The CIS had more numbers. By the end of the clone wars the droid army was numbered in the quintillions which was more than any population of sentient beings in the galaxy.
@@Pocoentertainmentstudioyeah your right "for the seperatist alliance!" Sounds like it's a final battle and "for the empire!" Sounds a battle cry at the start of the battle before charging at the enemy
They were moraly corect so fuck it i am inn, i like the estetick of the empire and the republic beter but the CIS was moraly corect with leaving the republic just remove duku and i wuld consider it. Edit: forgot to mention, for the sepratist aliance
Super weapons should go to CIS, because it was them, who created the plan for death star. Not to mention they have more plans to create superweapons, but couldn't follow through it, cause Palpatine held them back.
@@tutu28clone Don't forget that old republic era artifact they dug out in legends, *Dark Reaperor Force Harvester* or whatever they call it. Some statements say it was just as deadly as death star
@@anshunath3290The empire axtually weilds weapons greater than the Death Star if you read the comics. Notice how when a Star Wars faction is put up agains the imperium the only one most peole agree would have a fighting chance against that horrid theocracy is the empire
Absolute cap, by the end of the clone wars, droid numbers were estimated in the quintillions, which is more than the empire had in civilian (CIVILIAN) members. Same for any navy, ground or whatever vehicles, the CIS just had numbers you couldn't defeat. And with no exaggerating, if the CIS didn't have sith leadership with a bigger plan, it would literally have been the greatest, most morally correct and most independent army in the entire history of the star wars galaxy. Palpatine actually had to step in several times because the cis would've just crushed the republic with their new troops, numbers or tactics, which is the only reason why in everyone's eyes "they lost". Otherwise they wouldn't have had any problem, and neither would they have had with the empire.
Makes you wonder why Palpatine just didn't make sure the CIS would win so they could hunt down and destroy the jedi, then reveal himself to be the mastermind behind it all after the jedi were dead
@@stevenwright1829 he had control over the clones as well. And he didn’t want to be seen as the leader of the CIS because it would give him a bad political image and people would not vote for him
i think this man forgot humans were better then droids so numbers doesn't mean everything and the empire has the inquisitors special forces and way better tech and more armored viechels ect
The empire holds a special place in my heart but the droids are so iconic and memorable and I love them both equally. Also the droids had MUCH more numbers than the empire
The Confederacy of Independent Systems (CIS) had a unique advantage in battle due to their use of droid armies. These droids were programmed to follow orders without question, making them ideal for executing complex tactics quickly and efficiently. On the other hand, the Galactic Empire relied heavily on human soldiers, who were less maneuverable and could be swayed by emotions like fear and doubt. In addition, the CIS utilized a variety of different droids for different purposes, ranging from small, agile battle droids to massive, heavily armed droidekas. This allowed them to adapt to different battle situations and overcome tactics used by their opponents. The Rebel Alliance, which also relied heavily on guerrilla tactics, would have found it difficult to predict the CIS's tactics and react accordingly. Furthermore, the CIS's ships were designed for more tactical maneuvering, rather than brute strength. The Providence-class cruisers, for example, were particularly effective at flanking maneuvers and surprise attacks. The Imperial navy, on the other hand, relied on larger, more heavily armed vessels, which meant they were less capable of quick, tactical maneuvers. One example of the CIS's effectiveness in battle is the Battle of Ryloth, which was detailed in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. In this battle, a small CIS fleet successfully outmaneuvered a much larger Republic fleet by using unpredictable tactics and overwhelming firepower. Overall, the CIS's use of droids and tactical flexibility gave them an advantage over both the Republic and the Rebel Alliance. While the Galactic Empire had access to larger, more powerful warships, they lacked the CIS's ability to quickly adapt to changing circumstances on the battlefield. So in my opinion the C.I.S would have a a closer fight.
The CIS have nigh infinite numbers as troops can be massed produced It is true the Empire has large numbers too The Empire also have superior generals as well as Admirals
agreed. although the sheer amount of Droid starfighters might pose some difficulty in space superiority, the Empire is just built to outgun anything they come across
The thing is that TIE fighter tactics are the exact same toward the CIS starships, swarm tactics with low firepower. Tie fighters in terms of weapons are near identical to vulture droids, except one has smarter brains and larger amounts of ships, I wonder who’s gonna win? The copy cat or the one who did it better
Yah, this. Empire has a few gems... Thrawn, Veers, etc. but many of their officers are notoriously stupid, promoted on a political basis rather than on merit and despised by their troops. Meanwhile, the CIS builds supercomputer tactical droids 🤣
Military police, and they should be around special ops level, even tho in a lot of the shows and movies they are shown as standard military forces, I think andor and rogue one made them justice
It would bé incrédible if the separatist Reborn during the empire era. They would be a very powerful ennemy for the empire. It's so complicated to say who's gonna win. Personally, the fact that the CIS can produce more and more soldier is a heavy advantage compare to the empire. Long life to the CIS
The CIS could be revived provided that technically and politically they were at the level of the end of the clone wars, because in non-canon there was a separatist uprising and of course it was suppressed, but it was not as large-scale as during the clone wars. Even if we take the beginning of the clone wars with all its living creatures: Dooku, Grievous, the Separatist Council, the dark successors of Dooku, Durge, Ventress, who is still on the side of the CIS, then their chances of victory would be enormous, and without all the former separatist leaders, then there will definitely be no victory
Remember that the CIS created a super battle droid made of materiald that deflected light sabers, they would have won the war, then palpatine decided to leak the base and then the factory got destroyed just to let his plans work
This would probably have been the closest fight if it had actually happened, the empire has the advantage in firepower and battleships, but the separatists have larger numbers especially in the commando droids and tri fighters. Also i have no doubt the inquisitors would get destroyed by grievous and ventress, but vader would clean house. I’m gonna say empire, but very very close
Thing is vader and inquisitors cant be everywhere; the sheer numbers of droids and general effectiveness of CIS tactical droids as commanders would destroy everywhere else and eventually the CIS would control most galactic territory so end up as the winners
Cis should won the numbers. Aircraft wise, it would be tough to judge that. Cis had the tri fighter that would give the Empire hell, plus the tactics used by the Cis with its aircraft would be troublesome for the empire. So the Cis would be at 7 in my opinion. Plus the Cis ships would probably outnumber the empire navy in certain battles. Another thing, droids can be program to fight and see action same day, empire have to train troopers in a few months or more.
