Who is Hunayn ibn Ishaq from Assassin's Creed Mirage?
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- The new game Assassin's Creed Mirage takes place in 9th century Baghdad and includes some really important and interesting historical figures. In this short video, we explore one of these - Hunayn ibn Ishaq, and his massive constribution to philosophy and science.
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My kid made me buy this game for him, but in fact, I bought it for myself. Now he plays it and enjoys the story and its scenery from a historical perspective.
Highjacking your comment because it is on top...
The translator " and Dr.Sina'' may represent your the golden era.!
We have Dr.Gordon,fictitious like your translator. But there was a Champolion.(french, sorry about that)And I wonder about your take on current events in the Holly Land.and why " ibn" is not used .
Hurry up, you know my sentiment:
TO THE PYRE,INFIDEL!
VIVA CRISTO,REY!
Before you buy the game, The truth about AC from a Islamic perspective: Assasins were "Nizaris Ismailis" a Shia sect and were enimies of Fatimids and Abbasids and most scholors in books refered them to Qarmatians or Batiniyya. These assasains killed many orthodox sunnis scholars in the name of justice but it was deviant Sect, unanimoulsy agreed by majority of muslims even the twelvers shites.
@@ieatcelery The game doesn't go by a historically accurate perspective. It's fictional.
la ilaha illa ALLAH@@pepepepito623
You’ll enjoy all Assassins creed games
A let’s talk religion gameplay walkthrough of assassins creed would be coool!!
Growing up in Iraq, I've known about the big history of the country but never got to see it due to wars and such. Now living in the US, this game was a way for me to travel back and witness what life was like for my forefathers. I was waiting for you to also look into the game as you mentioned before that it interest you. Even better, we got a history video of this important figure and the golden days of Baghdad. Thank you!
But you feel safe and enjoying life now ...are you not?
may god bless and protect Iraq, that land is a treasure to humanity with very intelligent and kind people
@@pepepepito623 of course! Although things are seemingly heading in the wrong direction, still the best.
@galacticweirdo2438 thank you my friend. God bless you and your family. Wherever you are from must be great as it sprouted a beautiful person like yourself.
@@Atroll995 thanks🤍 I'm from Algeria, I really hope Iraq turns great as it was in the Islamic golden age, it was the source of knowledge and the destination of every knowledge seeker
i gave a school presentation over a year abt the islamic golden age and nearly a fifth of that presentation was about the translation movement n hunayn in particular
he was also called the sheikh/mater of the translators
so yeah as a fan of the franchise i think it’s cool to see them showing such a character i haven’t played the game yet but i think ill enjoy trying it even tho i usually hate on every new game that came out after syndicate
Filip - not sure if you've heard about/ seen it mentioned but Crusader Kings 3 is getting an expansion focussed on the Iranian Intermezzo! Would love to see some of your content focussing on the religious climate/ struggles at the time!
It should have been ck2 getting it...
The Abassid Golden Age has got to be my favourite historical era
Can you please make a video on nestorianism. It'll be interesting to learn about one of the earliest Christians.
I've been meaning to for a while.
Wow this is a video game? Crazy how beautiful it has gotten. I’m happy they are bringing these stories to live in this way
3:56 Assassin's Creed has always been a great game to visit the past, be it the Renaissance, Americas, Greece, Egypt and so on. There's always some key historical figures in each game, some newer games even have a "historical tour" mode.
Im ao glad this channel exists
Me too !
thank you for this, as someone from Baghdad this makes me happy to know how great my city was and how amazing my grandfathers were, I wish only if me and my generation could even be half as great as them
they will after neo imperialism is done with and each individual takes it upon themselves to read and learn its not that hard just be active, brave and honest
I just finished playing the game and I want to replay it as I enjoyed the combat but didn't get a chance to admire the beautiful knowledge side of it but I'm loving your videos on it! Thank you please make more! ♥
While playing the game I was very excited and I felt it would be even more exciting to you with your deep knowledge of the time period if you have played it
Love it!
