How Good Was Joe Namath Actually?

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  • čas přidán 29. 05. 2023
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  • @wb1092
    @wb1092 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I agree. Back then the game would allow defensive backs to maul and harass receivers. Quarterbacks were blindsided with helmet missles. The running game was still essential. Namath was injured many times. His knees were badly damaged. He had what was called the "Jump Pass", due to his ability to leap high in the air and throw a pass. I highly recommend his book "I Can't Wait Until Tomorrow, Because I Get Better Looking Every Day " from an entertaining and intelligent talent.

  • @Macca50
    @Macca50 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Jets fans wouldn't believe how well Joe could run while at Bama before the first knee injury.

  • @RetroRider6689
    @RetroRider6689 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Joe Namath played 3 years longer than he should have. There were rumors that he would either retire or jump to the WFL following the 1974 NFL season but Namath re-signed with New York when the Jets made him the highest paid quarterback in the league. Namath took a physical pounding in 1975 & 1976 playing for two very bad N.Y. Jets squads and as a result his interception totals ballooned. By the time Chuck Knox brought him to the Rams in 1977 he was basically finished. However, it is a testament to Namath's courage and dedication that he played 13 years with knees so badly damaged that he was given a 4-F rating and a deferment from military service after coming out of Alabama. Jets team doctor's said he would be lucky to play 4 years.
    While Namath would miss 28 regular season games between 1970 and 1973 due to injuries, it is his body of work between 1965 and 1974 that made him a Hall of Famer:
    1965
    - AFL Rookie of the Year (AP, UPI, SN)
    - AFL All-Star Game MVP (offense)
    1966
    - 2nd Team All-AFL QB (NEA)
    1967
    - 1st Team All-AFL QB (NEA)
    - 2nd Team All-AFL QB (AP, UPI, SN)
    - AFL All-Star Game Co-MVP (offense)
    - First AFL/NFL QB to throw for 4,000 yards in a single season - a feat that wouldn't be equaled until Dan Fouts did it in Week 16 of the 1979 season
    1968
    - 1st Team QB AFL/NFL Combined All-Pro Team (unanimous)
    - 1st Team All-AFL QB (unanimous)
    - AFL MVP (AP, UPI, Pro Football Weekly, SN, NEA, Football News, Detroit News, PFWA - N.Y. Chapter, Long Island Athletic Club)
    - Pro Football Player of the Year (Miami Touchdown Club)
    - AFL All-Star Game selection
    - AFL Championship Game MVP
    - Super Bowl III MVP
    - N.Y. Jets Team MVP
    - Hickok Belt Award Winner (Most Outstanding Pro Athlete)
    1969
    - 1st Team QB AFL/NFL Combined All-Pro Team (NEA)
    - 1st Team All-AFL QB (NEA, Sports Illustrated, N.Y. Daily News)
    - 2nd Team All-AFL QB (AP, UPI, SN, PFW)
    - AFL MVP (NEA)
    - AFL All-Star Game Selection
    - N.Y. Jets Team MVP
    - George Halas Award (Pro Football Writers Association)
    - Selected as First Team QB on the All -Time AFL Team by the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Jan. 1970)
    1972
    - Consensus 1st Team All-NFL QB (NEA, Pro Football Weekly, Pro Football Writers Association)
    - 2nd Team All-NFL QB (AP, Football News)
    - Consensus 1st Team All-AFC QB (UPI, Pro Football Weekly, Sporting News, Newark Star-Ledger)
    - NFL Pro Bowl Selection - Voted as starter by AFC Conference coaches but did not play due to ankle injury
    - Tied for 3rd in AP NFL MVP voting
    1974
    - NFL Comeback Player of the Year
    - 2nd Team All-AFC QB (Newark Star-Ledger)
    - N.Y. Jets Team MVP
    Playing in windy Shea Stadium, Namath finished as the AFL's 2nd All-Time ranked passer (1970 Official AFL History manual published by the Sporting News - page 112). It was a different era when Namath played. Only 3 of the top 9 all-time AFL rated passers threw more TD's than INT's (Dawson, Lamonica & Flores) and only Namath and Len Dawson finished with completion percentages over 50% (1500 or more attempts). The current passer rating system does not take in to account qualities like courage, dedication and leadership - all traits that Joe Namath possessed. An added note regarding passer ratings (from the NFL website):
    "It is important to remember that the system is used to rate passers, not quarterbacks. Statistics do not reflect leadership, play-calling, and other intangible factors that go into making a successful professional quarterback."
    Namath quarterbacked the Jets to the most significant triumph in pro football history. It was a game changer that finally brought credibility to the upstart American Football League. In June 2019 Joe Namath was selected by Pro Football Journal as Player of the Decade for the period covering 1965-75:
    nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2019/06/players-of-decade1965-75.html?m=
    Hall of Fame Quarterbacks with more interceptions than touchdown passes:
    George Blanda 277 Int's/236 TD passes
    Y.A. Tittle 248 Int's/242 TD passes
    Bobby Layne 243 Int's/196 TD passes
    Ken Stabler 222 Int's/194 TD passes
    Joe Namath 220 Int's/173 TD passes
    Sammy Baugh 203 Int's/187 TD passes
    Norm Van Brocklin 178 Int's/173 TD passes
    Bob Waterfield 128 Int's/97 TD passes
    Arnie Herber 106 Int's/81 TD passes
    Dutch Clark 26 Int's/11 TD passes
    Ace Parker 50 Int's/30 TD passes
    Recommended reading:
    www.footballperspective.com/joe-namath-has-become-footballs-most-misunderstood-quarterback/

