World's First RAM Chip (Memory Plane)

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  • čas přidán 19. 12. 2012
  • Dr. Bernard Widrow shows us his Memory Plane, he and his colleagues at MIT developed the first Random Access Memory in 1951-1953. The magnetic core memory plane technology was bought by IBM and first used in the IBM 701 mainframe. Widrow shows us the toroidal magnets, each one equal to one bit. These cards were stacked and used in the Whirlwind Computer.
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  • @josephwatson4616
    @josephwatson4616 Před 7 lety +18

    I have great appreciation for the early pioneers such as Dr. Widrow. Not many years after the era of the Whirlwind, as a young 18-year old recruit in the USAF, I learned what constituted the basics of a computer in February 1964. Starting that day and working in all my spare time, I managed to build a simple, fully programmable digital home computer by August 1967. Entirely built using discrete components (no ICs), its magnetic drum memory stored 128 10-bit words. Its hardware could directly add, subtract, and multiply as well as perform conditional and unconditional branches. Input was done using an 9-button keypad and output was via a modified typewriter. Upon completion, that project launched me into a 6-week job as an IBM-360 operator, immediately followed by a 43-year career as a software engineer, retiring at the end of 2010. I have seen and used many of these magnetic core memories during my lifetime as well as most of the memory technologies that have followed.

    • @Tadesan
      @Tadesan Před 6 lety +1

      Joseph Watson cool story bro

    • @Tv1Apple
      @Tv1Apple Před 5 lety +1

      Very interesting story Sir!

    • @SuperSetright
      @SuperSetright Před 5 lety +2

      ''immediately followed by a 43-year career as a software engineer, retiring at the end of 2010.''
      Elementary...dear Watson!

    • @kfl611
      @kfl611 Před rokem +1

      Where I worked at one time, there was a manager who had who knows how many degrees. He was a professor at a college, so he really knew computers. Oh and he in the 1980s was in his 60s or so. He liked the older technologies, and we had a huge and I mean huge, teletypewriter up against the wall, that no one touched, but he used it for something cics related. Unfortunately what the man had going for him regards the brainiac department, he was missing completely in the interpersonal department. Personnel told him to take a leave of absence and take a vacation as they were afraid he was going to go postal.

  • @mattnielsen6793
    @mattnielsen6793 Před 8 lety +172

    These are the people that deserve our respect and admiration, not the politicians and celebrities people are rambling about.
    People working at IBM, Bell Labs, people who designed according to MIT principles of design. It was Engineering with a capital E.
    Not to mention that they made current tech possible,
    They designed things that didn't break, and thought out their designs. As opposed to what we have today, which is a shame.
    Windows 10, Apple, planned obsolescence. They don't waterproof their laptops - technology that was designed 10 years ago,
    they don't release schematics so engineers can repair equipment. Back in the day you could get a schematic if you asked nicely even if you weren't a business. Now companies go out of their way to make your equipment break as quickly as possible, so you have to buy new.
    I swear, I am a millennial, maybe I am romanticizing, but it seems to me that back in the day people had ideas.
    Today people's approach to living is pathetic. Everything is for sale, and people don't care about anything, besides showing off
    that new iPhone, or a computer that they can't even utilize.

    • @lilimccoy6194
      @lilimccoy6194 Před 7 lety +6

      Matthew Nielsen they should be our government

    • @TropicalPriest
      @TropicalPriest Před 7 lety +1

      There is truth to that and not. Read Thomas Pynchon, a lot of his stuff focuses on how commercialization causes the misdirection of science. And, he mostly wrote in the 70s. Capitalism is innately tied to consumerism. I'm pretty sure the first scientists to actively create incorrect information in an effort at brand management was for the lead consortium, and that was 100 years ago. But, don't quote me on that. Anyway, I wanted to add that some apple heatsinks literally seal themselves to the keyboards. I was repairing cell phones for a while (terrible gig, don't do it, unless you gotta) and that's where you see the planned obsolence the most. It's pathetic. Older model Samsung phones have a much better and more easy to repair construction than newer ones. And, don't even get me started with Apple. They've purposely turned their chassis into shit. It is a sad state of affairs, indeed. Then again, through the internet, and hopefully into the future, with the decentralization of information and the growing necessity for competence in a digital world. I see people being thrusted towards technology if only to put food to mouth. Either way, I figure the earlier you start trying to become more intimate with lower levels processes, the better. Open source, that's how I see the future. And, based on their most recent actions, so does Microsoft. As genuinely surprising as that is lol. Or not surprising. I'm sure you know what I mean.

    • @prolamer7
      @prolamer7 Před 7 lety +1

      Planed obsolescence is not major issue for me, major issue is, that products you mentioned ARENT fully operational by the end of their life cycle, thats what is rly wrong with todays tech.

