DO NOT UPGRADE Your MAGE WEAPON! Here's why...
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- A couple of months back I did a mega melee weapon comparison video where I put all of your best and most popular melee weapons up to the test. This video ended up concluding that most melee weapon upgrades actually aren't worth going for at all, because the cost of some melee weapons end up being too high compared to other options you could invest your money into. Because this video discovered heaps of valuable information, I figured I'd do the same thing for mage weapons, because as it stands right now, most people only know that the Hyperion is "really good", and that other options exist, but not how good they are. So, I've decided to put some of the most popular mage weapons up to the test to see how they all compare against one another to determine which ones are actually worth getting, and which ones you should skip entirely.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:02 What Weapons should be tested?
1:43 What makes a GOOD Mage Upgrade?
3:58 Costs & Requirements
6:54 Gear & Profile Stats Used for Testing (1/2)
8:40 Gear & Profile Stats Used for Testing (2/2)
10:01 Raw Damage Tests
11:45 Damage Tests Recap
12:53 DPS Tests
15:35 Clearing Tests
18:46 Boss Fight Tests
23:40 Weapon Value Analysis
27:38 Which Upgrades Should You Buy?
29:25 Outro
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One thing you forgot is that glacial scythe explodes projectiles on the ground so you don't actually have to aim precisely and it does the same damage regardless, it can even sometimes double proc damage
It always double procks if u hit the legs
not only that but if you use other mage weapons that has a duration time like the fire veil wand, it can be really helpful
The fire veil wand cant be dungeonized
@@gameviewproductions4074 shit, forgot bout that but it's still useful since your mana will be increased by 5x-20x
@@gameviewproductions4074doesnt matter cuz if u swap to dungeonized weapon those stats will affect it
For the yeti's sword, u get more dmg when the mob is closer to the center of the chunk
shelmet best dps pet item, fr fr
Exactly, that is why this weapon can be the cheapest way to carry a T4 enderman, since you reach the damage of not activating dark magic, if you do this with a coop, you can reach eman 7 with a very low investment or generate money by carry people
@@lpmatthews7387true like bossfights like floor 6 it is impossible to do high dps while being knocked around
@@SirBv8 it's honestly really funny to me just how useful anti-kb is and how much other meta pet items have to make up for that utility. Availability of control of movement in games truly is one of the best abilities in games.
I'm pretty sure the reason as to why the Yeti Sword is inconsistent in damage is because it deals more damage when closer to the target.
Here's what I think about these weapons (in no particular order)
Spirit sceptre: good damage, easy to use, versatile
Glacial scythe: good damage, harder to use, but very good for clear if you practice with it
Yeti sword: big rock smash = big damage (very fun to use)
Midas staff: great damage, but a little bit difficult to use and is very expensive
All these weapons are good in certain scenarios, but it's mostly about figuring out what works best for you.
For glacial scythe you need to aim at the feet. it does pierce dmg and explosion dmg on hitting a block
Which makes it harder to use, and thus a "worse spirit sceptre". The more complicated a weapon's mechanics and the more effort it takes to use, the less efficient it's going to be
@@ModernSoldieryou could just aim it like a spirit sceptre
@@ModernSoldier so you look down for yeti sword seems unfair
@@ModernSoldier If looking down at an enemies feet counts as that much more effort.. i wouldn't even know what to say to that.
The glacial does amazing damage and aiming it is absurdly easy given the projectile speed and its straight trajectory.
Feels like everybody just seems to either not know about the over double damage you'd do when shooting at an enemies feet compared to just using the beam or chooses to ignore it.
Couple of other things worth mentioning is that the yeti sword is great for its price but its damage drops off the further an enemy is from the chunk you throw at them!
@@ModernSoldierskill issue
Another thing to consider is what the difference in price means, for the lower price of the spirit sceptre, you could get a better pet, better armor or more talismans, which would decrease the difference in damage too and it would help outside of dungeons
Yeah absolutely. I covered this in the "Weapon Value Analysis" section and this usually holds true for all budget & cheap weapon options. Being able to invest coins into MP, armour and other upgrades instead of just 1 super "cool" weapon tends to be better, because if you end up upgrading out of that weapon, you still get to keep all of the other upgrades you purchased
@@ModernSoldier Another top tier lcm weapon is the aspect of the dragons, a good aotd will do alotta damage in the early game and its extremely cheap.
