I Installed Wifi 900 Ft Underground In An Abandoned Mine

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  • čas přidán 20. 01. 2024
  • It was a historic day at Cerro Gordo! We set off to bring Internet 900 feet underground to have communications, research, and more down in the abandoned mines.
    It was an adventure, as all things are up here.
    Check it out as I descend 900 feet underground to bring Internet.
    ==
    You can follow my journey on Instagram: / brentwunderwood
    Cerro Gordo T-Shirts and more: store.cerrogordomines.com/
    Mailing Address: PO Box 490, Lone Pine, CA 93545
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  • @jimjolly4560
    @jimjolly4560 Před 4 měsíci +1081

    Glad to see you've enabled password protection on your wifi... you don't want miners piggybacking on your network!

    • @SnowingNapalm
      @SnowingNapalm Před 4 měsíci +15

      because topside will Also have an access point 😂❤ basically could go offline network data but yeah 👍🏼

    • @nickaschenbecker9882
      @nickaschenbecker9882 Před 4 měsíci +107

      It'd be awful if his data got mined.

    • @baermithoodie
      @baermithoodie Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@nickaschenbecker9882get out of here 😂

    • @blueman5924
      @blueman5924 Před 4 měsíci

      @@nickaschenbecker9882”world record depth phishing”😂

    • @walk4848
      @walk4848 Před 4 měsíci

      @@nickaschenbecker9882 you sir win the internet for today!

  • @bassman87
    @bassman87 Před 4 měsíci +613

    as a professional Network engineer, i would have looked at using multi-strand single mode fiber (think a single cable with multiple strands of fiber to splice off of) to each level that is significant to you, such as the 900 and 700 foot levels. This way you terminate a pair of fiber at each level then add a POE switch to covert to CAT6 ethernet and provide the Power over Ethernet to run the Access Point. This method is highly extensible and creates a consistent, repeatable network for each level. The draw back is money, your method is a lot cheaper. Ether way glad to see you have connectivity down at the 900.

    • @procrastinatingnerd
      @procrastinatingnerd Před 4 měsíci +40

      I was surprised he was getting 50mb over the cable. not to shabby.

    • @bassman87
      @bassman87 Před 4 měsíci +28

      @@procrastinatingnerd its cause his phone was the only client using that RF space for miles, lol. you start adding devices and that bandwidth starts getting chopped up real quick.

    • @AroundHouse
      @AroundHouse Před 4 měsíci +47

      Using Coax is just crazy in 2024.

    • @buckmanriver
      @buckmanriver Před 4 měsíci +33

      I agree thats how mondern networks are created. However, to do that well the 900ft of fiber would need to be protected by conduit. So 900ft of conduit. Then you need the POE switches, those need to be programed to a vlan and protected from dust, heat and humidity. Another problem to solve. You cant just put them in a rack in a closet cooled by a mini split like we do on the surface.
      Oh and the fiber needs spliced. It is not the hardest thing to learn but definitely more involved than coxal cable.
      For those reason, I think the current design is much better because it is the simple and cheep. Thats my 2 cents.

    • @procrastinatingnerd
      @procrastinatingnerd Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@bassman87 No, I mean I was surprised that he got 50 mb over the 900 foot cable, not over wifi. Our wifi can get over 100 mb on the 2.4ghz band, the wifi isn't the limiting factor here.
      I thought it was obvious that the more clients you have, the less speed each gets (if they are all using it at the same time)... That will apply to the cable and the internet above ground just the same.

  • @robertmeredith3940
    @robertmeredith3940 Před 4 měsíci +190

    If you are going to spend a lot more time in the mine, you may want to provide some forced air ventilation down the shaft to dissipate Radon, which is seemingly everywhere underground and a serious health risk. It may largely settle into the deeper shafts to decay, but you should measure it to find out what level of risk it adds to the mine adventure and whether or not it can be reduced by forced through ventilation of the same type used in working mines.

    • @VintageLPs
      @VintageLPs Před 4 měsíci +18

      I live 30 miles from a radon mine and people from all over the world go there to “treat” arthritis and a multitude of other ailments. Certainly nothing I would ever do but a good friend goes at least one week a year. I would be very concerned with all the dust that is coating lungs down in this mine. We see it in all the vlogs. Obviously Brent isn’t masked while talking to us while filming but hopefully at all other times. (Wishful thinking.)

    • @deirdrepasko9056
      @deirdrepasko9056 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@VintageLPs I thoroughly agree, especially about wearing a mask!

    • @MeditationwithHolly
      @MeditationwithHolly Před 4 měsíci +4

      Radon is the second leading cause of lung cancer as well 😟

    • @hogandromgool2062
      @hogandromgool2062 Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@VintageLPs He stated he's possibly going to spend weeks at a time down there, which is not a good idea even for seasoned miners. I don't think he actually has safety in mind Or he's not aware of the latent radioactive materials in mines. No to mention the possibility of silicosis from just being in there for long periods of time.
      I wouldn't hold you're horses on that one.

    • @tiffles699
      @tiffles699 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@VintageLPsradiation in small doses actually helps reduce the risk of cancer. I would imagine there's actually some use for arthritis... As long as it's within an acceptable range.

  • @epremeaux
    @epremeaux Před 4 měsíci +41

    Next up: IoT environmental sensors. Particularly a 4 gas meter. Looking at all the dust floating around there, dust masks should be part of the long term stay plan as well. Having power down there to recharge portable work equipment light lights is also really helpful.
    Since this room is sort of your hub of activity down there, you may want to put in a network switch, with the wifi on one port, and more coax converters to split off into different sections of the mine. Another possibility is just to drop SEVERAL coax lines and toss the boxes into the landings on different levels so you are ready to hook up when you start exploring that area.