    • @sagarkapasi099
      @sagarkapasi099 Před 7 lety +1

      Agreed

    • @vincentpol
      @vincentpol Před 7 lety

      Most of those made more money per month than most people got in years, so I wouldn't feel so sorry for their lack of appreciation.

  • @neoqueto
    @neoqueto Před 8 lety +26

    Are there any more videos narrated by Dr. Widrow? The way he talks makes this topic so fascinating and his voice is clear and warm.

  • @robertbilling6266
    @robertbilling6266 Před 6 lety +3

    Aah, the nostalgia! I got my first paid programming job on a DEC PDP11/40 back in 1973. It had IIRC 16k x 16 of ferrite cores, and each chunk (4k?) was three huge PCBs, the core plane, the drivers and the sense amplifiers. Remember the destructive read, and the Unibus DATIP cycle that paused a memory operation in the middle so that you could do a read-modify-write efficiently? Those were the days when programmers were real programmers.

  • @richards779
    @richards779 Před 8 lety +35

    Interesting until about 3 years ago the last ferrite memory computer was being used by Polish State Railways (PKP) to compute train routes and timetables !

    • @Teth47
      @Teth47 Před 8 lety

      +Richard S Could they really not afford to hire an intern to write that into an applet for a laptop to compute? The cost of running that behemoth must have been insane, would have been better served in a museum IMO...

    • @richards779
      @richards779 Před 8 lety

      +Teth47 they could have, but the IT staff were very happy with their antique computer. They were forced to upgrade about 2 years ago and immediately there were problems!

    • @Teth47
      @Teth47 Před 8 lety

      Richard S There're always problems when something changes, it's a system everyone's not used to. The point is that it's way cheaper and better once it's going smoothly

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 Před 8 lety +2

      +Teth47 I believe commercial computer manufacturers settled on hiring Asian companies who hired women to weave core planes. There were also wiring jigs with grooves for wires and slightly deeper "pits" into which the cores would settle when shaken, with the proper orientation. Cores would be poured from a container onto the jig like pouring salt, the jig would be shaken until the excess cores fell off into a bin for reuse, and each necessary core was sitting in its pit with the hole oriented to insert the wires. Every core had four wires going through it: one passing through each row, one through each column (one row and one column carrying a pulse of current just over HALF the amount needed to switch the core's magnetization), one diagonally through every core in the plane to sense, when a core was reset to the 0 direction, whether it had changed from a 1 (thus reading the data), and another wire going diagonally through the plane on the opposite diagonals to inhibit the writing of a new 1 in the cores which contained (or the computer needed to make them contain) a 1 before the first pair of pulses. After the cores were settled properly in the jig, the workers ran a separate wire for every row (in this case, 64 rows), a separate wire for every column (in this case, 64 columns times 64 rows make 4096 cores), and the sense and inhibit wires through every core, according to the diagram.
      Core memory was destructive read-out; the memory would write a zero and amplify any pulse on the sense wire, storing the bit in a temporary holding register (one flip-flop circuit per bit). If the computer was writing new data, that would be replaced; if it was reading data, that holding register would be made available to the computer. In either case, the old or new data would be written back; the row and column would be selected to sent pulses in the opposite direction, trying to write a 1, but the inhibit wire would have a pulse set up to oppose them if the bit was supposed to become, or remain, a 0. And this remained the most effective memory technology until the production of large enough semiconductor chips.

    • @nuckelheddjones6502
      @nuckelheddjones6502 Před 8 lety

      +Richard S
      Punctuation is a thing.

  • @bunnymcbunnerson1334
    @bunnymcbunnerson1334 Před 6 lety +1

    Hilda! She had knowledge of actually creating the first RAM! Think if we were starting all over again! How invaluable SHe and Dr Bernard Widrow would be! What a team!

  • @joshuaamerson2365
    @joshuaamerson2365 Před 5 lety

    Thank you for your time and contributions.

  • @Eddiecurrent2000
    @Eddiecurrent2000 Před 10 lety +42

    A real pioneer of electronics, it is sad to see modern electronics firms fighting over patents that concern finger swipes, or rectangular cases with curves on them, kinda pathetic when compared to something like this. Apple and Samsung should be ashamed.

    • @Chalky.
      @Chalky. Před 9 lety +9

      Mainly Apple because they are the biggest patent Trolls in history, where Samsung have actually had a good history of sharing intellectual property and most of their patent cases now are in defense of Apple in a kind of Mutually Assured Destruction.

    • @MrPepsicola123
      @MrPepsicola123 Před 9 lety +11

      its not Samsung fault, its apples. Apple is a patent troll stealing already made technology and changing its shape then yelling i invented that you cant have it.

    • @spydergs07
      @spydergs07 Před měsícem

      Samsung still contributes to open source, Apple doesn't.

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Před 7 lety

    I could listen to this guy talk all day about the old stuff. and how much things have changed. great video

  • @scottamata
    @scottamata Před 5 lety

    This was a real treat. THANK YOU FOR SHARING!

