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- Giants GM and owner have a conversation about Saquon Barkley and whether they should let him go or re-sign him on Hard Knocks. @StreamOnMax
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"Daniel's making a lot of money"
Yeah, there's your problem.
Hard Knocks is about to get this MF’er fired
how
You know he’s taking directly to the GM…… right?
@@MWFlyZone0202😂
😂I can already tell you have no brain cells
What? The gm and owner are doing their job. This is called buisness
The fact that you still trying to figure out if Daniel the guy,means he’s not the guy.
I mean they said if pat Mahomes was behind this line he wouldn't be able to do shit so it must be hard to see when the guys got with no talent around him but now no excuses with revamped oline and finally a real number 1 wr
For real, let’s play him 40M a year to see if he is the guy even after what 4-5 years of him being the QB?
@@Bdawg._.I disagree bro this team was a playoff team a yr ago
@yurp7643 things change and that year we made playoffs nobody expected that from us because where we were at the time lmao
@yurp7643 they kinda stumbled into the playoffs with a fair number of close wins.
Waller: thought you had a buddy huh????
Let's let him go to someone in our division so we can face him twice a year.
😂😂😂
And Saquon will dominate
I mean that's not their call once they didn't use the tag. He is a free man. Should be more upset at him if anything. He chose them and I am sure he had plenty of other teams with offers
You act like they traded him to the eagles lmaoo
@@PartyBoyKiloit was reported the eagles were looking for a running back before we even lost in the playoffs lmaooo
Waller gone 💀
Watching this just makes me happy Howie is our GM 🦅🦅🦅
We’ve already figured out Daniel isn’t the guy smh…6 years later this shouldn’t be a convo
The better conversation was last year when they had to decide who to pay saquon or danny dimes.
And they chose Saquon but he wanted $16M per.
@@Chalk89And they chose to pay Daniel 40mill plus vs Saquons so called 16mill
@@ceez2140 yes, because one was a two-year contract for a QB, the other was a three-year contract for a running back. It’s really not difficult to understand - a QB is the difference between a championship and bust, not a running back.
@@Chalk89 You are making my point exactly, 40 mill a year to a QB who clearly doesn’t do more for you then your 13 to 16 a year RB Saquon does, this narrative that you don’t pay a RB just to pay a bum QB is laughable, that’s exactly why the Giants suck, and are where they are now, it’s really not difficult to understand at all.
@@ceez2140 Shit, I’d be a great gambler if I knew the results ahead of time - that’s how you’re acting. The Giants made it clear - Saquon was A, Jones was B. Schoen then pivoted, secured Jones for a LTD with an escape clause only after Saquon declined and requested CMC money. You keep absolving Saquon of any wrongdoing. He wanted to sign a massive deal. Joe Schoen made the right decision. You can not under any circumstance elevate the importance of a RB over everything else. Philly won a Super Bowl with Blount, Ajayi. KC used a seventh rounder. The point is obvious, you’re just too enthralled with Saquon to admit it.
These 2 fools paid Danny dimes lol .
I hope Barkley watches this for the whole week when preparing for the giants this season and beyond.
Seems incompetence reins supreme in the Giants upper management. Wtf would you pay Jones $40M, instead it could’ve gone to getting better players.
It’s not that crazy of an overpay. It’s moreso worse that they stuck with him as a QB. His contract isn’t too bad. He’s not fully guaranteed after this year. He can be cut next off-season with minimal dead moment. Also 40 million a year will be top 15 starter money pretty soon.
Because a 27 year old constantly injured rb is not a good investment. A qb who had his best season and won a playoff game is worth 40. Jones hasn’t lived up to that but giving Saquon the money the eagles did wasn’t a smart move either.
Thank you I feel the same way you draft the number two in the draft and then his contract is up. We don’t want to pay them just don’t understand.
