According to a Facebook post from Garrett the Vortex will have an Iron Bias setting....JUN 24TH update as of the quick guide and Garretts page no mention of a iron bias.
I missed your absence on CZcams Cal. Your programs and valuable information continue to help me find some great things with my Deus. Keep on trucking !
No one else has mentioned the Vortex shortfalls. Garrett people are very brand loyal and that may be their only saving grace. I mean look at all those people that bought the CAMO edition of their detector !!!! Nice to see you again 🙂
You know this is going to upset the fan boys but you have to overlook their ignorance and don’t get discouraged at negative comments from them. We need good honest videos like these from people like you
Agreed, Calabash. Many of us had hope for a new tech top end detector to put Garrett back at the top. I also am truly let down. Guess there was a reason for not having Iffy or TSS or you testing for them!!!
The real test is how much more are people willing to pay for software. Garrett is testing the waters and opening a proverbial flood gate on ways to keep charging the buyer past purchase. People keep saying "no that is for an upgrade to the next machine", only time you pay. AT FIRST. But think update/bug fix subscriptions and not even a damn manual without paying for it first. That's how bad it could get if the greed mongering companies see people are willing to do it. If you start working on bigger things first (upgrade features), people are slowly conditioned into paying for "updates" to the software which then leads to paying for "bug fixes" because only the new "update" will have the fix. The next thing you know you're paying for anything and everything they can come up with. It's not paranoid thinking if you look at how the tech industry already does this crap. And all thanks to Garrett for trying to be a trend-setter here and emphasize how software is where it's really at, that the hardware is a mere thing that only adds a physical element to your hands and eyes.
Now this is the calabash we all need. The city bird watching calabash is ok but the metal detector calabash is the real calabash. So glad you are back with the same passion that you had before. 10 years ago I first watched one of your videos and you lit a fire under me to get back into detecting after I had been out of the hobby for a few years. However, you have cost me a fortune in detectors. I had 14 machines at one time because i was testing them like you did. I find more joy in testing machines than I do actually hunting at times
Undisputedly, any prudent person would appreciate the in-depth study presented here as myself, I have been waiting for a conclusive evaluation and have learned Calabash is adept in presenting all relevant facts for those concerned. I will continue to observe. Thank you for the video.
the sells on the vortex will seal the fate of the developers I don't think it will be a big seller at all garrett dropped the ball. I guess there happy with just their pin pointers.
I love the Gerrit carrot but I recently found that the Minelab Pro 40 actually out performed on a white gold studded diamond earring search. The Gerrit carrot could not even detect it but the Minelab Pro 40 could. Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
Good to see you alive and kicking Calabash. The bird videos have been great to watch but seeing you talk about detectors is where you definitely are showing your passion. Thanks for your opinion on the Vortex. I have to say that I do like the upgrade ability they have introduced with this Vortex. That is definitely a strong point going for them. I can see where this could be useful in the future of metal detectors
Why did Garrett aquire Whites Patents if they are not going to use them? The MX Sport/MXT has multi tones, Auto ground tracking. I will give credit though for recreating the spectragraph "bars" tech although the really cool feature with that the V3i spectragraph had was you could see what freq was hitting hardest on a target. I can almost look past the lack of tones but only 3 recovery speeds is concerning. I've been saying for 10years if someone just took the V3i and gave it a carbon shaft and lighter waterproof control box with modern processing speed they would sell like hotcakes.
I gave away my Garret AT Pro a year ago..and haven't missed it at all. The only Garrett Product I use is the pinpointer. They have consistently dropped behind in the technology department and I doubt they can keep up these days.
I got a question! When we put our hands on it will all these features that it is currently missing magically appear? I did not design the Metal Detector I am just pointing out the OBVIOUS...
@@calabashphotography1234 does anyone think this is gonna be on par or outperform it rivals ? I doubt even the most loyal Garrett user have any faith in that i think they mainly want to support an american company but it just seems like its the apex 2.0 where you have a small group of extremely dedicated individuals that want to base a machines final bad judgment based loosely on test garden and nail test results and yes absolutely this is great way to get a handle and an understanding of how the machine works but i think the majority of us are looking for objects that are naturally lost and buried not things intentionally buried and some very experienced detectorists Like paystreak for instance have stated this several times that the real proof should be in feild testing and if you look at the success stories with Garrett machines it seems like they have no problems finding some really great stuff but i guess a broken clock is right at least twice a day and i think most would agree there build quality and warranty and customer service is really good also things to consider when making an investment into any sport/hobby
They used Whites detectors last software patent board to make this machine. Its really probably not new software. Remember they bought all Whites patents. They put it in a new package to seem like a brand new idea.
