John MacArthur FINALLY COMMENTS about the Alistair Begg Controversy During Recent Q and A!
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- John MacArthur has finally weighed in on the Alistair Begg Controversy with his first public statements. He was asked about it during a Question and Answer session at Grace Community Church. MacArthur was gracious in what he said regarding Alistair Begg and his ministry but made his position known boldly and clearly. John MacArthur differs strongly with Alistair Begg regarding this issue. MacArthur made many statements about the Alistair Begg situation, attendance of weddings in question and what he doesn't understand in the whole Alistair Begg debacle. I provide commentary and teaching on the topic as well and point to other videos that I have made about this issue. They can be found below and in the pinned comment. There is a playlist regarding the Alistair Begg / John MacArthur Controversy on CZcams and you can find descriptions of each video on the website. You won't want to miss a moment of this video of John MacArthur addressing the wedding issue with Alistair Begg.
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RESPONSE VIDEO to Alistair Begg's sermon on 1/28/24 that demonstrates that he refuses to repent and makes the obvious implication that anyone that expresses concern about his position (which is almost all of conservative Christianity) is a Pharisee. I play highlight clips and provide a cold reaction to the disturbing things that were preached. I also make the case that his beliefs and statements have opened the floodgates wide open for the embracing of his same beliefs throughout the Church.
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Hi sir, can you share the entire Q&A? I looked it up but I can't find it anymore it was removed. Please share if you can?
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John MacArthur is Total Right
@@EdwinSmith-hd2nt Amen!
These are the times when we are reminded that even our most valued & respected pastors & teachers are mere men & need our prayers.
These are times of apostasy and the great falling away from the gospel.
This can take place gradually or quickly.
Thank you
Do you REALLY believe Begg has or is falling away?
We need to pray for ALL Christians.
@@Lisamurdo1036 I hope he isn't. We need to keep on praying.
@daisyogoya6685 what EXACTLY are we praying for? So many posts of people say they are praying, but without being specific, it would be good to know reason for/why? Is it because he is wrong or is it because he is getting bombarded by fellow Christians??
I don't care how great a preacher you are, but don't ever ever compromise the word of God.
Did you actually listen to what Begg said. Shame on these so called Christians for blowing everything out of proportion! This is cancel culture at his finest and has nothing to do with the word of God.
And I think if you happen to compromise the word of God because none of us are sinless that's just Our Redeemer Jesus! just come back and just like you publicly compromised then you should publicly repent/confess. You know the word does say confess your faults one to another, so then you should do it publicly, if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness, you can't be prideful and act like nothing has happened.. also I think all of us make mistakes we have to realize that and know that we're not sinless.
What does light have to do with darkness
@@andresullivan6473 Are you asking a question or making a statement?
Well said. True
My daughter was in a relationship with a girl, i prayed for almost a year for her. That God would speak to her and convict her and show her that her lifestyle was wrong. She was planning a civil partnership with the girl and she asked me if I would attend the ceremony. It broke my heart when she asked me, because I knew I couldnt attend. I stood my ground and we fell out massively over it. I continued to pray for her and God in His mercy convicted her and she repented. Not only did God convict her, but His grace abounded towards her. She went to Bible College and did really well. She has thanked me for not backing down and that she knew deep down that the gay lifestyle was wrong all along. It is the goodness of God that leads to repentance. Praise God for answering prayer and truly saving my beautiful daughter ❤
I cried when I read this 🩷 I’m gong through similar circumstances please 🙏🏼 pray for my daughter too 🩷
@@Be_Still_ps46.10 🙏
God really answers prayers 🙏
Praise God is right!
We need to pray for Alister cause none of us are without sin.
It's not about any of that yes we All are not without sin but some of us would rather identify with our sin instead of our Lord and Savior and we cannot be ok even for a little bit with any of that plus the one who is our Lord and Savior Jesus is without sin so let just try to understand this progressive Christian thing all of y'all think that some how that the son of God who is without sin you know pure and holy is some how supposed to be ok with sin with any of us sining plus we are talking about sexual sin which the last time I checked was something our Bibles in 1st Corinthians chapter 6:18:20 to flee our run from sexual sin and near that same scripture it also says the any sexual perversion that is outsider of God's covenant with humanity is more then just sin it is an abomination and homosexuality is just that an abomination
Yes, none of us are without sin but we’re not pastors either, and it is not acceptable for him to say that this is an alright thing to do, because it is not!
@@benjaminvalenti1242 Right!
@@rhondae8222 thank you fellow believer
Good the Church haveca pastor like John McArthur. "Don't judge a person in times of his weakness" is a jewel. That 45 yrs of affectionate friendship is something, but to stand by the truth is the right thing!
Piper said it perfectly "It is not a wedding"
Exactly - you're celebrating nothing cause you don't believe it's even a wedding.... so, seriously.... Why the hubbub?
It is an abomination to God!
I can agree wholeheartedly to that. What I cannot agree with Piper about is him voicing his ignorant opinion on why he could not vote for Donald Trump three years ago. It was unnecessary it was self righteous righteous and it was destructive to our country and our cause as Christians living in the U.S. Piper has no right to complain about the demon democrats that have done tremendous damage to our nation and our children.
@@DJG11 No wedding, no attendance!!
John Piper, who engages in Trump-hate idolatry, went so far as to put dismissing Trump ahead of the God breathed, God ordained lives of the unborn. Piper said (referring to Trump): “Christians communicate a falsehood to unbelievers when we act as if policies and laws that protect life and freedom are more precious than being a certain kind of person.” (This is the most damning, most egregious statement Christendom has ever produced.)
