Geoff it is a inspiration to see your dedication to the Rover Marque! A shame about this particular circumstance, but you and Damon capture magic with those trucks on your adventures!
I rebuilt my own Series 2.25 Petrol engine, apart from the re-bore I did it all myself, it's a simple robust engine all the information to rebuild it is in the FANTASTIC GREEN BIBLE so only have me to blame if it goes wrong. Most of the issues you highlighted would not have occurred had a reasonably diligent, interested and somewhat literate person with some mechanical knowledge rebuilt your engine. As a result of several bad experiences, I now check everything and trust no one to do anything critical (apart from my Doc obviously) for me and try to do everything myself. At least this way I understand the equipment much better and am in a better place to fix it if I have to. It is not necessarily cheaper or quicker to do this but it is much more satisfying when everything works. If it doesn't work then I only have myself to blame and am more knowledgeable and experienced than I was to begin with. PS it does not take 1 month to rebuild a Land Rover Series 2.25 Petrol Engine. I would ROAST them online so others know to avoid having the same expensive and incompetent work done.
Thank you, completely agree and I’ve learnt a lot. Time will tell at how they respond. But they won’t ever be getting another cent from me. Many thanks, kind regards, Geoff
the later 2.25 and 2.5 (90/110) petrols actually received a mod later on where they did inject RTV into the crank seal voids, so there may be some method in the madness. But everything else sounds terrible, and inexcusable.
Thank you Steamwally. Really enjoy your channel and appreciate you sharing that bit of info about RTV. As for the rest, not cool. Enough said. Cheers Geoff
Geoff, that is such a shame! I have only recently been aware of your videos, love them. I have succesfully rebuilt quite a few motorbike engines never a car mind you but soon I'll be moving onto my 2a motor, I have another in peices and all I can say is, what a fantastically easy engine to take appart. As for rebuilding, well measure and double check several times, get the machining done by a small local fella like what it sounds you have found for yours and yeah the rest is really just lego and follow the manual. I'd say the first time your engine was rebuilt itd perhaps been left to a apprentice, or someone who really didnt give a toss. Thats my thoughts anyway. Im blown away at how little effort someone put into your first engine recon. They really shouldve been more aware of your social media presents & think they should certainly pay up, it may be too late but have your new fella take photos and write down measurements of previous work to take back to them.
A very measured response from a very patient fella. Bravo Mate. You will win through in the end. New brakes for my 1976 LWB pickup. It will be a big bill, but never mind. Best wishes from Wellington, NZ, where we have a loathsome new government.
nowadays its difficult to find a shop who really does a good job rebuilding an engine, especialy an old one like this., although particular this engine is quite easy. you must do your homework choosing the right place to do the job. sometimes its better to find a specialist and recommended mecanic who is willing to do the job and just give away the boring and planning of the block and the head. either way its a gamble and you have to stay on top of the project as much as possible, but not that much that the mecanic throw the box with nuts and bolts to your feed and scream "... than do it by yourself ..." than the real fun starts, like in my case. but its good for experience and hopefully victory at the end. cheers
Great Video. We were at the Adelaide 4x4 show on the Friday. Enjoyed your talk on the Engel Stage. Came over from Geelong Victoria, to see all the Content Creator's there.
Geoff, sorry to hear about people not doing good job. I cannot believe they dont know what they are doing? It is a basic engine. Yep if this time fails try to get money back and send motor to who is passionate about Land Rovers. I think there are many series specialist out there.
So true. I am in good hands now. But I will be letting the original establishment know about what went wrong. I hope know one has to go through this again. Cheers Geoff
i am by no means an expert but i believe the lt95 issue could be from the seal between the transfer and gearbox letting oil through. I believe that you can make an oil transfer/balancing thing that aleivates the issue with some barb and hose fittings between the tc and gb. edit: also could it be from a blocked breather forcing the oil from one to another due to pressure?