    • @MoritzC123
      @MoritzC123 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I mean you technically could even get a small airfilter unit for the base
      and I really feel that getting a UPS down there would be really a key thing

  • @rockosreview7068
    @rockosreview7068 Před 4 měsíci +531

    Once you start spening time down there regularly i recommend switching the lights from white to red at "night" time to keep your sleep cycles regulated.

    • @errorASMR
      @errorASMR Před 4 měsíci +13

      And turn off the wifi router!!

    • @1920benjamin
      @1920benjamin Před 4 měsíci +2

      huh, why? @@errorASMR

    • @remyw.4959
      @remyw.4959 Před 4 měsíci +5

      I live in red light at night. It's wonderful

    • @Crysal
      @Crysal Před 4 měsíci +25

      @@1920benjamin dont want the cave goblins discovering the internet

    • @NavyDood21
      @NavyDood21 Před 4 měsíci

      They are probably one of those people who thinks WiFi causes cancer or other BS like that. Other than thinking that you NEVER want to take your network down for any reason besides maintenance. There is 0 benefit to turning it off every night. @@1920benjamin

  • @raytherrien2851
    @raytherrien2851 Před 4 měsíci +574

    RG6 is only good for 327' after that signal is lost. either use repeaters or RG11 might work but that might even be to far....Id use fiber!

    • @leroyjethrogibbs
      @leroyjethrogibbs Před 4 měsíci +137

      Fiber is def the way to go for this.

    • @cozzycam97
      @cozzycam97 Před 4 měsíci +108

      apart from cost effectiveness and ease of repair, I can't imagine why anyone would suggest using Coax hahaha

    • @jarrettavery1747
      @jarrettavery1747 Před 4 měsíci +94

      I agree. I also have my cringe at the 12-2 Romex being ran 900’ down a mine shaft. Physical damage? Voltage drop? Nah, those don’t exist.

    • @collodionpositive554
      @collodionpositive554 Před 4 měsíci +74

      Fiber is so cheap these days and so are the optics, likely cheaper than the coax adapters..

    • @atnfn
      @atnfn Před 4 měsíci +37

      "Google" says coaxial cables for internet can be 500m (or 1640 feet). More than enough.

  • @berndm9743
    @berndm9743 Před 4 měsíci +23

    I am a ham radio operator and it has always been a Standard Operating Procedure when running ANY long run of ANY type cable or wire to ALWAYS do a continuity check on EVERY section to make sure you have a good cable or wire as well as all the electronic devices. Hook it all up BEFORE running even the first foot.

  • @ronarant2897
    @ronarant2897 Před 4 měsíci +46

    Sorry for the LONG comment!
    Hi Brent,
    Congratulations on getting internet to the 900 ft level!! If I may, I’d like to suggest a couple things.
    1. Add a POTs (Plain Old Telephone) line so you cane have a “ring down” phone by using the Viking DLE-200B below. All you do is pick up the receiver on either phone to make the other phone ring. I currently have this setup and it works great.
    The Viking® DLE-200B™ Emergency Telephone Ringdown Circuit produces two-way communication between analog telecom devices by simulating an analog phone line. Popular applications include dedicated point-to-point communication and telecom equipment demonstrations without a phone line.
    2. Considered upgrading the Coax connection to Fiber connection. Fiber has Much, Much lower losses than the coax does! If you ran RG59 coax that is very close to the limit of those devices, see below. Using fiber optic cable does have its drawbacks but the coax also has limitations.
    Cable Supported 75 Ohms coaxial (other impedances supported)
    Transmission Range Up to 1100' (300 m) on RG59 or 1600' (500 m) on RG11 at full rate
    Fiber optics cable can also support several other things at the same time such as video to monitor the water. This way you want take up the Wi-Fi bandwidth for video. Since you have power you can add a power supply with battery backup at the 900 ft and other levels as needed. If the “Head End” also has battery backup your internet connection would still work even if you lost power top side.
    Ron, N4PHP

    • @kalevwade4532
      @kalevwade4532 Před 4 měsíci +3

      yeah dude as a mining engineer having a hardline to topside has always been a big concern. like MSHA shut the operation down level safety concern, which im still a little confused as to how he is classifying the mine as even tourist attraction mines fall under strict scrutiny from them.

    • @ronarant2897
      @ronarant2897 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@kalevwade4532 In the past I have worked in coal mines here in Alabama and you just don’t run wires any old way. The requirements are very different for running wires and installing electrical outlets, switches and panels. I work for an OEM and we built Drive Systems and other things. So before a lot of money is spent, I would suggest checking out what you have to do to meet those requirements so you don’t have to spend money removing what you’re doing and spend more redoing it!
      Another thing is monitoring for methane gas. I don’t know how much air flow is moving through the mine or maybe it’s not a big concern but if you have any chances of methane I would only use MSHA approved lights and switches!
      Ron,N4PHP

    • @MaxC_1
      @MaxC_1 Před 3 měsíci

      I honestly don't see any reason to not run fiber that long except clearly the issue being installer likely doesn't understand past just coax and twisted pair/ethernet. Just grab a Switch with a 1Gbps SFP which is like 30$. Buy a roll of armored Fiber and then place a SFP switch at each level. around 250-350$ for outdoor singlemode Fiber 1000ft. if you wanna do it cheap. If you wanna do it proper pay 1200-1500$ for Armored singlemode, a bunch of rest of the equipment (looks like a UbiQuiti infra) and then proceed as usual. Use a bunch of Wifi6 APs down below because MU-MIMO does a LOT for tunnels like those by having beamforming ability. .

