I Witness an Ancient Phenomenon During an Astronomical Event
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A month ago I found ancient steps carved into solid rock. I climbed them. What I found at the top, and in the canyon as a whole, was extraordinary. I returned during the summer solstice event, to see if the towers might be ancient astronomical markers. What I discovered deepened the mystery.
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You should do an episode where you build your own ancient stone hut out there like the ones you keep finding. That would be really interesting to see from scratch.
There is an app you can get for iPhone, probably android too, called The Photographers Ephemeris. This lets you put a pin on a map anywhere on Earth, for any time, day or night, that lets you see how the light will fall on the land. Not as exciting as seeing it in person, but could help you discover where those shadows fall. Would maybe help you collect beta for your trips as well pal
I live in the four corners area and even have approx. 3 acres of Anasazi ruins on my property. I have visited many ancient ruin locations and have the following questions:
1. I have visited many "granaries" but have never seen a corn cob, or vegetable matter in one of these locations. I have never found pots, baskets nor other storage vessels either. I question whether these unique "granaries" were actually for storing food. Could they be like a religious location like a sipapu or kiva? I have found lots of corn cobs in living locations however I am at a loss as to why I have never seen anything which would indicate these were granaries.
2. Has anyone ever thought about using AI to decipher petroglyphs. I have seen similar petroglyphs in Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado. AI has been used to decipher ancient languages and with the tremendous number of petroglyphs available to study, AI could definitely be helpful. Petroglyphs are similar to the Chinese language (writing) whereby an inscription has meaning, not just a letter in an alphabet. AI has the ability to determine meaning.
@@kentmusgrove5038 i know exactly what these petroglyphs mean and i’m trying to tell the guy and get his attention. please like my comments it might help him notice them
I would love to join Andrew. I've been with you a few videos in but I don't have the money but you are the only one I would, cuz you're worth it. Appeal the decision.
I swear, if youtube starts messing with THE Desery Drifter; we gonna have a big problem. Thank you for creating some of the most interesting and beautiful content around!
Haha. They have their standards to uphold, and overall its a good platform
We all have decisions to make!! Of God, or not!! And divisionists rule this CZcams world that IS TEMPORARY
oh, there's gonna be trouble alright
@@BranMore "Of God, or not!!"
That's about as divisive as it gets bub... with _two_ exclamation points no less
man nothing kills the vibe/mystique of the lone desert explorer like bitching and complaining about "demonetization"....
What? They demonetized that cool video of you going up those steps. CZcams demonetization is getting ridiculous.
What's that mean they won't pay you for it being viewed or is it taken down?
@@Ren505nm Yep! No pay and possible removal. That and not recommending your videos are two of the most painful things that can happen to creators. A ton of work and time goes into making good videos, and decent equipment doesn't come cheap either.
GETTING! Already there...
@@jim7634 Yes, you are right.
I really enjoy these videos. Who decrees this holier than thou to determine what I watch?
I'm 81 and housebound with a husband on hospice. I'm not saying that for sympathy only to let you know how much your adventures mean to some of us.
As a desert dweller I can still enjoy the beauty that you show us every trip and I thank you for it.
By the way, I especially enjoyed the one you tube messed with. Sorry about that it was breathtaking.
Honors from Norway
My wife was handicapped for 30 years due to an accident, it was a big event to go anywhere and her entertainment came from media ,her loyal dogs and grandchildren visiting occasionally. It angers me that others are deciding what we should and should not see and listen to, I don't think it's about safety or social norms, I think it's about trying to control our lives .
have you thought about getting VR quest 3 would be a good choice for you. you can then experience this kind of thing directly. its a great way for people that are housebound to have a look around the world in full imersive 3d. it helped me a lot. hope you look into it.
Hugs to you and your husband
I agree absolutely breathtaking and beautiful.
At seventy-seven yrs young, with heart failure, I am no longer able to hike and explore. Through your video experiences, my mind and heart are made more full. Thank you, and don't be discouraged by someone who has never laced up a pair of hiking boots.
I am a 61 year old granny from the UK, I have always been interested in the petroglyphs and the Anasazi or Pueblo natives, your channel is teaching me a lot and as I will never walk where you do it’s a privilege to accompany you.
61 year old granny in the Southwest. I love his channel. It's nice to know that it reaches out to other places.
I share the same sentiment. Your hikes are the only access I have to these amazing places. I also appreciate the reverence and care you demonstrate for these places.
Thank you.
@@1minigrem please like my comment to help this guy see it. i know exactness what the petroglyphs mean and he won’t see my comment because too many people are liking your comment instead… help me out.
Down here in NZ , I'm adding my name to your appreciation society 🙂 Love the channel.
I agree! I’m 83 and love his teachings as we get this beautiful earth views.
I saw the first one, yt mods suck
Mod lives don't matter 😅
Gratitude for all Desert Drifter does 🙏🥰🦋🌈🐞💕
YT mods are commies!
He needs to lodge a complaint since I doubt human mods demonetized this video.
The little petroglyphs look like the 2 towers
I am 71 with liver cancer. I live your adventures vicariously, and love your brave adventures
Sending you some good energy.