  • @kfl611
    @kfl611 Před rokem

    Thanks for posting a great video. My did didn't deal with the field directly, but he used to sell computer connectors and computer boards and cables and he remembered core memory.

  • @bme7491
    @bme7491 Před 7 lety +7

    I worked on some of the first 32 bit mainframes in the early 70's. They had 8192x32 bit core memories (in this case made by AMPEX), basically the same as what Dr. Widrow was holding only smaller and denser (each module was about the size of a medium sized hardback book).

    • @RREDesigns
      @RREDesigns Před 7 lety

      Do you have a piece of those? It would be great to cut it in halves and look at it for a couple of hours. xD

    • @rra022001
      @rra022001 Před 5 lety

      @@RREDesigns 32 bit or 36 bit?

    • @RREDesigns
      @RREDesigns Před 5 lety

      @@rra022001 Either would be awesome. :D

  • @davidgrisez
    @davidgrisez Před 2 lety +1

    Magnetic Core Memory was an amazing development for its time. I am old enough to remember when there were computers with Magnetic Core Memory. One of the things that made Magnetic Core Memory expensive was the fact that it had to be made by hand weaving. There was a time in the past when IBM employed large numbers of women to make this memory. With the modern Static RAM and Dynamic RAM this type of memory has been obsolete for a number of years. It was modern Static RAM and Dynamic RAM that helped get the price of computers so low that almost anyone can afford a computer.

  • @marknesselhaus4376
    @marknesselhaus4376 Před rokem

    Very nice to watch this video. I just finished building my own magnetic core memory plane last week though it is only 16 bits. Works great and a great learning experience to see how it was done years ago.

  • @HeiligerGrimmnir
    @HeiligerGrimmnir Před 7 lety +2

    Awesome video. Thanks!

  • @MrBobcat975
    @MrBobcat975 Před 11 lety +1

    I'm in awe of what these engineers and scientists did back in the day. I only hope I can make 1/100th of the same contribution to humanity these guys did. I would die happy.

  • @stevenrais9360
    @stevenrais9360 Před 6 lety

    so cool, I had a CCNA teacher that had the successor to that memory module sitting on his desk. love seeing where this all started

  • @SomethingNewEveryDay
    @SomethingNewEveryDay Před 7 lety

    Amazing, thank you for this video.

  • @solardiver7
    @solardiver7 Před 7 lety +1

    Very interesting. I have the memory plane out of the last Univac II that was operational. It is only appx 6" x6". Myself and another programmer were the last programmers to work on this computer for Franklin Life Insurance Co. in Springfield Illinois in 1973.

  • @lanchanoinguyen2914
    @lanchanoinguyen2914 Před 7 lety

    i have watched this video many times,but now i just comment that this man is awesome by his invention,the intelligent emitted by his thrilling is overwhelming.

  • @prolamer7
    @prolamer7 Před 7 lety

    Thank you for very informative video!

  • @WilliamAshleyOnline
    @WilliamAshleyOnline Před 5 lety

    Thankyou Dr. Bernard Widrow for your contribution to the future of humanity.

  • @piotrprs572
    @piotrprs572 Před 10 lety +8

    niiiiiiiiiiice... I love watching movies about computers history.
    and I remember 'only' zx 80 with 1 kB ram. :)
    And I spent hours on programming this 'little baby' as 11 y.o. kid.
    Later I get 64 kB expansion card .... and I was the KING of the WORLD !!! .. then.. :-D

  • @songersoft
    @songersoft Před 7 lety

    Amazing. Thank you man.

  • @thesavannalady
    @thesavannalady Před 6 lety +1

    "What's the hurry? Why do you have to go so fast?" Brilliant. Dr. Widrow's dad was the inventor of dad jokes.

  • @songersoft
    @songersoft Před 7 lety +3

    You can see it? So like if I ran my program through that memory, I could see what love is?

  • @markturney8843
    @markturney8843 Před 7 lety +12

    Sounds like another example (like Edison/Tesla) where the big guy (IBM) bullied the little guy out of his innovation and turned a profit. I tip my hat to you Sir for your hard work and brilliance!

  • @roffpoff8221
    @roffpoff8221 Před 8 lety +2

    What a great effort to make this very personal view on computer history.

    • @nuckelheddjones6502
      @nuckelheddjones6502 Před 8 lety

      +roff poff
      No. No it wasn't. A couple cameras, a script of questions, an editor and bang. Not actually an effort.

    • @kkedmonton
      @kkedmonton Před 8 lety +2

      +Nuckelhedd Jones I have never done this before but here it goes - go and fuck yourself. By your logic going to the moon is just a few people, some fuel and a rocket. I bet you are the kind of person that diminishes the work of others while valuing your own above its true worth.

    • @neoqueto
      @neoqueto Před 8 lety +2

      +Nuckelhedd Jones by stating that it's not a personal story you're trying to say that this video is full of lies. Why? Because all the information in this video comes from this great man who was a part of that research. He's speaking in first person.