Fantastic, thank you for your work.
Hey there, I’ve been following your channel for a while now and as expected, love all of your videos! Was wondering if you could make a vid on the forbidden library of black magic books beneath King Solomon’s throne, it seems like a really ambiguous and unexplored topic…
I’m so glad you cover this game too
Baghdadi here, :) can't wait to play it
Hey bro don't get your hopes up i've heard this game sucks
🏆 Thank you. I am a life long gamer & love historically framed games. Not a fan of religion at all but it is essential to learn about them & teach tolerance.
Thank you,Filip.⭐🌹⭐
Strong character Assassin's Creed Mirage. 🎉
I loved this game. A little short but still a fun game.
I've never played this game, but have been listening to the "Mirage" tracks for weeks, and now this pops up!
Thank you for making my lunch a bit more enjoyable.
Abbasid scholars and thinkers didn't just translate the greek works into arabic books but into various inventions that were blueprints of many inventions of the modern day. Hope knowledge and science become as sought after as it was back then sometime soon
love the background music as well
Thank you! Glad to hear that!
You should do a video on the arab christian apologist Abd al-Masih ibn Ishaq al-Kindi. His name is oddly similar but he has a book the so call Apology of Al Kindy which is very interesting.
Please do more of this game
I’m a big fan of your channel! Could you make a video on Khalil Gibran and his book “the prophet” and some of his other philosophical works? How it ties to his disdain for the Christian priests he was raised around? Thank you!
Can you make a video on the events that led to the calamity of Karbala? And how it's ripple effects are visible till today? Thanks!
Al-Jahiz is also in it would be cool to see a short video about him too
Might be working on one already..
@@LetsTalkReligion 😃
imagine if he covers the debate between the femboys and concubines lmao
@@jaif7327what is that?
Can you make a video on the mu'tazila?
This is very interesting, would be nice if they set a game in Slavic or Indic regions.
First of all i loved the video. lots of info, thank you.
About the hadith "Seek knowledge, even if you had to go to China" is very week and should not be directly linked to the prophet. But here is a quranic verse and 2 hadiths about seeking knowledge that are 'sahih' (correct in chain of narration).
1- sura 58 verse 11 "Allah will raise those who have believed among you and those who were given knowledge, by degrees."
2- "Seeking knowledge is a duty upon every Muslim..." Sunan Ibn Majah 224
3- "He who follows a path in quest of knowledge, Allah will make the path of Jannah easy to him. The angels lower their wings over the seeker of knowledge, being pleased with what he does. The inhabitants of the heavens and the earth and even the fish in the depth of the oceans seek forgiveness for him. The superiority of the learned man over the devout worshipper is like that of the full moon to the rest of the stars (i.e., in brightness). The learned are the heirs of the Prophets who bequeath neither dinar nor dirham but only that of knowledge; and he who acquires it, has in fact acquired an abundant portion." Riyad as-Salihin 1388.
and many more
W game
gotta love the cat in Hunayns place
2:45 there's a lot of Compasses and Squares on that table, there's a lot of that in A Creed too, maybe you could do a video on Freemasonry one day
😂😂😂😂
That is a Voynich manuscript! Awesome.
Amazing game literally ❤
Interesting.
May Allah forgive us all and grant us all Jannatul-Firdaus. Ameen
sometimes a short video is all u need
I've been consumed by this game...I can be in it for hours at a time
9th century Islam is so amazing
I’m an Iraqi and I was debating with someone who claims that Christians were oppressed under the Abbasid’s rule, I gave Hunayn as an example.
Definitely going to send this to him.
Thank you for shining a light on our history.
now we need a lets play walkthrough lol
While the Mongols did rebuild Baghdad, they can never rebuild the House of Wisdom or fill it with all known books of knowledge again, let alone seeing the discussion among the scholars in it.