Sending you a hug & a prayer
Good energy to you, Be strong, be powerful, hum like nobody cares and lemons by the truckload never hurt anybody.😊 put your hand on your heart and thank it for getting you this far! Every bit counts, high five and everything!
@@ArnoldZiffle-jw2mvI said exactly the same thing when I started watching this, I'm 60 and I have multiple sclerosis that I didn't get till I was in my mid forties, and I had to stop working, I love seeing his videos they take me out of my room, he's a great desert guide, I also live in Florida so it's really cool to see all that❤
61 with cancer but last thing I want to do it make everyone feel bad about it.. try and be strong so you are remembered as strong and not a cry baby. life is not fair but its not youtubers fault .
I am almost 62, live in Italy. Thank you for letting me travel with my mind and wander with you 🤗🤗
Andrew, you are producing some of the best content on youtube . I'm 74 and my days of trekking is in the past. Thank you for taking me along.
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
@cameronchicken8439: You're really good at copy and paste, aren't you!
@@skipperclinton1087 sorry i tried to get his attention on the last video and he never saw it and then i got the notification right when he uploaded this video today so i tried everything to get his attention because he even says in this video that he’s going back a third time so i made a comment and then i commented ten times on my own comment and liked all of my own comments to try to move my comment upwards in relevance so he would see it and some chode comments “moderators suck” and got 200 likes and within minutes my comment got pushed way down so i put it on his own comment which he pinned to the top there’s already 30 other comments in there so then i started going to all the top comments to ask people to like my comment so he would see it and then a couple hours later there’s already different top comments so one guy had a theory so i wrote a new comment and then i just copied and pasted it back to the top comments so hopefully some way he will see it because he is going to go back and he thinks it has something to do with the solace or something he’s completely missing the message. but yes i am commenting a lot on this post because i want him to see it but his last video i basically did the same thing and it got taken down and he even went back there and never saw my post which is really disappointing and i am pretty’s sure i’m onto something that he could further validate and it may lead to other discoveries. i suffer from salt deprivation right so if i go out in the heat i’m likely to have a stroke or a seizure or an aneurysm so o want to pass my idea onto someone if their already willing to do the footwork in order to find out. i think the whole canyon was a passage corridor and the shelter ruins were made for travelers and the petroglyphs are all road signs in code so that their tribe could pass through there safely and that there’s even an ancient road out of there with probably other ruins or things of interest.
@@skipperclinton1087 thank you
Thanks for coming along Russel
Every time we see you uploaded a video, we stop whatever we were watching and click on Desert Drifter!!!
Same here!!😊👍🏻👍🏻💯💯
@@jackofnone9439 yes, here as well!👍👍
Truth!!!
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
@cameronchicken8439: Interesting theory. Thanks for sharing, and that's thinking outside the box.
I'm almost 72 years old and I love your channel. And I did see your first CZcams video about league steps. Please always be careful. And remember safety first.We want to keep you around for a long time
Andrew, having only driven across these United States 5 times in 72 years, I had a goal, too. It was to get to the end, to unpack as I moved into the next living quarters for my next RN job. I have visited the of ... where the Colorado river cared ...oh yes, Grand Canyon. I have visited a few National Parks.
I am now nestled in East Tennessee, retired & no longer caring for others. I have children & grandchildren nearby.
Your desert content is the best way, by far, to stop & visit & ponder... for me. I appreciate your physical skills and goal setting with accomplished goals for each trip.
Thank you for your time, energy, intelligence, and willingness to share with us. I appreciate your purpose driven trips and "wonder"-ings said aloud. Many of us are wondering, too.
Aren't you so glad that You Tube keeps us safe from ourselves. Lol. Thanks again 👍
Unless it's someone mildly famous doing something death defying, then it's all fine 'cause they can never inspire others!
Another great video. Thanks .
They'd have us wear helmets if they could
@@wesley5nipes yes while watching...
More than likely some Karen reported the video.
I saw the first one. I trust your climbing skills.
Hey DD, I'm a full blooded Navajo addicted to your channel. When we were little kids in canyons like the GC. My family live where they're canyons in NM. It brings back memories of the fun & sun times we had exploring in caves& finding art on the rocks from our ancestors. You have an awesome channel. I can't wait to hook your channel onto my bigger TV screen. Keep up the Good work. I will join your Patreon channel too! This demonitizing is just wrong. I don't see anything wrong with your video. Plus, that was a fine climb with foot guides on the arch climbing footage. We did not see that extremely dangerous at all. I'm sure all the Navajo tribal members would agree with me. I love your camping endeavors on the rocks. We loved sleeping on those rock canyons too.
I’m from the south west of England 🏴 and it’s so incredible to me , that there is wood preserved in the desert and old corn 🌽 cobs and remnants of the last fires. I wonder if the last people to live there , knew they were the last of so many ancestors ! It’s so poignant and beautiful ! I’m so glad I found your channel, you are so good at detailing what you see and so very respectful 🙏🏻 thank you 🙏🏻
All jokes aside, one of the best youtube channels.
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
I’ve been watching you about three months and I absolutely love it. I’m 80 years old. I feel so calm and relax. You explain everything so nice. I like when you cook and your adventures are delightful. I love it too much. I will join, but since I don’t know anything aboutcomputers, I’ll have my daughter do it for me. I will continue watching you. I will have a very calming on people. I believe you’re so graceful soft-spoken everything you do is nice.😢❤
Thank you my friend!