Nice to hear from you again Calabash. A little bird told me in my ear that there was a chance that you would give an objective review from the (missed chance) Vortex.
Hi from 🇬🇧, Firstly I did own a Garrett AT Max a couple of years or so ago as I liked it a lot , but sold it as my life got busier… Now I’m thinking of returning to the fields ( of treasure ) again after seeing the launch of the Vortex … So I’m so glad I’ve watched your video and thank you for sharing your knowledge… I will await to see your unbiased video when you post testing it out soon and will contact yourself to help me make a decision on choosing a $600- $800 metal detector in the future…Nice one buddy , respect from over the pond 🇺🇸🇬🇧
I realize that we have yet to see real testing comparisons of the new VX9, but the more this new Garrett Vortex gets digested, the more of a disappointment it is turning out to be. Garrett clearly fell short of leapfrogging Nokta's and Minelab’s latest onslaught of new performance and value detectors like the Xtrerra Elite and Nokta’s Triple Score, let alone conquering models like the Nox 900, Legend, Manticore and DEUS II. I can only imagine how much Garrett spent on that Storm media where they could have just spent that $$ on creating a real ground breaking effort, not a hybrid of old and new that appears to fall short. My reaction of the new Vortex: >> “Disappointed"
I dont wish failure on any company especially on an American owned company but they need need to drop that price a little cause my Nokta double score was $349.00 with a free pair of headphones and its every bit as good!!!
Major letdown. This thing doesn't even have a vibrating handle option and you have to pay a ransom just to have wireless headphones enabled if you buy the VX5.
Well said! So much missing from this new Garrett compared to even cheaper machines. I priced the new Nokta and ML Elite. This would cost me more for allot less features. Not even a pitch audio?! Who is this machine made for?Does not seem like its for the beach or old sites with no tone options available. Maybe made just for KG and Ringy. Everyone else will be sticking with Nokta and Minelab.
Calabash, you need to get your head right, you KNOW it is going to be the epitome of awesomeness when they release it in the "Urban Blue Camo Pattern"!!!! (I bought a D2 because of your reviews when they came out, and have NEVER regretted it, thank you Sir.)
I used garrett apex for 3 years and was happy with machine but bought minelab equinox last October it's a game changer. I've looked at vortex and too many things they have got wrong. Thanks for your comment 👍
I think it is quite telling that Garrett never seems to want to answer these questions. Why do their machines not have selectable tones? Why no iron bias? Why no auto noise cancellation? Why do their modes simply change the notch and not the processing? Just answer the questions. There may be some very good reasons that we are not aware of for all these missing features, although I doubt it. I don't want to knock Garrett. I grew up using their machines amongst many others and I have fond memories of those times but, things have moved on, a lot! and I can't help but feel that Garrett has been coasting on past glories for far too long now. I "hope" the Vortex is more than we have seen but I am not holding my breath.
Liked and subbed…heard a lot about you and your channel, hunted it up a good while back and like Houdini was gone. Glad you’re back and doing your thing!
you forgot backlit buttons 👍🏻 and a search led light for the coil and the area around for those nightly adventures ✌🏻 and for the rest you are right I do have the ace apex and it was lacking in these 2 things so I bought the double score and the triple score is coming soon in 🙏🏻 and the ultra for my daughter is just great for what you get in my book the new vortex isn't worth in my book to buy too there are better machines out there and still coming in and I'm calling it here and now let's wait and see what nokta's answer will be I'm excited 😁💪🏻🇱🇺😎🙏🏻✌🏻👍🏻 when they come out with a better detector that's the money worth and still lots of people can buy it 👍🏻🙏🏻
I agree 100% on all points. I did pre-order a little prematurely. I am also disappointed in the features that you would naturally assume it would have. But I probably won't cancel the order unless it takes a while to receive it. Just curious about the performance in my garden. It's a good chance I will sell it after testing. Good to see you back talking about detectors.