    • @MaxC_1
      @MaxC_1 Před 3 měsíci

      @@BreatheScotland while I'd have agreed with you, I disagree because all you need to do is have a switch at each 100ft or 200ft level. 100ft of wire can be easily replaced even if it's non armored and if it's armored chances of damage are really low. Obviously the hardest part would be installation for fiber but besides that I see no reason to go fiber
      I would have just stuck to ethernet Cat6 if I cared about repairability with switches at around 200-300ft. 328ft is limit for 1Gbps so you have all the bandwidth you'll need in a mine.
      32-40Mbps bandwidth on that Coax will not be enough even for 2 people and some sensors and cameras

  • @TheGramophoneGirl
    @TheGramophoneGirl Před 4 měsíci +229

    This would just blow the minds of the miners 100 years ago. You are now connected to a system that allows you to read pretty much every book ever written, listen to virtually all music ever recorded, watch images from around the word as they happen, access to all books. All 900 feet down a mine. Wow

    • @AmySoyka
      @AmySoyka Před 4 měsíci +26

      You can share pictures of cats.

    • @TheGramophoneGirl
      @TheGramophoneGirl Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@AmySoyka that too lol 😹

    • @momolovesyou9969
      @momolovesyou9969 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Internet itself would blow their minds, doesn't need to be 900 feet down a mine.

    • @TheGramophoneGirl
      @TheGramophoneGirl Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@momolovesyou9969 but that's where their ghosts are! 👻

    • @jenniferwhitewolf3784
      @jenniferwhitewolf3784 Před 4 měsíci +5

      I have about 18,000 records in my collection, only about 20% of them have been digitized. Saying the internet gives you 'virtually all music ever recorded' is not only ignorant, it is laughable.

  • @colincampbell7027
    @colincampbell7027 Před 4 měsíci +93

    You should have an emergency backup for communication like a simple crank phone. One down at 900 feet and one at the top. Crank rings bell, answer and talk. Small rechargeable battery to power the system. All cheap and available.

    • @QuasiMotard
      @QuasiMotard Před 4 měsíci +11

      Agreed! I would have immediately installed a set of military field phones as soon as that lift was operational. They are easy to find on surplus sites (e.g., Coleman's Military Supply), along with 2000' spools of field wire... a complete 2-station kit for under $350. Personally, I would have run multi-strand SM fiber and created a GPON network for the mine; multiple branches for each level with multi-gigabit connectivity and no worry about EMI/RFI crosstalk from the parallel power lines down the shaft. Anyway, I'm glad he got it working! 😉👍

    • @Yaivenov
      @Yaivenov Před 4 měsíci +7

      Navy sound powered phones immediately come to mind. One wire, no electrical power source.

    • @KastorFlux
      @KastorFlux Před 4 měsíci

      Aren't they already on battery powered radios plus internet now? There's no single point of failure in common between the two systems.

    • @TobyWhiteUK
      @TobyWhiteUK Před 3 měsíci

      @@KastorFluxradios dont work well underground, not to the surface anyway

    • @KastorFlux
      @KastorFlux Před 3 měsíci

      @@TobyWhiteUK it depends on how you set them up. People use radios in mines all the time.

  • @saintracheljarodm.holy-kay2560
    @saintracheljarodm.holy-kay2560 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Thats great news, might I suggest a dedicated phone that stays down there with a charger. Also put in some emergency lights that go on when the power is off, and a battery charge system. Don't forget to encapsulate all those components with plastic to avoid moisture condensation on the components. Have a great week and God bless amen.

  • @ToraTiger78
    @ToraTiger78 Před 4 měsíci +26

    With having power at each level, you may want to consider having POE network switches plugged into each of those outlets at each level so that you can add IP devices (access points, IP cameras, etc.).
    That would also allow you to use more traditional networking cabling (CAT6) since you wouldn't be exceeding the distance limits from CAT6.
    The reason for using the RG6 COAX over CAT for that 900ft distance is obviously that RG6 is limited to about 3280 ft because you lose signal (and power) the farther it goes.
    Using something like fiberoptic wire from top to bottom would mean you didn't have power over the Coax, but since you already have power running down there, that shouldn't make a difference.
    You could also consider a directional WiFi access point that goes straight down the shaft so that you could potentially get WiFi all the way down too (these are typically used for point-to-point WiFi bridges, but maybe there's one that would work for your needs too?)
    Another thing to consider is a VPN system, so that the devices on that network act as if they are on your own network in town. That way if you needed to connect IP cameras to a NVR, or other monitoring device, they devices in the mine would think they were connected to the same network in town... that became an issue for you.
    I'd love to see Ubiquity work with you to show how their rural and long-range systems can work for residential and commercial applications with sponsored content.
    Imagine having WiFi for the entire town, and show how it's all managed through Ubiquity Routers, Switches, Access Points, and their management system. I think it'd be a great collaboration.

    • @KyleGetson
      @KyleGetson Před 4 měsíci

      Yes agree with this. Also could put an intercom system for communication so you don’t have to have a device to communicate with the hoist

    • @TheHoofSmith
      @TheHoofSmith Před 4 měsíci

      @@KyleGetson Problem with the intercom system is distance. Radio based is not working down there. Hard wired would require specialised cable storage for 900' of cable.
      I would have taken fibre runs to each mine exit level. I know you were trying to cheat and use power over coax as well as data.
      Since you have power on each level you can have POE switches connected to the surface by fibre. if you have the switches on UPS they will run without topside power for some time.