Siento mucho que todo esto te desilusione, es normal, espero que tengas suerte con la nueva reconstrucción y por supuesto pídele el dinero de vuelta al que hizo esa chapucería. Yo estoy reconstruyendo el mío y todo lo que pones me sirve de ayuda muchas gracias y mucha fuerza.
I feel your pain no engine rebuild should be this disastrous you have had to endure a heap of faults which were not of your fault. 2.25 engines were designed in the fifties they are not rocket science follow the manufactures specifications and Blind Freddy can assemble them and they will run. I sincerely hope they sort it and you have every right under Australian consumer law to extract compensation for an unsatisfactorily repaired engine. Check out consumer law re fit for purpose/ adequate life expectancy of repaired products. This may not be the actual heading i would consult John Cadogan regarding this particular aspect he is well versed in the subject and can lead you in the right direction. All the best Gippy
Hi Geoff, mate that same team did my 4BD1 in Pinjarra and the rear main leaked after 500ks , pulled the engine and the welsh plug at the rear of the cam had come out and was pi****g oil along with the R/main and the clutch was cactus, it was new on re-fit of engine. I also found copious amounts of red silicone every were mostly in the oil pick up mesh . On ringing them, I had let a year and 1/2 elapse before I had time to fit after rebuild so they wiped their hands of it. Any way enough griping I too had a long list and now the County is on the road again, fingers crossed. Stay safe regards Banjo from Karratha.
Sorry to hear that mate. Yeah, I don’t know if it is because good help is hard to find or they just don’t really care? Who knows. Anyway, glad yours is back on the road. Cheers Geoff
Sounds like an apprentice was let loose on your engine without guidance! If I were you, I’d just put another engine in, but I’m not sure how easy a 5mb s3 engine would be to find in WA! Good luck fella!
Hi Geoff sorry to hear this tale , i think its the work of a snotty nosed apprentice sounds like they didnt put the correct thrust washers in so every time you depress the clutch the crankshalf would move excessively who knows what vibration that would cause , as for the mainseal gaskets generally i would say the gray high temp sealant is a much better deal than using the cork T seals because they have tendency to deteriorate with age , i was advised by West coast rover 20 yrs ago to do that , which i have done to at least 2 or 3 times ( the one i drive regularly i didnt even renew the main bearings , which you should if you pull the main bearings apart) . As for the ring gap either incorect size rings or very poor quality i' m assume the engine has 'nt done many kms after the rebuild .and if they hadnt acid dipped the block they should have at least used compressed air and wire to probe the water galleys ( it does take time !) And tighning the camshalf bolt is not to hard to do .if the engine didnt do much work , it may be possible to rering and new big ends and mains,thrust washers seals and some one who is a competent mechanic to reassemble it and i do'nt think the 2.25 is that complex to work on anyway i hope you have better fortune this next time .R
Hi Reg. You are spot on and I agree with you. The ring gaps were way off, amongst other things. The sad thing is that this was the same companies attempt at rebuilding the motor and they still stuffed it up. Anyway I have at a local mechanical established now and hopefully I may have it back soon and I can put the four year tale behind me. Thank you for your comment. Kind regards, Geoff
Geoff man that sucks donkey dick, it's unfortunate but this is also why I tend to do as much as I can as possible, cause I just don't trust people these days. But you can only do what your skills allow as well. Glad it's looking on the up now but.
Wow Geoff, that does not sound good. Someone really did not seem to be taking the care they should have with rebuilding your engine. I hope you have dome luck with it from now on.
Just to add to the comments--the 2.25L is such a simple engine to rebuild compared to something modern. Some of the core plugs are fiddly to remove-the small ones just below deck height spring to mind. Yes the rocker arms bushings are not supplied to size, and need reaming after fitting and the cam bearings need to fit properly need a driver turned up. But any competent engine rebuilder should be easily able to do these. Very disappointing and I'd be really annoyed too
Thanks Nick, for that interesting insight. I didn’t know that. Yep, very disappointing, but starting to get to the finish line. I should have the motor back by the new year. Fingers crossed. Cheers Geoff
Alot of people spit on rovers and a disrespectfull to the marke. Seems like somone grumbled and did a crap rebuild. Have you pulled the motor apart yourself geoff? I think you can have good compression butnupon installation maybe an oil ring was broken? But wouldnt a spark plug be oily?