Being outnumbered wouldn’t matter, Imperial ships were more advanced and simply better than CIS ships, they were larger and had better guns, the CIS navy would go down without a fight.
Want to know something the empire had the Death Star built but in Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the clones there was a holoprojector of the Death Star when the clones attacked and if the separatists won they were gonna build the Death Star
Cis gets numbers and starfighters , there are several videos explaining how good vulture and tri_fighter droids were , and it was stated that by the end of the clone wars , there was more droids than any organic army !
The numbers are wrong, the CIS had Droid factories on a bunch of planets and each factory was able to produce millions of droids each per hour, mean while the Empire was (I'm pretty sure) a voluntary only type of service for there military
I would give the super weapon point to the CIS considering they built the malevolence, and also designed the original plan for the Death Star before imperial architects added more stuff onto it and made it redundant because of stardust
@@GeneralGrievous_CIScanon = 180 million whilst in legends it’s in the quintillion It’s also important to note 60% of the droid army was never used and they were meant to lose the clone wars so the empire could take over.
Bro lost me at numbers, not only that but the separatists droid fighters were considered the best especially the tri stinger thingy, with no pilots being able to counter them and were even requested by the empire after the clone wars
Better ships go to CIS but let's not forget that separatist in rots are in their weakest. Anh empire on the other hand is likely in their prime, although I think CIS would still win extreme diff due to fact geonosian leaders were still alive before mustafar massacare so they know literraly everything about death star, nice edit tho.
@@MOFFEdits also in prime CIS had Quintilions of Battle droids and millions of Munificents while Empire had only few billions of storm troopers and 25 thousands of empire star destroyers. But as I said before rots cis is in their one of the weakest states.
If I don't think it would be an incredible battle but the reality is that the CIS outnumbers the empire basically with trillions of droids xd Let's keep in mind that at the end of the war the droids outnumbered the Republic 100 to 1 even at the start of the war the CIS outnumbered the clone army 10 to 1
@@rtixboi4193 The droids only used 40% of their army. Also you are forgetting the organic soldiers such as the Umbarrans, the Quarren, and the Geonosians. Those were some absolutely MASSIVE armies along side the droids.
@@rtixboi4193 they had 10x that deployed and 100x that in storage and millions get produced an hour. And the empire definitely does not have 180 million soldiers
I have just recently watched this video and I don't agree with this and I do have some proof. 1. Number, CIS Wins: Now I did some research and the only thing I could find was the Empire had almost around 300 million troops plus pilots and officers that could probably make a billion But The Cis had almost a trillion troops with different variants. Plus it had some living beings so that can also be around a couple million. We also have to factor that there were just so many different types of vehicles in CIS then the Empire. 2. Trooper Variety, CIS Wins: Now this one you are correct the CIS had so many different variants of Droids that pretty much every Droid was made for every single situation. The Empire did have a variance of different troops but not by much. 3. Battle Exp, CIS Wins: you're also correct on this one and CIS had way more experience than the Empire. 4. Navy, CIS Wins: once again you're also correct on this one the CIS had way more different types of ships for every situation. Yes the Empire had better ships and some areas but CIS had so many different variants of different ships that they swarm the empire. 5. Better Warship, Empire Wins: now once again this is going to be a hard one because the Empire does have better ships but there are more vulnerable but the CIS does have one ship that could pretty much destroy any imperial ship and that is a Malevolence. The Malevolence can just shoot a EMP blast at any ship and all the power will cut off. Making any imperial ship defenseless and the CIS can just wipe them out easily. The only problem was was that there were only like a couple Malevolence ever made so the Empire will have a better chance. 6. Military Leaders, TIE: Now to be honest the CIS in my opinion has the better leadership in the military and most of the time in the Empire. The leadership are just bad. The only reason why this is tie because the empire's best leader is admiral thrawn. And he is like the only imperial Commander that can actually get the job done but other than that the CIS would probably have a better chance. So give this a Tie. 7. Starfighters, CIS Wins: To be honest CIS wins in a landslide. The CIS in my opinion has the best starfighters and the Vulture Droid vs Tie Fighter. This is an easy win for the Vulture Droid. Yes there was one TIE fighter variant that was pretty much unstoppable but the Droid fighters just had so much that they would just swarm the Empire. 8. Better Tactics, CIS Wins: To be honest the CIS had way better tactics than the Empire and I don't think I have to say more. 9. Better Generals, TIE: The only reason why this is a tie is because the Empire had Admiral Thrawn but other than that the CIS had way better generals than anybody In The Empire. The Empire just had just too much ego and CIS we're more defensive with their tactics. So I would generally say the CIS would have won for the generals. 