I'm English but live in Australia. The amount I know about the American South West would fit on a stamp. Yet I am fascinated by your videos. Great to watch and very informative. Thank you.
Dear Desert Drifter,
The CZcams algorithm brought you to myself and I watched several videos of explorations; however, as a Native American from the IIlwami tribe in California ― I was extremely impressed by your curiosity and your total respect for ancient lands. There's a few hosts that often search the deserts for interesting finds; however, in truth they are "rude, obnoxious, and arrogant" then they will not share their discoveries with we Indigenous Peoples to help determine if the finds correlate with oral traditions.
From what I've gathered, your inquisitiveness is respectful and true to not disturbing the discoveries within the desert archives. Although most local tribe's are suspicious of people who explore their heritage lands, it's sometimes possible to befriend them in a meaningful way, too where they will explain such phenomenons. Natives have explored these lands for thousands and thousands of years although out the deserts territories' for many practicle reasons, such as hunting guides, signs to guide travelers through the desert, as well as locating any significant spiritual connections. Natived did not wander aimlessly when it came to astronomical events, but instead these were venerated for their significance.
Although, the solar alignment didn't correlate with the Summer Solstice, if you look closer, you'll notice the angles are more closely aligned with the two Equinoxes' called the Vernal Equinox (Spring) and the Autumnal Equinox (fall). Both Equinoxes' occur on days when day and night are exactly 12 hours long, and the Sun is directly above the Equator at High Noon. Equinoxes' were especially important, more so than the Solstices', although I'll not discount their importance also, because they are also significant for various reasons.
It appears that you found a "Solar Observatory" in my opinion, even if, the alignment might be off by a few degrees, taking into account the North Pole shifts in cycles due to Earth's Global Wobble. Conventional systems of study quite continually discount Indigenous Peoples resourcefulness, as well as our understanding of Geometry. You'll discover that there are multiple mathematical concepts through various alignments through out these desert planes.
Conventional University's: Archeologists, Astronomers, Geologists, Sociologists, Anthropologists, Mathematic Experts ― All have conclusions which are merely explored on the surface; but, not as an entire systemology as all Native Americans think, believe and do with respect to the land. Our religion takes the entire view into account, not merely simple alignments. I often must explain the only other culture which thinks in the same terms are in Japanese Shintoism's World View of Universes' within more Universes' to the infinite. The Infinite can become as large as "Macro as the Galaxy" turning ― The converse is equally applicable as the 'Micro is a reflection of the Macro", into smaller and smaller Universes.
This is something you'll never find in any book or on any map; however, your on the road to discovery. I wondering, if there, are any other places you might explore with great your great care and reverence of the desert lands when requested?
My name is "Raven Shadow" and I guard all points, regarding my culture everywhere within the United States. I'm a voting member of the National Congress of the American Indian (NCIA) in Washington DC; a member in good standing as a 32° Degree of the venerated Egyptian Rosicrucian Order; obtained several Higher Education Diplomas from the top Institutes of Architecture; my blood family lineage was partially responsible for the "Overtaking of Alcatraz Island in 1969"; although educated in Architecture, my explorations include "A Photographic Study of Petroglyphic Art and Cultural Communications" (especially those within Chaco Canyon) which resemble Egyptian Hieroglyphics'. The United States Government has historically through the Smithsonian Institute, purposefully destroyed any significant finding that might prove any Cross-Atlantic contacts.
This was done (continuing in covert operations to this day) to affirm the Christopher Columbus route supporting the explanation of Westward expansion, so as to 'not' validate any prior Native American Land Claims.
Would you be interested in a coventure?
With Respects,
Raven Shadow
While the summer solstice is an important solar marker, if you have time to go back during the autumnal equinox, you might find more interesting shadows in that canyon.
Another possibility is trying to align dates of known comets passing overhead. We've created so much light pollution that we tend to forget that the ancients had a perfect view of the milky way.
True, the Equinox would be a good time to double-back) But I must point out, the problem with the Equinox is that it is 'fuzzy'. Solstices are the same for everyone globally, regardless of location. What is currently called the 'Equinox' is a bit of an oversight; it is better referred to as the Fall or Spring 'Quarter'. The Equinox is much bigger than just one day; it is an amazing thing and actually takes about 50 days to sweep the Earth. By 'equinox' I mean when night and day are of equal length. When it actually occurs depends on location, Longitude and Latitude. Latitude determines which day it occurs while Longitude affects AM or PM. These variations make it 'fuzzy'. It would be cool to find when it occurs for this location in the canyon and see if that's the day the ancients observed, too)
@@Elf_Hour
I was thinking other important dates; dates for planting corn, or harvesting corn, or seasonal migration of bighorn sheep…
Maybe it's a time machine?
I do know that for Anasazi living on the flats had like a weird communication thru the fireplace and a trail used by that or something like that! My late father was born 1912 n told us a lot about them but of course I wasn't paying attention.@@cameronchicken8439
Yes, I was thinking the fall equinox would be a good time to venture back
I am glad I saw the first video, I am sorry they demonitized you! I appreciate your videos as I live vicariously through them!