Do I idolize Trump? No! I am deeply appreciative of the way God was able to use him to save children from often painful, and always deadly abortions. God worked through that foul, despicable sinner in ways that were nothing short of miraculous. Piper will never see this, for he is fixated on Trump’s obvious shortcomings to the exclusion of seeing God’s mighty hand at work.
We will stand and continue standing on biblical teaching...not on some man's opnion.....the one who tells you the truth is the one who truly loves you.....God bless you more,,, to those preachers who continue to teach us the truth...
Great comment.
"Let the righteous smite me in kindness and reprove me;
It is oil upon the head;
Do not let my head refuse it."
Psalm 141:5
As much as we love our family or friends, we are in a WAR with the forces of darkness. You cannot let your guard down or give the enemy comfort or aid. His aim is to destroy us! Our Captain has already sealed his fate. God will heal our broken hearts, but we must be faithful to Him and to His cause.
How do you love your enemies? You dissect what love is in the love chapter. Love does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth is the part of love we need to look at here. The truth is that those that distort and blaspheme God's order will not inherit the Kingdom but will indeed see and know God's wrath. This is both love and mercy to not affirm what God does not affirm.
How Jesus loves His enemies? What about His example?
Psalm 5:4-6
4 For You are not a God who delights in wickedness;
Evil does not sojourn with You.
5 The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes;
You hate all workers of iniquity.
6 You destroy those who speak falsehood;
Yahweh abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.
@@TheKachkovsky What about it? Where does Christ wink at sin or participate in it in order to "share the Gospel"? (Hint: He doesn't; Eating is not a sin. So please lay the "He ate with sinners" mantra down. It's not pertinent to the discussion).
So there is no once saved always saved
Jesus own words in Matt 10: 34 to 39. [34] Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. [35] For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
I think the grand-mother knew the answer and just needed the support from a pastor and was surprised she didn't.
This was God trying to get Beggs attention.
@@patriciaalber367 Yes, a test that he failed,we christians all get tested and we sometimes fail too.
I totally agree. She asked Alistair to reinforce the biblical directive and truth, and pray with her. Didnt happen
It's unfortunate that many churches today do not want to offend by confronting sin. It's all about a false love by acceptance.
100% agree
Satan is very busy. It doesn't matter if you've been preaching the word of God for 50 years. You can still be attacked. We need to pray for Alistair to repent and get back on track. He's a brother who stumbled. We all stumble, he just happens to be in the public view. Prayers for him. Love all my brothers and sisters!! ✝️😇♥️
I am praying for brother Alistair.
Even the very elect will be deceived.
Praying for Pastor Begg
@@peterjimenez4889 no they will not. If they could they would, read the passage again brother.
Alistair said in regards to the grandma that he wasn’t only thinking of the relationship with the grandchild. That’s not wisdom, that’s a very narrow way of counsel and is putting the person ahead of the Lord.
Why don't we all as Christians pray and keep praying for Alistair Begg. I believe that's what we're supposed to be doing. I do believe he's a Christian man. I do believe he's been a faithful Steward of the Lord but he made a mistake but who doesn't and I know he's in a position of authority, but we should still pray for him.
He
still is our brother in Christ.
By the way. It wasn’t just a moment of weakness. Alistair stood by his comment and refused to admit any wrong. It’s pride. This pride is continuing. It’s not just for a moment.
I honest have a very hard time wondering how such a popular pastor for so long can govern this kind of advice. It’s befuddling to me. It makes me wonder if there’s a reason I never liked listening to Alistair’s preachings.
Exactly. He made a mistake and refuses to acknowledge it and stand corrected. It's sad that a pastor who's shown faithfulness to Scripture now thinks he's above it.
Same here. Not keen on listening to him and now I know why.
Until it happens to you especially someone VERY close to you, it’s very hard! just keep praying for him, God will do His work with him 🙏🏼💙
My neice is gay
she became gay after 4 children and a bad marriage
I wouldnt go to her wedding if she had one
Alistair gave bad advice
@@sandramcccarrick7364 You think So
Would you go to a family member
that was a Satanist
Give me scripture on your point
I said I wouldn't go
I'm not judging
@@sandramcccarrick7364 I didn't say
they were I said would you go to that kind of wedding I asked a question
I said Alistair gave the wrong advice
My opinion not yours mine
Absolutely agree with Pastor John because it’s NOT his opinion but because it’s what God says. IMO, I believe that many women have become “gay/lesbian” DUE to a bad marriage experience, they have been SO hurt that they’ve lost all hope in men. But also that many women ESPECIALLY younger women are narcissists (they want all the attention and want to be lavished all the time) they go for whomever can provide their dream lifestyle.
Before I met my amazing wife, I had a number of bad experiences with relationships with women with whom I was unequally yoked. The LAST thing that would ever occur to me would be to become gay! My actual response was to just to remain single. I didn’t hate women at all. I just didn’t trust my judgement anymore regarding relationships with women. Then I met my soon-to-be wife. After 14 years of marriage, I still marvel that THIS is what a real Godly relationship is supposed to look like.
It’s not a weak “moment “if he continues to stand by his advice.its a weak doctrine.
EXACTLY
Our moment and Gods moment is not the same 🙏🏼 keep praying for him
Compromise is like a snowball rolling down a hill.
"it raises questions as to what one believes that may be under the surface" Yes could be the tip of an iceberg as they say. Also, I like MacArthur's statement, "don't judge someone by a weak moment" I have to remember this. Lot of saints are having there minds changed on accepting evil the pressure is on. Thanks for your work making this video in braking this down.
You're welcome. I'm glad it was helpful.
Before you go off the deep end, because of John McArthurs responses to this, another God fearing, God loving man is being not only judged but ridiculed.
I would say this is more than just a weak moment at this point. He has had ample time to repent after being called out. But instead has tripled down
@@michaelaskew3172 repentance is for sin ;which he did not commit. Selfrighteousness is sin though
@@susandecker6351,we are to judge according to truth.