Its called taking a risk. Jones had a pretty good season, looked like he was getting better, helped get them to the playoffs and won, so they thought it would keep progressing in that direction. Obviously it hasn't worked out so far (could turn around) but its pretty easy to understand the reasoning at least. Its extremely hard to find a franchise QB and its easy for people sitting on their keyboards to criticize stuff in hindsight.
@@dkmike2299 Also, who would they have replaced him with? The draft last year was weak and FAs weren’t great.
The casual “Upgrade the o line”like it’s just a simple thing lol
Bro said they gotta protect Daniel Jones
As a Philadelphian we look forward to watching Barkley take out the disrespect on you guys. Dam glad to have him, but I do agree with building the line first but Daniel is a 20-25 rated quarterback, so no not the guy but will get you through a season
Disrespect? The Giants didn’t have to release this footage for the world to see. I think it hasn’t had a negative impact on Joe Schoen at all as a person. Could you imagine the insane shit you would hear if they filmed this series for all of the teams. There would be much much worse things said. This isn’t disrespect this is business
The only thing we've found out about Daniel is he runs well and yes he makes a lot of 💲
He said “he would like to have him back” 🤦🏾🤦🏾
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS GET A BETTER OFFENSIVE LINE!!!! SAQUON WAS NOT THE ISSUE
They never said he was the issue. The issue is they can’t pay the offensive line and saquon that much
They're saying it's a waste to pay him all that money to have him on a zero offense. Honestly, they're being fair to him in this conversation.
Do you not have ears or do you just not know how to listen? They literally said they can’t upgrade the line and pay him what he’s worth. Damn you’re dumb.
@@brekerickson5911 If they were being fair to him, he wouldn't be an Eagle right now!!!🙄 😒
@@HyperionTG1 you could argue letting him walk WAS the fair thing to do. If you're unwilling to pay him, which is wise considering you're not a top RB from contention...then letting him walk is far preferable to getting franchised.... again. Which they could have done if they wanted to be dicks about it.
Asking "Is he the guy?" After you paid him is questionable
They've been asking this for like 5 years now
Upgrade the o line.... I've heard it's that easy
You don’t need an elite RB if you have an elite QB but Daniel Jones is not an elite QB lol smh.
Thanks Giants Go Birds !!!!
U guys r cooked next year
Go Birds!!!
He actually used air quotes with disrespected...wow
Yea bc he disagrees…. People can disagree. Don’t need to bow to everyone who has a complaint.
Daniel Jones has thrown 38 touchdowns. The last 4 years, I'm telling you. Firsthand information, he is not the guy
When they gave DJ 40M, I thought the general consensus internally was "he was the guy" because they saw something the rest of us didn't. Now hearing directly from the GM's mouth that they themselves are unsure is crazy.
Made a crap choice paying Danny, making it worse by getting rid of Barkley. Solid moves GM 😂
They offered Saquon, he declined. If you're going to criticize, get the facts straight. A struggling team isn't going to splurge on a running back - that makes zero sense.
Ski Mask HOWIE will pay Barkley what he deserves and he's going to ball out with the Eagles. This is the Best QB OLine WRs TE He's ever played with in Philadelphia
Daniel Jones will NEVER be that guy 😂😂
How do you pay someone 40 mil a year and not know if he’s your guy lol
Braindead org
Letting Barkley go was the worst decision the Giants have made in a long time.
The entire situation with Barkley is a bust. From wasting the draft pick to letting him walk for nothing
If you think Daniel Jones is still the guy possibly, you don't deserve to be a GM.
Yall boys need new people in the offices making decisions os what yall need 😂😂😂
EAGLES 🦅
After rattling off a bunch of nobodies, he Basically proved that saquon was their best player
As an Eagles fan, this can wither he REALLY good or REALLY bad.
"Daniel's making a lot of money," aren't you the idiots that gave him that contract. Some owners are so corny. "I wish it was a way to keep him." Yeah, it's called pay him like he's the best player on your team, and stop worrying about how other franchises run their operations.
Well other franchises all win more than the giants bc they don’t spend all their money on a rb
Keep him and have no o line for him to run behind or keep your qb healthy? You should run the team genius.