    • @MaxC_1
      @MaxC_1 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@TheHoofSmith radio would work perfectly down there if properly set up. Just expecting a handheld with a stock antenna to work down a 900ft mine is ridiculous. Preferable is using a digital mesh radio, however too expensive so a good alternative is a Digital Mesh/Relay network like LoRA or Meshtastic. Allows you to setup a cheap spanning network that can do hundreds of miles and add Encryption even.
      Besides that proper analog setup would be having a 20Watt base station at the top with antenna pointed straight down into the shaft, using handhelds with a bunch of power, having a repeater network setup at each 100ft level and replacing the trash antennas on those handhelds with something better like a SignalStick. I've been able to get reception deep into mines with such a setup

    • @TheHoofSmith
      @TheHoofSmith Před 3 měsíci

      @@MaxC_1 You do realise that this mine is literally made of lead. You can improve it some but to think you can blast a signal through lead is expecting too much.

    • @MaxC_1
      @MaxC_1 Před 3 měsíci

      @TheHoofSmith never said "through" anything. My entire infrastructure was based on LOS which is why I mentioned a digital mesh relay allowing each device to act as a node and reach extremely deep within mines as, again LOS using 20$ devices scattered across the shafts.
      But as for Radio, again a base station with antenna pointed straight down. with a bunch of repeaters along the walls at each level would improve the signal capabilities a lot more unless you travelled really deep inside in which case- mesh networks win.
      I know what I reccommend works because that's what i've used before to get comms down in 400ft deep mines, which sure, weren't lead but coal but again I can't see it being so impossible to reach considering how they were able to reach get comms 600ft below with just 5W of power with a tiny antenna in LOS

  • @VEE3RDEYE
    @VEE3RDEYE Před 4 měsíci +126

    This makes the mine so much safer & gives me piece of mind when you're down there alone

  • @nekomakhea9440
    @nekomakhea9440 Před 4 měsíci +44

    Ships and mines sometimes allow for walkie talkies by running a network of leaky feeder cables between spaces, which is coax with intentionally leaky shielding, so that it can absorb RF signals in one space and transport them to other spaces to be re-radiated by deliberately leaking the absorbed signals. I've also heard it called half-shielded coax. Ships also often have sound-powered telephones, which can work even if the ship completely loses electrical power. Both systems can range from very simple to very sophisticated.

    • @jnw415
      @jnw415 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Leaky cables is the way for Walkie Talkies. Completely agree.

  • @ScottFerreira
    @ScottFerreira Před 4 měsíci +10

    Congrats!! Not only did you get internet on the 900 level but it's also pretty dang fast for all the relays it has to go through. So cool!

  • @hhgttg8034
    @hhgttg8034 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Brent, just heard you are going to be in the Wrecker Games with Matt's Off Road Recovery. Best news ever!

  • @S.Lim_Innovations2LC
    @S.Lim_Innovations2LC Před 4 měsíci +103

    For your dedication in preserving American History, CA and Los Angeles; you should be awarded and recognized by the Smithsonian and/or other organizations, after all is done and/or now. Love what you are doing. Way to go Brent! 👍👍

    • @Emzzz78
      @Emzzz78 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Great comment! Between all of the techies and weirdos, it’s hard to find a decent comment to like here, so thank you again.

    • @ScorpioSka
      @ScorpioSka Před 4 měsíci +5

      I understand your sentiment here but James Smithson would likely not agree with this. I love what they are doing here in Cerro Gordo but let's not forget this is 100% a for profit endeavor backed by an investment firm. If at some point the entirety of this operation is gifted to the United States (as Smithson did), then it would make sense to be recognized and supported in the way you indicate here.

    • @Rezin_8
      @Rezin_8 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@ScorpioSkacan you tell James I got a painting for sale😂❤

    • @Penpen2024
      @Penpen2024 Před 4 měsíci

      Wouldnt the coolest part of being down there putting down the phone for afew hours probably much healthier to do, but running power for lights and tools makes a ton of sense , and i guess the ability to look literally anything up down there is kinda awesome , least we know if you have conpany and they feel like playing angry birds or something of that nature , youll know mines either aint their cup of tea, or uhh yeah im gonna go with internet down there maybe just maybe nice but what for lol i can see both sides of it but if it was me id enjoy the time and especially that people literally cant call or txt me during mine exploring time… lol but to each their own- adversly very well could save your
      Life if you got caught ina collapse or something… so really nice work. Question do yall need afew more hard working and dedicated individuals up there bret? Just asking i may know afew, its my assumption that when you finish the hotel you might ,need to fill many roles around town especially if you plan on it making money and functioning like a normal hotel? I watch most if not all your vids and im just wondering bcus not sure you ever have mentioned and legistics of or specific things regards to workers and things that your going to b needing eventually..,but anyway- nice job!keep up the great effort and cant wait till the next vid as usual! 😊

    • @trudiswanson9855
      @trudiswanson9855 Před 4 měsíci

      This Aussie agrees! I've watched him from the outset.

  • @atnfn
    @atnfn Před 4 měsíci +82

    Could probably have tested everything up top. doubt it makes a difference if the cable is rolled up on the roll or going down the mine shaft.

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 Před 4 měsíci +1

      It makes zero difference being rolled up unless he kinks the cable

    • @imchris5000
      @imchris5000 Před 4 měsíci +25

      I think the cable itself was fine it was his sloppy terminations. coax you have to be very careful that the shield wires around the outside go into their place on the termination otherwise it can ground the connection

    • @garysmcdermott
      @garysmcdermott Před 4 měsíci +13

      imo, the first cable line, was compromised when he used brads to nail it to the studs. I winced when I saw him hammering it in. I did my first network install with coax about 34 years ago, and there are some things you just don't do lol
      The second cable run did not have that problem because he taped it to the cable that was nailed. This will present a long term issue since the tape will eventually lose adhesive and the entire weight of the cable will be felt at the top end, more than likely breaking the internal wire where it bends to go down the shaft.
      I think he was pretty quick on the uptake regarding the power issue, but I was grimacing about the third time up and down because there are plenty of networking tools that can be used to analyze the line without uninstalling it.
      But yeah, great work for a miner ! I would suggest that they use zip ties (tight enough to hold a few pound, not so tight as to crimp the inner wire/shielding) to firmly attach the good cable to the nailed cable to hold the weight and a tension stress relief loop in about every level. That should prevent damage to the top end of the cable.