@@calabashphotography1234 I think you can tell by the masses' responses... That your "try" is valued and much appreciated. Take care and hope to see you again soon.
Nokta’s lower end has better options and will probably out perform. Very disappointing. I do hope you or iffy gets ahold of one to test. I’m not very optimistic on the outcome though
While I totally agree with your assessment, I will still buy one since it is the only American made option we have for a multi unit. Not to mention I like the looks of it. I waited a few days to make this comment to avoid getting bashed! Thanks Calabash!
Automatic tracking on a metal detector is a double-edged sword. True, if you're hunting an area that has vast mineralization changes, it's a great feature. Just know you may sacrifice depth as a result of this feature. I like fixed and hunt with it solely here in the minerilized VA soil. What I like most is to leave it fixed alongside the use of a shortcut button to re ground balance. The same issues can be said about sensitivity. Emf disturbances can vary constantly at sites, too. An automatic gb feature would be great. However, it's not a show stopper, in my opinion. I would argue that what matters most to us "detectorists" is , performance, performance, performance. Does the machine discriminate well at depth? Does it go deep? Does the machine cancel iron as well in ground, as the demo given in the live video from Garret? The people will decide the fate of any company, can't wait for the in the field reviews soon to come. Appreciate your critiques Calabash.
Hello from Italy! more than 10 years ago I discovered this fantastic world of metal detecting and I did it with my first metal detector, a Garret Ace series... years later after having tried practically all the metal detectors on the market... currently my instrument the flagship is an xp deus 2.. honestly, I was very disappointed by this new Garret Vortex.. I would have expected a new AT series.. this tool is clearly just marketing.. I'll try it.. we'll see..
Well...that was informative..to say the least. I own and use many different make machines and here's my take on what I think Garrett are/were hoping to accomplish: they call this the world's first "fully upgrade-able" metal detector. Now I am not sure what they are trying to say here but if I understand it correctly the pitch is that as you progress on your metal detecting experience and abilities, you are able to pay for increased additional upgrade features that can be programmed into each machine, thereby upgrading its performance from its existing level to the next level. How this process differs from the software updates that Nokta and Minelab already continuously offer to their clients machines free of charge I am not sure. If that is/was their intention or marketing plan then one would think that the VX9 version/model would be the flagship and should have been made/offered as the top of the line model, already possessing newer state of the art technologies and obviously incorporating all the expected features that are currently lacking and identified in this video, plus even more. That version would be at the highest price point, and then the VX5 and VX7 offering less features than the VX9, and at lower price points respectively. That way they would be satisfying the requirement to produce a unit that possesses the expected and demanded features of experienced users in an industry/hobby where technology and user required features are advancing every few months. This strategy would also offer less complicated versions to the beginners/entry level users. Interestingly enough, I still have and use my 12 year old Garrett AT Pro International, however its use is limited to one specific hunting aspect that I feel it does well at and that is finding Canadian clad.(live in Canada) In comparison to my Equinox and Legend features, performance, and technology my AT Pro is a technological dinosaur. So we will wait to see how the market responds to this machine. Cheers!
Fabulous informative and raw honest video as usual, welcome back! i do have a quick question? what's your choice on best 3 detectors to hunt in heavy EMI conditions? preferably cheaper if possible, not looking to pay a tonne of money for a EMI buster lol I currently own minelab 800, at max, and whites mx sport
equinox 700 comes to mind...I have not tried the Elite yet...I know the 900 handles it really well I think they put the same EMI mitigation in the 700...Manticore is the best I have seen but it cost a lot of money.
Calabash… great to see you back, but very disappointing to see all the negatives about lack of features…you missed the point that Garrett will probably bring out a signature “Camo” addition which will not need all these bells and whistles that everything other manufacturer provides within their product package 🤣🤣🤣
Big disappointment for me was I thought there would be more technology breakthrough with the display like they had with the GTI series back in the day,,, nothing but numbers and cursers like the rest of the machines on the market,,
I guess if the 9 was $400 it would be a good entry level, Like you I was looking for something really good from America and I was even big Garrett guy from the 80's and 90's ...The last ones I really liked was the Master Hunters series, Fisher too has disappointed with no new features ...Rain Jacket...are you kidding me ! I did find a lot of gold with the CZ-21, but it's out the door now too I liked the you guys are FIRED part
Agree with what you said, it's just recycled tech that the other companies have with techno babble to try and dress it up. As for target ID I have both Notka and Minelab detectors and have never had an issue with either about what the ID says about what I'm about to dig in regular circumstances.
