Former Marlins Exec David Samson: Why Cubs Really Lost the Steve Bartman Game | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Rich Eisen Show guest host David Samson, former President of the Marlins, explains why the Cubs really lost the infamous Steve Bartman playoff game.
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“It’s not enormous like the NFL ones have become…” cuts to enormous World Series ring. 😂
Facts wtf is buddy talking about😂 that’s an insane ring for 2003
To be fair, Samson is a very small man, like 5’4” I’m sure it doesn’t look as big on Miguel Cabrera for example
man, david samson has an extremely abrasive conversational style. i give chris credit for remaining professional and never taking any of the barbs.
He's probably familiar with his style. He comes on the Dan Lebatard Show with a similar candace.
Right..... got to hit him wit the " ooooook man relax"
Agreed. He's informative and articulate but comes across somewhat arrogant.
I'm not familiar with him and didn't know until seeing this clip that he was with the Marlins front office and is related to scumbag Loria.
Makes me sick that the garbage franchise with no fan base bought two WS titles.
thats whats funny...
@@kentstallard6512
He's pretty arrogant, but he's a good conversation I gotta admit. His podcast Nothing Personal is one of my favorites.
I am one of 47 Marlins fans and that team was a core childhood memory for me!
😂
I love realistic fans....NO ONE CARES even after two WS titles and a new stadium. I don't think Floridians care about baseball because it's a summer sport. The Grapefruit League is popular with tourists. Same with the Rays. Best "small market" team and no fan base.
Any chance you know the backstory about the guy who appears frequently sitting behind home plate with the old orange Marlins gear?
@@kentstallard6512 the general Heat and Dolphins fan bases may not care too much about baseball but Florida is home to millions of Hispanics who love baseball. If the team builds a sustainable entertaining product the fans will come imo.
The fan is called “Marlins Man.” You can google him to find his background better explained than I can
I was a kid in South Florida when the Florida Marlins came to town. Thanks to Pudge, Cabrera, Conine, D-Train, and Charlie Hough and more for all the great memories.
I'm also one of the 47 Marlins fans, and the 03 World Series to me, still feels like when baseball was at its best. Awesome memory.
Die hard Cubs fan here. I never thought I’d like David, but I’ve come to love him. And this cemented it.
Been saying for 21 years, Dusty cost us that series. Jack McKeon had his best pitchers ready to enter any game at any time. Clement, Zambrano, Wood sat in that bullpen in game 6. He played for game 7 when if we won that night, there is no game 7.
Refreshing to hear this take!
Not a Cubs fan, but that series and the subsequent WS victory by the Marlins sickened me.
An iconic franchise with a loyal fan base loses to a swampland team with NO fan base, owned by scumbag Loria.
I'm a Dbacks fan but I was happy to see the Cubs finally break through. Seeing a game at Wrigley is on my bucket list. Driven past it.
I blame Moises Alou's temper tantrum on a fly ball he never would've caught in the first place lol.
My father, worked as a beat reporter/ news director for the old AM 1000 radio station in Chicago, as well as AM 780, WBBM. His radio name is Mike Scott, he covered Chicago sports(mostly Bulls & Cubs) in the mid-late ‘90’s. By the 2000’s, he had switched to covering local politics, but he was still relatively well known in Chicago. My family’s last name is Baartman, obviously my name has one more a than Steve’s last name. However, this didn’t stop angry Cubs fans from calling my mother on our HOME PHONE NUMBER, because everyone thought my dad was somehow related to Steve & was hiding somewhere! Chicago sports are the real deal.
Back in 2012 I talked to an usher at Wrigley who was family friends with Steve Bartman. He told me Bartman's company sent him to their branch in Texas to get him out of town for a while. Very sad.
I'm sure you've seen the 30-for-30 on Bartman.
Crazy. Yes, Cubs fans are passionate. Which is why it sickened me when that garbage franchise beat an iconic team with a loyal fan base and went on to win the WS. Loria is a scumbag and no one in Miami cares, even with the new stadium.
I'm a Dbacks fan but I was happy for Cubs fans in 16.
Thank god Bartman didn’t let stupid people get to him…he’s still alive and living the good life….
Thank you for bringing up the fact that the White Sox had an 80+ year World Series drought winner the year after the Red Sox did it. No one talks about it and it's so frustrating as a Sox fan
Wait a minute... you mean Chicago has TWO teams??
This guy loves himself so much I'm almost jealous
Baker also did not come out of the dugout to call a timeout to calm down Prior and co. Instead, he chewed on a toothpick.
The cubs did not lose because of bartman, they lost because of a missed ground ball for an error that could have been turned into a double play easily. Bartman is just a scapegoat for cubs fans and I am a cubs fan but those fans back then were moronic. The cubs made so many mistakes in that game. After the bartman situation the game was literally in the exact same spot it was before the incident.
David Samson comes off as a huge jerk
I'm 100% certain he doesn't care. It's his brand.
He does and doesn't. Nothing personal! That's the name of his podcast. I instantly thought and knew he was a jerk when I first heard him on the le batard show
Yeah he's a rich white guy
@@Ludzigwhy does his race matter....
@@Ludzigracist
LeBatard group is going to roast him…wearing that damn ring
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Stugotz is the next guest host
They should let him smoke heaters on set. Pop a few gummies. Now that's must see TV
@@whoo17hahaha I support this
Gaha that ring is enormous! Maybe not NFL enormous, but huge
This dude is still happy about helping the Expos move!