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Před 4 měsíci +1

      The other cable end is buried on the spool so no access to it

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Před 4 měsíci

      @BreatheScotland He said it got caught or something on way down tried to splice it. He showed it

  • @jonr3671
    @jonr3671 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great choice of Unifi equipment. Little surprised the AC Mesh Pro didn't work but the little AC-Meshes have never failed me! I didn't know MoCA could go that far without a repeater, I was thinking 300' to 350' would be the optimistic best distance. Any-who as an ex-cabler and others suggested fiber would be a better choice for that type of distance and Unifi has options and maybe they will sponsor your videos with the extreme use of their equipment. Awesome Video!

  • @grackleaudit
    @grackleaudit Před 4 měsíci

    this is pretty damn amazing. admire your tenacity and perseverance in the face of all the different little technical issues that are annoying enough just working on a regular building... your positive attitude is super cool. congratulations on your hard work paying off, that's really exciting!

  • @ThingsMadeOfOtherThings
    @ThingsMadeOfOtherThings Před 4 měsíci +26

    That's awesome! Yeah, power via a 900ft coax cable was always going to be problematic. The longer the wire, the more resistance and hence a reduced current. So a thicker power cable is needed. Can't wait for the exploration that this will make possible! Tread carefully my man

  • @savageoldman
    @savageoldman Před 4 měsíci +62

    As an ex cable and internet technician, you should have ran fiber, or at least rg11 coax down the shaft, much less loss at that crazy distance. sure you'll lose at the adapters that you'll need at the ends, but not nearly as much as your losing with rg6. especially since your not starting out with fast connection to begin with. would love to see a meter connected to see your levels lol

    • @imchris5000
      @imchris5000 Před 4 měsíci +19

      he was really quick and dirty with his terminations and with no tester its hard to say what he did wrong. chances are the first cable was just fine and he just got shield wires grounding things

    • @whiskeyinthejar24
      @whiskeyinthejar24 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I wonder if there is less interference as it's underground. Granted, it's next to a power cable.

    • @savageoldman
      @savageoldman Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@whiskeyinthejar24 that's a good question, but as you pointed out, less interference is certainly negated by the power cable, and the lights.

    • @savageoldman
      @savageoldman Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@imchris5000 I wonder if he just twisted the stinger together and then twisted the braiding, it wouldn't surprise me cause I've seen it done many, many times working as a tech

    • @socaliguy81
      @socaliguy81 Před 4 měsíci

      Exactly.

  • @alovesupreme8603
    @alovesupreme8603 Před 4 měsíci +2

    You take “ go kick rocks!” To a whole new level!!! So glad to see things are progressing for you!!! I remember I was heartbroken for you when the original hotel burned down!! I wanted to hop in my 1976 Dodge Titan Champion Motorhome and come to help!!! Unfortunately my tenants were horrendous and I lost everything my home etc and couldn’t $$$ gas to drive ol Freedom out to you ( 7 miles to the gallon from east coast to west coast?) yikes in any event I too was heartbroken as I was owner occupied and due to terrible people that I was so kind to I became homeless as they owed thousands in back rent and were working!! Just refusing to pay
    Well enough about that sad tale of woe YOUR CHANNEL & videos kept me positive during Covid and Covid aftermath
    ❤❤❤❤❤❤thank you B!!! God bless you and your stellar channel!!

  • @deannacalef3513
    @deannacalef3513 Před 4 měsíci

    Congratulations! You have come a long way baby! Amazing!!!🎉

  • @Lib3x
    @Lib3x Před 4 měsíci +15

    we have a old mine that we transformed into an adventure mine. we use a wiered intercom system so we can talk to to each other. I think it would be good to install one in your mine too, as a second level of safety, in case internet break connection and you're alone down there

  • @neom0nk
    @neom0nk Před 4 měsíci +37

    If you're running coax under those conditions, I'd highly recommend adding a couple of coax amplifiers.

    • @wendellporter4875
      @wendellporter4875 Před 4 měsíci +3

      indeed running 900 ft or switch to cat 6 and would need to add a network switch every 300 ft

    • @jimh598
      @jimh598 Před 4 měsíci +5

      shoulda, coulda. woulda. Fiber would have been the bomb.

    • @lanswipe
      @lanswipe Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@jimh598 Was gonna say - just run fiber.

    • @greengiant912
      @greengiant912 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Also there are various levels of armored cable you can get too. Its more expensive but if ya want it to hold up its worth it. Hell run some armored fiber down there :D Only thing is you can't inject power into fiber. They prob went with Coax because I believe you can inject power into it with longer lengths, like others said CAT 6 you only get about 300ft of POE.

    • @lanswipe
      @lanswipe Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@greengiant912 right but they have power down there anyway so you could just throw a media converter and PoE injector on there

  • @karencroy9386
    @karencroy9386 Před 4 měsíci

    Congratulations! Makes communication so much easier so much better! So much safer as well. Can’t wait to see where the other levels go. So much to explore.

  • @nandee4057
    @nandee4057 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Way to go Brent! Your perserverence always pays off! Congrats!

  • @richcollins513
    @richcollins513 Před 4 měsíci +8

    17:04 Good to see that excitement in your face. Good work

  • @sheritamac87
    @sheritamac87 Před 4 měsíci +26

    SO EXCITING, Brent!! I can’t wait to get there one day!! Congratulations on this latest update to Cerro Gordo!! 🎉🥂

  • @keoka01
    @keoka01 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Way to go Outstanding!!! 🎉 and good luck with all other endeavors.

