If The Logline Doesn't Work The Story Doesn't Work - Jen Grisanti
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International speaker Jen Grisanti is an acclaimed Story/Career Consultant at Jen Grisanti Inc., a 13-year Writing Instructor for Writers on the Verge at NBC, and a former 12-year studio executive, including VP of Current Programming at CBS/Paramount. Jen is the author of three books, Story Line: Finding Gold in Your Life Story, TV Writing Tool Kit: How To Write a Script That Sells, Change Your Story, Change Your Life: A Path To Your Success.
Grisanti started her career in 1992 as an assistant to Aaron Spelling. He served as her mentor for 12 years. She quickly climbed the ranks and eventually ran Current Programs at Spelling Television Inc., covering all Spelling’s shows, including Beverly Hills, 90210, Melrose Place, and Charmed. In 2004, Grisanti was promoted to Vice President of Current Programs at CBS/Paramount, where she covered numerous shows, including Medium, Numbers, NCIS, 4400, and Girlfriends.
In January 2008, Grisanti launched Jen Grisanti Inc., a highly successful consulting firm dedicated to helping talented writers break into the industry. Drawing on her experience as a studio executive, where she gave daily notes to executive producers/showrunners, Grisanti guides writers to shape their material, write from their emotional truth, hone their pitches, and focus their careers.
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To spare you the Google search: "A logline is a one-sentence summary or description of a movie. Loglines distill the important elements of your screenplay-main character, setup, central conflict, antagonist-into a clear, concise teaser."
Thank you. I had already done the search myself, but I felt a little odd that I had to. :)
For us non-screenplay writers- this is the one minute elevator pitch.
Still applicable!
Logline: Character - want - obstacle
[script lab]
question #`1 should be: WTF is a log line???
#thatpart🎉
This channel has videos talking about log lines; what they are and how to create them in their archives. Maybe they will add a link directly to it here.
Just ask chatgpt to create one for you
Those of us who watch for writing but not screenplays agree!
@@sixmclovinkix453 chatgpt took er jerbs
Great interview and insights, thank you.
for people wanting an example logline for one of the greatest tv shows ever:
Nine noble families fight for control over the lands of Westeros, while an ancient enemy returns after being dormant for a millennia.
Jen Grisanti is terrific! Love hearing what she has to say.
6:25 She's got to be referencing Firefly in this story.
"craving depth and authenticity" - Yes!
Loved that line as well. And sprinkle a little bit of humanity and empathy on top.
Log Line is POWERFUL !!
Make or Break stuff!
However, mine has CHANGED throughout my SCREENPLAY👌👍🏻🤔😊😁
Very helpful! Stellar.
This was helpful in polishing my story
Loved the satirical use of loglines in The Player.
Because the logline contains a story's philosophical premise and a film (especially one that represents as a rhetorical argument) cannot be sustained by an untenable philosophical premise.
These Rock!
very useful. appreciated.
Great to hear!
I think it's true. Great video!
Only suggestion I can offer, is before going into you first question, you should have led with a better question: what is a logling? I'm not in industry (yet? been thinking about jumping in and have been doing some writing), so that type of background would really help. As usual, great guest and content and well presented.
A logling is a baby logline?
@@filmcourage Why not answer the question instead of making a cute response to an obvious typo?
@@filmcourage lol 😂 sorry, using my phone
I kid...I kid...having fun! :) But you are right and I appreciate you pointing out that other people are sensitive (we all are and it's okay).
Now, if I remember correctly the question is what is a logline? or why didn't ask "What is a logline?" Both are great points. Since I can't go back in time and ask again, we have a playlist on loglines (buff.ly/3QW0tnM ) and it tells a bit more that I missed (mea culpa). Thank you for pointing this out and have a wonderful rest of your Saturday! Hope you are staying creative.
No worries. Wasn't trying to offend. Just having fun. Totally understand. More of the answer below. Thanks for watching!
What is the difference between a logline and a premise? Anybody?
Longline is a one sentence summary that encapsulates the work. A plot synopsis or premise is something you might read on the back of a DVD sans actors and directors. Brief, but more detailed. A log line should also entice a viewer or reader to want to KNOW MORE about the story.
Example: A team of commandos on a mission in a Central American jungle find themselves hunted by an extraterrestrial warrior.
" I want you as a musician to tell people who don't understand howw to create music, what other famous music you sound like."
(I know this is personally, and it's just an opinion...) But I consider people who have "resistance", to the need of making adjustments in order for their story to work, not actual artists. They are wannabe artists. (I'm not saying that's a bad thing), we need people to want to expand their horizons and exercise their creativity. However if they are not imaginative/creative enough to do so, they still have much to developing inside their mind, even if their heart's in the right place. So therefore, not artist yet.
What’s logline .. I m
Writing a script
Here's an example from the net: "A young man is transported to the past, where he must reunite his parents before he and his future cease to exist.”
Loglines are like teaser trailers for a movie.
The author of 'Shadow Bone' used to write movie promos before she became a best-selling author.
Now she's got a 🔥 Netflix show.
Anime recap channels feature a ton of loglines.
If you cant have a logline then you don't understand your story
I don't agree-
What is a logline?