I didn't hear redicul
Legioner also weigh in on this interviewing Steve Lawson and Burke Parsons. Let's continue to pray for Allister Begg. God bless
If someone has a drinking problem you don't help them kick that problem by becoming a drinking buddy just to talk them out of drinking, you'll only get sucked into that sin yourself.
I have love for Alister Begg and pray he repents. Pastor Mac is right to say not judge a man at his weakest moment. With that said, it’s the doubling down and tripling down that is even more concerning to me. When I got saved I ended up in a mega church and it put on performance that was evil and I was the only one that walked out. I cried and was kind of traumatized because it made me realize there was some pretty unscriptural churches out there and this one was even blasphemous. Then I went on a three year Bible study day and night so I would know when I was hearing false preaching because it scared me to think of being seduced by doctrines of demons. I’m guilty of anger towards these kinds of pastors and was crushed more by Alister’s triple down because how could he not know better? I think to myself how a man that has been scripturally sound for so many years say this. I questioned myself and wondered if I had missed something. Bad advise and bad understanding of Gods Word causes so much confusion with babes in Christ and the body in general. This is heartbreaking.
The same time of thing happened to me in a megachurch, I studied for years , I came to the conclusion that the king James bible is God's preserved word for English speaking poeple. Listen to this preacher . I have listened for 20 years and never heard a false statement Reg Kelly , liberty faith church , Norwood, mo.
If we look at the parable of the prodigal son that Jesus taught us about the great love of the Father, then we should know how to respond to this sort of situation. The Father did not go chasing after his son, wanting to maintain the relationship at all costs, but looked and waited for him to return to him once he came to his senses….what Alistair Begg advised this woman to do is tragically unbiblical and he will have to answer to God for that.
Thank you For this video and thank you Pastor John. I so agree with you. I pray that God will raise up more men like you
You are quite welcome! Glad it was a blessing!
So Alistair Begg would reach out to the LGBTQ "lovers" to reach them through compassion, but calls his brothers in Christ "Pharisees" which is pretty unloving? How does that make any sense? It's almost as if peoples brains (including preachers evidently) are short-circuited when confronted with LGBTQ questions.
When holiness is forgotten (especially in the church) enslavement to iniquity comes in. That enslavement does not make any moral sense in itself. So, it is state when people's brains are morally short-circuited, just as you said.
I like how he said not to fully judge someone in their weakest moment.
Alastair Begg said the letter sat on his desk a long time, and he wrestled and thought about this issue a long time. This was not a moment of weakness. This is a Judas moment.
Was not a week moment , the Holy Ghost and the word of God would make Alistair repent
Alister Begg needs our prayers like we need others’ prayers when we go astray! 🇦🇺🙏
Only he hasn't gone astray
He hasn't gone astray but had a wrong understanding and a lack of wisdom in his advice.
He has got astray. It’s not wrong when a brother in Christ goes astray and we admonish him and offer our prayers.
@@michaelbirke6050 , Well, he hasn't gone astray. He might not have a clear understanding in his thinking biblically. This happen when we want something that we justify with another truth like here, it's love and compassion to the furtherance of the gospel. Sounds good on the surface, but when we see other biblical truths we realize it's a distorted view of love, compassion, and holiness.
Unfortunately, Alister if negating true love compassion roghteousness, and holiness. So we pray God enlighten his understanding.
@@tstjohn777 You either have a clear understanding of Holy Scripture and sound doctrine or you don’t. It’s that kind of compromising that leads one astray.
Alastair Beggs response and calling those who disagree Pharisees in my opinion, shows a real lack of biblical understanding. We who disagree are Pharisees, then one can only Assume that he considers himself the opposite which would make him a Sadducee, or liberal. Those who know their scriptures, and the history of them ,would know there is not one example in the scriptures of Sadducees coming to repentance, and accepting Jesus Christ as their Savior. Not a good crowd. Perhaps our Scottish Brother needs a refresher course.
this is the kind of thing that non christians will notice, and then all of the church suffers for it. they will say that the church is full of hypocrites. when begg did this, he ruined his reputation and wrecked his church.
Amen
Thats why I love going to Grace Community, because John calls out the sin even in our own church. GOD Bless
Can always count on MacArthur for the truth.
"Can always count on MacArthur for the truth."
CAREFUL.
@@mountnman3609Wisdom has been chasing you, but you have always been faster. Adios.
I have been wondering what pain is going on in Alstair Begg's heart, mind, spirit and/or possibly even his neurology that led him to say something that appears to be out of what he has taught from scripture and out of his character. I could be completely wrong but I have dealt a lot with people with neurological issues. One of the early signs of a problem is people acting out of character. Things like this don't happen in a vaccum. We need to pray for him. I also wonder how the grandmother is dealing with this. She's apparently chosen to remain anonymous but she has to know what's going on. Perhaps her grandchild also knows that this controversy is about him or her. The impact this is having on that family is probably tremendous. We need to pray for them, too.
My concern is what happens moving forward for Alister Begg and Parkside. If his own Elders do not call him to repent, what happens when the church is approached to marry a gay or transgender couple? Most likely there are members in Parkside who are dealing with gay or transgender members in their families. If one of these couples approach Alister to marry them, he has opened Parkside, and possibly other evangelical churches, to lawsuits.
I'm surprised that a gay couple or two haven't pushed for a wedding in Beggs church now that he has opened that door
@@williamgullett5911 I think it may happen before too much longer and we are going to hear about in the news when it does happen.
