anything bad about them. A good service history would be a start. I’ve looked after this Fiat since 20,000miles (now on 78,000) and it has been a brilliant engine.
The timing chain cover gasket weep oil (there was a TSB about it few years back) this one weeps oil too but it is very minimal. Other than that I can’t fault it
Andy👨🏼🔧
hello, I have a 2011 Fiat twinair, manual recommends 5w40, I know that as time evolves, manufacturers change the oils, can I use 0w30 oil? when I type, my plate in the parts stores shows the 5w40 oil option and the 0w30 option
Go with what your manual recommends. It depends on which country you are in and which Euro engine you have (see video description)
Andy👨🏼🔧
After how many kilometers you suggest changing our oil ?. Mine right now is at 50.400 kilometers should i change it ?.
I change mine every 6,000 miles but if you have an owners manual it will have the recommended interval for your engine. I believe they recommend every 20,000mile (long life oil + filter) it also depends on how it’s used etc.
Andy👨🏼🔧
20K miles!! 😱@@AMSVauxhall
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A feiend of mine did the oil change and out the filter 1st in the car and then out the Camp on instead of putting Filter in the cap. Is That a problem? Sorry for my Bad english.
It doesn’t matter that much as long as the location pin on the filter goes into the hole in the housing.
@@AMSVauxhall That was done. Think you for the fast answer!
Ottimo video.
Io ho Fiat 500L 0.9 metano
Mi sapresti dire le coppie di serraggio (Nm) del tappo olio?
Non riesco a trovare da nessuna parte queste informazioni
Grazie
Nei sottotitoli del video ha scritto 25nm
Just watched your video wife just bought twin air no you used 0w 30 seen some people saying 5w 30 no got to be fully synthetic oil bit confused
It depends where in the world you are buddy. 0W/30 in UK. It is actually written in the owners manual too.
Andy👨🏼🔧
@@AMSVauxhall England that's great many thanks for your reply wife only had car 3 days had survice before bought it didn't leave any oil to top up if needs any before next service do they use much oil between services
@@davecooke914 I have never noticed any oil consumption between services. I do an oil service every 6,000 miles though. Great little motors. Spark plugs are expensive (even though there are only 2!)
Andy👨🏼🔧
The manual of my 2013 says 5w40. But since the dealership used 5w30 instead of 5w40 for the “delivery service”. I bought it at 66.000km and I’m using 0w30. If 5w30 can be used, 0w30 can be used as well in the euro 5 version.
Please tell me that it's on axle stands and I just can't see them
I have a Alfa Mito twinair and I just order engine oil from Selenia 5w40 C3. That was the advice in de car manual. Why do you put 0w30 in the car?
0W/30 is the only oil for twin air engines here in the UK. The 1.2 can use a few different grades of oil depending on country / climate. If it recommends 5W/40 for the twin air engine in your manual then it will be correct.
Andy👨🏼🔧
@@AMSVauxhall i have the 85hp euro 5 engine after 2013 its 105hp and euro 6. I thinks thats the difference between type of oil. The only thing i dont want is to buy a new twinair module for about 800€...
@@Jokesxxl this is also the 85hp 5 speed spec. Good little motors 👌🏻
Would you need to do an oil reset on the ECU after this, or is that only for cars with a DPF fitted? Thanks!
No not on the petrol engine
Hello i have fiat 500 twinair 85 BHP 2012 i live in uk and my question should i use 0w30 oil?
OW / 30 is the recommended oil for the twin air engine. It also advises this in the owners manual 😁
Andy👨🏼🔧
@@AMSVauxhall super thanks Andy ;) i also have a question about the lifetime od these engines?
@@bfx9054 I’m not sure on that one but mine is on 55,000miles so still like new. Like anything in life though, if you look after it well then it will look after you. 😁
Andy👨🏼🔧
@@AMSVauxhall my fiat is grom 2012 and have 57000 miles. I have a bit od a problem becouse when I start the engine ,it does nor worki smoothly for a while but after while it stabilizes or is IT normal or maybe domek kind od faults?
@@bfx9054 normal for twin air engines. Mine does the same thing. Feels like a misfire but it is normal.
Andy👨🏼🔧