But historically assassin name is mainly connected to Alamut and Ismaili Hujjat ul Imam Hassan Ibn Sabbah
Damn, now I wanna buy the game because I heard him speak arabic and it's really interesting to play a game where you actually understand the language 😂
Please please please cover the sufi order of mir sayyid ali hamdani please
In islam narrating from the prophet Peace be upon him has its rules and regulations. With regard to the hadeeth mentioned, “Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China, for seeking knowledge is a duty on every Muslim,” Shaykh al-Albaani said in Da’eef al-Jaami’: “(It is) fabricated.” (no. 906). Basically it means that this hadith is not said by Muhammad the Prophet peace be upon him.
That is why Islam is currently in a dark age and have gone backwards
@@LK-em1bv Actually this is the reason islam was in golden age. Because of the scholars refuting anyone who introduces anything invented into the religion! Thats why all other religions are corrupted because they dont have the narrators to bring it back to us. Ahadith And Quran are all narrations narrated/recited from close disciples to all the way back to us! Ofcoure there will be liars amongst these narrators! Who will know them? The other trustworthy ones/scholars!
Hey Filip, just a minor correction, if I remember correctly the travel to China Hadith is a weak narration.
That doesn't really make a difference, though?
@@LetsTalkReligion yes bcuz many different verses in Quran and Ahadith push ppl to learn
Philosophy and video games?!?!?! ❤❤❤
Thanks!
Thank you!
Can I get the references for that quote from the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him?
the hadith "Seek knowledge, even if you had to go to China" is very week and should not be directly linked to the prophet. But here is a quranic verse and 2 hadiths about seeking knowledge that are 'sahih' (correct in chain of narration).
1- sura 58 verse 11 "Allah will raise those who have believed among you and those who were given knowledge, by degrees."
2- "Seeking knowledge is a duty upon every Muslim..." Sunan Ibn Majah 224
3- "He who follows a path in quest of knowledge, Allah will make the path of Jannah easy to him. The angels lower their wings over the seeker of knowledge, being pleased with what he does. The inhabitants of the heavens and the earth and even the fish in the depth of the oceans seek forgiveness for him. The superiority of the learned man over the devout worshipper is like that of the full moon to the rest of the stars (i.e., in brightness). The learned are the heirs of the Prophets who bequeath neither dinar nor dirham but only that of knowledge; and he who acquires it, has in fact acquired an abundant portion." Riyad as-Salihin 1388.
and many more
By the way, the "seek knowledge even if you have to go to China" is a fabricated modern hadith.
“Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China, for seeking knowledge is a duty on every Muslim,” Shaykh al-Albaani said in Da’eef al-Jaami’: “(It is) fabricated.” (no. 906).
Irrelevant
@@LetsTalkReligion You attributed words to the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) which he did not actually say so it is very relevant. Typical behaviour of a western ignorant and arrogant orientalist.
@@abuabdirrahmanmalik This video is not about what the prophet said but about what the Muslims believed he said and how they behaved as a result. So no, it is not relevant for this video. I am not a hadith scholar, and the truths of religious claims are outside of my academic interest, only people and how they interact with those truth claims.
Ibn Ishaq is the one that collected the seerah I believe.
That’s another ibn Ishaq.
Do you play games like this? Asking sincerely.
I do play video games occasionally, yes.
@@LetsTalkReligionwill you stream some game and make commentary about the faith in the game?
DThe truth about AC from a Islamic perspective: Assasins were "Nizaris Ismailis" a Shia sect and were enimies of Fatimids and Abbasids and most scholors in books refered them to Qarmatians or Batiniyya. These assasains killed many orthodox sunnis scholars in the name of justice but it was deviant Sect, unanimoulsy agreed by majority of muslims even the twelvers shites.