Saquon turned his money down so what are you talking about😭
@brianb1888 No, they win because they have competent leadership and know not to overspend for a position just because that position is overvalued regardless of the talent at that said position, i.e., overpay for Jones just because he's a qb, not because he's a good player. Instead of paying 40 million a year to a guy, a team SHOULD know needs a high level run game to be just good, they should of gave DJ only 34 mil a year and made their best player happy (Saquon) 13-15 mil a year instead of just 10 million for one hoping he injures himself (we all know when a team franchises, they are hoping you fall off or get injured so they dont have to pay you what you're worth). That not only would that have made their best player feel respected, it wouldn't have reset the rb market since saquon's issue is injuries. Plus, the team would have saved around 2 million.
All that being said, the giants had the right to do what they did, I just think it's corny they're acting shocked and surprised like it was nothing they could do, like it was out of their hands. Even though they could've literally just paid him if they're acting that shocked and wanted him soooooo badly.
@@Weoutherewildin Thanks for the compliment ^-^. Here's a thought, how about draft an o line or buy one if they're that trash at drafting o linemen. Here's a better idea, how about not wasting all that money on a C tier qb. He's a career backup at this point. He's as talented as Mitch Trubisky. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot who doesn't know football.
Seasons over before it even started 😭
“Upgrade the offensive line, give him a chance” *immediately passes on two generational offensive tackle prospects in favor of taking a skinny wide receiver*
Malik Nabers is a skinny wide receiver? He's the same weight as Chase, Jefferson, St. Brown and weighs more than Kupp.
@@Chalk89 like I said
@@michaelferrier8100 LOL - not sure 201 for a wide receiver is skinny but to each their own.
Danny Dimes has been a disappointment, but you never give an aging Rb a new contract when your team is not contending for a Chip
All RBs are aging. Like all people lol
This is the truth people don't want to hear.
@brekerickson5911 yeah but the career average for a RB is 2.5 years. That's the lowest of any position in the NFL. DEFINITELY pay QB before RB. EVERY year there is some RB that goes off that nobody has really heard of
Maybe don't even take a running back in the 1st
@@brekerickson5911RBs are more of a cherry on top, they arnt the ice cream
Mara is a piece of work. He'd like to keep Saquan, however he's open to franchising, then trading him. What a phony!
I wish Joe Schoen could say, 'I know it's your money, I know your my boss...but GTFO and let me do what you hired me to.'
Take Darren out 😂
Eagles fan - i was ecstatic when i saw Daniel's giant contract (ba dum tss), because i knew he sucked and they just lost a ton of money. The icing on the cake was picking up their RB that they can no longer afford. 'Preciate it!
What a lot of people misunderstood that by NOT Tagging Jones we've lost 3 STUDS+kept the DUD. Jones should have been Tagged. Saquon should have been offered a contract and so should Julian Love. Why didn't we Tag Xavier McKinney?? Can you imagine how good our defensive backs would be with X+Julian?? Baker, Simmons, Pinnock, Nubin, Love and McKinney OMFG our defense would be AWESOME especially adding Burns
People will refer to this video when RB want to negotiate contracts. This is wild.
I need to hear from Giants fans. Where do ya’ll stand on Jones?
Saquon bout to have 400+ yards and 4tds against the G men this year
ya so why is Daniel Jones the priority? Dude isn’t even a starting caliber quarter back. We are talking about Saquon Barkley here
I would never have how I played my cards recorded.
This didn't age well, Waller retired 😂😂
Hrm where was the discussion when they gave Daniel Jones’ his contract ?
Go Birds!!!
Appreciate it lets go eagles 💪
Daniel is making a lot of money ..
We got to figure out if he is the guy. There's the problem, you're supposed to figure that out before you give him a lot of money.
5 years in and they still don't know Daniel Jones is a bottom 10 QB LMAO
They e had quite a bit of time to protect him. Either way anyone with a set of eyes can see Daniel is not the guy. He’s a solid back up QB at best but he’s not a starter
lol they didn't even know Waller was gonna retire....