It's unfortunately all true. I started on a Garrett. I'm a big fan of American Made but this seems like a flop. Especially after the Legend made many of these missing features affordable. Hard to believe this was their response.
I live over in England and i always get drawn into this new detector BS The main uk Garrett dealer are making it sound like something massive is coming in the real world it's all a sale's pitch. I have an XP Deus 1 with a 9inch coil and even though its old it hits the targets everytime and folds away to fit in a small backpack. I have a back up detector the Vanquish 340 and even though it's a £220 basic detector it hits 99% of the test targets i put down from tiny coins to large hoard shaped objects
Great content. I see you like photography too. I am a novice when it comes to photography. I recently bought a Canon EOS XSI with two lenses (18-55 mm and a 55-250mm) from a Goodwill for $35. Is that a good starter set for the price?
Very thorough analogy of the Vortex, the best I’ve seen. Only question I have is will there be those updates mentioned by Calvin in the future? Such as a VX11
Too bad our top domestic metal detecting company doesn't invest the time & resources to build a better product to compete with the BIG2 ! They need to get Jase Robertson in and raise some cane!
What makes the original Deus better than the Deus 2? And since you can still buy the Deus 1, why was it better in the "good old days?" Just genuinely curious.
According to a Facebook post from Garrett the Vortex will have an Iron Bias setting....JUN 24TH update as of the quick guide and Garretts page no mention of a iron bias.
The Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ metal detector 1997 sound better then this
I missed your absence on CZcams Cal. Your programs and valuable information continue to help me find some great things with my Deus. Keep on trucking !
I appreciate that!
XP💪🏻
Appreciate your knowledge. New office looks great👍👍
Thanks 👍
This is the best critique of the Vortex launch I've seen anywhere. Thanks for putting it together and welcome back.
Spot on Calabash. I use the Vanquish 540 Pro pack. Excellent machine. Thanks.
Nokta says why pay more for less. Garrett responds with hey guy’s “pay more for less is our motto”
Bro…your back ..nice to see you 👍🏼
No one else has mentioned the Vortex shortfalls. Garrett people are very brand loyal and that may be their only saving grace. I mean look at all those people that bought the CAMO edition of their detector !!!! Nice to see you again 🙂
Happy to see you are back!
Thanks!
Legend and Double Score are getting it done for me. Great depth on both.
Glad to hear it!
You know this is going to upset the fan boys but you have to overlook their ignorance and don’t get discouraged at negative comments from them. We need good honest videos like these from people like you
Agreed, Calabash. Many of us had hope for a new tech top end detector to put Garrett back at the top. I also am truly let down.
Guess there was a reason for not having Iffy or TSS or you testing for them!!!
The real test is how much more are people willing to pay for software. Garrett is testing the waters and opening a proverbial flood gate on ways to keep charging the buyer past purchase.
People keep saying "no that is for an upgrade to the next machine", only time you pay. AT FIRST. But think update/bug fix subscriptions and not even a damn manual without paying for it first. That's how bad it could get if the greed mongering companies see people are willing to do it. If you start working on bigger things first (upgrade features), people are slowly conditioned into paying for "updates" to the software which then leads to paying for "bug fixes" because only the new "update" will have the fix. The next thing you know you're paying for anything and everything they can come up with. It's not paranoid thinking if you look at how the tech industry already does this crap. And all thanks to Garrett for trying to be a trend-setter here and emphasize how software is where it's really at, that the hardware is a mere thing that only adds a physical element to your hands and eyes.
Now this is the calabash we all need. The city bird watching calabash is ok but the metal detector calabash is the real calabash. So glad you are back with the same passion that you had before. 10 years ago I first watched one of your videos and you lit a fire under me to get back into detecting after I had been out of the hobby for a few years. However, you have cost me a fortune in detectors. I had 14 machines at one time because i was testing them like you did. I find more joy in testing machines than I do actually hunting at times
Love the brutal honesty! I value your opinion as a user and a spender on all of this equipment! I will stick to Minelab and Nokta!