10. Better Admiral, Empire Wins: Once again Admiral Thrawn is just too good but I do think Admiral Trench would be a challenge for Admiral Thrawn. 11. Infantry, CIS Wins: Now I'm going to be honest I'm not saying you have done your research but the CIS just had way better infantry and they had different variants. Also most of the empire's infantry were just bad. Yes or some infantry that was pretty good but other than that the CIS are just better with their infantry. 12. Special Forces, CIS Wins: Now I do know that the Empire has probably better Special Forces but the CIS has different droids for their special forces that they can do different tasks. So I do believe the CIS would have won in the special Forces Calgary. 13. More Force Users, Empire Wins: This is correct empire does have more Force Users. 14. Leader, Tie: The only reason why this is a tie is because The Empire and The CIS are both control by palpatine so this is why it's tie. 15. Enforcers, Empire Wins: Yeah Darth Vader is a great Enforcer but I do think General Grievous can hold on his own if he plays smart. 16. Super Weapons, Tie: Now I know what you're thinking the Death Star should probably easily destroy any CIS ship but I think that's not true. Now once again the CIS does have the Malevolence and If the Malevolence shoots it's EMP blast it will just turn off all power making the Death Star vulnerable to any attacks. This is why this is a Tie. Also I forgot to mention that the CIS made the Death Stars plans. So this means the CIS will know the Death Stars weakness So the score should be CIS 12 and The Empire 8: Winner Confederacy of independent systems: MID-HIGH DIFF.
BX super battle droids are fucking scarey imagine a B2 super battle droid now imagine that shit with a jetpack and with dual missle batterys on each shoulder ou cant tell me that aint scaery any empire soldier would shit their pants seeing that
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Guys stop commenting this is obviously wrong and he did it on purpose so you all correct him in the comments and the algorithm pushes him because of user interactions.
Palpatine made sure to destroy the droids for human sovereignty in the galaxy with several droids and a numerous enemy The Emperor would be challenged and his rule would not last as master yoda foresaw the creation of the alliance.
The empire had far superiour ships than the CIS in terms of both starfighters and quality of their navy altho the cis navy would still win due to numbers
In a genuine war that Palpatine doesn't control the CIS, the Separatist have much better warships, easier to make and have superweapons that could wreck the Empire fleet. Their fighters are much better being non-organic, capable of tighter manoeuvres and being more heavily armed. The empire has very few competent commanders apart from Thrawn and Yularen (that the latter isn't a Navy officer anymore). The empire relies on big bad machines like the walkers, all of which are large while the Separatists have a vehicle for every situation. The only situation where the empire is better is their frontline units, however, the B1s are at a higher number and are supported by other extremely lethal droids that the Empire isn't capable of dealing with...
What an edit but numbers go to cis because there were quintillions of them by the end of clone wars and super weapons goes to cis since they made the Death Star and had other weapons but palpatine didn’t let them use them
As soon as you gave numbers to the empire I was like 🫤 and immediately came to the comments Not to mention palpatine forced the droid army to keep 60% of it’s military in reserve. Throughout the war droids were only fighting at 40% strength
The empire would get steamrolled bro. CIS has trillions of droids, massive fleet and generals like grievous and tactical droids compared to the empires generally ineffective commanders and inexperience.
The CIS had less troop variation with 4 infantry variants vs the 10+ empire variants, the empire had more variants in all its forces excluding navy, and the empires navy was overall more powerful, with an ISD having the same power output as a cis battleship
Droids had more Quantity, but the Empire has more Quality. Not only that but also, the Empire has a lot more numbers than the Republic with better technology and training.
@@massielhernandez241the imperial stormtroopers are nowhere better than the republic clone troopers the clones were trained when they are young while are just regular people trained when they are an adult expect technology and weapons
Imagine if The Galatic Empire Has Nine hundred Quintillion Victory 2 Star Destroyers, Nine hundred Quintillion Fanon Victory 3 Star Destroyers, Nine hundred Quintillion Imperial 2 Star Destroyers and Fanon Imperial 3 Star Destroyers....... The C.I.S. Would be Doomed.
the cis leader was Dooku (yes Dooku was a pawn of Palpatine but Palpatine was not the official leader of the cis so he is comparing Dooku and Palpatine)
@@Lord_Imperion55 That’s like saying that if terrorists take over a country, they aren't the leaders, or if a crime syndicate had full control over a leader, they aren't basically leading country
@@thatguy1132 ok well look at it this way Is emperor palpatine Governor of the otter rim? No that’s Tarkin but palpatine controls Tarkin thus he controls the otter rim so yes palpatine controls the Cis but he is not the “leader” of it
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The CIS had more numbers. By the end of the clone wars the droid army was numbered in the quintillions which was more than any population of sentient beings in the galaxy.
yeah most of the points here are cap.
the cis would have oneshotted the republic if it were not for palpatine.