Joe you did not read the owner at all,,,He wanted you to do whatever to keep Barkley
Good job upgrading the O Line this off season. Oh wait….yeah Malik Nabers will definitely help give Jones more time in the pocket…….🤣 got rid of their best weapon just to draft a different one
DJ n Saquon both on the market. Which ends up going to a team n being a starter? A difference maker. A guy which pushes a team to the top. They could have paid Tyrod Taylor much less and kept Saquon
No Waller now
This aged well
As a eagle fan, Thankyou giants🥰
Oooooof, no Saquon, no Waller, what a mess lol.
We have Waller 🤣🤣
No more Waller… 😂😂😂
Jalin Hyatt will be the star this season without a doubt
This GM is an absolute door knob
Jones contract could have easily been 20% cheaper
And if Jones said no, they wouldn’t be able to tag Saquon last year so either pay the extra “20%” and get both or end up losing SB a year early. That literally takes like 2 seconds to figure out.
@@hamsandwich184 And if Jones says no, trust me NOBODY on the open market was going to pay Jones.
30%
Funny so many grown babies sayin its disrespect, it's a business, there's no disrespect..
Giants organization is one of the bottom 10 in the NFL and have been for over 5 decades now 😂.
Facts !!!
50 years but 4 super bowls is crazy
As he's naming his offensive weapons haha who?
Owner wanted jones. Hes the boss
Imagine paying a qb 40 mill a year and not knowing if hes the guy
Maybe it's me, but they talk about these players like they're pieces lol
Yeah shit disturbs me
Because it’s a business and they are pieces 😂 are you guys dumb or something
I know man…but they’ll go with “at the end of the day, it’s business”
They talk about them like there employees which they fucking are lolz
@@foxfairchild2458 they're, not there
Bro you paid a bum and let go of your best player 🤦♂️eagles gonna run all over that ass this year
That's the problem should have never paid Daniel all that money.
Consequences of drafting Daniel Jones, or any Duke player that high
Dumpster fire
Saquon gonna put a buck 70 and two tubs on them little giants ... GO BIRDS!
We got waller... womp womp
The first mistake paying Daniel Jones.
Insane NFL teams let them post this lol
Imagine Daniel jones being the reason ur team got rid of possibly the best player the teams had in the last 20 years 😂😂
If the giants do t want him Send him to Vegas lol
Why the hell did you give Daniel Jones a lot of money?
Yes, you shoulda franchised him . . . AT THE LEAST!
Now, you got NOTHING!
they were better off trading him. But as an eagles fan I think the lord the giants are so poorly run. Now they’ll run poorly with whatever rb they use in that offense.
Only 7 million dollars is disrespectful now damn and im 6'7 230 wtf did i not even try shit
rb's dont get paid anymore
Saquon will be hurt by week 4, giants made the right move
Fire him, horrible to let him Barkley go to a rival
His decision was absolutely sound and correct, Berkley wasn't the missing piece to winning a superbowl the Giants offensive line was HOT GARBAGE and was way more important making better for Jones so Jones isn't seeing ghosts anymore, and our draft was fantastic they made good decisions, it's time For Jones to step up or we move on.
Why not get rid of Jones and Draft a Drake Maye, or Jayden Daniels keep saquon and still have something left over the oline
They consciously paid Jones $40 million a year, still trying to figure out if he's the guy, while you have the running back that is the guy at that position, but afraid to "overpay" him less than $13 million a year just for him to go to the Eagles of all places. This guy needs to be fired.
That owner wants to keep him , but this gm is trying to make Daniel’s the guy. He will get fired next offseason after they go 7-9
They have zero weapons
Cooked
Man the Giants really have fallen from grace
Giants are gonna be total buns lmao 😂
I absolutely love that he went to the eagles. That means he won them over and got wayyy more that the 7 million they we’re trying to get him to sign. This guy better be fired.
No wonder he went to the Eagles. Karma is real.