Dusty pulling the starter in 02 helped the Angels beat SF too.
Dusty stinks but I was happy for him when he got a ring for Houston
@@victorle7693I think he's a great lockerroom presence and mentor.
In-game management, not so good.
Dusty Baker is one of the most important and revered figures in the history of baseball. This guy is an oil slick.
What a jerk.
I dressed as Bartman for Halloween that year. Ran into a guy in Ft Lauderdale bar also wearing it. We hugged. Years later, one of my consulting buddies texted me, “Guess who just showed up at my meeting?”
Guy had his entire life destroyed over a foul ball. But cool story bro
Tony Russo created the era of over using the bullpen which in some way led to the over reliance on analytics. I will also go with the "old school" manager who trusts his instincts and his pitcher. I think it was Jim Palmer who said that it used to be the bullpen was full of guys who weren't good enough to be starters and I hate the "specialist" and the guy groomed to pitch one inning.
As a lifelong Cubs fan, I've always blamed Moises Alou throwing a temper tantrum in the outfield on a ball that he most likely would not have caught in the first place. That really sucked the air out of the whole team, in combination with the pitcher's struggle. And the rest is history.
I agree it was very unprofessional. But what lost them the game was the missed ground ball that easily could have been turned for two directly after the Bartman incident.
@@natevart4156 Objectively you are right, but perhaps Moises Alou's temper tantrum put everyone on edge, which led to the missed ground ball. That's my theory, but yes if the ground ball is converted, game over.
David Samson needs to be on more often.
Mark Prior, Kerry Wood
I don't get the hate thrown at Samson. I like the dude.
Go cubs. dusty was the reason as much as it hurts to agree with the marlins president at the time.
Dusty Baker is Doc Rivers
I was there for Game 6 and 7 Celebrated at Marlins Hotel. Watching ESPN cover the Win on bar TV. I Still Don't Like David
So whos to say Caitlyn doesnt get drafted by the trail bazers..no rule against it
Bruce
I laughed so hard watching that game
Moises Alou's temper tantrum didn't help
Bring back steve bartman 😂😂😂
Dusty Baker screwing his team in big moments, what else is new?
Might’ve been an over correction from the year before when he was in San Francisco.
@@salvatoresultana4058 Thing is, the '02 World Series fell apart because the bullpen was fried. I love Dusty and I'm very happy that he got his ring with the Astros in '22 - but he did have a tendency to burn up his pitchers.
@camicawber The Giants bullpen being fried wasn't really Dusty's fault, his starters were getting rocked in pretty much every game of that series.
He's completely wrong. How do you blame the pitcher for an error? Never was a Dusty fan, but this is a biased analysis.
David Samson fan
This has already been debunked. Mark Prior himself said he was not overworked and not exhausted. If Alex Hernandez and Bartman hadn't happened the Cubs would have been in the World Series. The Cubs were the better team that year.
A world series title 20 years ago is all the marlins have. They have no fan's and no history. The owner(s) don't seem to care if they win or lose. This guy sure left a legacy behind just not the one he thinks. Marlins suck
Never cared for Samson back then and now....just really smug...🤨
This guy is awesome, best guest host I've seen yet.
I don't like, hate, or even follow the Marlins, I kinda sort of like Miami sometimes... but I can't control how much I loathe David Samson. As a baseball statistician, he's alright... Everything else out of his mouth just proves what an elitist turd he is.
We get it David, you want people to know you're a big shot, calm down. Chris isn't trying to make you feel small, its called :: waves hands across the sky :: *conversation*!
That play absolutely cost the Cubs that game. Alou had his eyes and glove locked on that ball. He would have caught it. He at least would have been able to make a play on it, but we'll never know. Bartman is a sympathetic figure, but he should have had more awareness about what was going on. Everyone reaching their hands for that ball should have been paying attention.
That was for the second out of the 8th. Total L take.
Samson talks to people like he’s never been punched in the face before…
Was there. That did cost us the game. Won’t listen to this; 20+ years later it still hurts that much….
Don't care for his act
This just brought back all my trauma. Need to see my therapist 😂
DAVIIIDDDD
Who's the clown laughing about nothing
DAVID SAMSON (clap clap clap clap clap)
😂
Where is Rich Eisen. This dude is annoying....
The Marlins franchise sickens me. Miami should've never been awarded a franchise. Swamp dwellers don't care about baseball. It's a summer sport and summer in Florida is hell. That MLB allowed them to start in a football stadium with no roof was crazy.
Two WS titles, a new roofed stadium...and NO ONE CARES. Same with the Rays, the best small market franchise. No fan base.
Loria is a scumbag. Garbage franchise. (I'm not a Cubs fans either...I'm a Dbacks fan)
Hopefully the league will relocate both the Rays and Marlins in the near future. In a few decades it will necessary anyway as the swamp is submerged.
MLB expanding not once but twice into the state of Florida has never made sense to me. Florida already gets its slice MLB with the spring training sites. At least the front office with Tampa Bay tries to make it work by putting winning teams on the field but even that is not enough to generate crowds. The Marlins have never raised their self-perception beyond an expansion franchise. They caught lightning in a bottle during the postseason in 1997 and 2003, qualifying as a wild card team each time. Really quirky fact about the Marlins: they have NEVER finished in first place in their division, yet they have two World Series championships.
@@Famijoly Didn't know that last fact.
Spot-on.
Honestly, I’m not really a fan of this guest host. He needs to lighten up a bit. It’s annoying listening to him.