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
When I was exploring and found something extraordinary I didn't want anybody to find it so I got ready to do something no one else has ever done planted Cactus on the trail and made the trail look like it went around the cactus to guide people away from what I found and over the years it worked and I was successful at what I did and the cactus there today still stands I smiled I said thank God I don't think anybody's going to find it and that to me is okay I mean my 60s now I did it when I was 32 and I don't think anyone has ever found what I found and I hope they never do not even you thank you for the video you do bring back a lot of memories of what I used to do as a young man so thank you you'll be safe out there cuz it's a dangerous place to be maybe even carry a weapon for your protection there's a place in heaven for you thank you so much for what you do❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉😂
what did you find?
Number 1: I find this one of best channels on You Tube. No.2: I can't believe You Tube would limit any of your content. Granted...you're a little crazy...but obviously an experienced canyoneer. Watched you climbing into the slot canyon with your wife. Good job. And the curiosity and fearlessness is what makes it a great adventure and educational. No.3: I'm not one to subscribe to "Ancient Aliens" and the like on a regular basis but many of the petroglyphs and drawings do seem to depict strange things (beings) 🤔. No.4: Curious why many structures (houses) were built sometimes impossibly high? Lions, tigers and bears? Or maybe scary cannabalist tribes. No.4: Great job! Best show on CZcams. The view at 6:45 is ridiculously incredible! Great work! Keep it up. Thank you.
YT just decides to randomly turn off comments on some of my videos for no apparent reason. So yeah, you never know. Exploring these places is fun though.
Saw your comment and subbed to your channel. So fun to live vicariously through you all!
That’s like taking money out of your pocket with no explanation
@@swizlstik sounds like marriage to me….
They keep removing some of my comments. I watch as video and post a comment usually ending with "great video 2x👍" Then hit F5 and refresh the video, and my comment has vanished. I never get any notifications that someone replied to my comments so I guess 1 or 2 people will think Im really rude, but nope youtube 🤷♂
@@dcallan812 Happens to me frequently. Makes me wonder if someone somewhere just doesn't like me. Maybe they're angry I let my channel go idle for some time now. But I don't think it's that, YT does strange things.
You tube screws alot of good and hard working people who are honestly showing real life stories. Keep up the great work.
I'm sorry they demonetised that video. You're amazing. Love your channel.
Trouble maker. I was born in Arizona raised in Northern Mexico. Graduated high school in San Diego I have seen amazing things in the deserts. I just spent four days south of Moab. Amazing. Love your videos.
Thankyou for returning to this magical area. Its addictive to watch. Respect and admiration of your skills.
Mining engineer here. The 2 side by side towers should erode evenly, I would think, but why is there a rock debris field at base of the "Sheep tower" and not anywhere else on that rock formation? I'm looking at the film at 16:05. Perhaps the Sheep tower" had some human intervention? Keep up the great work!
I'm from the Zuni pueblo people and formations like these represent spiritual things that are kept secret.
Yes I noticed that too. One needs to always look at what's at the base of structures, it gives you some more info..
I noticed that too! Thought the same thing!
Thanks pal I enjoyed the hike.
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
That was so smart to go back on the summer solstice. Those towers are definitely intriguing and beautiful.
Please keep exploring. I hiked & backpacked all my life...until old age and arthritis stopped me. Your adventures have kept me in the game. Thanks for the letting me ride along ❤
Me Also, at 79.
The verticals lines on the rock remind me of some I saw in a small cave-alcove many years ago when I used to go out exploring. The lines in the cave I saw were like a calendar. The sun would hit the vertical line for a particular day. As the sun moved a little each day, the sun would touch a different line. There was a circle above one line which ended up being for the summer solstice. So, if the vertical lines on the wall are not from erosion, they may be a type of calendar marking the day. You would have to see where the sunshine touches each sunrise to see if that is the case.
Thank you for taking us along! 👍👍👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😀💕🍀🌸
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
I made such lines in my apartment, in pencil 😁
Might start again next equinox.
@@B.Ies_T.Nduhey very cool! 👍👍👍
@@cameronchicken8439 That is very interesting! 👍👍👍
@@leopardwoman38 I thought then it was rather crazy, but liked it no less. Today I feel fully justified, what with all those stupid time changes over summer etc 😁
I saw the initial video and it was lovely. I too, was a little frightened when I watched the climb. The difference between me and YT; is I am smart enough to know I am not a climber and therefore, need to trust those that are to know what they are doing.
Even the best have died due to one mistake - that's what CZcams's A.I. is demonetizing the videos for. I seriously doubt it was human intervention.
I agree!
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the calm mature delivery that isn't given like someone reading from a script and over-emphazing every other word. In a world of characters, and attention seakers, this channel is extremely refreshing.
Thank you for sharing your amazing adventures!!! 💯 And if anyone has a problem with these adventures, then I suggest that DON'T WATCH!
I guess nobody is immune from youtubes out of control censorship these days. 🙄
Yeah typical communist control
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
You certainly got that right. CZcams just gets worse and worse and worse. You can't offend anybody or cause any controversy it seems. It's just starting to get too much now.