    • @vaahtobileet
      @vaahtobileet Před 5 měsíci

      @@nuckelheddjones6502 autism

  • @AliasUndercover
    @AliasUndercover Před 3 lety

    It amazes me that this worked.

  • @stevenflogerzi1955
    @stevenflogerzi1955 Před rokem +1

    Those 20 facilities were built in 1962 and were the Air Traffic Control Centers of the US. under the CAA later to become the FAA.... and yes IBM made the computers, Ratheon made the Displays.

  • @mr.nobody6829
    @mr.nobody6829 Před 6 lety +3

    So the memory stacks used to be real physical stacks back in the day.

  • @paulmoffat9306
    @paulmoffat9306 Před 6 lety

    I worked with a Data Genera computer in the early 70's that had 8K x 16 bits of Core Memory on 2 modules of 4K each. The input/output device as a model ASR-33 Teletype machine at 10 Characters per second. The great thing about core memory, was that once the program is loaded, it is immediately available whenever the computer was powered up (semi -ROM).

  • @DFX2KX
    @DFX2KX Před 10 lety +10

    4,096 bits... That's interesting... My Linux computer stores passwords in PGP encryption format. it's 4096 as well, so the bit-width alone (no data) would fill this entire plane.... Wow. It's neat, though, how you can see the actual wires and bits inside it.(and if it broke, you COULD actually fix it, as much of a pain as it would be)

    • @insoft_uk
      @insoft_uk Před 7 lety +1

      And files are stored in 4K chunks, interesting

  • @TekCroach
    @TekCroach Před 3 lety

    Magical memories.

  • @fysl305
    @fysl305 Před 11 lety

    Wow, that was awesome

  • @Toadydo
    @Toadydo Před 7 lety

    This is so cool !

  • @kght222
    @kght222 Před 7 lety +3

    on today's memory you would need an electron scanning microscope, and you would never technically see them.

  • @RetroGamerVX
    @RetroGamerVX Před 11 lety +1

    Wow, that so awesome, I'd love such a thing, such technological history :o) Wow, nearly blew my ears off with the bass in the outro!! lol

  • @ChristBurner
    @ChristBurner Před 9 lety +1

    That was awesome. :)

  • @wiresalot
    @wiresalot Před 11 lety

    Just Awesome!

  • @malcontender6319
    @malcontender6319 Před 3 lety

    The bridge from analog to digital. This man and men like him will be venerated in the future.
    But they should be praised now, while they're still with us.

  • @boboala1
    @boboala1 Před 7 lety +1

    Nice historic video! Great time to be alive for the first 'Digital Guys'. And kudos to Hilda the core knitter. 4096 lattice points and she got 'em all aligned right. Though I'm in my 50's and been using & teaching about computers, I've not run across 'Whirlwind' until just recently (2 days ago 11-20-16) and now in this video. Good protection of trade secrets!

    • @invertedv12powerhouse77
      @invertedv12powerhouse77 Před 7 lety

      boboala1 right now we just need quantum computing to be commercialized. Again China has a satellite launched this year with this, for a secure comms network. Nasa (and I think google) has one as well

    • @boboala1
      @boboala1 Před 7 lety

      Pre-Google: what is 'quantum computing'? Does it have anything to do with nuclear wessels?

    • @invertedv12powerhouse77
      @invertedv12powerhouse77 Před 7 lety

      boboala1 no. Basically it uses "quantum physics" to perform calculations. Much more complex, and it simulates a biological brain, which is more powerful than a PC

    • @boboala1
      @boboala1 Před 7 lety

      Is your avatar/pic the guy off the animated 'Heavy Metal' movie? I love it!

  • @l0st3dzonesoft
    @l0st3dzonesoft Před 5 lety

    Seriously, those man are legend.

  • @MM0SDK
    @MM0SDK Před 7 lety +1

    This really wasn't that long ago. Imagine how far technology will have advanced in a couple of hundred years from now.

  • @NHRC569B
    @NHRC569B Před 11 lety

    That's amazing, especially to think one bit per panel... now we have 4 gb on a thing like 1/6 of that size.

  •  Před 7 lety

    awesome story

  • @flippert0
    @flippert0 Před 6 měsíci

    It's 2024 and I think, Dr. Widrow is still alive.

  • @ZONNEKAT
    @ZONNEKAT Před 11 lety

    Hilda did a good job !

  • @Oshbotscom
    @Oshbotscom Před 10 lety +1

    Here is a video showing off the Whirlwind computer mentioned in this video: 1951 -Modern Computers MIT Whirlwind I with Real Time Video

  • @GeigerCounterVirtualMuseum

    Wow! So cool.

  • @CC-hr3lg
    @CC-hr3lg Před 7 lety +2

    I worked for DEC in the 80s

  • @ver64
    @ver64 Před 11 lety

    Amazing

  • @hakont.4960
    @hakont.4960 Před 6 lety

    Damn, making those memory planes by hand must have required some serious patience.