Undisputedly, any prudent person would appreciate the in-depth study presented here as myself, I have been waiting for a conclusive evaluation and have learned Calabash is adept in presenting all relevant facts for those concerned. I will continue to observe. Thank you for the video.
Thank you!
I will stick to my XP Deus 2 , LOVE that Detector , ALWAYS finds items even mix with Hot Rocks.......Incredible !
I always appreciate your honesty, and the work you put in your videos.
I appreciate that!
the sells on the vortex will seal the fate of the developers I don't think it will be a big seller at all garrett dropped the ball. I guess there happy with just their pin pointers.
I love the Gerrit carrot but I recently found that the Minelab Pro 40 actually out performed on a white gold studded diamond earring search.
The Gerrit carrot could not even detect it but the Minelab Pro 40 could.
Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
Good to see you alive and kicking Calabash. The bird videos have been great to watch but seeing you talk about detectors is where you definitely are showing your passion. Thanks for your opinion on the Vortex. I have to say that I do like the upgrade ability they have introduced with this Vortex. That is definitely a strong point going for them. I can see where this could be useful in the future of metal detectors
Me too but it is missing too much other stuff...
Thanks CB !! I'll save my money. !!
Why did Garrett aquire Whites Patents if they are not going to use them? The MX Sport/MXT has multi tones, Auto ground tracking. I will give credit though for recreating the spectragraph "bars" tech although the really cool feature with that the V3i spectragraph had was you could see what freq was hitting hardest on a target. I can almost look past the lack of tones but only 3 recovery speeds is concerning. I've been saying for 10years if someone just took the V3i and gave it a carbon shaft and lighter waterproof control box with modern processing speed they would sell like hotcakes.
Absolutely freaking-A right on that....i NEVER should have let my V3i go. Best unit ever in my opinion.
Welcome back Calabash. I've missed your videos and your unbiased opinion.
Hey, thanks
Calabash!! The man, the legend has come through yesss sirr lets goo!!!
I gave away my Garret AT Pro a year ago..and haven't missed it at all. The only Garrett Product I use is the pinpointer. They have consistently dropped behind in the technology department and I doubt they can keep up these days.
Garrett's best release yet - Calabash 2.0
Valid points. I'm curious to see this new MD-MF in action.... Thanks for the information.
I got a question! When we put our hands on it will all these features that it is currently missing magically appear? I did not design the Metal Detector I am just pointing out the OBVIOUS...
@@calabashphotography1234 does anyone think this is gonna be on par or outperform it rivals ? I doubt even the most loyal Garrett user have any faith in that i think they mainly want to support an american company but it just seems like its the apex 2.0 where you have a small group of extremely dedicated individuals that want to base a machines final bad judgment based loosely on test garden and nail test results and yes absolutely this is great way to get a handle and an understanding of how the machine works but i think the majority of us are looking for objects that are naturally lost and buried not things intentionally buried and some very experienced detectorists Like paystreak for instance have stated this several times that the real proof should be in feild testing and if you look at the success stories with Garrett machines it seems like they have no problems finding some really great stuff but i guess a broken clock is right at least twice a day and i think most would agree there build quality and warranty and customer service is really good also things to consider when making an investment into any sport/hobby
Muti dimensional technology😂 without basic functions? More Bull crap! I’m glad someone doesn’t mind hurting some feelings To bring the truth out. 👌🏼
They used Whites detectors last software patent board to make this machine. Its really probably not new software. Remember they bought all Whites patents. They put it in a new package to seem like a brand new idea.
Love your unbiased views. I am excited to get out and try one! I am hoping it is a great detector.
Thanks!
Let's go let's go Knowledge ... I appreciate your knowledge ✌👵
Good to see you're still at this calabash!
Thanks for your channel.
Nice to hear from you again Calabash. A little bird told me in my ear that there was a chance that you would give an objective review from the (missed chance) Vortex.
Interesting!
Thanks Calabash. I'm happy to see you're back on talking about MDing.
My pleasure!