Yea, their very selective decisions 😠
You are being censored so the idiots in the world don't get any ideas because there are many people out there who are defacing places like this. By censoring they are protecting it unfortunately for you! I've gone many ruins in Arizona where it's a 10 mile hike or more to get in and I don't tell anyone where I've been. Dumbasses will go out and knock those towers down they don't give a crap!
I think your rock art is absolutely a depiction of your two towers. One fairly straight column and one looking like a bighorn. I definitely enjoy your channel. Thanks for taking us along.
The petroglyph is made significantly more interesting based on the fact that it is not just a long horn, but one standing a short distance from a pillar. Just as the rock formation appears to be above. To my mind, it links the two and your hypothesis fairly conclusively.
Left to our own devices, we would never, ever see anything like this. Thank you for presenting the intricacies of this incredible desert landscape.
So my cousin used to work suppling food service to the 4 corners area . Sometimes he would directions from a native tribe member. They didn’t use names of roads or highway numbers, they would say turn left at the rock that looks like this and go straight until see a rock that looks like that and turn left. It was all about the rocks as being markers and directions being off of the rock in question.
Good for them, using their own system!!!
As usual Desert Drifter shows us the beauty and the mystery of the desert! If the alignments are north-south and east- west, then the equinoxes maybe an interesting time to see the sunrise. So hopefully, we will see you back there around the 21st of September :)
I have no words as to why CZcams needs to protect us from you while I can still watch horrific shorts of people getting knocked down in traffic accidents! You seem to be a highly responsible person with great respect for the desert, its dangers, and its history as well as your own safety. Keep them coming! If you are ever in Australia, I'm pretty sure we can find you some interesting desert with ancient rock art - and, even better, a still living culture that will explain their significance to you. Thanks for all your uploads, love them..
You're reading my mind. Stay tuned around September ;)
Rick, thank you for your contributions to the music industry. I was 23 when I got my first gig in Nashville doing live sound. I knew nothing. Not much anyway. I'm very fortunate there were patient, caring people who shared their experience and knowledge with me.
I dropped music theory in my second year of college because I wasn't getting it... I sucked at math. I don't have many regrets but.... I wish there had been someone to tell me, keep coming back. This isn't easy, you'll get it.
The best engineers I worked with had studied music and played an instrument. The most difficult musicians I worked with were guys who had taken a studio production course. Go figure. Keep doing what you're doing. Your content is fabulous.
These old world ruins are just amazing to ponder upon--thank you for sharing your botg footage--much appreciated! :)
The glyph at the base of the cliff looks just like the pillars reversed. 2 hunters sneaking up on a sheep. You’re so right 😮
Quite notable that the desert varnish has rendered the bighorn sheep almost the same color as the background. If there’s any overhang at all, they remain light colored for centuries.
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
@desertdrifter you do a great job with your videos. I saw the first video with the carved steps. Having hiked a lot in the SW, you do a great job promoting both safety and leave no trace. Keep up the great work. I love seeing all the Natural History sites you explore, as I don’t have the time to get to all these places myself.
Desert Drifter hi from Alberta, Canada. I have been intrigued by your channel since day one, it is the ultimate outdoor adventure seemingly without an end. Each posting is more interesting than the previous.
I'm totally blown away by the two tower location. I agree the towers must have been of special significance to the ancient ones, it's just so obvious. Please continue posting from this area.
You provide access to the desert southwest an area I love.. Cant wait until next week.
Thanks for including us in your adventure.
I always look forward to your newest video, I enjoy every moment of the trip and am always sad when it ends. I have learned so much from your videos, your explanations are so clear, and your voice so soothing it's just a pleasure. The terrain is so incredibly beautiful, the towers are so intriguing, and the petroglyphs so fascinating I just want the video to go on and on. Sorry YT is being so ridiculous. Thank you for sharing another adventure, stay safe and wander on!
THANK YOU as always for taking me along! Stay safe Andrew!
Thank you Janice
Just hopping on to say that I really enjoy watching your adventures - this has got to be my favourite yet! The light and videography is stunning. The soundtrack is perfect. I just love everything about it! Thank you ✨
It really pisses me off when youtube screws with content makers funding, forcing them to seek income elsewhere, and ultimately reducing content on youtube, punishing the viewers who are not financially able to participate in supplemental funding. CZcams: PAY your providers and STOP the greed driven BS of trying to find ways to punish both us viewers and the content makers. JUST GROW SOME BALLS AND PAY YOUR PRODUCERS!
Do you bite every hand that feeds you? lol
Sorry to hear youtube is not being nice.
I just want to say, if you give up your CZcams channel, i will miss you, i am a 75 year old woman who used to hike alot like you, but i don’t chance it anymore.
I love your content & hope you don’t leave, but know i am living vicariously through you on lots of your podcasts. ❤️❤️❤️
I think it looks like Woodstock the little bird that's friends with Snoopy....
This is my comment. I hope to see it here for years and years to come.
The comments on your videos always make me cry! Your channel produces such a cool vibe. You find the coolest stuff, you teach people how to respect the land and the history you find, and without you doing all of this, would anyone find it? Are these already on a map? I live right in the middle of a lot of dirt... My backyard is a lot of the places you visit... And I prefer being out in it myself, as well. But I never knew how many ruins were all around us at any moment... It's crazy. There's so much more out there to be discovered. Keep doing what you're doing!❤ Thank you!