@@thescoffeu shouldn’t lcm at that game point
@@Stvik1 you underestimate lcm, during boss (bonzo, scarf and professor) and min-boss (la, aa) aotd lcm will be way better than any rcm weapon you can get at that stage.
you shouldnt count that lmao just get abetter weapon and work your way to better talismans don't be like modern soldier comparing gs + wither skelly with aotd edrag and gloves 💀
also the yeti sword depends on how close and far you are from your target the closer you are the more damage it will deal
11:00 I think the yeti sword ability damage is based on how close to the center of the chunk the mob is
For the glacial scythe, I crafted it for some reason when I was basically a noob, that I had a lot of ice minions and 10M on ice collection, I didn't know it was this good.
You will only ever use multiple mage weapons at once (that is the point of a magic class). Yeti + sceptre works great, because you use sceptre for clear or long range and if there's a mini boss. Another amazing combo is Yeti + spoon. They each have a 1s cooldown, meaning you can cycle between them to do massive damage, while still using a sceptre for clearing mobs.
The glacial scythe is actually good 😮!!!
You have to aim at their feet, so the projectile AND explosion hit, doubling you damage. It is still not worth the 50m, but it is not as bad as you made it seem.
Midas staff is really good. Honestly it's probably a skill issue if you can't do master mode with it. I know its not for clearing, but THATS WHAT THE SPIRIT SCEPTRE IS FOR!!!!
You testing these weapons in F7 boss almost seems like you are purposely putting them into a bad environment to make the sceptre look like the only option.
One last thing. To me at least, it seems like you are so used to a wither blade that you either [1] don't know what each of the weapons you tested is used for, [2] are used to large aoe from a wither blade (bias towards the sceptre), or [3] are using the complexity of the F7 boss fight as an excuse to be biased toward the sceptre.
I usually agree with your videos and have an enjoyable time watching them, but this video is quite literally just you showing how biased you are towards a weapon. You focused way to much on clearing potential in this video, and because mage is meant to be played with a clear weapon AND a damage weapon, these tests were extremely skewed.
And you probably won't see this comment, but hopefully it gets enough likes to bring it to the top.
Your still gonna get kicked from most f7 parties
@@TobiasCramon12 Although this could be correct if you are a high mage level have midas staff spirit scepter and really good all round equipment with good knowledge of secrets I don't think you would get kicked roo often from most parties :)
The I have with the yeti sword is that it has a hyperion like playstyle so you are close to the mobs but it doesn't offer the buffs that the hyperion and other necron blades give such as healing.
thanks to help this community and make those interessting vids gab !
Something I think should be mentioned is that the yeti sword is probably well paired with the baby yeti pet (legendary): It boosts the damage and intelligence of the yeti sword, providing more lcm and rcm damage and the pet also serves as a great solution for tankiness (also use dwarf turtle shelmet)
u dont get that much strength as a mage.. baby yeti is useful with arch/bers becuz they get tons of strength with blessings
i don't like that people underestimate glacial scythe so much, its a much better weapon than the spirit scepter because it has infinite pierce AND an explosion AND slows mobs, making it very good for clearing mobs and minis. having used all of these items quite a bit, i can comfortably say that glacial is much better than spirit scepter and is actually comparable to yeti in a lot of cases. overall decent guide, but very misleading when it comes to glacial
love ur vids, always amazingly edited and informative
Much love
the clear issue you had with glacial scythe was a very clear skill issue, as well as the miniboss fight, if you aim at feet it does 2x damage due to the fact its hitting them twice, once with the explosion and once when it pierces through the target. in clear you completely ignored the explosion damage which would help a lot clearing
You have to aim at the feet which isnt as realable as the spirit septre
Please do not go into f7 with just a l
spirit sceptre thinking it will make you deal enough dmg. Sceptre should ONLY be used for clearing and damagung Necron/goldor. For the other part, I really recommend getting a Dps weapon, so you wont be a burden to your team. Also he didnt even mention the midas staffs boss potential in lower floors and that it can out dps a hyperion. Also, no one said you'd have to keep your Midas staff, selling it is also an Option
Yeah just the fact that you can sell and buy makes everything in the game a rental system the only price being supply/demand. If you have a good upgrade in mind that has a stable price buy it.
Just use yeti for clear, and lcm bcs ur not going to do any damage to the boss anyways.
Going into F7 with just a Sceptre is not what I was suggesting, I was just comparing sole RCM damage against other sole RCM damage.