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@@filmcourage thank you, I really appreciate your channel
Hope that adds more context!
Not a screenwriter., just someone who loves movies. The logline seems reductive, but maybe necessary to sell a film to brain dead studio executives. I don't think that anyone can know whether a film might work based on the logline. But executives want it, and so the game must be played.
My book is a 522 page action-adventure novel about 5 individuals dealing with the aftermath of an asteroid that almost collided with Earth. However, it was destroyed by the United States before it hit -- much to the chagrin of its citizens who welcomed the calamity.
These 5 individuals are far from normal, and their lives are disrupted due to the international upheaval theyre thrusted BACK into; these 5 once belonged to a terrorist organization that no longer technically exists, but only does now because its leader has made the most of its remnants.
Now this leader of this shell of a terrorist organization, who was and is still (TECHNICALLY), the leader of these 5 special individuals - though they hav gone on to live normal lives since the destruction of the organization - wants his members back, to restore his organization back to the powerful, global power it was once.
And that's just the B PLOT....
The A plot is about an alien who fell from the asteroid that looks human but has no memory except of that of a device she has to find before her ex-partner finds it first.
This is pretty much the barebones synopsis of my novel that I took about 3 mins to quickly type... DOES ANYONE WANT TO HELP ME WRITE A LOGLINE BECAUSE IVE BEEN TRYING TO CREATE A SOLID ONE FOR....yup, 6 YEARS NOW.
Sure, I'll take a crack at it.
In order to make ammends for her past mistakes, a woman from another planet who has been living on Earth teams up with five mercenaries to try and find a powerful device...before someone else from her homeworld--someone VERY dangerous--finds it.
@@EricHeidenAuthor Much appreciated crack! This provides invaluable insight for how others may perceive another's work via their synopsis. Since I wrote this comment I actually came up with 3. Mind sharing which you like most?
Five former terrorists must abandoned their reformed lives to help the world heal from an asteroid event / alien threat.
Five former terrorists, now living in peace, are forced to act when a young alien threatens life in modern America.
To save lives, five terrorists must protect the world from an alien invasion and a deceitful government.
I may incorporate some elements that I gleaned from your response. Thanks!
Hey there! All 3 are good, but I liked the middle one the best. However, I would replace "alien" with "extraterrestrial" or "being from an alien world." Otherwise, whoever reads it might think the alien is just an ordinary human from another country.
@@EricHeidenAuthor Good point. Thanks again, Eric!
@@TactileTherapy No prob. Have a great weekend!
I find the logline is MUCH easier if you DON'T try to make it match the story. Literally lie.
lol thanks for the tip 😂
Here we go:
“A micro managing escape room designer realised her client is a Saw-Esque killer when insisting on double checking and gets trapped alongside a bunch of selfish assholes who will kill to get her insider knowledge for themselves.
let me know when the film drops 🔥🔥 i'd definitely watch this
It's like my lit rpg idea:
"An NPC follows a group of PCs to help them defeat the big bad evil guy but realizes he's following a bunch of murder hobos who are even worse. How can an NPC save their world against a plot set in stone with heroes who would rather let the world die."
Why is the interviewer so resistant to loglines? I mean, damn, every question felt like, "But do we HAVE to?!?? 😂😂🤣🤣
Rhetoric is often used with explicit inger to create a platform for the interviewee to make their point.
@@yondie491 I'm just busting her chops. I luv her and this channel, but you gotta admit she was going a little harder than with most of her subjects -- At some point I was expecting her to say, "I mean, what is your problem, Jen?!?"
A good interviewer challenges the interviewees beliefs.
i think she did a great job! we wouldn't have gotten this much information if she'd have taken it easy. i get the point you're trying to make but interviews aren’t a chat, they have a purpose to lift information and make it understandable - log lines seem to be notorious for being elusive to writers, so there was a greater need to dig into it.
@@RussianMusic0212
"but you gotta admit she was going a little harder" ... "At some point I was expecting her to say, "I mean, what is your problem, Jen?!?"""
You... don't seem to understand the point of these interviews. Let me be a little more blunt.
There are confrontational interviews and there are presentational interviews. This is non-confrontational. This is sort of like when sports broadcasters make a list of points to make during a post-game broadcast and the mouthpieces comes up with a list of questions so that the analysts can make their point.
To use American Football terminology... someone wants to make a point that the quarterback fumble in the 3rd quarter was a result of the fact that the backup center has only done long-snapping... you have the interviewer ask the analysis "So... do you think that 3rd quarter fumble was a result of lack of experience of by backup center?"
The interviewer absolutely knows what happened. That's not the point of the question. The point of the question is to give the person answering the questions a jumping off point.
..... because that is what the person answering the question wants.
Nearly all of these answers could have started with "I'm so glad you asked that question, because I've been wanting to make that point and now I get to"
Now... this Q&A wasn't nearly as blatant as all of that. Nor am I saying it was pre-scripted. I believe it absolutely was not. But in terms of intent... it 100% was the PURPOSE of the non-combative interview.
"People are going to ask these questions, so I want to give you the opportunity to pre-empt their questions by giving you a jumping off point to respond"