So sorry about yt messing things up. As you said, it is very likely from someone in an office with no or very little clue of hiking. I very highly respect your experience, strength, flexibility, wisdom, preparations for these hiking videos. But, there's no way that I could even attempt anything more than a nice polite park trail, less than a mile. I'm certainly not going to try what you're doing, but I'm so glad you are. The respect you show and teach for the history of the peoples and their stories has helped me to understand better why we leave things alone. I'll consider the patreon. I hope I can do that. You are deserving. At the end, the straight lines made me think of dynamite drills. Is that a possibility?
So the blocked video was the one where you "leg jammed" your way up and down, right ? I guess they will be removing all yosemite, etc, freeclimbing and BASE jumping next.
Right?!
CZcams's demonetization policy is inscrutable. Watching you scramble up those carved-out steps had me a little puckered, but it was obvious you were in control the whole time. Thanks for another excellent video.
The fact that the video was released tells you nothing happened.
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
@cameronchicken8439: I complimented you the first time you posted this comment, but you're being rather annoying at this point. Give it a rest!
@@skipperclinton1087 i’m sorry i’m annoying but i’m trying my best. i want him to see my comments because he’s planning to go back a third time and i think i’m onto something which will help him make other discoveries. i did the same thing on the last video and he never saw it and he even went back there to try to figure it out. it’s not about you i want him to find the ancient road. i believe this was a corridor that a tribe used and these structures were made for temporary purposes for travelers and that these are road signs and that i unlocked part of their meaning for him so he can follow the road and see what else they left behind so i don’t care if i’m being annoying
I am incredibly glad that I got to see that climbing footage before they quashed it. It was obvious that early peoples had been there.
I love your videos and always find them thrilling to watch. I genuinely feel I'm exploring along with you and I appreciate that more than I can say. I'm writing today because I just heard about the demonetization of the rock step climb video and I wanted to apologize if I had in any way contributed to them mistaking my enthusiasm for your accomplishment as a "negative", as my comment was surely never meant to be taken that way. Anyway, I'm glad to hear you've got a Patreon page for us to support you! I will take advantage of it as soon as it's at all possible for me to do so, to make up for whatever it was you lost as I do feel somewhat responsible, though it's not true. Wodakote! God keep blessing you!
I just recently discovered your channel and haven’t stopped watching your videos. You’ve inspired me to visit the four corners region
You Tube is crazy no way should you have been demonetized.
The quality of your videos is top notch. You are a great narrator, and your selection of music is just perfect. I've hiked many many miles in the mountains, high deserts, and deserts mostly in California, and your videos make me yearn for those days to return. If they never do, I will appreciate vicariously hiking with you on your journeys.
Andrew, thank you for sharing your ancient discoveries with us. I too am beyond doing what you do today, but I had my adventures over the last 40+ years traveling the US west and southwest, Asia, Europe and Canada and Mexico. Keep it up, keep safe and keep filming. Don't worry about the de-monetizing of your previous video. Your filming and dialog will ensure your fans will continue watching.
It's a privilege to hoof around with you vicariously. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make it happen. BTW: Some of my fav channels here have creators that ended up in "CZcams jail" over the silliest things. Must happen to all with content worth watching! Thanks again, dude. Happy Trails!
Haha, CZcams jail. Hope I'm not headed to the slammer!
A question come to mind:
How much of that cliff was gone when the ancients lived there?
Did it look exactly the same as now?
500-1500 years later?
Or were their view very different from ours?
Maybe a lot of their rock-art are gone now?
Anyway.....love this channel!!
Keep it up.
Greetings from Sweden.
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so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
I doubt there was any significant difference to these rock pillars 500-1500 years ago.
@@cameronchicken8439 Hi Cameron. Your assertion might be plausible, but you offer nothing to make it credible.
And posting walls of words never increases your credibility.
What is the name of the tribe that created and used the codes? And what are the names of the tribes they were trying to deceive?
And how did you become privy to the codes? Are you Native American?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you've given no reason for us to believe you're right.
And no reason for Desert Drifter to respond to you.
Maybe if you answer my questions credibly he might reply.
Cheers
@@cameronchicken8439Hi Cameron. While your story may be plausible you've offered nothing to make it credible.
In posting walls of words never increase your credibility.
What tribe created the code and used it? What tribes were they trying to deceive?
How do you know about the code? Are you native American?
If you can answer these simple questions credibly, maybe someone will take you seriously.