  • @Mit0_
    @Mit0_ Před 4 měsíci

    One of my favorite videos so far, loved the story telling!

  • @susanalbone5101
    @susanalbone5101 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Well done. Your patience knows no bounds. Looking forward to seeing the new ‘suite’ and what life will be like at 900ft down. Take care, BE SAFE. ❤️ Dorset, UK

  • @billjenkins687
    @billjenkins687 Před 4 měsíci +61

    I had to immediately wonder why anyone with any basic electronics skills would advise using coax.

    • @makalepetermeyer5893
      @makalepetermeyer5893 Před 4 měsíci +25

      It being cheap is the main reason for a lot of people

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@makalepetermeyer5893fiber is not that expensive

    • @deepspacecow2644
      @deepspacecow2644 Před 4 měsíci

      @@makalepetermeyer5893Is it even cheaper than SMF once you add MoCA adapters?

    • @TonyRueb
      @TonyRueb Před 4 měsíci +10

      The coax is not a problem, it's the power over coax. Way too far to transmit DC power.

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Před 4 měsíci +1

      Unless one uses an adjustable supply and crank it up a bit so it ends with the proper voltage.

  • @glennbrymer4065
    @glennbrymer4065 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Hey man, congratulations on getting your communications system up and running!
    Very exciting. The possibilities are wide open. Things are moving forwards. You've come a long way in your endeavors. Stay safe brother. Very happy for you.

  • @WYO_Dirtbag
    @WYO_Dirtbag Před 4 měsíci +1

    Your videos always give me motivation to work on my projects. Home renovatoon and large garden. Going to be drilling some shallow wells this Spring to try to use less water from the county.

  • @mrflippant
    @mrflippant Před 4 měsíci +10

    Always fun to see you get excited when something goes well! I'm looking forward to seeing how this helps you expand your mine explorations.

  • @thewolfethatcould8878
    @thewolfethatcould8878 Před 4 měsíci +22

    Hey Brent, I wish you all the best in your journey with Cerro Gordo. I hope to one day take a trek over that way to see it in person. What a thrilling adventure you are living and fulfilling. Keep up the great work, I look forward to seeing where you go from here!

  • @susanwoodcarver
    @susanwoodcarver Před 4 měsíci

    I am so proud of you! I’ve watched you since the very beginning. I really look forward to receiving your book.
    Best wishes, and best of luck.❤

  • @petepowell7399
    @petepowell7399 Před 4 měsíci

    love your work and dedication. Thankyou sir!

  • @Buddy79011
    @Buddy79011 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Brent has determination like no other

  • @michaeltaylor3172
    @michaeltaylor3172 Před 4 měsíci +8

    LOVED watching this LIVE! Such a milestone for you 👊

  • @kimtracey4061
    @kimtracey4061 Před 4 měsíci

    You are awesome!!!!! Loved you finally reaching your goal! Now you are safe.

  • @horskyy
    @horskyy Před 4 měsíci

    I've been watching since the beginning and you've come so far. Congratulations!

  • @nikolampela9636
    @nikolampela9636 Před 4 měsíci +49

    Cerro Gordo totally deserves a Starlink!

    • @derekbrotherton3462
      @derekbrotherton3462 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Yeah, really surprised they didn’t go with it. I have it deployed at two locations and see average 200 mbps dl speeds and it’s solid as a rock

    • @niceride
      @niceride Před 4 měsíci

      Better value for money is the local guy who is knowledgeable and willing to be on-camera explaining how the stuff works. Our local guy that re-sells his Charter Internet business connection is friendly enough but doesn't understand networking and would boast how every additional nested NAT is the same as making his offering more secure and started talking about how IPv5 is the future when I asked about IPv6. Until Starlink though there's not been any other option for our valley. Now I reluctantly use Starlink... 6x the cost and giving away that money to some corporate overlord is not ideal.

    • @viniciusberetta
      @viniciusberetta Před 4 měsíci +2

      Nice speech.
      Starlink everyday.

    • @viniciusberetta
      @viniciusberetta Před 4 měsíci +1

      Is starlink and fiber+ubiquiti going down a solution too expensive to run?
      Setup would be so much easier.

    • @derekbrotherton3462
      @derekbrotherton3462 Před 4 měsíci

      @@niceride Dang, how much does he charge? The Starlink equipment was 600 and then 120 a month. If 120 a month is 6x what you pay him that means he’s reselling high speed for 20 bucks a month in a rural remote area.

  • @sharonmalone8312
    @sharonmalone8312 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Good job Brent,this was history in the making,right in front of our eyes. I love it.Can’t wait to see what the next step will be.

  • @djphilipj
    @djphilipj Před 4 měsíci +1

    Going down the shaft looks like a lot of fun. I am happy for you mate doing what you love to do. Keep it up brother.

  • @josepolanco8552
    @josepolanco8552 Před 4 měsíci

    Cerró Gordo dream making reality, beautiful beautiful place silver mine, god bless your hard work to make the place look so beautiful!!

  • @Davida50795
    @Davida50795 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I'm so happy to see your mine exploration videos are back I'm missed.them you have fantastic channel

  • @DanO530.8
    @DanO530.8 Před 4 měsíci +7

    You should also install a two way line connected to the internet cable just pick up the phone and talk to the hoist operator on the other phone and maybe put a loud speaker two way also…

  • @user-ru1vo2mu7b
    @user-ru1vo2mu7b Před 4 měsíci +1

    Glad you made it!! Now onto those deeper levels.......