Already made a full video about that: czcams.com/video/p2_GruwC3UE/video.html
And a full video about the Isma'ilis: czcams.com/video/CFm03oac9es/video.html
Your assessment of the Ismai'ilis is somewhat simplified, so I recomend watching the videos.
Hassanins (Hassan) means Guardians and not Murderers.
The Hassanins where Guardians of the Christian Fate. El Hik Ma.
Look the Indian Tribe MiqMak and their flag and what it means
He's speaking about the term assassins that is believed to have derived from hashashins.
Hashashins means who smoke hashish!!
Exactly the West want to make them look evil, so they say its means murderer and hasish smokers.
It means Guardians of the Faith
@@skepticalzostrianos9875So? Moorisch knight says its derived from Hassanins meaning Guardians, there are a lot of Muslims who guard the Christian Church in Bethlehem, go look it up.
Hassanins (Hassan) means Guardians.
Tf u r talking about? Hashashines(حشاشين) comes from hashish(حشيش) cuz they used to smoke it in their Prayers. Al-Hikma is a pure Arabic word, bayet Al-Hikma means house of wisdom
Fil, I think 💬 you were an Arab Muslim in another life!
Reading the comments ,wondering the ages and intelligence of your viewers, for what i understood: a game about an assassin...
I had to know about Islam
More from you,
By my own Scholars/Mullas
1:12
The Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, did not say that specifically. He encouraged the pursuit of knowledge, but he did not say that hadith.
The Houses of Wisdoms were first universities. Europe was at that time backward and it was Islam that produced new ideas, which entered Europe in Renessanse.
“Europe was backward” and yet this so called “Islamic Golden Age” was the result of Christians translating European science and philosophy from European languages into a language (Arabic) that had up until then NO science or philosophy.
The universities of Oxford and Bologna were founded 900 years ago and remain major centers of learning and civilization. What major centers of learning are there in the Islamic world? (Besides theological schools like Al Azhar that have never contributed to human civilization as a whole).
@@TheMonkeyking555 And so was the renaissance the product of a big compaign of translation of arabic books into latin by arabs living in muslim lands who recently had come under Christian rule. If you want to do a research about nuclear fusion, you won't start your research from scratch. You won't start by re-inventing numbers, algebra, physical constants, formulas, etc. You'll continue where other scholars or scientists stopped. Thats how science research is done.
Should I remind you that the Al-Qarawiyyin is the world’s oldest, continually operating university who was founded by a Muslim woman and is still a major centers of learning? In case you're not familiar with history, Al-Qarawiyyin had taught several well-known philosophers and scholars (not-necessarily muslim) like: Maimonides, Ibn Arabi, Ibn Khaldun, Leo Africanus, Imam al-Bannani, Ahmad ibn Idris, etc.
Al-Qarawiyyin is a major learning center for Maliki fiqh, whereas lets say the university of madina is of hanbali/wahhabi fiqh.
@@TheMonkeyking555Christianity is not necessarily western, especially nestorian
@@harambesson1098
You’re correct, Christianity wasn’t “Western” but that dichotomy didn’t fully exist in what was then a politically and (somewhat) culturally United Mediterranean world under the Roman Empire.
It was really the Islamic conquests that severed the Mediterranean world into competing (East vs. West and North vs. South) political-cultural zones.
It’s also true about the Nestorians as they developed largely within Sassanid Persia. That said, Christianity as a religion (and this includes the Nestorians) largely developed out of and within a Greek speaking cultural milieu far more so than it did within the Syriac speaking world. The Nestorians ultimately relied on Greek translations into Syriac and upheld council of Nicaea even though the churches under Persian rule did not participate in it. Many of the Church fathers had a Classical Greek (pagan) education and were very much impacted by the Greek philosophical and especially Neoplatonic tradition (Christ as “Logos”) far more than can be said about Zurvanite Zoroastrianism.
It was the fact that these later Nestorian Christians were so deeply familiar with the Greek language and Greek philosophy that enabled them to make these translations into Arabic.