@@StarWarsNegsVerses FGE pretty much solos CIS though
@@MiiaoTheFC ehhhhhhhhhhhhh
@@StarWarsNegsVerses huh?
@@MiiaoTheFC it would be tough.
"FOR THE SEPERATIST ALLIANCE" VS "FOR THE EMPIRE"
One sounds like a heroic last stand and the other a Meir battle cry
@@Pocoentertainmentstudioyeah your right "for the seperatist alliance!" Sounds like it's a final battle and "for the empire!" Sounds a battle cry at the start of the battle before charging at the enemy
Actually the term "Seperatist" is kind of a pejorative term...in my thoughts their battle cry would be "For independence"
FOR THE EMPIRE>>>>>>>>>>>
glory to the empire
Lmao for leaders bro really said “though it’s a close one, I think Palpatine beats Palpatine in this one.”
I mean yeah. I mean he might have included vader?
@@brandyjohnson9673 well empire wins simply because palpatine was deliberately sabotaging the cis the whole time lol
@@aJamBiscuit i mean it doesn't really change the fact both of their leaders were the same person
@@aJamBiscuit That makes no sense timeline wise. Army wise the CIS droids were superior.
Bro "FOR THE SEPARATIST ALLIANCE" hits hard💀
For the Separatist Alliance 🫡. Who's with me
For the Separatist Alliance!
Me!
They were moraly corect so fuck it i am inn, i like the estetick of the empire and the republic beter but the CIS was moraly corect with leaving the republic just remove duku and i wuld consider it.
Edit: forgot to mention, for the sepratist aliance
Aye!!! 👋
Let's go baby! Roger roger!
"FOR THE SEPARTIST ALLIENCE!" Roger, roger
For the Empire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@@Lord_Imperion55 nuh uh
@@Lord_Imperion55 🤓
@@CIanker Roger Roger
for the separatist alliance 🫡
ɪᴛ'ꜱ ᴛʀᴇᴀꜱᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇɴ...
For the Separatist Alliance 🫡
For the Separatist Alliance!
for the empire
@@MOFFEditssidious:*spins toward windu*
Super weapons should go to CIS, because it was them, who created the plan for death star. Not to mention they have more plans to create superweapons, but couldn't follow through it, cause Palpatine held them back.
and CIS supertank, B3 battle droids, Blue Shadow virus, clone virus, Mega Ion cannon, Defoliator, Hydroid Medusa
@@tutu28clone Don't forget that old republic era artifact they dug out in legends, *Dark Reaperor Force Harvester* or whatever they call it.
Some statements say it was just as deadly as death star
@@anshunath3290 Yeah
Also malevolent could take down or deal devastating damage to a venator with 1 shot.
@@anshunath3290The empire axtually weilds weapons greater than the Death Star if you read the comics.
Notice how when a Star Wars faction is put up agains the imperium the only one most peole agree would have a fighting chance against that horrid theocracy is the empire
"10000 systems rely on us!!"
*LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!*
" FOR THE SEPERATIST ALLIANCE " Hit differant fr.
Absolute cap, by the end of the clone wars, droid numbers were estimated in the quintillions, which is more than the empire had in civilian (CIVILIAN) members.
Same for any navy, ground or whatever vehicles, the CIS just had numbers you couldn't defeat.
And with no exaggerating, if the CIS didn't have sith leadership with a bigger plan, it would literally have been the greatest, most morally correct and most independent army in the entire history of the star wars galaxy.
Palpatine actually had to step in several times because the cis would've just crushed the republic with their new troops, numbers or tactics, which is the only reason why in everyone's eyes "they lost".
Otherwise they wouldn't have had any problem, and neither would they have had with the empire.
Exactly
Makes you wonder why Palpatine just didn't make sure the CIS would win so they could hunt down and destroy the jedi, then reveal himself to be the mastermind behind it all after the jedi were dead
@@stevenwright1829 he had control over the clones as well. And he didn’t want to be seen as the leader of the CIS because it would give him a bad political image and people would not vote for him
i think this man forgot humans were better then droids so numbers doesn't mean everything and the empire has the inquisitors special forces and way better tech and more armored viechels ect
@@Lord_Imperion55 no they weren't, droids could've had literal aimbot if sidious didn't interfere
Numbers goes to CIS
The empire holds a special place in my heart but the droids are so iconic and memorable and I love them both equally. Also the droids had MUCH more numbers than the empire
The Confederacy of Independent Systems (CIS) had a unique advantage in battle due to their use of droid armies. These droids were programmed to follow orders without question, making them ideal for executing complex tactics quickly and efficiently. On the other hand, the Galactic Empire relied heavily on human soldiers, who were less maneuverable and could be swayed by emotions like fear and doubt.