  • @mdrouin6306
    @mdrouin6306 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Mike from Elk Grove Crunch Fitness CA, ive been following u from tge beginning, you're doing incredible progress and overcome barrier's with the support of great volunteers

  • @chuckmiller5763
    @chuckmiller5763 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great seeing you in the Matts Offroad Recovery video. I dont subscribe to many channels, but somehow managed to see many of my favorite channels listed in that video today.

  • @ledesclos5321
    @ledesclos5321 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Kudos to you and the team. You are the man!

  • @averyhawthorn6097
    @averyhawthorn6097 Před 4 měsíci

    Your content is like no other. I get excited everytime a video comes up from ghost town living!

  • @Katseye102
    @Katseye102 Před 4 měsíci

    A dream becomes reality!! You really are inspiring Bret! EPIC!!!

  • @zachbrooks20
    @zachbrooks20 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I notice you seem to always make a point that Cerro Gordo was the biggest silver mine in California.
    Would really enjoy a video comparing Cerro to some of the other silver mines active around the same time that were bigger.
    Anywho big fan. Thanks for the videos.

    • @royreynolds108
      @royreynolds108 Před 4 měsíci

      Are you referring to the Comstock Mine at Virginia City, NV?

  • @joannmonahan7229
    @joannmonahan7229 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Ready , looking forward

  • @blurboards1
    @blurboards1 Před 4 měsíci

    Glad you finally got the interwebs up at the 900! Look forward to the rest of the year for Cerro Gordo.

  • @user-zj9eb9lg5t
    @user-zj9eb9lg5t Před 4 měsíci

    Love all the exerts that have no clue of the challenges in such an environment. Good Job Brian

  • @deanvinlove6095
    @deanvinlove6095 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Way to go Brent!! Awesome !!!

  • @three6ohchris
    @three6ohchris Před 4 měsíci +4

    The excitement is palpable, I can feel it through my screen, coming from you. Lol. Nice job to all that helped you work on this! This has to be the first mine in history to have Wi-Fi down at the 900 level, lol.
    Not sure if anyone else asked but was Starlink ever a consideration for you guys? I feel like it would give you a better download and uploads speed and potentially be more reliable than the antenna pointed out of tower miles away that can be impacted by a number of things. Not that Starlink is foolproof and guaranteed to be the best option, but is just a thought that maybe it could work here for you. Anyway, I know that coax typically has a limit on how far the signal can reach from the trunk line to pedestals and into the house or wherever the termination point is. You can remedy that by having amplifiers installed to boost the signal and give you a longer reach. That's likely what's happening in your situation here. For the longer lengths like what you're doing here, fiber is the better choice however it's also much more expensive. Something you might want to keep in mind if you experience issues down the road.

    • @deepspacecow2644
      @deepspacecow2644 Před 4 měsíci

      The fiber would likely be cheaper than the coax, and they probably get better internet off of the tower for cheaper than what starlink can provide. Its still a wireless connection, just that the tower is alot closer and directly linked to fiber.

    • @ingresswizard9044
      @ingresswizard9044 Před 4 měsíci

      @@deepspacecow2644 Starlink is like $100/month and has better speeds. It's is crazy Brent doesn't have it there yet as that is exactly what it is designed for.

  • @refurbansuburban
    @refurbansuburban Před 4 měsíci +1

    Incredible news! You have made my day.

  • @MaraldBes
    @MaraldBes Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great job, although I would have gone for 150 ft cable and a router on each level with power over internet. And just patch on, then you have wifi on each level, and multiple places to check if you have a cable break.

  • @leighannlewis9808
    @leighannlewis9808 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Another goal reached. So proud of you!❤

  • @patchmack4469
    @patchmack4469 Před 4 měsíci

    that's so cool Brent - and can't wait to see you do some needed house keeping down below, give the place a little tidy up and clean - it would be a cool thing to do an inventory of timber etc you might be able to bring from some of the less accessible places back to build some cosy underground cabin with all the trimmings

  • @paultonkawright2179
    @paultonkawright2179 Před 4 měsíci

    well done Brent,glad things are going well bro. stay safe buddy x

  • @Triumphist
    @Triumphist Před 4 měsíci +57

    I'd love to see an LTT crossover with this!

  • @jackconnolly08
    @jackconnolly08 Před 4 měsíci +5

    As a Network Engineering student, I initially pictured single mode fiber to get all that way down, but Brent's coax choice in Cerro Gordo makes so much sense for cost and historical vibe, its great to see implimentation of networking in this setting and has certainly inspired some things i can do in my theoretical network design coursework assignments. Cool video, would be amazing if you did a full breakdown on the networking and utilities in cerro gordo as it would be extremely interesting to see networking in a setting such as cerro gordo(coming from someone in a city in the uk, its practically all fiber here i mean im not complaining but not many fun networking stuff to spot)

    • @TheForgottenWolf
      @TheForgottenWolf Před 4 měsíci

      The problem is that its a mine. Coax is much more durable than fiber and would handle abuse much more safely. With fiber, if you just bend it too much it can be compromised. Coax? As long as that wire isn't completely severed, you can still send a signal over it.

  • @Roe-Roe59
    @Roe-Roe59 Před 4 měsíci

    Always great to see you Brett

  • @randm4178
    @randm4178 Před 4 měsíci

    That's absolutely spectacular. Congratulations on getting your Wi-Fi up and running. 🥳👍

  • @mausball
    @mausball Před 4 měsíci +11

    Should have used fiber. Even high quality RG6 is only good for about 350' with MOCA. OM3 can go tens of kilometers, and 1GB SFP modules are stupid cheap.

  • @BushidoPhoto
    @BushidoPhoto Před 4 měsíci +3

    Man, I'm so proud of you! I have skills to run internet, wifi and electricity and wish I lived closer to help you in person. I will visit Cerro Gordo someday.