@mdhumphreys It’s definitely a slippery slope and is concerning. Begg said in his sermon that, “not everyone on the pastoral team thinks I gave good advice.” Sadly, it’s probably more likely that we find out that an elder resigned than see Church Discipline conducted. But we should certainly pray for Begg, elders and members of Parkside Church to stand on the Word of God.
@@PreachingforGodsGlory I agree with your assessment. Even though not all the pastoral team agrees with Alister, it is their God-given responsibility to confront Alister biblically. I have been praying for this church because Alister Begg has always been a favorite of mine since first hearing him back in the early 90s. I pray that he will come out with a public statement saying that he gave poor advice and seek forgiveness from the grandmother. Thank you for your ministry and courage to stand for truth in times like these.
I've thought the same thing about people wanting gay or trans weddings there.
They are not Pharasees, even Jesus wouldn’t Bless this marriage❣️🙏🏼 🔥✝️
Tragically Begg's responses to the call to repent display an arrogance and pride that are more concerning than the original unbiblical comments. The days of the "celebrity pastor" who is held on a pedestal need to end. The pastor is never the standard.
Thank you for this video. It was very informative. I have watched just about everyone address the Begg issue but I haven't seen yours. I appreciate your work and your list also.
You are quite welcome! I'm grateful that it was a blessing!
I only recently saw the "man on the middle cross" clip. But there's another clip of one of his sermons where he talks about worship at a megachurch or some big, loud-music church. A great one. When the Bickles and Jakes of the world get called out, I'm not moved. This Begg controversy really hurts - saddens me deeply. This is a turning point
I was actually planning to use the worship clip that you're referencing in a future episode before this whole thing happened. It's definitely a very shocking and disheartening situation.
Thank you for sharing this. Well done.
God is Truth God is Love. Love is living the Truth of God in our lives.
MacArthur is a great speaker! Pleasant voice, no irritating sing song cadence, no umma Hmmm and haws - and he knows his stuff and believes his stuff - I do appreciate John and Alastair but both are just men - frail and human . Pray always pray!
AB lost his witness , especially with the name calling he did because pastors disagree with his advice . He was not charitable to others who disagreed with him
He attacked . It was a v😢ery sad moment .
Where was the attack?
Where was the attack?
@susandecker6351 go listen to AB rebuttal
@@ritaschultz6859 if you're talking about compassion vs Condemnation, already did. Point is I don't stand in judgement to one mans advice. I stand on the word of God. We will spend eternity with this man. He didn't attack anyone. He stood his ground on compassion as he saw fit in that moment. And used a great biblical example.
@@susandecker6351 In calling those who disagreed with him Pharisees. I never heard one Pastor call him names. Not only that but he used the prodigal inappropriately. It was not a great biblical example. That is not what the prodigal parable was about. And if you stand on the Word of God then you must condemn his advice, first of all, and second because he put it out for the whole world to hear, and third, misuse of Scripture in his rant against those who called him out.
It is absolutely wrong to cancel ANY preacher because of one disagreement in how to deal with sinners.
It's called guarding your heart.
Actually I don’t entirely agree with Begg’s response but to publicly castigate him is not correct either. He has been faithful for years and I really wonder what the Lord REALLY thinks about this.
@@julienichols7811 "He has been faithful for years" He and his congregation allow women to preach. The thinking that he is faithful is not right.
Think about what a wedding is. I mean defined by the Bible where it originated.
@@julienichols7811 Read His word and you will know exactly what God thinks of this.. it's not a secret that He would not agree with Begg on this, it's against His teachings.. just because he has been a solid pastor for many years doesn't mean anything, and as a Christian you should know this.. God never changes, and He expects us not to either.. What happens to the people he teaches?
No it’s not. A little leaven corrupts the entire lump. He is not to be trusted at this point. That is the biblical response. Until he is ready to repent
John is faithful to the Word of God. My Our Lord continue to bless him and his ministry.
Well finally someone got Mac Arthur to say something. What is wrong with Alistair Begg? He knows better.
@stevebeasley5181 it's too bad you see something as serious as sexual perversion, overblown nonsense. Maybe you don't understand the bible that much because if you did you would understand why giving someone the advice that they should not only go and celebrate, but bring a gift is so bad and misleading. Allister Begg understands the sin and abomination of homosexuality, so to advise as he did is irresponsible as a pastor, and extremely confusing to the one hearing it and confusion comes from the evil one. Yes Allister Begg has been a faithful man of God, but the advice he gave is troubling.
The LGBTQ community was praising AB, that's a problem as to what it says about AB advice.
And one last thing. AB, and all of us should be more concerned about offending a holy God than making sure we don't offend a practicing homosexual who is a relative.
Real love tells the truth and warns the sinner of the consequences of unrepentance. Showing support for a wedding that is actually not a wedding but a perversion of a wedding by telling someone to not only celebrate, but bring a gift is cowardice. AB treated the situation like a social justice warrior would, like someone who is a progressive. Unfortunately all his years of faithful preaching are going to be overshadowed by this poor advice and his unwillingness to hear and accept correction. That in itself is another serious issue.
@@stevebeasley5181 No, this is a tremendously important issue the church is attempting to deal with and get right. Although we should all know the answer to it, if we spend any time at all in the Word, it is the same old conundrum Christians have dealt with forever. What do we do when our family members, whom we love dearly, are walking a path of destruction and want me to bless them? Shouldn't be a problem to answer that, should it? We expect the heretical churches to answer as Beggs did, but not HIM. These issues come to test the church. God wants us to pay attention to not just the unbiblical answer of Begg, but the fact that a leader can not only make a terrible error, but the response the church, and the Pastor who made it, has. The church is not really good at discipline. This goes back to the Corinthian church and its tolerance of sin. The lack of repentance on Begg's part is something the church needs to watch. What would your pastor do if he made a grave error like that? We need to know what to do. Amazing we have to learn this lesson again.