Hi Matt. The motor has been stripped and has nearly been rebuilt for the third time. Alot was wrong with it, the ring gaps were way off and the oil pump failed, timing was out by 180 degrees and the list goes on. Kind regards, Geoff
Sounds like you got a rattle can rebuild! They didn’t even boil out the block!😱 May I pick your brain? My 1966 S2A, in 4th gear at higher RPMs has a very loud wine. Overdrive only increases the noise. With the high / low lever in neutral, I ran through the gears, and no noise. Possibly output shaft bearing? Or ??
The series gearbox does have a lot of whine in 4th gear, but if its excessive-transfer case output shaft bearings or intermediate shaft bearings. Worn high range gearset in transfer case can also contribute too
Geoff it is a inspiration to see your dedication to the Rover Marque! A shame about this particular circumstance, but you and Damon capture magic with those trucks on your adventures!
I rebuilt my own Series 2.25 Petrol engine, apart from the re-bore I did it all myself, it's a simple robust engine all the information to rebuild it is in the FANTASTIC GREEN BIBLE so only have me to blame if it goes wrong. Most of the issues you highlighted would not have occurred had a reasonably diligent, interested and somewhat literate person with some mechanical knowledge rebuilt your engine. As a result of several bad experiences, I now check everything and trust no one to do anything critical (apart from my Doc obviously) for me and try to do everything myself.
At least this way I understand the equipment much better and am in a better place to fix it if I have to. It is not necessarily cheaper or quicker to do this but it is much more satisfying when everything works. If it doesn't work then I only have myself to blame and am more knowledgeable and experienced than I was to begin with. PS it does not take 1 month to rebuild a Land Rover Series 2.25 Petrol Engine. I would ROAST them online so others know to avoid having the same expensive and incompetent work done.
Thank you, completely agree and I’ve learnt a lot. Time will tell at how they respond. But they won’t ever be getting another cent from me. Many thanks, kind regards, Geoff
the later 2.25 and 2.5 (90/110) petrols actually received a mod later on where they did inject RTV into the crank seal voids, so there may be some method in the madness. But everything else sounds terrible, and inexcusable.
Thank you Steamwally. Really enjoy your channel and appreciate you sharing that bit of info about RTV. As for the rest, not cool. Enough said. Cheers Geoff
So many willing to take significant sums of money for services, so few actually doing quality work anymore.
Yep, and have the glory. Anyway a lesson learnt Duncan. How is your trip planning going? Cheers Geoff
Geoff, that is such a shame! I have only recently been aware of your videos, love them. I have succesfully rebuilt quite a few motorbike engines never a car mind you but soon I'll be moving onto my 2a motor, I have another in peices and all I can say is, what a fantastically easy engine to take appart. As for rebuilding, well measure and double check several times, get the machining done by a small local fella like what it sounds you have found for yours and yeah the rest is really just lego and follow the manual. I'd say the first time your engine was rebuilt itd perhaps been left to a apprentice, or someone who really didnt give a toss. Thats my thoughts anyway. Im blown away at how little effort someone put into your first engine recon. They really shouldve been more aware of your social media presents & think they should certainly pay up, it may be too late but have your new fella take photos and write down measurements of previous work to take back to them.
A very measured response from a very patient fella. Bravo Mate. You will win through in the end. New brakes for my 1976 LWB pickup. It will be a big bill, but never mind. Best wishes from Wellington, NZ, where we have a loathsome new government.