Ideally I would suggest using a Sceptre + an LCM weapon of your choice (Shadow Fury or Felthorn Reaper work really well) as this is miles better than any other mage options such as the Midas Staff or Yeti Sword. The LCM weapon is the boss destroyer and the SS is the clearing weapon.
As for reselling the Midas Staff, how does this change anything? There is no point in forking out 300M for an objectively underwhelming weapon when you can spend 70M of those coins on a SS + LCM Weapon and then the other 230M coins on talismans, armour, pets, etc. You're going to get better performance, it's going to be more reliable and you won't have any of the problems the Midas Staff has?
Mentioning the Midas Staff's potential in lower floors is quite literally insane, because if you're spending 300M+ to complete F6 and below, you're already doing something horribly wrong. You should be trying to complete the higher dungeon floors (M3+) spending that sort of money, and if you can't achieve that well with a Spoon, then it basically renders it as a useless upgrade
@@dcincco well for its price, hyperion is also kinda underwhelming, so if you apply that logic you should just become a term mage
@@Nutellagotti dont see how hyperion is underwhelming? Its worth its price considering it allows you to do Kuudra, acts as the best healing item in the game, the best damage item to use outside of dungeons, etc. Imo its worth its price considering how difficult it is to get, along with its high demand. All that Midas staff does is just high damage output in very little situations, which isnt worth even a fifth of what the hyperion is.
anyone who thinks they can just skip hype is just wrong, IT IS VERY difficult to get into even an f7 party without one and the healing is necessary later in the game.
Yeah logically, it doesn't make sense to get any of the 'upgrades' because they're not going to improve your gameplay enough, nor are they actually going to secure you a good party either (hype parties want hypes, not spoons or yeti swords). This is more of a problem with the community not being welcoming rather than the Spirit Sceptre not being capable. A player using a Spirit Sceptre w/ an LCM weapon can be a VERY useful F7 player the same way that a pure hype mage RCM player is, but pfinder thinks otherwise
I agree, lots of spirit scepter and midas staff players forget that there’s a difference between being able to survive on f7 and actually being useful in f7. Most people who use those weapons are too low cata to truly do much damage and would be better to simply swap out with a hyp mage.
I might be wrong but doesnt int. scaling still exist, so the weapon with better scaling would benefit more from the later game profile with more int
100%, so even though I was heavily favouring the Midas Staff because I had no choice, it still isn't really that worth getting at such a crazy cost
@@ModernSoldierbut doesn’t stuff like the voodoo doll have insanely high int scaling?
I feel like I should write an essay on this, but there's no point, since you covered most of the stuff that's important,
BUT, as you said at 27:16 you couldn't clear m3 at all, which was honestly expected. I personally wouldn't recommend mm mage before an edrag or a gdrag, and honestly, a good lcm set. Most boss mobs in mm have a RIDICOULUS amount of magic resistance, therefore rendering rcm weapons useless. (Also, let's not forget that it's archer's job to kill minis in mm clear 👀)
For F7, spirit sceptre would be enough since boss dps is USUALLY archer carried (Goldor 2 tap go brrrrrrr), but if you really want to, using a midas staff for clear IS an option but you shouldn't. There's no point in spending 300m on a mediocre weapon that can't hit mobs most of the time, the 300m can be used elsewhere, probably for a felthorn reaper or a GS and an lcm set that you can use for minis or boss.
Also a funny thing people don't realize is that spirit sceptre is just better at clear than hype for non mm floors, so keep that in mind aswell, hopefully party finder figures that one out...
Oh wow that storm armor is really cool!! I wonder how you got it!?
Im using a spirit sceptre to clear and for minibosses/bosses I switch to my spoon, fully agree with you on the point that sceptre is just the best at clearing, but for a lower cata level its harder to consistenly kill mobs with high hp
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I think the yeti sword deals less damage the farther away you are from enemies, though i havent tested it too much.
if u hit the feet on the sythe it hit twice 1 for first hit and 1 for explotion
thats the best editing in the skyblock youtube damn
glacial scythe damage should be doubled, just aim at the feet and it will count as pierce and aoe
A very nice item to use with SS and GS is the Implosion Belt. With the 25% damage boost on the GS, it might be able to boost its damage over that of the yeti sword
A 25% damage boost isn't enough to take it from 800k to 7 mil, even with the double hit tech, it only applies to half of the theoretical 1.6m damage
And then the spirit sceptre's entire kit is already based on explosions, is already more reliable, plus if ur going to have an lcm weapon on the side, you won't need the impractically theoretically higher damage, so why bother with the glacial scythe at all if you're going to want the weapon that clears better?