Pastors are held to the highest accountability to The LORD and hopefully will stand firm on the Principals of God's Gospel of Salvation.
Thank you for sharing John MacArthur’s thoughtful response.
You're quite welcome. I'm glad it was a blessing!
Thanks to John MacArthur for taking a firm stand by the Word of God.
I attend Pastor Beggs church in summer when I am in Ohio, he's solid on his preaching although I disagree with him on this matter, he still preaches against homosexuality in his sermons God gave them up parts 1-3 will give you his stand on these subjects. I think given time Allister will make amends. I'm not throwing him under the buss.
No excuse, Begg.
Much respect to A.B. but for this statement I will to withdraw from his teachings until an apology is given by him from his pulpit. Praying for him.
He is 100% correct
I wonder what the Grandmother actually wound up doing? She was taken aback by Alistair Begg's response so I'm hoping that, as you expressed in this video, the sense of grieving the Holy Spirit would have been the final verdict on her decision.
I think there is a real possibility the grandmother is fictional and that what this is really about is Begg himself having engaged in some secret compromise in regard to alphabet relatives of his own
I hope so too. Sadly, nobody knows who she is or what she ended up doing (and I’m sure she wants to keep it that way). I think her shock may have demonstrated that she just needed affirmation of her conviction from a trusted pastor. That could have given her the courage she needed to say that she could not attend and express why (which is a great opportunity to share the gospel).
From what I heard Alistar Begg thinks his advice is correct. Repentance is a change of mind. He indicated that western Christianity was different the European. Unless I misunderstood
I am glad McCarthy finally addressed it in person not third party
It was not a member of Alistair Begg's 'flock'. Alistair said it was someone he didn't even know- which is worse.
He should have referred her to her pastor for counsel. It was none of Alistair's business.
How did he know if that person was trying to set him up for a fall?
For all his 40+ years of ministry, he lacked discernment and showed bad judgement.
Disappointing but he has alienated himself from so many of his teaching friends.
He has acted very unwisely- he has caused division among so many.
Proverbs 6:19
Sowing discord among the brethren is an abomination to YHWH. Begg needs to take a sabbatical from the pulpit and search the Scriptures for guidance.
When a gay "pastor" and activist is saying "Kudos to Alistair"... There's a major problem and that is evidence enough that Alistair's advice was dead wrong.
Right? That in itself should make him re-think the position he's taken if Scripture doesn't!
Does not matter what I think or what you think..what did God say.
I would say to Alistair "play it out".
Play out that scenario in your head. You're ok with the "kiss the ___" moment? You're ok that most likely the ceremony will include references to god? A god with a little "g"? Not the God of Abraham? Can you imagine what the Apostle Paul would have done? Think he'd be sheepish and fluffy about it?
"Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before an fall"
God will not be mocked. AB is standing on shaky ground. I'm praying for the HS to give this man eyes that see and ears that hear.
Also, AB stands to be elevated in the ell bee gee tee etc community. Is this something he is alright with? JM is right, don't judge a man by his worst moments. I won't but, I'll never pay any attention to his words from this day forth. I basically let 2-3 men of God garner my respect and love. JM is one. Spurgeon is another.
By Grace Alone, He is coming soon!
I love John Macarthur!!!
Like on YT Beckett Cook Show, you are attending a vow that those two people are making to CONTINUE in sin. Good point.
Alistair Begg doesn’t get a pass on this just because he has been a solid teacher 98% of the time. He needs to be marked & avoided for his wickedness in this & his unrepentance.
Yes. It’s been his heart attitude of defiance and lashing out at his critics that extinguished my hope he would recant. He implies it’s only anonymous internet bullies criticizing him but it reality, it’s his contemporaries, pastors he has relationships with.
"Marked and avoided"? Really?Will you replace him?
@@andrewmalinowsky4667 No God will deal with Him if he does not repent.
@@andrewmalinowsky4667 a little leaven effects the entire lump.He will continue to compromise more & more
Begg needs to beg God for forgiveness for his crazy advice.
If you look at and consider the seven churches in Revealations. You will see their are issues in the Church. The question is, which church do you attend in relation to those types of churches?
I love how we all wait for our favorite pastors to comment… as if we are not capable of fully committing to our own opinions until we weigh them against our Christian idols.
I’m sorry to hear that you can’t figure these things out on your own. The Bible seems pretty clear to me...
@@PreachingforGodsGloryyou’re terrible at picking up sarcasm
@@BIG_Z_69I, obviously caught the sarcasm...
Great vid! Do you know where I can find the full video of this Q and A please? Thank you.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. The full Q&A isn't available yet. It was livestreamed on the Church's CZcams page and they always unlist it after streaming. They'll release it later again later.
My four-year-old knows that anything out of bounds concerning God‘s ordainment of a good wedding is sin. Those attending that ceremony are supporting that sin and thus are sinning also.
So....what about Biblical Church Discipline...?? Confront a "brother in sin" personally. If he refuses to repent, take two or three witnesses. If he still refuses to repent, bring it before the church. If he STILL refuses to repent, Kick him out. If anyone has an issue with that, take it up with the Lord Jesus. Matthew 18:15-17
This first step is to go to him alone. You know the part that everyone is skipping. But since we all don't know AB personally, we should refrain from publicly persecuting him. Another thing, that Scripture pertains to offense which doesn't always mean sin. So there's that. But Scripture clearly state what love is and how to approach our fellow Christians. Self righteousness is ugly and is a big issue with Christs church today.
@@susandecker6351 No one "skipped" that part. He has been approached privately OFTEN by MANY. And let's not forget that this advice was given by Begg and shared BY BEGG PUBLICLY. Ergo, public reproach is absolutely in line.