So, no the Nestorians were primarily not “Western” as those political and cultural connections had become somewhat severed by the schism and Islamic conquests, but it was their understanding of a Western language and philosophy that made them so important.
@@TheMonkeyking555 thanks for the clarification
Filip have you played the game? I'm very curious.
Yes. Haven't finished it yet though
@@LetsTalkReligion It would be amazing if you could do a video about your impressions of the game after you finish it.
@@LetsTalkReligion I want to complete the story but it's such a rich and vibrant world I just roam around listening to the language and oh my gosh I LOVE hearing the Adhan.
1:12 This hadeeth is widely believed to be fabricated
It's a video game 🎮
Yes
The saying, "Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China", is fabricated, it is not an authentic saying of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
Please Answer me If I am Wrong !
Walad"uuuun Rasool Allahi ?? No , A Boy Not Rasool of Allah ,
Mount-Sinai = Mh-Sinai"uuuuun Rasool Allahi ?? Yes -- A Mh-Sinai Rasool of Allah ,
Muslim"uuuun Rasool Allahi ?? Yes , A Muslim Rasool of Allah ,
Maaaad"uuuun Rasool Allahi ?? Yea , A Maaaadi Rasool of Allah ,
Ahad-maaaad = Ahmaaaad"uuuun Rasool Allahi ?? Yes , An Ahmaaad Rasool of Allah ,
Mount-maaaad = Mh-maaaad"uuuuun Rasool Allahi ?? Yes , A Mh-maaaad Rasool of Allah ,
Muhammad"uuuuun Rasool Allahi , ?? Yes , A Muhammad Rasool of Allah ,
Indeed -- In this Point -- Muhammad"uuuun or Mh-maaaad"uuuuun Meaning A Title of the prophets --
.And Meaning of Maaaad See -- Holy Quran Surah No-28 , Iaaat No-85 , What Quran Says -
Mount-maaaad = Mh-maaaad , Mh-maaaad"uuuun ,
Ahad-maaaad = Ahmaaaad , Ahmaaaad"uuuun ,
Imam-maaaad , Imam-maaaad"uuuun , Imam-maaaadi ,
Indeed-- Maaad is a Title of the Prophets Too --
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sorry but our prophet didnt say that
Did the people at the time know this?
It is weak hadith
There is no doubt that the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, encouraged us to learn science in various fields, but the hadith that you mentioned (seek knowledge, even in China) is a lie to the Prophet and he did not say it, so please make sure in the coming times, especially when the matter is related to our religion.
The truth about AC from a muslims perspective. Assasins were Nizaris Ismailis a Shia sect and were enimies of Fatimids and Abbasids and most scholors in books refered them to Qarmatians or Batiniyya. These assasains killed many orthodox sunnis scholars in the name of justice but it was deviant Sect, unanimoulsy agreed my majority of muslims even the twelvers shites.
It's actually very nice that they didn't made up stuff, but used the real historical character for the story. P.S. Some of the commentators are absolutely worst thing ever
Yes, the Assassin's Creed games are usually very good with their historical accuracy, which is why I was very excited for this one.
Why is that "so-called"??? It was really one of the time of golden age...
You can use "so-called" to designate something as something.
It doesn't necessarily mean it's wrongly called that, although this is how the word is commonly used.
I think Filip doesn't mean to say it's wringky called "Golden Age of Islam".
Too much use of SO CALLED
1:15 Muhammad never said that. That fake hadith.
Wow a Christian was the most important translator during that time. Shows how accepting Muslims were. I think it's cool
Apart from hunayn, there were also other christian translators such as, qusta ibn luqa, yahya ibn adi, & ibn al batriq of alexandria. They knew greek & syriac languages, that's why they were employed as translator
They were mutazilites, known as being too liberal by today's Muslim standard in methodology and is considered heretical
You are spreading a interfaith you are Among a disbeliever
98:6) Those who disbelieved - be they from among the People of the Book or among those who associated others with Allah in His Divinity- shall be in the Fire, and will abide in it. They are the worst of creatures. 8. Disbelieved: Refused to acknowledge the ProphetMuhammad (peace be upon him) as Allah's Messenger.