  • @MartyMartin1952
    @MartyMartin1952 Před 10 lety

    AWESOME

  • @toresbe
    @toresbe Před 10 lety +3

    Actually, he is mistaken about one tidbit: The IBM 704 was the first to feature ferrite cores; the 701 used Williams tubes - which was its main handicap!

    • @mspenrice
      @mspenrice Před 6 lety

      Core memory was probably offered as an upgrade to the 701, though...? After all, it originally came out in 1952, so it wouldn't have been something he saw "come out" _after_ they stole the MIT work (...something which was probably seen as fair game at the time, as they were both doing government work on the respective machines - the 701 being built first for the DoD - and anything invented at a university was free for the good of all mankind, right...?), but they might have introduced a revised model with upgraded memory as a cheaper alternative to the 704...
      The processor doesn't know what kind of memory it has attached, after all... it submits a read request to the memory system and waits for the data to come back. Maybe it's faster, maybe it's slower, but the actual interfacing is dealt with by a different module.
      EDIT: in fact, from an article on the 701...
      "Memory could be expanded to a maximum of 4096 words of 36 bits by the addition of a second set of 72 Williams tubes or (later) by replacing the entire memory with magnetic-core memory" (using an IBM 737 magnetic core unit, which was the standard configuration for the 704).
      The bigger advance the 704 made was the addition of index registers to the CPU, which (for reasons I don't fully understand myself) made it much more capable of performing complex calculations at high speed, so it still considerably outperformed a core-equipped 701.

    • @tomvet4411
      @tomvet4411 Před 5 lety

      Yes I'm sure that the guy who was there and developed it and saw firsthand what it was used in knows less about it than the guy who's looking up all of his information secondhand on the internet.

  • @Gubalicious
    @Gubalicious Před 3 lety

    I imagine Hilda sat in a rocking chair with a blue rinse and knitting needles making that ram.

  • @RA-kn3gw
    @RA-kn3gw Před 6 lety

    but how did they come up with the idea of where to start to build it

  • @sthannyer8091
    @sthannyer8091 Před 3 lety

    To have the todays technology, alot things have updated till now

  • @NHRC569B
    @NHRC569B Před 11 lety

    As the beer commercial says.... real men of genius

  • @sablesanctum
    @sablesanctum Před 6 lety

    Pioneers. We rest on the shoulders of giants.

  • @525Lines
    @525Lines Před 8 lety +2

    I think they were called mainframes because of the frames that held the memory lattices.

    • @mspenrice
      @mspenrice Před 6 lety

      And all the other actual processing hardware, interfaces, tape drives etc; the computer itself resided in the _main frame_ , and it was controlled by various remote video or teletype terminals (in the same room, elsewhere in the building, or working over a phone line) and accessed card readers, hard disc packs etc that were freestanding. But everything absolutely needed to run some kind of basic program was contained within the main 19 inch by ~7ft frames. A standard that's persisted into the modern day for server farms and the like because IBM designed them to fit very neatly through a standard size doorway with just enough wiggle room to allow for hallway carpets and the door itself, and so you could get your fingers around the edges to pull it into the computer room without skinning your knuckles _every_ time.
      Minicomputers then originally meaning anything smaller than that, particularly something that would fit into the size of a mainframe accessory like a card machine or terminal desk. Which is why we have the otherwise seeming misnomer of "micro" computer for those which fit into the space of a terminal or remote access modem. Perhaps thankfully the terminology moved to "laptop" and "pocket" for the futher reduced forms instead of "nano" and "pico" etc :)

  • @Pauuanthakali
    @Pauuanthakali Před 4 lety

    in memory of Hilda.. unsung dream weavers..

    • @Pauuanthakali
      @Pauuanthakali Před 4 lety

      hey internet.. this ol'doc stores forgotten memory.. czcams.com/video/HPT7Wtp3yoo/video.html

  • @wizzair_offical
    @wizzair_offical Před 6 lety +1

    Well I wish I lived back then, now thanks to Windows 10 I get memory errors couple times a month

  • @david203
    @david203 Před 8 lety +10

    These were not really RAM chips, but magnetic core memory. I still have a 2K x 12 bit magnetic core memory which I salvaged from the trash when I worked at Digital Equipment Corporation. Very expensive to construct these by hand, but retained information without using any power, although that feature was rarely used. They needed relatively high-power electronics to drive the wires that read ("sensed") the current state and could change the state of the core at position x, y, and z. They were SO economical as compared with mercury drum, magnetic drum, or other kinds of memory.

    • @Teth47
      @Teth47 Před 8 lety +4

      +David Spector Yes they are. They are cards that contain memory that can be accessed at random. That's what RAM is.