Hi from 🇬🇧, Firstly I did own a Garrett AT Max a couple of years or so ago as I liked it a lot , but sold it as my life got busier… Now I’m thinking of returning to the fields ( of treasure ) again after seeing the launch of the Vortex … So I’m so glad I’ve watched your video and thank you for sharing your knowledge… I will await to see your unbiased video when you post testing it out soon and will contact yourself to help me make a decision on choosing a $600- $800 metal detector in the future…Nice one buddy , respect from over the pond 🇺🇸🇬🇧
I have a quest X10 pro,,cost $200 will totally outperform the Garrett,,also it's waterproof to 15 ft. Has everything the Garrett don't,,,,?
Que felicidad tenerte de nuevo
thank you
I realize that we have yet to see real testing comparisons of the new VX9, but the more this new Garrett Vortex gets digested, the more of a disappointment it is turning out to be. Garrett clearly fell short of leapfrogging Nokta's and Minelab’s latest onslaught of new performance and value detectors like the Xtrerra Elite and Nokta’s Triple Score, let alone conquering models like the Nox 900, Legend, Manticore and DEUS II.
I can only imagine how much Garrett spent on that Storm media where they could have just spent that $$ on creating a real ground breaking effort, not a hybrid of old and new that appears to fall short.
My reaction of the new Vortex: >> “Disappointed"
I bought the Elite, the Manticore is next, very soon, TEAM MINELAB
I dont wish failure on any company especially on an American owned company but they need need to drop that price a little cause my Nokta double score was $349.00 with a free pair of headphones and its every bit as good!!!
Major letdown. This thing doesn't even have a vibrating handle option and you have to pay a ransom just to have wireless headphones enabled if you buy the VX5.
This is the first video that I agree 1000% with you on every point made. Well said on everything and without bashing anyone👍
Thanks!
Thanks for making this video Calabash I missed your knowledge and thank you for this.
My pleasure
I guess Calabash didn't get another Ambassador job again!
Already got a job dont need another one ...lol
Nothing like telling everyone that you have no life 😂
I appreciate your review. I quit purchasing Garrett products years ago. I was not gerting what results that I was getting with Minelab.
Thanks for sharing!
Good to see you back 🏋🏻♂️
Thanks!
I am glad to see you back, missed your reviews and insight, hope you get access to the Vortex to fill us all in.
Happy to see you back. 🤠
Hey, thanks!
Well said! So much missing from this new Garrett compared to even cheaper machines. I priced the new Nokta and ML Elite. This would cost me more for allot less features. Not even a pitch audio?! Who is this machine made for?Does not seem like its for the beach or old sites with no tone options available. Maybe made just for KG and Ringy. Everyone else will be sticking with Nokta and Minelab.
Calabash, you need to get your head right, you KNOW it is going to be the epitome of awesomeness when they release it in the "Urban Blue Camo Pattern"!!!! (I bought a D2 because of your reviews when they came out, and have NEVER regretted it, thank you Sir.)
Great to see Calabash Digger, thank you for your opinion, it’s greatly appreciated. I’m going to stick with Minelab
Thank you!
I used garrett apex for 3 years and was happy with machine but bought minelab equinox last October it's a game changer. I've looked at vortex and too many things they have got wrong. Thanks for your comment 👍
Thanks for sharing
I think it is quite telling that Garrett never seems to want to answer these questions. Why do their machines not have selectable tones? Why no iron bias? Why no auto noise cancellation? Why do their modes simply change the notch and not the processing? Just answer the questions. There may be some very good reasons that we are not aware of for all these missing features, although I doubt it. I don't want to knock Garrett. I grew up using their machines amongst many others and I have fond memories of those times but, things have moved on, a lot! and I can't help but feel that Garrett has been coasting on past glories for far too long now. I "hope" the Vortex is more than we have seen but I am not holding my breath.
Liked and subbed…heard a lot about you and your channel, hunted it up a good while back and like Houdini was gone. Glad you’re back and doing your thing!
Thanks for the sub!
Nice to see and hear from you Calabash
This detector was made for the Garett fans and big box stores.