In addition, the CIS utilized a variety of different droids for different purposes, ranging from small, agile battle droids to massive, heavily armed droidekas. This allowed them to adapt to different battle situations and overcome tactics used by their opponents. The Rebel Alliance, which also relied heavily on guerrilla tactics, would have found it difficult to predict the CIS's tactics and react accordingly.
Furthermore, the CIS's ships were designed for more tactical maneuvering, rather than brute strength. The Providence-class cruisers, for example, were particularly effective at flanking maneuvers and surprise attacks. The Imperial navy, on the other hand, relied on larger, more heavily armed vessels, which meant they were less capable of quick, tactical maneuvers.
One example of the CIS's effectiveness in battle is the Battle of Ryloth, which was detailed in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. In this battle, a small CIS fleet successfully outmaneuvered a much larger Republic fleet by using unpredictable tactics and overwhelming firepower.
Overall, the CIS's use of droids and tactical flexibility gave them an advantage over both the Republic and the Rebel Alliance. While the Galactic Empire had access to larger, more powerful warships, they lacked the CIS's ability to quickly adapt to changing circumstances on the battlefield.
So in my opinion the C.I.S would have a a closer fight.
U used ai for sure
Good point
@@ethan7253 I don't know why I even did this lol ☠️ thanks
Chatgpt is strong in this one😂
I never thought adding Star Wars Battlefront 2 Quotes would make this such an orgasmic asmr.
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Fr bro
I mean its like 60-40 odds for me
he is right tho sooooo
The CIS have nigh infinite numbers as troops can be massed produced
It is true the Empire has large numbers too
The Empire also have superior generals as well as Admirals
agreed. although the sheer amount of Droid starfighters might pose some difficulty in space superiority, the Empire is just built to outgun anything they come across
Absolutely 💯%. The Galactic Empire is very powerful but droid fighters are extremely dangerous. The empire still has superior firepower.
tri-fighters would demolish anything that isn't a TIE-defender, that's how dangerous they are
If CIS weren't being manipulated by Darth sidious the CIS will have much more deadly potential to create more deadly droids to beat the republic
The thing is that TIE fighter tactics are the exact same toward the CIS starships, swarm tactics with low firepower. Tie fighters in terms of weapons are near identical to vulture droids, except one has smarter brains and larger amounts of ships, I wonder who’s gonna win? The copy cat or the one who did it better
Not to mention that while cis starfighters had missiles the empire was only equipped with a single set of blasters on the tie fighter.
Numbers to the empire -_- the entire Droid army was about 10x bigger then the entire galaxy
180 million is not bigger than the entire galaxy
@@rtixboi4193They had 3 quintillion at the end i think
@@brandyjohnson9673 Also remember that the droid army only used 40% of its forces. You are correct.
@@rtixboi4193It was in the quintillions
It was not in the quintillions that’s propaganda
Military leaders, generals and admirals is all debatable, especially if we are talking overall and not just who has the single best person.
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Grievous: 🗿one of my olds soldiers, trained by me, literraly fight with kalee aganisth empire 10 years
@@Lag_EO Wut?
Yah, this. Empire has a few gems... Thrawn, Veers, etc. but many of their officers are notoriously stupid, promoted on a political basis rather than on merit and despised by their troops. Meanwhile, the CIS builds supercomputer tactical droids 🤣
@@GeneralGrievousCIS Yes!
Yeah but droids would be easier to replace
Fun fact : Stormtroopers weren't actually soldiers they were more of police officers.
Military police, and they should be around special ops level, even tho in a lot of the shows and movies they are shown as standard military forces, I think andor and rogue one made them justice
"FOR THE SEPARATIST ALLIANCE!"
Bro dropped the hardest Star Wars 1v1 edit and thought we wouldn't notice 🥶
It would bé incrédible if the separatist Reborn during the empire era. They would be a very powerful ennemy for the empire. It's so complicated to say who's gonna win. Personally, the fact that the CIS can produce more and more soldier is a heavy advantage compare to the empire. Long life to the CIS
The CIS could be revived provided that technically and politically they were at the level of the end of the clone wars, because in non-canon there was a separatist uprising and of course it was suppressed, but it was not as large-scale as during the clone wars. Even if we take the beginning of the clone wars with all its living creatures: Dooku, Grievous, the Separatist Council, the dark successors of Dooku, Durge, Ventress, who is still on the side of the CIS, then their chances of victory would be enormous, and without all the former separatist leaders, then there will definitely be no victory
Bro "FOR THE SEPERATIST ALLIANCE" hit a bit hard but the empire "WE ARE UNDER ATTACK THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!" Hits hard for me and the "FOR THE EMPIRE"
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Remember that the CIS created a super battle droid made of materiald that deflected light sabers, they would have won the war, then palpatine decided to leak the base and then the factory got destroyed just to let his plans work
Numbers go to the separatist
The death star was originally a separatist design and was already under construction
This would probably have been the closest fight if it had actually happened, the empire has the advantage in firepower and battleships, but the separatists have larger numbers especially in the commando droids and tri fighters. Also i have no doubt the inquisitors would get destroyed by grievous and ventress, but vader would clean house. I’m gonna say empire, but very very close
Thing is vader and inquisitors cant be everywhere; the sheer numbers of droids and general effectiveness of CIS tactical droids as commanders would destroy everywhere else and eventually the CIS would control most galactic territory so end up as the winners
Cis should won the numbers. Aircraft wise, it would be tough to judge that. Cis had the tri fighter that would give the Empire hell, plus the tactics used by the Cis with its aircraft would be troublesome for the empire. So the Cis would be at 7 in my opinion. Plus the Cis ships would probably outnumber the empire navy in certain battles. Another thing, droids can be program to fight and see action same day, empire have to train troopers in a few months or more.