Chee
@@ArcFixer i have nothing to prove to you and i have no need for credibility. go ask a navajo about code talkers seeing as you don’t know anything about it. there’s also a reason it’s called “the northern passage” but seeing as you don’t read up on native american history i’ll humor you which is more than you will do for me, right? i have spent a lot of time camping in canyons so i am somewhat familiar with the layout of the land. my ex wife is navajo so i have spent a lot of time on the reservation in that area and talking to natives. i am aware that the natives had a road between chiricahua through the pima reservation and on up to the four corners and that during the sitting bull apache era they would travel back and forth and the army was unable to follow them. nobody know what tribe that is, if you’re the academic here with all of the credibility then you tell me. but as far as anyone’s guess those are anyway between 200-1500 years old. as far as the pattern, i am right. if you think i’m wrong prove me wrong. i have never watched this kind of content or tried to crack a language or anything like that but i am really good at pattern recognition. i play chess at a genius level i play speed chess a lot. i draw a lot and i have ptsd which makes me repeat patterns in my head until i find the solution. maybe i am filling in the gaps with my imagination and if i’m wrong then i’m wrong…. so i answered you even though i don’t like you. even though you straight up just said multiple times “wrong” “you are so far off” etc but you have not given me any valid explanation. so if i am wrong what makes you right? where am i wrong? do you know what they mean, because i’m willing to bet you do not. also your academic reasoning is still less valid than my theory and “wrong” is a blind statement if you hold zero insight into what makes me wrong or what is in fact right. desert drifter can go chase aliens and the freaking solstice for all i care but if i have the opportunity to point him in the right direction i’ll take it.
Absolutely a wonderful journey into our Desert South West ! Thanks for allowing us to accompany you on this adventure and for your calm and probing narration filled with answers and with so many unanswered questions .. In addition, your selection of music is so appropriate .. I feel fortunate to have "discovered" your CZcams channel and look forward to each excursion .. Stay well and safe.
You got an old man on his toes by allthis beautiful imagery.
"This place is strange, man..." - best line
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
@@cameronchicken8439 my brother, what an essay you did there. So you are saying that the rock art points to the mountains up there, it would be like a gathering place?
@@Tonhaoreal what i think it is a corridor that a tribe used to travel through the canyon but they didn’t want people following them so the made it in code and that the structures are temporary housing for travelers and that the petroglyphs point to an ancient road out of there and there may even be other ruins or things left behind along that road. i know i’m commenting a lot on here but he didn’t see my comments on the first video and he even went back to try to figure it out and he even says that he is going back again a third time so i want him to see my post so he can validate it and possibly make other discoveries. nothing i do will make my posts relevant enough for him to see it. it may have been a planned escape route for their tribe or something like that a safe passage to somewhere else.
but i’m pretty sure i cracked at least part of the code: everything had to do with the positioning of the characters and anything not human is referring to the landscape. the star is an abstract arrow pointing the way out and the three figures are the rock formations when they line up like in the petroglyph there’s a mountain range and valley in the background which curves around to the right just like the star in the petroglyphs so i believe that it is the path out of there and that he will find more things along that road
like the human figure in the petroglyph from the last video was directing him to climb the ledge. the goat petroglyph at the base of the formation shows the goat on the left so if he continues around the other side the goat would in fact be on the left so it’s telling him to go that way. the three figures in the other petroglyph are not human so it suggests a third formation. behind the three formations you see right at 2:11 there’s a valley shaped like the star, it’s telling him to follow that valley…. it’s very obvious once you figure it out
Its a sad thing that as you say someone in an office decides what people should watch . A god in his ivory tower. Keep them coming Andrew they are sooo good, especially with the input from the person who is some time obeyed. (Wife) Regards from UK
Thank you Ian
so so so stoked I’m not insane for constantly thinking about locations that could be significant due to alignments with the cosmos through out time hidden in “plain sight”
The human drawing the sheep and person because of what he/she saw in front above in the distance, amazing!
Here's an idea. When you line up the data from a point in astronomical time that matches the solstices listed over the curved arch on the cliff....you'll see the date etched in Stone of its creation! Same dating system used all over the world to truly "date" such creations. I bet your discovery is QUITE ANCIENT!
The Earth has moved its poles a few times over the centuries...a long time ago, it lined up perfectly.
You're seeing that Ancient Language of Astronomy. And its beautiful!!
TY for all your content Andrew, you are awesome‼️
BTW - Just joined your Patreon page. You are such an inspiration to myself and my family.
Wow, I try to examine so much of you're hard work and I found what I thought was a huge head/statue piece at 24:13. If you pause the video at that time, just to the right, starting at the middle of the video, there looks to be a huge head piece. I am always curious of what could have been there years ago. I admire the curiosity and dedication you have to this work. THERE IS SO MUCH TO DISCOVER IF WE JUST TAKE TIME TO LOOK!!!! Thank you again for all you do!
I am so glad I got to see that video before CZcams took it down. it was an awesome video.
Born and raised in Missouri.
This is such an amazing environment!
Totally different from what I grew up in. 🤗💞👏
Thank you for the update. I enjoy your journey's.