That’s for sure, Garrett is fine with entry level detectors and color changes.
you forgot backlit buttons 👍🏻
and a search led light for the coil and the area around for those nightly adventures ✌🏻
and for the rest you are right
I do have the ace apex and it was lacking in these 2 things
so I bought the double score and the triple score is coming soon in 🙏🏻
and the ultra for my daughter is just great for what you get
in my book the new vortex isn't worth in my book to buy too
there are better machines out there and still coming in
and I'm calling it here and now let's wait and see what nokta's answer will be I'm excited 😁💪🏻🇱🇺😎🙏🏻✌🏻👍🏻 when they come out with a better detector that's the money worth and still lots of people can buy it 👍🏻🙏🏻
Thank you calabash glad to see you back💪
Thank you too
I agree 100% on all points. I did pre-order a little prematurely. I am also disappointed in the features that you would naturally assume it would have. But I probably won't cancel the order unless it takes a while to receive it. Just curious about the performance in my garden. It's a good chance I will sell it after testing.
Good to see you back talking about detectors.
Thanks!
Good to see you again. I value your opinion on MD equipment. Thank you CD! Best of luck!
Thanks, you too!
Really appreciate you coming back and putting out another great review!👍 Let the buyer beware!
Much appreciated!
Cals back Whooop yes sir 👊🏽😎❤
Great to see you Cal. You tell it like it is!
I try
@@calabashphotography1234 I think you can tell by the masses' responses... That your "try" is valued and much appreciated. Take care and hope to see you again soon.
I think this is the storm Garrett predicted. I will say it, I am sad for them.
Great video. I really do hate how bad Garrett messed this up but the truth is that they did and people need to know about it
Nokta’s lower end has better options and will probably out perform. Very disappointing. I do hope you or iffy gets ahold of one to test. I’m not very optimistic on the outcome though
Iffy said he will have one to test. Should be interesting!!
No duck call?!? 😂 glad you’re back!
Great honist review.
While I totally agree with your assessment, I will still buy one since it is the only American made option we have for a multi unit. Not to mention I like the looks of it. I waited a few days to make this comment to avoid getting bashed! Thanks Calabash!
Automatic tracking on a metal detector is a double-edged sword. True, if you're hunting an area that has vast mineralization changes, it's a great feature. Just know you may sacrifice depth as a result of this feature. I like fixed and hunt with it solely here in the minerilized VA soil. What I like most is to leave it fixed alongside the use of a shortcut button to re ground balance. The same issues can be said about sensitivity. Emf disturbances can vary constantly at sites, too. An automatic gb feature would be great. However, it's not a show stopper, in my opinion.
I would argue that what matters most to us "detectorists" is , performance, performance, performance.
Does the machine discriminate well at depth? Does it go deep? Does the machine cancel iron as well in ground, as the demo given in the live video from Garret?
The people will decide the fate of any company, can't wait for the in the field reviews soon to come.
Appreciate your critiques Calabash.
Do you think a detector can have performance , performance, performance , in most situations without all these end user adjustments?
Please explain how and why you lose with auto ground balance...I have tested the units on the Beach and have never seen this..
Hello from Italy! more than 10 years ago I discovered this fantastic world of metal detecting and I did it with my first metal detector, a Garret Ace series... years later after having tried practically all the metal detectors on the market... currently my instrument the flagship is an xp deus 2.. honestly, I was very disappointed by this new Garret Vortex.. I would have expected a new AT series.. this tool is clearly just marketing.. I'll try it.. we'll see..
Well...that was informative..to say the least. I own and use many different make machines and here's my take on what I think Garrett are/were hoping to accomplish: they call this the world's first "fully upgrade-able" metal detector. Now I am not sure what they are trying to say here but if I understand it correctly the pitch is that as you progress on your metal detecting experience and abilities, you are able to pay for increased additional upgrade features that can be programmed into each machine, thereby upgrading its performance from its existing level to the next level. How this process differs from the software updates that Nokta and Minelab already continuously offer to their clients machines free of charge I am not sure. If that is/was their intention or marketing plan then one would think that the VX9 version/model would be the flagship and should have been made/offered as the top of the line model, already possessing newer state of the art technologies and obviously incorporating all the expected features that are currently lacking and identified in this video, plus even more. That version would be at the highest price point, and then the VX5 and VX7 offering less features than the VX9, and at lower price points respectively. That way they would be satisfying the requirement to produce a unit that possesses the expected and demanded features of experienced users in an industry/hobby where technology and user required features are advancing every few months. This strategy would also offer less complicated versions to the beginners/entry level users. Interestingly enough, I still have and use my 12 year old Garrett AT Pro International, however its use is limited to one specific hunting aspect that I feel it does well at and that is finding Canadian clad.(live in Canada) In comparison to my Equinox and Legend features, performance, and technology my AT Pro is a technological dinosaur. So we will wait to see how the market responds to this machine. Cheers!