@@jerilowehowell6015 where's your proof? And I'm not talking about our cancel culture. I haven't heard one big preacher state they spoke with him. Who is your many?
@@susandecker6351 He was approached by MacArthur; Justin Peters contacted him, and frankly the American Family Radio group contacted him. He's been contacted. And those are only 3 who have stated they did. You can google them and find where it was stated if you wish.
it is sad. but I am still going to keep praying for Alistair
I wonder if any of the sinners and tax collectors that Jesus sat with struggled with that sin? It’s true that that’s not a true wedding, biblically, so at best it’s a celebration party. Maybe there are bigger things that take precedence over other people wrong choices. Jesus showed there is a way to show love but not be in support of sin. What do you guys think, in light of Jesus sitting with sinners and tax collectors? And how can we do that and not be like the pharisees, who judged Jesus? Honestly asking.
Um.... REWIND!!! He went from a long letter that sat on his desk to listening to her talk .. was it a letter or conversation? ....
AB's advice was nuanced. He said that in a different context his advice would be different.
That's why its a huge wonder why critics treat him as if he endorses same sex marriage
Begg erred for sure. The minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ publicly states that you all are probably not going to like what I say… In that case, he should reevaluate the thought process by which those things that he says is developed. Upon again Christian attending a gay or transsexual wedding is in sin… And there is no other way to explain it. We are to shun the very appearance of sin. I would suggest that Alistair read Titus again, especially the part about strongly disagreeing with, and chiding those who are soft on sin. Though we are instructed to love our brother, and, those outside of the state as well, we are instructed to strongly Police and watch over the ministers of the faith to ensure that they operate within the confines of the scriptural guidance and protocol. Unless Alistair Begg repent of the sin, he should be removed from the conference.
Hi there...just found your channel and so thankful ! I believe the Lord answers our prayers by showing us the way/truth through media like this! I heard about this story back when it happened and I didn't really have the time to think about it seriously. I will be honest and say that right away I imagined this happening to one of my family members and thinking to myself "what would I do?". And my flesh/emotional self immediately said "how could I not go? Even if I don't agree with it, that's a close and beloved family member, no matter what..." Now I can say this: if this situation ever happened to me, I could only pray that God would give me the strength NOT to go, and not to give in disobeying God. And instead seek God's help in finding the right words to explain why I wouldn't be going to ALL of my close family members which most are not real Christians to begin with. This would be one of the hardest things I ever did. Unless I lied to everyone and told them I was sick or something! Of course this would be wrong too!
I'm so glad that you found this channel! Thank you for sharing your honest struggle in wrestling through this. God would certainly give you the strength. Praise God that He is giving you the ability to make a resolution about it before ever being asked. I hope that you'll never be put in that situation. I think it's very unloving of the unbelieving family member to put Christians in such a situation when they know that they cannot affirm their lifestyle.
I pray that you are blessed by the content. God bless!
You keep talking and talking my brother ,please show the answer of pastorjohn before it finished the video !! ❤❤
I can thoroughly appreciate Pastor MacArthur's dialog and compssdionate response. I still remain totally taken aback by so many righteous finger pointers who were ready to totally trash this man of God for voicing his opinion NOT God's directives. He chose to deal with a hurting and mind torn family member who was torn in her response. Dishonoring her Saviour's teachings or honoring a grandchild she cared for. He alone was settled in His spirit about that reply. He alone would atone for his reply. He was brave to do so with such a pretentious group of onlookers and immature people who hold themselves of as the only arbiters of truth! So sad! We are so blinded by judging and not reaping!
I would give the same advice as Pastor Begg. The grandmother said the girl already knew her stance. Christians do many things, watch and listen to many things, go to many events, which could be construed as condoning sin. But Christians have a big hang up with sexual sin as compared to other sins, it is a fact. Christians love to point such sin out.
I agree with McCarther on this
Brother I think the take away from your video is your comment that "what else is he believing that has not come to surface?" That is scary !
It is definitely concerning what could come to light.
But should we judge a pastor on what should have been a person/situation specific piece of private pastoral advice? He has readily stated that he holds to the orthodox position on the matter from a doctrinal point of view and so has not ‘departed from the faith’. Let’s just say that it was poor advice which on reflection should have been different. Which pastor does not regret advice he has given in the past? Where does ‘he who is without sin cast the first stone’ come in all of this?
I remember the day I had to tell my bi-sexual older sister that her homosexuality was an abomination to God who is holy. She asked what the word abomination ment. She has yet to repent and put her faith in Jesus Christ. She could be one of the "such were some of you" as I pray for her salvation often
I have nothing but respect and high regard for Alistair and I think his advice was good.
Please see my other comment below to see that I do understand the challenges with family relationships and these issues.
Until now, I hadn't taken the time to hear about the rumors regarding Alistair Begg.
Alistair said, "All I was thinking about was how to help this grandmother not to lose her granddaughter..."
The relationship is already lost right now. Until that last sentence is understood to the core, and action steps about what to do will come from emotion and not truth.
There is no fellowship of light with dark, no matter the tender memories and bonds that we had with family at some point. No matter if we raised them as our own and invested time, physical strength, tears, prayers, finances, and devotion to help them find Christ and walk with Him.
We have more to hold dear with a person that we have never met, from a different culture , living thousands of miles away--IF they follow Jesus--than we do with a parent, child, or sibling who not only doesn't believe, but calls God's design rubbish and their prideful sin adorable.
If the granddaughter does not repent, there is no hope for any level of relationship with her Christ-honoring grandmother. At best, the grandmother can hold space and be kind, truthful when interacting. No matter how great the lost person feels about it and how much they define the saved family member's love as connected to supporting it by attending, make no mistake, the wedding is a satanic celebration.