The landscape is crazy beatiful anytime i watch your videos, i am in awe of the environments ❤
so i know what these mean! i know exactly what they are trying to say! 2:11 see these three formations? so in the vide he took down there where two separate petroglyphs. there was one with three figures but none of them looked human and two were obviously the formations one even has a goat right next to it but it’s off to the right of its head and there was also a star and a tribal symbol. but there was also another petroglyph which was very similar but from a different angle like it was higher up staring straight across at them and the third figure was definitely a human…. well that gives it all away right there because it was telling him about the ledge above him, he climbed up there in that video but he didn’t even notice it from the ground until he was flying his drone back towards himself from the formations. because the petroglyph depicted a human and not just a figure it means that it represents YOU or the person reading it and it’s telling them to climb the ledge and look at the formation to get a clear view because they are significant. the other petroglyph doesn’t depict any humans so the figure in front represents a third rock formation 2:11 right there! the goat is off to the side to represent that it is from another angle. the star is an abstract arrow telling him where to go like it is in motion and not a permanent object so it has to be the path or road but it is in code so as to not be too obvious what it means and then the tribal symbol is to let the reader know that it’s their form of communication so if you’re that tribe then you know how to read it. from this point of view 2:11 up on the flat lands you see a valley and a mountain range curving off to the right exactly how the shooting star did on the petroglyph so that is the path out of there. that it what it means! at the base of it he sees a goat and a figure but the goat is on the left so if he went to the left side of it then that formation would be on the left so it is telling him to go that way…. i cannot for the life of me get this guys attention though i even commented a lot on the original video and he never saw it. if it’s not exactly human then it represents the surrounding landmarks. i’ve known for over a week already and i can’t get hold of him and he even went back to try to figure it out which is really disappointing. this must have been an ancient corridor and these are road signs but they didn’t want other tribes to follow them so it is all in code. but if you already know the code then it is very obvious what it means
At about 24:13 in the video the flat stone with a smooth slightly curved center is a grinding stone and if you google “south Indian grinding stone” one of them is a flat stone with tiny chips knocked out of the surface just as can be seen around the edges of the stone you found. Just one more curiosity to add 😁
I watched that video, and enjoyed it, and you spoke abut how you were being safe the entire time...
17:22 the "person" glyph is the other tower. From the ground you wouldn't know where you were, but those glyphs tell you that you're at the location. Maybe a meeting place or hunting ground or tribe identifcation like "Welcome to Big Horn Sheep Tower Town,"
I was fortunate to have seen the first part of this video before it was removed. I miss the old days of CZcams 😎✌️
Ahhhh, the good old days.
I saw the 1st 1, too. Just joined up on your Patreon page. So glad you started a Patreon!! 👍👍 YT or someone reporting your channel is not right!! Good luck cause lots are watching as you explore these canyons/ruins. Love your channel!! 🇺🇸
I’m so glad that I got to see the first video before it was taken down. I love your videos!
Cool video. I worked in Grand Canyon for 7 years and saw things tourists never will. I think you're genuinely cluing in on something with these sights. I dont think people appreciate just how precarious those ledges are with shifting sand and and loose rocks. Stay safe.
Glad I was able to view the first part before yt screwed it up! Thanks for bringing us along!
I really enjoy this channel but it is a two edged sword. Your smooth delivery and soothing music tend induce happy nappy vibes in my brain. Good for you as a content creator since I have to watch it all the way through a few times haha!
It is ridiculous for YT to demonetize video like this.
Thanks for another great video Andrew. I live in the UK and have been watching your videos for a few months now - they beat most other YT content. So glad I saw you climb "the steps" but I must admit it was pretty scary. Such a shame YT demonetised it. It's good you decided to go with Patreon because now you have one strike you're in a precarious situation. Stay safe on those precarious walks and on YT :).
Beautiful scenery and good commentary! Don’t let U T get you down.
Drifter, it's not necessary to be near the towers to find out where their shadows will be at sunrise on a given day. Just search 'What's the azimuth of the sun at sunrise at this location on this day'. For location, any nearby town will work because the azimuth won't change much for short distances. The sun azimuth will be given relative to true north (not magnetic north); just be sure when you plot on your good map you plot relative to true north. Once you know the direction of the sun, you can plot the direction of its shadow.
Thank you for that information. So many aspecs and avenues to this topic. I absolutely love it. I feel connected to "it". The cliff dwellings, rock art, the humanity, the whole SW in general.
Thank you, Andrew. This is so exciting! I have a feeling you are on the right track. The ancients were spiritual and they had astrological awareness corresponding with their surroundings. They had directions plainly marked that you could see from miles away. They also had distinct boundries with natural formations of earth. The two pillars meant something to them. Also at the time stamp 14:56-59, the big horn sheep, a figure on the right, notice the crescent shaped moon, like half a bowl. I think there is something there. I wish I knew what it all means. Anyway, love your Desert Excursions and thank you, for letting us tag along and your treasure you share.
So sorry that one video was demonetized. It was a great one and a testament to your skill and overall caution. That some idiot complained just means they are jealous they are not you out there. Keep on doing what you do! Best to you and Mrs. Drifter!
Shame on whomever reported it to the YT gods. The work that was put in is remarkable.
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I love that the petroglyphs mirror the figures on the ridgetop. THAT is magic.
Could also be art 😁
Or science 😉
Right? I found it incredibly fascinating
@@Desert.Drifterhave a look at one of the photographer's ephemeris apps (like photo pills) it can show you sun and moon directions on a map and where light will fall etc. It could be very useful for planning trips like this.
Also perhaps a small led photo light (doesn't need to be more than hand size) so you can shine light at an oblique angle to have the petroglyphs stand out could help with making them visible
In any case thanks for the great work 👍
I was privileged to see your first video. I love your explorations. You are really good at speaking, editing, and exploring!❤🎉😊
Thank you Kathleen!
Thanks for revealing this beautiful landscape.
I saw the first video. It was awesome.