  • @depaola63
    @depaola63 Před měsícem +1

    Absolute Legend 💥🥊🌟

  • @charlesciminera5881
    @charlesciminera5881 Před rokem +8

    He left his best years behind him at Alabama after his knee injury he was never the same

  • @elevenb1933
    @elevenb1933 Před 7 měsíci +1

    He was the most important man in football. Ruth struck out a lot so did Reggie Jackson the most in baseball history. They were considered great players. We still talk about him. He also had swagger and style besides a great arm and very talented . They were 18 pt underdogs in Super Bowl 111. Remember that. My favorite athlete still to this day. I’ve seen him play many times

  • @blueberrybubblegumm
    @blueberrybubblegumm Před rokem +6

    Patrick Mahomes has had a personal QB coach since he was 12.
    Patrick Mahomes was in highly competitive summer passing leagues every summer of high school.
    Patrick Mahomes threw the ball 50 times a game in high school.
    Patrick Mahomes threw the ball 60 times a game in college.
    And Patrick Mahomes has been training physically and conditioning for years, he knows the importance of taking care of his body.
    Now we're shocked that he is what he is?????
    Joe Namath never had a QB coach ever.
    Joe Namath never had summer passing leagues in high school.
    Joe Namath threw the ball 10 times a game in high school and 15 times a game in college.
    It's insanely amazing that he was even able to do what he did in the pros considering QB's were killed back then and DB's manhandled the WR's.
    Joe Namath drank a lot and didn't sleep much, he never had access to strength and conditioning or understood the importance of taking care of your body.
    Yes, Joe threw 173 td's and 220 ints.
    Put him in 2023 with all the advantages that players have today and he throws 50 td's a year

    • @Fireyninjadog
      @Fireyninjadog Před rokem

      What about his leadership? Does that change?

    • @lendrury2771
      @lendrury2771 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Besides the drinking Namath also enjoyed his nose candy . Couldn't leave the coke alone
      So the booze and coke and chain smoking cigarettes derailed his career because he absolutely had talent

    • @tiptoeburgIar
      @tiptoeburgIar Před 4 měsíci

      His knee condition was congenital. Read his biography. He was regularly having them drained of pus after games in high school.

  • @dedricthere
    @dedricthere Před 6 měsíci +9

    You tell ‘em Elmer Fudd! Joe Rules!

    • @brucekugler5164
      @brucekugler5164 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Elmer Fudd is right on

    • @depaola63
      @depaola63 Před měsícem

      That’s cold! If he really talks like that 😳

  • @randlemarsh
    @randlemarsh Před rokem +4

    This sounds like Kyle's cousin, Kyle!

  • @tyrusgerlach
    @tyrusgerlach Před měsícem

    The most beautiful passes that any QB has ever thrown

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Před 25 dny

      Namath often hit the open linebacker and open defensive back. He had an uncanny ability to do this .

  • @danbasta3677
    @danbasta3677 Před 13 dny

    Let's put it this way. Joe Namath came from Beaver Falls, about 15 miles away from whare I live here in Ohioville Boro, Beaver County Western Pennsylvania.

  • @urbanlegendsandtrivia2023
    @urbanlegendsandtrivia2023 Před 4 měsíci +2

    LOL!!!
    Joe Namath was the ALL-TIME NFL passing leader in yards per game upon retirement.
    He lost a lot of easy TD passes because his coach ran the ball into the end zone.

  • @LooseBooty-ik5cs
    @LooseBooty-ik5cs Před 4 měsíci +1

    He was good at chasing skirts!

  • @user-jz8mc5gj6y
    @user-jz8mc5gj6y Před měsícem

    Namath and Montana are the only QB's in history to have won a National Championship in college and a Super Bowl in the pro's

  • @davewilson3113
    @davewilson3113 Před 28 dny

    I believe he got to full around with Ann Margaret in movie. CC Ryder? Definitely a Hall of Famer.