Thank you mate. Yes, success is around the corner. Enjoy the new brakes. Cheers Geoff
Greeting from Canada! Great vids Geoff 👍👍👍
Cheers mate and thanks for watching. Kind regards, Geoff
nowadays its difficult to find a shop who really does a good job rebuilding an engine, especialy an old one like this., although particular this engine is quite easy. you must do your homework choosing the right place to do the job. sometimes its better to find a specialist and recommended mecanic who is willing to do the job and just give away the boring and planning of the block and the head.
either way its a gamble and you have to stay on top of the project as much as possible, but not that much that the mecanic throw the box with nuts and bolts to your feed and scream "... than do it by yourself ..." than the real fun starts, like in my case.
but its good for experience and hopefully victory at the end.
cheers
Great Video. We were at the Adelaide 4x4 show on the Friday. Enjoyed your talk on the Engel Stage. Came over from Geelong Victoria, to see all the Content Creator's there.
Fantastic. Well thank you for coming over a listing to the presentation. I hope your had good trip. Cheers, Geoff
Geoff, sorry to hear about people not doing good job. I cannot believe they dont know what they are doing? It is a basic engine. Yep if this time fails try to get money back and send motor to who is passionate about Land Rovers. I think there are many series specialist out there.
So true. I am in good hands now. But I will be letting the original establishment know about what went wrong. I hope know one has to go through this again. Cheers Geoff
i am by no means an expert but i believe the lt95 issue could be from the seal between the transfer and gearbox letting oil through. I believe that you can make an oil transfer/balancing thing that aleivates the issue with some barb and hose fittings between the tc and gb.
edit: also could it be from a blocked breather forcing the oil from one to another due to pressure?
Spot on and thank you. I have done both. Though I will get it fixed properly. Cheers Geoff
I rebuilt a 2.25 motor quite some years back ,great motor the only issue i had was the dizzy but a new one fixed it. Hope you get it sorted.
Thanks mate, and good on you for rebuilding it yourself. Cheers Geoff
Siento mucho que todo esto te desilusione, es normal, espero que tengas suerte con la nueva reconstrucción y por supuesto pídele el dinero de vuelta al que hizo esa chapucería. Yo estoy reconstruyendo el mío y todo lo que pones me sirve de ayuda muchas gracias y mucha fuerza.
That's disappointing mate. Glad it looks like your getting to the bottom of it finally though.
I feel your pain no engine rebuild should be this disastrous you have had to endure a heap of faults which were not of your fault.
2.25 engines were designed in the fifties they are not rocket science follow the manufactures specifications and Blind Freddy can assemble them and they will run.
I sincerely hope they sort it and you have every right under Australian consumer law to extract compensation for an unsatisfactorily repaired engine. Check out consumer law re fit for purpose/ adequate life expectancy of repaired products. This may not be the actual heading i would consult John Cadogan regarding this particular aspect he is well versed in the subject and can lead you in the right direction.
All the best Gippy
Cheers Gippy, will do. Many thanks, Kind regards, Geoff
Hi Geoff, mate that same team did my 4BD1 in Pinjarra and the rear main leaked after 500ks , pulled the engine and the welsh plug at the rear of the cam had come out and was pi****g oil along with the R/main and the clutch was cactus, it was new on re-fit of engine. I also found copious amounts of red silicone every were mostly in the oil pick up mesh .
On ringing them, I had let a year and 1/2 elapse before I had time to fit after rebuild so they wiped their hands of it.
Any way enough griping I too had a long list and now the County is on the road again, fingers crossed. Stay safe regards Banjo from Karratha.
Sorry to hear that mate. Yeah, I don’t know if it is because good help is hard to find or they just don’t really care? Who knows. Anyway, glad yours is back on the road. Cheers Geoff
Sounds like an apprentice was let loose on your engine without guidance! If I were you, I’d just put another engine in, but I’m not sure how easy a 5mb s3 engine would be to find in WA! Good luck fella!