The mercy gifting is a beautiful thing that we are to use under the guidance of truth. Those who have it must examine our own blessed gift to be sure that we are using it for what serves the body and no for what brings comfort to us personally. Mercy gifted people will get deeply crushed at times by what seems to harsh of God. In those times, we must deny the most kindred feelings to cling only to what God calls fellowship.
Great video. A man standing in the pulpit preaching God's holy scriptures is held to a higher standard. The clergyman is the teacher of scripture to his congregation. God expects him to teach His Word without compromise or usurping His authority. Satan certainly worked hard in deceiving Mr. Begg. Mr. Begg allowed his feelings and compassion to override that of God's Word. To misguide God's flock is a critical error in shepherding. That would be no different than a Christain mother telling her children it's okay to attend their friend's gay wedding. It's hypocrisy whether it be from the pulpit or from home. The Bible is very clear on the do's and don't's of God's instructions to all believers. This is where I believe the Holy Spirit speaks the loudest in our hearts and minds. We must never depend upon our own reasoning above the Lord's. Believe me, I know. As we all will have to do, Mr. Begg, also, will be accountable for his sins before the Lord on judgment day. The days of repenting will by then have passed us all. To our God be the Glory forever and ever.
Amen!
Hi! Any chance you have recorded this entire night? (I was there and ask a question), I wanted to playback but can find nowhere online.
'Does your grandchild know' is irrelevant because her attendance is self testimony whether she means it to be or not, 2nd, Jesus loves sinners and prostitutes, but he didn't walk with at night as they worked
It's sad that this even needs to be said. So much lacking in discernment in the body!
I love the preachers, John MacAuthour, John Piper, Paul Washer, Voddie Baucham, Steve Lawson, Conrad Mbewe, Alistair Begg, and all the others on Sermonaudio... I pray that they come to a biblical common ground... My hearts breaks when this is happening.. May God give us wisdom to deal with these kinds of situations 🙇♂️
"Growing up in a fundamentalist independent Baptist church, my pastors weren't always right, but they were never in doubt." - Mark Lowry
I’m afraid of people especially preachers who monopolize the truth and don’t have doubts as a living and deep sign of maturity. Peace and love ❤
Let your yay be yay and nay be nay. God’s Word is TRUTH. He has spoken!
Begg's framing of his "counsel" to the grandmother -- whom, conveniently, he had and has never met -- used a common persuasion technique known as "looking past the sale." When the car salesman focuses your attention on those luxury, heated, leather car seats, he's diverting your attention from the base-price of the car. And if luxury, heated, leather car seats turn out to be what grabs your attention, you've been persuaded to look past the sale. You've already subconsciously bought the car, because you need a worthy place to put those luxury, heated, leather car seats. Begg had the grandmother -- if she ever actually existed -- look past the sale with his "and buy them a gift" -- delivered as though an afterthought. Subconsciously, attending the wedding was now a fait accompli in this conversation -- the only thing remaining was whether to buy the couple a coffee-maker or an air-fryer. In short, the grandmother story wasn't an off-the-cuff incident he suddenly remembered. He planned to tell it when he told it, and it was structured to persuade -- the real or invented grandmother, first, and us, next. Further, when he recounted it on Sunday night at his church, that telling had him being much more passive and responsive than he was in the original, intentionally persuasive version.
Not only did he groom the grandmother -- if she ever existed -- past the sale by tossing in that bring-a-gift grift, he immediately turned his attention to the host to quickly reel him in -- and by extension, us -- past any doubts, questions or pushback. He not only doubled-down, he triplied-down.
First, he quickly put the host in the awkward position where ascent to Begg's "counsel" was his only option: "And it is a fine line, isn't it? It really is." What was the host to say to that? Begg asked him a leading question, and then promptly answered it for him. He put the host in the position of having to oppose a highly respected pastor. How was the host to now say, "Pastor, you're wrong," after Begg wrapped it up with that framing? The host was already dragged across the line at that point. But Begg was not done.
Second, he relativized it all with a nod to Philippians 2:12 ... "And people need to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling." If the host had any objections, Begg let him know Christians attending gay weddings -- and, conveniently, pastors who counsel Christians to attend gay weddings -- is a conscience issue. There's no absolute right or wrong to guide the decision. It's non-binary. Every Christian will have to decide for himself, herself or ze-self.
Third, he delivered the kill shot ... the deal-closer ... the coup de grâce to all who object ... Inevitability. Nothing -- absolutely nothing -- can resist inevitability. "I think we're going to take that risk. We're going to HAVE TO take that risk a lot more if we want to build bridges into the hearts and lives of those who don't understand Jesus and don't understand that he is a King." Did you hear it? Christians have NO CHOICE if they want others to understand Jesus and know he's King. After all, they want to build bridges, don't they? Well, it's INEVITABLE -- they're simply going to HAVE TO risk going to gay weddings and "a lot more."
Congratulations, Granny ... you've just bought the car. Enjoy those luxury, heated, leather car seats. Indeed, you've also been primed to return to this dealership when the next new model, "Lot More," hits the street.
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Begg used the speaking skills with which he has been blessed to promote wickedness. He broke down the wall that will see thousands of Christians turned into LGBTQ "allies," who will then push the issue even further in their churches. He created the situation where the majority (I hope) of evangelicals will be forced to push back, earning them even more scorn and contempt as anti-LGBTQ bigots and Pharisees, which Begg claims he is trying to prevent. And, apparently, those bridges he wants to build to those who don't understand Jesus doesn't include him crossing over one of those bridges to the still-faithful church he has damaged to publicly repudiate his evil counsel, which we should expect of one who believes Jesus is King.
I didn't bother reading the rest of your crafty length, cause nothing was left for an afterthought or to be wondered as what to bring as he stated plainly that the Bible should be the gift.