  • @JackSquat54
    @JackSquat54 Před 8 měsíci

    I don't think there was a roughing the passer penalty back then. Some teams had a reputation of knocking QB's out of the game before it was over, or as least sit out 3 or 4 series during the game. But Joe made the HOF mainly be being the first AFL QB to win a Championship. ( There was no Superbowl back then)

  • @jkrasney1
    @jkrasney1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Golden Arm - Namath could throw rhe ball 60+ yards with accuracy to Maynard or Sauer.

  • @CaptainAhab-im3kd
    @CaptainAhab-im3kd Před měsícem

    Do a video on how a cerain religious but Heisman-winning UF quaterback got screwed by the NFL. That would be a great story for any budding journalist. Yes I'm talking about Tim Tebow.

  • @jeffreykitchen468
    @jeffreykitchen468 Před měsícem

    Is this Elmer Fudd? Could Joe run like a wabbit?

  • @Matt-xv2cp
    @Matt-xv2cp Před měsícem

    He was the right handed Ken Stabler, or vice versa.

  • @stealthbomber2127
    @stealthbomber2127 Před 2 měsíci

    Joe's era was different than todays no defense allowed ruled games. The stupid tackle box and legalized intentional grounding and legalized holding rules did not exist. Defenders could hit the receivers as long as the ball was not in the air making route running and precision patterns much more difficult. The game is so cheap and is nothing but arena ball on a large field as I have not watched it in years. Joe at his best was greatness and that cannot be disputed.

  • @oswaldboelcke5470
    @oswaldboelcke5470 Před 4 měsíci

    If I could pick one QB in the 1960s and owned an NFL team, I would have selected Joe Namath.

  • @urbanlegendsandtrivia2023
    @urbanlegendsandtrivia2023 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Namath and Unitas would be the two best QBs in the NFL in 2024.
    They had the best skill sets, but faced the toughest defensive rules.

  • @GGE47
    @GGE47 Před rokem +1

    Today's rules limit what defense can do that allows receivers to get wide open more than back then. Therefore, there is a lot more passing than running the football. This has changed the game too much as there is too much passing and not enough running to balance the offense. Comparing today's quarterbacks to yesterday's quarterbacks. it is apples and oranges. To me the games look too much alike and gets boring. Sometimes it reminds me of Arena football. It is the same in college football and it will be a cold day in Hell before a running back wins the Heisman trophy.

    • @Fireyninjadog
      @Fireyninjadog Před rokem

      That's fair. However, I think you can compare him to other qbs in his time, and most of them were better

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 Před 8 měsíci

      Derrick Henry........😊

  • @Fireyninjadog
    @Fireyninjadog Před rokem +3

    The Drew bledsoe of his era. However, i still believe he's the worst hall of famer, at least for qbs. He was a decent qb, but when his arm didn't throw well, it was really, really terrible. He had an alright first 5 years, but after that, he was hurt, and ineffective, and at times, absolutely terrible. I know the 60s and 70s was different than today's nfl, but you have to realize other qbs in his time were much better, at accuracy, mobility, winning, and just being a leader. Namath is good, but in my opinion, not canton bound

    • @Yeomannn
      @Yeomannn Před 9 měsíci +3

      The best downfield passer, sack avoider, and fumble avoider of his era is merely a decent QB?

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@YeomannnI'm glad you told that Auburn fan off. Superbowl Joe was great.

    • @urbanlegendsandtrivia2023
      @urbanlegendsandtrivia2023 Před 7 měsíci +1

      LOL. The greatest passing form in NFL history. The greatest footwork in NFL history. He was Babe Ruth and Wilt Chamberlain combined. The NFL even issued an official book in the 1970s and picked Joe Namath the top QB with 24 of points, while Archie Manning was second with 23 of 25 points. He would destroy the modern league. Gale Sayers had mediocre statistics too, because defense dominated the game before the 1980s.

    • @tiptoeburgIar
      @tiptoeburgIar Před 4 měsíci

      There's no set criteria for being in the PFHOF other than receiving enough votes throughout the induction process. As such, it's impossible to quantify whether someone in doesn't belong or vice versa.

    • @jtillis1517
      @jtillis1517 Před měsícem

      You’re correct, he’s not Canton bound. He’s already there. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @user-ec8kw5ri4k
    @user-ec8kw5ri4k Před 4 měsíci

    Your accent is stronger than his knees.

  • @ReBrandenSports
    @ReBrandenSports Před 9 měsíci +4

    The most overrated QB of all time

  • @kevinmadden1645
    @kevinmadden1645 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Actually he was very overrated.

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Před 25 dny

      @@urbanlegendsandtrivia2023 I don't know when Madden made that statement but I assume it predates the arrival of such as Montana , Peyton Manning, Brady, Brees and several others .

  • @teachone2261
    @teachone2261 Před 2 měsíci

    Fake NY accent

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Před 25 dny

      You do mean a Southern(Alabama) accent ,don't you?