^separatist propaganda^
Being outnumbered wouldn’t matter, Imperial ships were more advanced and simply better than CIS ships, they were larger and had better guns, the CIS navy would go down without a fight.
@@rtixboi4193 Nope, tri fighters vs ties? Very obvious winner
Want to know something the empire had the Death Star built but in Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the clones there was a holoprojector of the Death Star when the clones attacked and if the separatists won they were gonna build the Death Star
Cis gets numbers and starfighters , there are several videos explaining how good vulture and tri_fighter droids were , and it was stated that by the end of the clone wars , there was more droids than any organic army !
They were good, but less advanced that Imperial ships. By GCW standards, they would be very outdated.
The numbers are wrong, the CIS had Droid factories on a bunch of planets and each factory was able to produce millions of droids each per hour, mean while the Empire was (I'm pretty sure) a voluntary only type of service for there military
So how come after three years of fighting, they only had a hundred million droids?
@@rtixboi4193 that was the plan, the geonosians could have built many more factories
I would give the super weapon point to the CIS considering they built the malevolence, and also designed the original plan for the Death Star before imperial architects added more stuff onto it and made it redundant because of stardust
I dont think theres a Canon number of how many droids CIS had
by the end of the clone wars there were quintillions of battle droids
@@pancake2592 is it canon?
@@GeneralGrievous_CIScanon = 180 million whilst in legends it’s in the quintillion
It’s also important to note 60% of the droid army was never used and they were meant to lose the clone wars so the empire could take over.
@@Bosnia_BBRPI’m pretty sure in legends, the quintillions were separatist propaganda
@@rtixboi4193 Where is the information source
Bro lost me at numbers, not only that but the separatists droid fighters were considered the best especially the tri stinger thingy, with no pilots being able to counter them and were even requested by the empire after the clone wars
I just enjoyed the music
Better ships go to CIS but let's not forget that separatist in rots are in their weakest. Anh empire on the other hand is likely in their prime, although I think CIS would still win extreme diff due to fact geonosian leaders were still alive before mustafar massacare so they know literraly everything about death star, nice edit tho.
I didn't even think about the Geonosians already knowing the Death Star schematics. 🤣
@@MOFFEdits also in prime CIS had Quintilions of Battle droids and millions of Munificents while Empire had only few billions of storm troopers and 25 thousands of empire star destroyers. But as I said before rots cis is in their one of the weakest states.
@PiP S. Ehhh quintillion a bit much but that's legend for you
I rather say they had trillions upon trillions of droids
@@pips.5701In canon, by RoTS, they had around 100 million
@@rtixboi4193 eh no
The CIS had billions upon billions of droids I thought in reserve.
Soviet uninon vs Nazi but reverse
the cis are the Soviots?
Bro such a good edit just love it
If the seperatist weren’t limited and can use everything they had they could give the empire a run for it’s money
Legit fire
The Government Broke before our Army's Did (this goes for both)
Long live the galactic empire.
Long live the empire!!
LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERACY OF INDEPENDENCE!
FOR THE EMPIRE!
LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERACY OF INDIPENDENT SYSTEMS!
I love the battlefront II (2005) lines in the background
A fine addition to my collection
Both factions go hard af
Grievouses orginization and intelligense and stategies and tactics is one of the main reasons of hope for the cis
If I don't think it would be an incredible battle but the reality is that the CIS outnumbers the empire basically with trillions of droids xd
Let's keep in mind that at the end of the war the droids outnumbered the Republic 100 to 1 even at the start of the war the CIS outnumbered the clone army 10 to 1
They have 180 million droids.
@@rtixboi4193 The droids only used 40% of their army. Also you are forgetting the organic soldiers such as the Umbarrans, the Quarren, and the Geonosians. Those were some absolutely MASSIVE armies along side the droids.
@@rtixboi4193 they had 10x that deployed and 100x that in storage and millions get produced an hour. And the empire definitely does not have 180 million soldiers
Imperial forces 25000 star destroyers
Sepratist forces 25000 munificent class ships
Per hour🔥
FOR THE SEPRATIST ALLIANCE✊
I have just recently watched this video and I don't agree with this and I do have some proof.
1. Number, CIS Wins: Now I did some research and the only thing I could find was the Empire had almost around 300 million troops plus pilots and officers that could probably make a billion But The Cis had almost a trillion troops with different variants. Plus it had some living beings so that can also be around a couple million. We also have to factor that there were just so many different types of vehicles in CIS then the Empire.