  • @OpCode90
    @OpCode90 Před 4 měsíci

    Awesome news, Brent! Now you can setup Live infrared Cerro Gordo mining ghost cams. 😉 I'll be out that way one day and will stop by. I love what you've been doing and thank you for bringing us along with you.

  • @Smokintothemoon58
    @Smokintothemoon58 Před 4 měsíci

    Hey there Brent.. Wow!!! Internet and soon all the comforts of home. Enjoy live streaming! John & Catherine Tacoma, WA

  • @enzycal
    @enzycal Před 4 měsíci +12

    I think using COAX was a mistake.

    • @dievas_
      @dievas_ Před 4 měsíci

      I think you are mistake.

    • @enzycal
      @enzycal Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@dievas_ Did your extra chromosome express itself too hard when you made that comment?

    • @dievas_
      @dievas_ Před 4 měsíci

      @@enzycal your mother agreed with me while we were having coitus, you are in fact a mistake.

    • @ingresswizard9044
      @ingresswizard9044 Před 4 měsíci

      Big time. This network/IT guy is clueless. SHould have been Fiber all the way and they should be using Starlink for internet.

  • @tomcrocker
    @tomcrocker Před 4 měsíci +3

    You should put a UPS Backup on all the equipment in the hoist house!

  • @steveknoblock5785
    @steveknoblock5785 Před 4 měsíci

    That is awesome Brent, well done

  • @donnaosuch5210
    @donnaosuch5210 Před 4 měsíci

    Congratulations 🎉🎉 I've been watching you for years Donna from Huntington Beach 🎉❤😊

  • @ShOtZzFiNeSt
    @ShOtZzFiNeSt Před 4 měsíci +8

    defo would have recomended fiber. can reach up to 120km on a single mode fiber no problems

    • @dievas_
      @dievas_ Před 4 měsíci +1

      If you pay for it and replacing it every few months, sure...

    • @deepspacecow2644
      @deepspacecow2644 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@dievas_ Why would it need frequent replacing? Use armored cable, and SMF is very cheap.

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Před 4 měsíci +1

      @dievas1 Replace fiber every few months? LOL Our country is still using fiber installed like in 1960's

    • @gravefrightn5720
      @gravefrightn5720 Před 2 měsíci

      Now you know how the trans Atlantic communication cables work. Cables connecting each nation under the ocean by wired land line communications to land, to towers for a wireless signal. Ps. Sattelites dont exist. Never have.

  • @silverspikeprospecting
    @silverspikeprospecting Před 4 měsíci +5

    Nice work!

  • @robertdoell4321
    @robertdoell4321 Před 4 měsíci

    Congrats on your amazing accomplishments.

  • @ActionAdventureTwins
    @ActionAdventureTwins Před 4 měsíci

    YESS you did it! We had this idea bouncing around for a while now haha

  • @marcvena2050
    @marcvena2050 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Congratulations, Brent! It's so great to see these triumphs after so many set backs. Keep going!

  • @drizztcat1
    @drizztcat1 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I'd pay a couple bucks a month to have access to a real-time live feed of the 900 level of the mine.

    • @ThingsMadeOfOtherThings
      @ThingsMadeOfOtherThings Před 4 měsíci +2

      there's a neat idea!

    • @Taliesin6
      @Taliesin6 Před 4 měsíci

      that and some environment sensors!

    • @gravefrightn5720
      @gravefrightn5720 Před 2 měsíci

      Now you know how the trans Atlantic communication cables work. Cables connecting each nation under the ocean by wired land line communications to land, to towers for a wireless signal. Ps. Sattelites dont exist. Never have.

  • @bradrick2513
    @bradrick2513 Před 4 měsíci

    Keep going man can't wait to see what's next

  • @phatdaddy1955
    @phatdaddy1955 Před 4 měsíci

    Spectacular! Way to go Brent!

  • @DN-el2mx
    @DN-el2mx Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great safety improvement. Have you ever done Radon tests?

    • @tombayless9759
      @tombayless9759 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Is that the same as emp meter for checking the radiation

  • @GeorgeChar95
    @GeorgeChar95 Před 4 měsíci +4

    That's pretty impressive! Well done Brent!

  • @grumbo39
    @grumbo39 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Well done mate, you are doing some seriously incredible stuff with that old town. Your countrymen would do well to follow your example and become so inventive!! ;)

  • @JonBooks
    @JonBooks Před 4 měsíci

    Keep Up the Great Videos! Thank You for Sharing!

  • @RobHellfire666
    @RobHellfire666 Před 4 měsíci +4

    @Brent, Would you consider starlink?? 😎

  • @austinreeves5221
    @austinreeves5221 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Use fiber. They have the same type of converter

    • @austinreeves5221
      @austinreeves5221 Před 4 měsíci

      you can order a 1000 foot fiber with the ends pre terminated

  • @goldpan12345
    @goldpan12345 Před 4 měsíci

    Fantastic Bret, can't wait till next video.

  • @sandyback4665
    @sandyback4665 Před 4 měsíci

    You have come so far. Keep up the great work.

  • @falsernet
    @falsernet Před 4 měsíci +4

    This could be the deepest WiFi access point in the world. Can't find info about anything deeper except undersea cables

  • @namedeleted5945
    @namedeleted5945 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Thought there was already wi-fi down there 😂🎉

  • @lisaschneider591
    @lisaschneider591 Před 4 měsíci

    Congratulations, Brent!!! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @somelikeithot444
    @somelikeithot444 Před 4 měsíci

    AWESOME DAY BRENT!CONGRATULATIONS 😊

  • @peterpersson7500
    @peterpersson7500 Před 4 měsíci +8

    when you are down in the mine always carry a battery bank in your pocket so you can charge your mobile phone and other things in case they crash. in this way, you can have long contact in the event of an accident.