Wouldn’t say no to a 5mb. Not a lot of these motors getting around. I should have the motor back by the new year. Cheers Geoff
Hi Geoff sorry to hear this tale , i think its the work of a snotty nosed apprentice sounds like they didnt put the correct thrust washers in so every time you depress the clutch the crankshalf would move excessively who knows what vibration that would cause , as for the mainseal gaskets generally i would say the gray high temp sealant is a much better deal than using the cork T seals because they have tendency to deteriorate with age , i was advised by West coast rover 20 yrs ago to do that , which i have done to at least 2 or 3 times ( the one i drive regularly i didnt even renew the main bearings , which you should if you pull the main bearings apart) . As for the ring gap either incorect size rings or very poor quality i' m assume the engine has 'nt done many kms after the rebuild .and if they hadnt acid dipped the block they should have at least used compressed air and wire to probe the water galleys ( it does take time !) And tighning the camshalf bolt is not to hard to do .if the engine didnt do much work , it may be possible to rering and new big ends and mains,thrust washers seals and some one who is a competent mechanic to reassemble it and i do'nt think the 2.25 is that complex to work on anyway i hope you have better fortune this next time .R
Hi Reg. You are spot on and I agree with you. The ring gaps were way off, amongst other things. The sad thing is that this was the same companies attempt at rebuilding the motor and they still stuffed it up. Anyway I have at a local mechanical established now and hopefully I may have it back soon and I can put the four year tale behind me. Thank you for your comment. Kind regards, Geoff
Geoff man that sucks donkey dick, it's unfortunate but this is also why I tend to do as much as I can as possible, cause I just don't trust people these days.
But you can only do what your skills allow as well.
Glad it's looking on the up now but.
Well said and yes I agree. Sometimes we get a bit time poor and need a hand, and hence the shit I am in. Never again. Kind regards, Geoff
Have you sort financial recompense from the engineering company who did this work/re-build (in a loose term)?
No yet. I am hoping reason will work first up and if not, I’ll look at legal action. Kind regards, Geoff
Wow Geoff, that does not sound good. Someone really did not seem to be taking the care they should have with rebuilding your engine. I hope you have dome luck with it from now on.
Thanks Jamie. Yeah they certainly threw it together in a rush. Cheers Geoff
Just to add to the comments--the 2.25L is such a simple engine to rebuild compared to something modern. Some of the core plugs are fiddly to remove-the small ones just below deck height spring to mind. Yes the rocker arms bushings are not supplied to size, and need reaming after fitting and the cam bearings need to fit properly need a driver turned up. But any competent engine rebuilder should be easily able to do these. Very disappointing and I'd be really annoyed too
Thanks Nick, for that interesting insight. I didn’t know that.
Yep, very disappointing, but starting to get to the finish line. I should have the motor back by the new year. Fingers crossed. Cheers Geoff
Alot of people spit on rovers and a disrespectfull to the marke. Seems like somone grumbled and did a crap rebuild. Have you pulled the motor apart yourself geoff? I think you can have good compression butnupon installation maybe an oil ring was broken? But wouldnt a spark plug be oily?
Hi Matt. The motor has been stripped and has nearly been rebuilt for the third time. Alot was wrong with it, the ring gaps were way off and the oil pump failed, timing was out by 180 degrees and the list goes on. Kind regards, Geoff
If you cannot rebuild a bog standard Land Rover engine you should become a cashier at Aldi's.
Very true. I will pass the memo on. Well said. Cheers Geoff
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Sounds like you got a rattle can rebuild! They didn’t even boil out the block!😱
May I pick your brain?
My 1966 S2A, in 4th gear at higher RPMs has a very loud wine. Overdrive only increases the noise. With the high / low lever in neutral, I ran through the gears, and no noise.
Possibly output shaft bearing?
Or ??
The series gearbox does have a lot of whine in 4th gear, but if its excessive-transfer case output shaft bearings or intermediate shaft bearings. Worn high range gearset in transfer case can also contribute too
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I would agree with Nick. Cheers Nick for helping out, great stuff. Cheers Geoff
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