2. Trooper Variety, CIS Wins: Now this one you are correct the CIS had so many different variants of Droids that pretty much every Droid was made for every single situation. The Empire did have a variance of different troops but not by much.
3. Battle Exp, CIS Wins: you're also correct on this one and CIS had way more experience than the Empire.
4. Navy, CIS Wins: once again you're also correct on this one the CIS had way more different types of ships for every situation. Yes the Empire had better ships and some areas but CIS had so many different variants of different ships that they swarm the empire.
5. Better Warship, Empire Wins: now once again this is going to be a hard one because the Empire does have better ships but there are more vulnerable but the CIS does have one ship that could pretty much destroy any imperial ship and that is a Malevolence. The Malevolence can just shoot a EMP blast at any ship and all the power will cut off. Making any imperial ship defenseless and the CIS can just wipe them out easily. The only problem was was that there were only like a couple Malevolence ever made so the Empire will have a better chance.
6. Military Leaders, TIE: Now to be honest the CIS in my opinion has the better leadership in the military and most of the time in the Empire. The leadership are just bad. The only reason why this is tie because the empire's best leader is admiral thrawn. And he is like the only imperial Commander that can actually get the job done but other than that the CIS would probably have a better chance. So give this a Tie.
7. Starfighters, CIS Wins: To be honest CIS wins in a landslide. The CIS in my opinion has the best starfighters and the Vulture Droid vs Tie Fighter. This is an easy win for the Vulture Droid. Yes there was one TIE fighter variant that was pretty much unstoppable but the Droid fighters just had so much that they would just swarm the Empire.
8. Better Tactics, CIS Wins: To be honest the CIS had way better tactics than the Empire and I don't think I have to say more.
9. Better Generals, TIE: The only reason why this is a tie is because the Empire had Admiral Thrawn but other than that the CIS had way better generals than anybody In The Empire. The Empire just had just too much ego and CIS we're more defensive with their tactics. So I would generally say the CIS would have won for the generals.
10. Better Admiral, Empire Wins: Once again Admiral Thrawn is just too good but I do think Admiral Trench would be a challenge for Admiral Thrawn.
11. Infantry, CIS Wins: Now I'm going to be honest I'm not saying you have done your research but the CIS just had way better infantry and they had different variants. Also most of the empire's infantry were just bad. Yes or some infantry that was pretty good but other than that the CIS are just better with their infantry.
12. Special Forces, CIS Wins: Now I do know that the Empire has probably better Special Forces but the CIS has different droids for their special forces that they can do different tasks. So I do believe the CIS would have won in the special Forces Calgary.
13. More Force Users, Empire Wins: This is correct empire does have more Force Users.
14. Leader, Tie: The only reason why this is a tie is because The Empire and The CIS are both control by palpatine so this is why it's tie.
15. Enforcers, Empire Wins: Yeah Darth Vader is a great Enforcer but I do think General Grievous can hold on his own if he plays smart.
16. Super Weapons, Tie: Now I know what you're thinking the Death Star should probably easily destroy any CIS ship but I think that's not true. Now once again the CIS does have the Malevolence and If the Malevolence shoots it's EMP blast it will just turn off all power making the Death Star vulnerable to any attacks. This is why this is a Tie. Also I forgot to mention that the CIS made the Death Stars plans. So this means the CIS will know the Death Stars weakness
So the score should be
CIS 12 and The Empire 8: Winner Confederacy of independent systems: MID-HIGH DIFF.
The CIS should have scored way higher their leader were far superior
Ysanne Isard, Thrawn, and Tarkin would demolish the vast majority of the CIS by themselves.
@@MOFFEditsbro brought tarkin into this 🥶🥶
@@MOFFEditstarkin kinda suck
@@MOFFEdits tarkin is a buffoon with no actual expertise
@@MOFFEdits Thrawn is the only threat
Great edit!new subscriber!
Thanks 💯
BX super battle droids are fucking scarey imagine a B2 super battle droid now imagine that shit with a jetpack and with dual missle batterys on each shoulder ou cant tell me that aint scaery any empire soldier would shit their pants seeing that
Roger: roger roger
Roger:wait I thought you were roger
Roger:I thought I was roger
Darth roger:I am the real original roger:no I'm the original roger
Roger:but I thought he was roger
Roger no I think it was him
Roger:no I'm roger I'm pretty sure that is roger
Roger:no I think it was roger I'm not Roger: My name is Roger I think that one is roger
Guys stop commenting this is obviously wrong and he did it on purpose so you all correct him in the comments and the algorithm pushes him because of user interactions.
Id love to see a full might empire vs an unhindered CIS
Really nice edit
Palpatine made sure to destroy the droids for human sovereignty in the galaxy with several droids and a numerous enemy The Emperor would be challenged and his rule would not last as master yoda foresaw the creation of the alliance.
The empire had far superiour ships than the CIS in terms of both starfighters and quality of their navy altho the cis navy would still win due to numbers
Последнее к КНС Звезда смерти это проэкт их и разрабатывали изночально тоже они.
Is it just me? Or did i just hear "For the san francisco alliance" instead of "For the seperatist alliance"?