    • @jtqthetieman
      @jtqthetieman Před 8 lety +1

      It's "they're". Just kidding. I saw the nuckelhedd comment and couldn't help myself. On another note, people tend to forget that RAM isn't just the volatile stuff that forgets everything once you cut the power. RAM is any memory device where you can access any part at any time. All of the solid state memory ever created is one form of RAM or another. magnetic tapes, hard disks, and CDs are not RAM since you can only read one bit at a time.

    • @Teth47
      @Teth47 Před 8 lety +1

      Jason Queen Nope, hard drives are random access storage too. The number of bits that can be read (Not one in the case of most of those formats anyway, BTW) has nothing to do with whether or not a given storage type is RAM. Tapes are an example of sequential storage, in order to read data in the middle of the tape, you have to scroll through the whole tape, you can't skip a part because of how tape is read. Hard drives and CDs can jump tracks and rotate directly to any point of data at any time, without having to traverse the circumference of every track in between, that's what makes the distinction.

    • @jtqthetieman
      @jtqthetieman Před 8 lety +1

      Teth47
      You make a good point but, I always saw them as sequential since you still have to move a read/write head to a location and you can't read/write multiple locations at the same time. When I was a kid, I wondered if you could make hard drives and CD drives faster by having more than one read/write head per disk.

    • @Teth47
      @Teth47 Před 8 lety +2

      Jason Queen The differentiating point between sequential and random access memory is how the reader head is capable of moving, not whether or not there is one. A hard disk or CD's read head can move directly to any point of data on the disk without having to sequentially read every bit between those two points, like a tape would. If a hard drive were sequential storage, if you tried to copy two things that were far apart, it would take hours to move even small files, because you'd basically have to read the entire drive to find the spot you're writing to. Hard drives also generally have more than one R/W head per disk, but only one per surface. Adding a second channel to each disk doubles the amount and complexity of the supporting circuitry, so while it would theoretically increase performance, it's cheaper and more effective to simply use two hard drives, which is what RAID is.

  • @nuckelheddjones6502
    @nuckelheddjones6502 Před 8 lety

    Amazing. They set the 4096 number way back then. I wonder if , in order to go further, we need to chuck the old model out, and design the next generation from scratch using the newest tech we have.

    • @mspenrice
      @mspenrice Před 6 lety

      *shrug* it's a fairly fundamental power of two, a square plane that has 64x64 (2 to the power 6) cores in it. Computers of the time hadn't settled on multiple-of-8 word lengths and were more often multiple-of-6 (as that's the minimum you need for a usable character set, as well as a reasonably comprehensive instruction set), so you could easily access any bit within such a plane with a sequential pair of 6-bit addresses (one for X, one for Y), or a single address on a 12-bit system... Though as this was mentioned as being one of 18 planes of which two were parity-checking rather than actual data, maybe it *was* used in an early 16-bit system... 12 bits of address could then be used for selecting a memory word (composed of the matching X/Y bit from each of the planes all together), and the other 4 bits for picking between 16 connected devices - multiple 4Kword memory stacks, disc controllers, card/tape readers/writers, additional processors, terminal interfaces etc...
      Not really any more big interesting reason behind the size than that.There's only so many sizes you can pick from for a binary-addressed system using a limited (and particularly, symmetrical) number of bits. That's also why the original individual DRAMs and SIMMs tended to come in bit or byte sizes that increased by factors of 4, rather than 2 - they were all even powers of 2 (8 for 256, 10 for 1024, 12 for 4096, 16 for 64k, 20 for 1meg, etc) and the memory interface chips would latch in the Row then Column (same old X and Y as for the core planes) sequentially using the same limited set of address lines on the DRAMs themselves (with SIMMs being fairly simple affairs that were essentially just a quartet of chips on an easily inserted/removed board with their address lines connected up to the card edge contacts in a particular way to effect chip selection, so appearing just the same to the controller).
      More modern modules allow factor of 2 sizing just by varying the number of chips on the board, with the slight asymmetry between row and column not being quite as important as it used to be given how many more lines there now are, and how variable the memory count in a single machine might be.

  • @MrBobcat975
    @MrBobcat975 Před 11 lety +1

    Actually it's 4kb/panel but yes, it's pretty amazing how far we have come.

  • @typedeaf
    @typedeaf Před 10 lety

    Cool

  • @dinosore4782
    @dinosore4782 Před 5 měsíci

    insane

  • @BrekMartin
    @BrekMartin Před 7 lety

    Hi :) Does anyone know what defines a 50 MIL core memory bead?

  • @agoogleuser1188
    @agoogleuser1188 Před 8 lety

    that 1 kof ram

  • @maggotjoe123
    @maggotjoe123 Před 9 lety +2

    i love technology. but not as much as you, you see. But i still love technology

  • @Conlan0215
    @Conlan0215 Před 10 lety

    Is there any way I could download something like this to my computer?