Great video, but AC Mirage is such a disappointing game. In story, gameplay, and graphics.
I disagree (with the exception of the story)
The guy was christian, but you said "if it was not for the muslims.."
Yea because he lived under the Muslim world and Arab culture
@@harambesson1098Not to mention ibn Ishaq was by far not the most important or by far the first Arab geek as the western narrator claims.
@@IStevenSeagal westren narrators claim what they want. They even claimed Apollodorus of Damascus
Yes, primarily discussing the later thinkers that were directly translated into latin and made their way into European philosophy, such as Ibn Sina and Ibn Rushd. But you are right in pointing out that not all scholars from this region at the time were Muslim. To be nuanced, it would have perhaps been better to use the term "Islamicate"rather than Muslim.
@@phoenixk4328western moral and civilization is corrupt and hypocritical, look at what they are doing to Gaza, savages
You speak of Assassins Creed and it’s historical accuracy with the characters having the Voynich manuscript. One of the great fakes of history.😔
Assassin's Creed Mirage is Orientalist crap that should not be covered on such a high quality channel such as yours.
No
Free palestine 🇵🇸
What does that has to do with this
Doesn't matter its more important
The narration of the prophet peace be upon him saying to seek knowledge even onto China is at best a weak narration and at worst fabricated. The more authentic famous narration of the prophet to do with knowledge is “the seeking of knowledge is an obligation on every Muslim”
Are you aware that you are disguising thousands of years of Iranian civilization’s knowledge base as Arabic or Islamic? Even language including Arabic has Iranian roots both in its grammar which was created by Sibouye an Iranian scholar and in its philological roots. Ancient Avesta is oldest language to date deciphered. It is older than Sanskrit. Now in the past thirty years a more ancient language has been discovered in the vast archeological site of Jiroft etc in current remaining portion of “Iran”.
I am an Arab, and it bothers me how they make Islamic civilization and the Middle East only associated with Arabs. The best example of this is the stories of One Thousand and One Nights, or the so-called Arabian Nights. The truth is that it is not Arabic. It is sad that people think that anything in the Middle East is of Arab origin and they leave the peoples of the afterlife who had achievements in the Middle East region and in the era of Islam.
Ah yes, special Olympic of the "which historical person belongs to which modern nation". It's speaks more about your insecurities than about real history.
this is not true Arabic don't have any Iranian roots they r different. It is the other way around, Persian language who has Arabic roots, vocabulary and poetry techniques + the Iranian civilization got carried by Indians and Iraqis they didn't do much scientifically. Sibawye believed that Arabs and superior to other races an some believe he is Arab bcuz of that.
@@phoenixk4328 No people are actually superior to another, and you know it.
@@aerodynamism5438 he is talking like he is Superior you needed to tell him that not me
And who cares?
So far - about 13,000 pepole
Nestorianisn isn’t christian. Its a heresy. He was part of a cult.
Jesus would consider every single Christian denomination existing today, to be a cult. He didn't preach Protestantism, Catholicism, or Anglicism.
cult???? heresy??! the council of chalcedon isn’t god’s word
What's the point of your channel if you cannot even sympathize wiythe 4000 children killed in gaza and the many more injury?
What's the point of mysticism if it rips you from your humanity and compassion?
I love when my interests blend 🫡
Ah, see that? Western exceptionalism throwing a hissy fit.
his mother
I'm almost done with the game and I'm glad I didn't pay full price. I love this video though.
Nestorian is a pejorative term for the Assyrian Church of the East. Please don’t advance that term. If he was a member of that church, he was an ethnic Assyrian. Do not erase his ethnicity.