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In a genuine war that Palpatine doesn't control the CIS, the Separatist have much better warships, easier to make and have superweapons that could wreck the Empire fleet. Their fighters are much better being non-organic, capable of tighter manoeuvres and being more heavily armed. The empire has very few competent commanders apart from Thrawn and Yularen (that the latter isn't a Navy officer anymore). The empire relies on big bad machines like the walkers, all of which are large while the Separatists have a vehicle for every situation. The only situation where the empire is better is their frontline units, however, the B1s are at a higher number and are supported by other extremely lethal droids that the Empire isn't capable of dealing with...
I love it its my fav Edit
Honestly because dooku was Geld back they would loose but if he wasn’t the would decimate any nation
True but when the rebelion coud defeat the empire the seperates coud have 100 percent too
What an edit but numbers go to cis because there were quintillions of them by the end of clone wars and super weapons goes to cis since they made the Death Star and had other weapons but palpatine didn’t let them use them
Bro what?
Experience, tactics, starfighters, trooper variety, etc all goes to Empire, but numbers goes to CIS
What's the song remix? I know it's somebody I used to know, but who's the artist/remixer?
Gave numbers to the empire and navy to the CIS. Ok?
The CIS had trillions if not quadrillions of battle droidsm
For the Empire 🫡
You earned a sub . Lol palpatine was like . HEY WHY DA HECK U UPLOADING ME ON CZcams LET UR CAMERA BE DESTROYED
Did you know at the end of the clone wars, There is a glitch 3 billion battle droids🤓
all i'll say droidekas would COOK stormtroopers vader and the like ships and palpatine would kinda carry ngl
As soon as you gave numbers to the empire I was like 🫤 and immediately came to the comments
Not to mention palpatine forced the droid army to keep 60% of it’s military in reserve. Throughout the war droids were only fighting at 40% strength
“Surrender Jedi”
Huh the CIS has more numbers than the galactic empire at its peak
Not necessarily
Amazing edit, great work, FOR THE EMPIRE
the galatic empire would Destroy the Separatist Alliance if the C.I.S. is not careful....... I agree the separatists must win.
The empire would get steamrolled bro. CIS has trillions of droids, massive fleet and generals like grievous and tactical droids compared to the empires generally ineffective commanders and inexperience.
The CIS had less troop variation with 4 infantry variants vs the 10+ empire variants, the empire had more variants in all its forces excluding navy, and the empires navy was overall more powerful, with an ISD having the same power output as a cis battleship
FOR DEMOCRACY!!!!!!
For the separatist alliance how did you get that sound? I couldn’t find it at
GLORY TO THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!!
CIS i belevie had so many droids that every organic would have to fight 3 droids
The galactic empire is the strongest❤❤❤
C I S
For the Separatist Alliance!
@@RexMx-rp8vfFOR THE EMPIRE!
@@brandyjohnson9673 Long Live The Confedercy.
@@RexMx-rp8vf LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC THAT HAS BEEN REORGANIED INTO THE FIRST GALACTIC EMPIRE
The CIS can just create more. The battle joys have the numbers change it now
Droids are the largest army in the galaxy. No stormtroopers
this is hurtfull to watch
For the CiS, always. Roger Roger.
everybody says it wrong its: “FOR THE REPUBLIC!”
you give "Numbers" to Empire? ok....
Droids had more Quantity, but the Empire has more Quality. Not only that but also, the Empire has a lot more numbers than the Republic with better technology and training.
CIS had the best tech of the time to the point it was ahead of even the later empire in certain areas
@drunown9756 Certain areas. But not most. The Empire pretty much excells in quality and efficiency.
@@massielhernandez241the imperial stormtroopers are nowhere better than the republic clone troopers the clones were trained when they are young while are just regular people trained when they are an adult expect technology and weapons
@@6l1t3h_Official Yet the Clones miss against slow moving targets. While Stormtroopers are hitting hard hitting moving targets.
@@massielhernandez241 nah those slow moving target have plot armor
The CIS had the plan for the death star just never bulit it
I could not tell who was winning at all
Imagine if The Galatic Empire Has Nine hundred Quintillion Victory 2 Star Destroyers, Nine hundred Quintillion Fanon Victory 3 Star Destroyers, Nine hundred Quintillion Imperial 2 Star Destroyers and Fanon Imperial 3 Star Destroyers....... The C.I.S. Would be Doomed.
THEY HAD THE SAME DAMN LEADER
the cis leader was Dooku (yes Dooku was a pawn of Palpatine but Palpatine was not the official leader of the cis so he is comparing Dooku and Palpatine)
@@Lord_Imperion55 What palpatine says, dooku do.
@@thatguy1132 yes but Palpatine was not the Leader of the Cis he was the boss of the Leader of the Cis there is a difference
@@Lord_Imperion55 That’s like saying that if terrorists take over a country, they aren't the leaders, or if a crime syndicate had full control over a leader, they aren't basically leading country
@@thatguy1132 ok well look at it this way
Is emperor palpatine Governor of the otter rim? No that’s Tarkin but palpatine controls Tarkin thus he controls the otter rim so yes palpatine controls the Cis but he is not the “leader” of it