  • @samljer
    @samljer Před 7 lety

    So that plate is 4k? damn

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau Před 7 lety

      samljer 4kbit if I have been follorwing it correctly. Youd need at least 8 of these memory planes for 4kBytes, more if you wanted to add parity checking. Expensive to make.

  • @roffpoff8221
    @roffpoff8221 Před 6 lety +1

    parody checking is important !!!!

  • @web1bastler
    @web1bastler Před 9 lety +7

    I found a mistake in the cc at around 2:40. I'ts parity, not parody

    • @EdisonTechCenter
      @EdisonTechCenter  Před 8 lety +2

      +web1bastler Thanks, we produce a lot of video products so its nice to get input on small things that are easy to fix after the fact.

    • @nuckelheddjones6502
      @nuckelheddjones6502 Před 8 lety +1

      +web1bastler
      You may want to re-evaluate your life.

    • @nuckelheddjones6502
      @nuckelheddjones6502 Před 8 lety +11

      +EdisonTechCenter
      Except this isn't really an issue. Most of the kids watching this today, don't know the difference. They can barely spell their names. And as soon as common core takes hold, they won't even need to do that to pass.

    • @dumpsterstu4474
      @dumpsterstu4474 Před 7 lety

      +Pablo Pablo lets hope so go out open up sme eyes shock some people. Just teach everybody everything you know. They want us to be uneducated so we go with the flow. I have been realizing that with furthering my education it is hard to learn anything that is truly worthwile unless it takes two years or more. I also realize that most of the work we do is for the benefit of someone else.

  • @ufoengines
    @ufoengines Před 8 lety +1

    I ran across this old digital computer patent 3190554 that used compressed air instead of electricity to compute. Was this computer ever built and use for anything? Could one be built today using 3D printing? If Babbage had gone this route could his Difference Engine have been built buy the folks that built pipe organs? Seems like this computer would have been electromagnetic pulse proof and that would have been handy during WW3. Thanks for the post.

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 Před 8 lety +1

      +ufoengines Fluidic devices cannot operate as fast as electronics, but for a low speed application fluidics would be feasible, although expensive (that may change with nanotech). Some manufacturers of the furniture-sized hard drives of the day experimented with using fluidics to do the power-up power-down and disc switching logic in order to avoid EM interference, but it turned out to be cheaper (to build AND maintain) to use electronics and just shield the data circuits from the EM pulses. There was also talk about using rocket exhaust in the guidance logic of the boost phase. As far as I know, none of this actually reached the market or the space hardware of any country's government.
      Vacuum tubes are also EMP proof as far as being destroyed is concern. They may respond one time to the pulse, but it won't destroy them.

  • @pvc988
    @pvc988 Před 8 lety +2

    Microsecond access time? So you could still (apart from physical dimensions and interfacing difficulties) succesfully use it for some kind of mechanical machine control application. Todays simplest microcontrollers still work at these speeds.

    • @david203
      @david203 Před 8 lety

      +pvc988 It was used between 1944? and 1978? in several general-purpose computers, including the one I programmed, the LINC, which was developed by Lincoln Labs and manufactured by Digital Equipment Corporation.

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 Před 8 lety +1

      +pvc988 According to one source, it was first developed for JUKE BOXES (coin operated machines which played music stored on phonograph discs in the machine) to allow multiple selections to be entered at once: the core for a particular song was set to a 1 when purchased, the machine would scan for the next core with a 1 and play that song, then reset its core to 0 while playing, then look for another core with a 1. From there to computers with many more cores!

    • @pvc988
      @pvc988 Před 8 lety +1

      +Allan Richardson Yeah. Today that would be a job for a microcontroller.

    • @mspenrice
      @mspenrice Před 6 lety

      It's not even as slow compared to modern memory as made out in the video... DRAM has reached a bit of a plateau in terms of access speed that's equal to no more than about 200 ~ 266mhz, so 4 ~ 5ns (for pure random access; bulk burst reads are somewhat accelerated)... so "thousands of times faster" isn't really accurate. Though the on-die and SRAM based cache of a modern CPU does run at some GHz and in terms of capacity can be many times more than the total storage a classic mainframe ever had online, so there's still some truth there.

  • @gabrielcueto4101
    @gabrielcueto4101 Před 8 lety

    I have the exact same pc, can i run crysys 3 at ultra 4k or maybe gta 5 also i want to run FFX

  • @ludwigludwig3515
    @ludwigludwig3515 Před 5 lety

    Respect to Dr. Widrow and all who made it possible including the political system which spent the money and ...

  • @hudthestud6758
    @hudthestud6758 Před 3 lety

    Sounds so much like Jim Morrison it’s unreal.

  • @danielleimhofer88
    @danielleimhofer88 Před 6 lety

    Wow

  • @SkyCharger001
    @SkyCharger001 Před 9 lety +3

    small transcription error: parody checking should be parity-checking

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 Před 8 lety +1

      +RyuDarragh I'll give you a thumbs up since I may be the only one who understands the panametric conundrite of your reference.