Fabulous informative and raw honest video as usual, welcome back! i do have a quick question? what's your choice on best 3 detectors to hunt in heavy EMI conditions? preferably cheaper if possible, not looking to pay a tonne of money for a EMI buster lol I currently own minelab 800, at max, and whites mx sport
equinox 700 comes to mind...I have not tried the Elite yet...I know the 900 handles it really well I think they put the same EMI mitigation in the 700...Manticore is the best I have seen but it cost a lot of money.
Is the Vortex just a waterproof Apex with an updated display?
You will have to be the judge of that!
Vortex release was a bit of a snoretex.
You're obviously just flattering them so Garrett hires you as marketing promotions director.
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I agree. Well said
Thank you!
What is going on with First Texas?
As far as I can tel NOTHING....After the p I machine release debacle...
Thanks for vid.
You bet
Detectorists 😂 Great to have you back, thanks for sharing your knowledge
You bet
Calabash… great to see you back, but very disappointing to see all the negatives about lack of features…you missed the point that Garrett will probably bring out a signature “Camo” addition which will not need all these bells and whistles that everything other manufacturer provides within their product package 🤣🤣🤣
Big disappointment for me was I thought there would be more technology breakthrough with the display like they had with the GTI series back in the day,,, nothing but numbers and cursers like the rest of the machines on the market,,
Today, I have to fully agree with You.
CHURCH -Excellent sermon Sir
Is the Vortex better than the nox 800.?
I’ll take the Vanquish 540 over the Garrett Vortex
I guess if the 9 was $400 it would be a good entry level, Like you I was looking for something really good from America and I was even big Garrett guy from the 80's and 90's ...The last ones I really liked was the Master Hunters series, Fisher too has disappointed with no new features ...Rain Jacket...are you kidding me !
I did find a lot of gold with the CZ-21, but it's out the door now too
I liked the you guys are FIRED part
Thanks!
Agree with what you said, it's just recycled tech that the other companies have with techno babble to try and dress it up. As for target ID I have both Notka and Minelab detectors and have never had an issue with either about what the ID says about what I'm about to dig in regular circumstances.
Sounds like I may need to get a Nokta when I which one I want.
Garrett’s are like toys. They work and have found me a lot of stuff but the technology is lacking.
It's unfortunately all true. I started on a Garrett. I'm a big fan of American Made but this seems like a flop. Especially after the Legend made many of these missing features affordable. Hard to believe this was their response.
I live over in England and i always get drawn into this new detector BS
The main uk Garrett dealer are making it sound like something massive is coming in the real world it's all a sale's pitch.
I have an XP Deus 1 with a 9inch coil and even though its old it hits the targets everytime and folds away to fit in a small backpack.
I have a back up detector the Vanquish 340 and even though it's a £220 basic detector it hits 99% of the test targets i put down from tiny coins to large hoard shaped objects
It’s a let down for sure. Tnx for the review.
Great content. I see you like photography too. I am a novice when it comes to photography. I recently bought a Canon EOS XSI with two lenses (18-55 mm and a 55-250mm) from a Goodwill for $35. Is that a good starter set for the price?
Sounds great to me..35..dollars
Very thorough analogy of the Vortex, the best I’ve seen. Only question I have is will there be those updates mentioned by Calvin in the future? Such as a VX11
I do not buy a detector based on what might or might not happen in the future. Thanks for watching!
Back with a vengeance!
There was a storm coming but guess it blew over with little or nothing to show for it, lol. I’m still hoping for a miracle and it’s ok.
I feel sorry for the Garrett engineers. Their hands must be so sore for sitting on them!
Too bad our top domestic metal detecting company doesn't invest the time & resources to build a better product to compete with the BIG2 ! They need to get Jase Robertson in and raise some cane!
Bring back the good old day with the original DEUS…
What makes the original Deus better than the Deus 2? And since you can still buy the Deus 1, why was it better in the "good old days?" Just genuinely curious.
Your opinion matters brother. I was just thinking of you yesterday missing your info. I checked to see if you were back. I'm so glad you're back.
I appreciate that