Does everyone only hear what they want to hear?
@@DJG11 Apparently so, because he never mentioned a Bible in the original video made in September. He only said the Bible was the gift when he defended himself from the pulpit. You're more than welcome to view both videos online and see for yourself.
I emailed my pastor a couple of weeks ago after he offered his thoughts on Begg’s response to the “grandmother” because he said “I don’t think that he (Begg) meant to compromise” … I was like 🙆🏻♀️ WHAT??!! But I carefully constructed my email as not to be disrespectful or out of order. But I’ve barely received a response. I now believe that my pastor is compromising. Very very sad 😞
@@DJG11 Here is the transcript of the original video of Begg describing his conversation with the grandmother:
And in very specific areas this comes across. I mean, you and I know that we field questions all the time that go along the lines of "My grandson is about to be married to a transgender person, and I don't know what to do about this, and I'm calling to ask you to tell me what to do" - which is a huge responsibility.
And in a conversation like that just a few days ago - and people may not like this answer - but I asked the grandmother, "Does your grandson understand your belief in Jesus?"
"Yes."
"Does your grandson understand that your belief in Jesus makes it such that you can't countenance in any affirming way the choices that he has made in life?"
"Yes."
I said, "Well then, okay. As long as he knows that, then I suggest that you do go to the ceremony. And I suggest that you buy them a gift."
"Oh," she said, "what?" She was caught off guard.
I said, "Well, here's the thing: your love for them may catch them off guard, but your absence will simply reinforce the fact that they said, 'These people are what I always thought: judgmental, critical, unprepared to countenance anything.'"
And it is a fine line, isn't it? It really is. And people need to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. But I think we're going to take that risk. We're going to have to take that risk a lot more if we want to build bridges into the hearts and lives of those who don't understand Jesus and don't understand that he is a King.
Exactly my thoughts
Brother one critique of your commentaries is you tend to pause and simply reiterate what was already just said in the clip and filibuster a bit too much. Most people appreciate a short commentary and only say omething that adds/clarifies, not restate. And personally, I think its weird when people insert their live video facial reactions to a video that is playing, I don't like nor care to see someone else's facial expressions during a video clip.
I love Pastor John’s answer.
Can you please post the link to Johns Q&A its not on the app ots not on thier website and its not in thier youtube chanel?? I don't know why cant i find it. 🙏
I'll post it in the description when it's available. This came from their livestream on YT but they unlist it after they finish the stream.
@@PreachingforGodsGlory i know they did i got all ready in the evening to watch the live stream and i was so disappointed when i could not find it i was looking forward to it all day (Australia different time line) Thanks God bless 🙏✝️👍
@pruebarratt3085 That's definitely disappointing. Hopefully, they'll release the whole thing soon. God bless!
I've been listening to pastor Begg since 2002. His sermons are the word of God
Thanks for reminding me why I'm no longer a Christian, which I once thought I was eternally predestined to be.
"...if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”" (Romans 10:9-13)
The same scriptures I used to quote to the unsaved back in my soul-witnessing days.@@PreachingforGodsGlory
Amen.!!! God is not mocked..🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I see the love, the humility , the pain and the truthfullness of Pastor John. It was a hard question for him not Theologically but to point out tp Alisters error. We bless the Lord for such a faithful preacher in John McArthur.
Being removed from the Shepherds Conference was a Disgrace on how Humble Christians disagree with one another. The Public Visual is Horrific and particularly given the fact that this issue is much more complicated than meets the eye and has admittedly never been vetted at all. The responses by so called Pastors and Teachers giving Satan a sign of the weaknesses of these Church leaders. I wrote John MacArthur an eleven page letter in Hope of having Alistair return to the Shepherds Conference so we can put this explosive issue behind us and I sent Alistair a copy.
Alistair was absolutely correct in his advice given the evidence presented. I had the exact challenge in my family life with my daughter and I can tell you, we must never conflate Family with Non-family because there is nothing similar between the two. A one fits all doesn't work in a Cultural, Societal Context.
I think as believers we need to realize when THE BIBLE talks about love and hate it is not this hollywood/worldly understanding, The Bible says that GOD so loved the world it wasnt an emotional type meaning it is a commitment to us as HIS creation that he would make a way for us to be saved. Malachi 1 God says he loved Jacob but hated Esau. He had committed his promise to Jacob's lineage not Esau's. We must put GOD'S words first. Even if there is someone we are close GOD is first. We can be gentle about it but the truth must be told. The BIBLE says the truth will set you free not men"s words. You say the truth and THE HOLY SPIRIT do the work. We must hate our family members if they don't obey GOD, Remember what I said about the word hate. We will side with GOD and not commit to walk in the way our family does.
I suspect we'll see it more and more as time goes on where we find it difficult to live at Peace with all men as the scripture says While we strive to obey god people will not allow it To be peaceful. As we tried to be loving and embracing to all people, it will be where the move has to be from us over to them and never the other way And we can't do that
we shouldn't write him off, but I do have a hard time trusting him and his sermons any longer. I feel bad about it, but you can't make a mistake like that without consequences. He sold many of his fellow believers under the bus by calling them pharisees.
Agreed. I lost respect for him after that sermon. I continue to pray for his repentance and I think if people can still listen to him, then good for them. Keep listening to him. I don’t care to anymore unless he repents. And I do have concerns about what may come to light in the future but I won’t tell people to stay away from him. Many will anyway though - because of his slanderous attack in his sermon on any Christians that are concerned with what he is promoting.
Being very close friends for over 40 years, wonder if pastor John called Pastor Begg to discuss this matter. Hope it or will happen.
Yes, they did speak. They both decided it would be best if Alistair did not attend the Shepherd’s Conference as originally scheduled.