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 Před 8 lety

      +Richard Smith PARITY refers to the oddness or evenness of the ones in a group of bits. Data was stored with one or two extra "parity" bits set to one or zero to make the whole group of bits have odd parity (in a few applications, even parity was the standard. Upon reading the bits back, if there was still an odd number of ones, most likely the data was correct (barring two simultaneous errors); if not, either the parity bit or one of the data bits had changed, so the data could not be trusted. More bits for error checking (redundancy) and a more complex formula allowed CORRECTING a single bit error, and detecting a double bit error.

  • @Ai-he1dp
    @Ai-he1dp Před 6 lety

    Most of my computer products become unusable before the guarantee expires, as in can't do the updates!

  • @DavidMadeira29
    @DavidMadeira29 Před 6 lety

    There's still electricity... There, I said it ⚡🔌

  • @Pimp-Master
    @Pimp-Master Před 5 lety

    I’m trying to imagine being smart enough to tell when the computer is giving me wrong data.
    I think he’s describing computers that were made entirely of vacuum tubes. Solid-state computers wouldn’t require half the building for air-conditioning.
    I believe in 1940, there was a magnetic core memory that used mercury & some chemicals.

  • @VoidHalo
    @VoidHalo Před 6 lety

    Whomever named this video clearly doesn't understand anything about computer or electronic hardware as a chip is an integrated circuit, and this is about the furthest thing from an IC you can get. Otherwise it's a very interesting video. You could have called it a RAM module, or memory module or something less specific.

  • @mauryginsberg7720
    @mauryginsberg7720 Před 6 lety

    I thought this stuff was ROM?

  • @4623620
    @4623620 Před 7 lety

    So where's the chip ?

  • @RetroGamerVX
    @RetroGamerVX Před 11 lety

    Working on it, but life keeps throwing one bag of shit infront of me after another :o(

  • @christianmccollum1028
    @christianmccollum1028 Před 2 lety

    M I T called. They want their memory plane back. 😪

  • @papafrank808
    @papafrank808 Před 6 lety

    Watch, he recalls the Cold War

  • @hubzcaps
    @hubzcaps Před 9 lety

    cool....im 27 and now i look back at FPM..... yea not slow. lol or dense

  • @PassiveSmoking
    @PassiveSmoking Před 6 lety

    This is not a ram chip. A chip is by definition manufactured directly onto the surface of a chip of semiconducting material. This is a plane of magnetic core memory.
    Nor is it the first random access memory device. That accolade belongs to the Williams Kilburn tube, which used dots on a specially modified crt to store bits.
    The core memory is a great achievement of course, but please make the video title accurate.

    • @tomvet4411
      @tomvet4411 Před 5 lety

      They can fix the title of the video by just adding successful before RAM.

  • @ufodeath
    @ufodeath Před 9 lety +4

    before anyone dares to criticize this video, one must remember that they MUST have ram in their computers to even watch this video in the first place.

    • @roffpoff8221
      @roffpoff8221 Před 8 lety

      +Sokami Mashibe yes, I just wonder if it could be realized by sequential memory in theory? like tape, witch is not a random access pr def, but it sounds difficult.

    • @mspenrice
      @mspenrice Před 6 lety

      It's an idea that's been tried several times before as a cost-cutting measure, both in mainframes and some early micros, and whilst it did still work the performance was pretty terrible. Rather like drum memory just without the bulk and expense of all the big whirly physical parts and multiple read heads etc.
      Though we can see some of the effect in modern systems both with many-times DDR memory (which has a much slower random access speed vs sequential burst speed) and virtual memory (even more so, as it's storing data on a hard drive, equal to either very fast drum or rather slow recirculating bit memory depending on whether it's platter or SSD), which are essentially the same idea given that they're many times cheaper for the same capacity than the multi-GHz SRAM that would be needed for absolute maximum performance but whose cost means it only gets used for small amounts of cache, and these days almost always built directly into the CPU...

  • @Tangobaldy
    @Tangobaldy Před 8 lety

    ha ha he admitted he is a thief at start when he say he snuck out a piece of equipment

    • @mspenrice
      @mspenrice Před 6 lety

      Well, it was more than likely headed for the scrapheap, so it didn't have any value for the company any more.

  • @KIXEMITNOG
    @KIXEMITNOG Před 5 lety +1

    Why this video has dislikes?

  • @healthfreedomnetwork993

    How in the heck did we go from that, to today... crazy. I'm glad for great minds.

  • @myroseaccount
    @myroseaccount Před 6 lety

    Who was Hilda? Somebody track down Hilda. She did all the wiring on these devices. Presumably MIT can recall or Hilda was?

  • @tom5051666
    @tom5051666 Před 5 lety

    512 bytes of memory

  • @speedwolf
    @speedwolf Před 7 lety

    2:30 ITYM "Parity checking" not "Parody checking"