I think your ring of love scuffed the yeti swword test
edition perfect as always :)
not only does it do double damage at feet (which people have already said) but it also can pierce really well and takes no mana like at all.
Voodoo is insanely useful for early dungeons, especially for iron-man players. It is good for the lost adventurers or other mini bosses to slow them down and damage them with your main weapon. It generally falls off after floor 2 though
Dont forget that the midas staff can now get the gilded reforge. At mythic rarity it gives +90 dmg, +90 str and +400 int
This basically changes nothing. It hardly affects the LCM damage, which is the only valuable thing about the reforge, and every other stat I mentioned in the video stays the same
@@ModernSoldiermaybe he mentioned it for the mana idk cause heroic gives less then 400 and that 400 after all the boost from stars and cata lvl can give like 3k more mana which will increase dmg
doesnt matter doesnt fix the problem of its clunky and didnt work for boss could insta kill all it hits as well thats what it did in the vid and still wasnt worth using
I would remove the undungeonized frozen scythe from the progression in entrance you can one shot the normal mobs with ur ultimate (mage one verry good for it) after some tries you will eventually get a dreadlord
Yeti sword does more damage based on where the enemy is inside of the chunk middle does most 2nd layer does less and 3rd layer does even less
I know it ended but please continue the chaos profile as that will be pretty fun ( maybe u could do rift or crimson isle)
your content is the best skyblock content out there currently i really enjoy watching !!!
Yeti sword does more damage based on how accurately you hit your enemy. Also, what works for me as I’m saving for a Hyperion (about 300m away if you include the price of my current weapons) is clearing with a spirit sceptre and killing bosses/mini bosses with my Midas staff.
yeti swords damage is based on how close you are to the enemy so thats why its damage was fluctuating so much
I out clear some of my friends ( they have hypes ) with the spirit septre so its insane
This is typical, a lot of high level players argue that the spirit sceptre is a better clearing weapon than the Hyperion. Personally, I prefer the Necron's Blade, but it's just personal preference
for the spirit septure and glacial scythe they both pair well with guntlet of contagion
awesome video, can you do this for other classes too?
Berserker is next, seeing as it got tons of buffs. I'll see when I get around to it
You were very unfair to glacial scythe here, the whole power of the item comes from the double damage, the projectile does damage once, then explodes on the ground/wall to do damage twice, so you have to aim at the mini bosses feet. Through all my personal testing, it has higher dps than spirit scepter with less strain on your mana, but probably is slightly worse at clearing. I personally used the scepter for clearing and scythe for bosses for a long time. The slow on scythe is incredibly useful for early players as well, lets you kite out shadow assassins
This week it took me a hour of good luck+farming the 2.5mill zealot eyes to get a sceptre
Another thing is dungeons isn't the only aspect of Skyblock, there are also Slayers, Crimson Isle, fishing and general mob grinding.
He explained in the video that he won’t be covering that because most people use melee setups for outside of dungeons
Is this the same for crimson isle? If not, can you do a progression guide for crimson isle in the future?
Ok so some important things
Yeti sword deals more damage when ever u are closer to the enemy
Glacial scythe
It haves like 25% more dps then spirit scepter but You will need to aim for legs and It haves some benefits like it costs rly low amount of mana and the slowwness is rly helpful with mini bosses
And don't use midas staff for clearing
It's made for killing bosses/mini bosses
And spirit scepter for a lot of players will be just too weak for clearing f7 but it's still rly good weapon
And he was skill issuing a lot with close all of the weapons
Only weapon he was not skill issuing was with spirit scepter
In regards to me 'skill issuing with a lot of the weapons', this reinforces a lot of my points.
If there's a supposed learning curve (like you're implying by aiming at the feet), this makes the Glacial Scythe a much trickier weapon to use, so not only is it 3x more expensive, but it's also harder to use and basically the same in effectiveness? If this is the case, you're not really getting much of an upgrade here, but rather a more inconvenienced time in Dungeons.
What I know for certain is the Spirit Sceptre being so easy to use makes it MUCH more appealing as you don't have to try as hard, and the fact that its damage is basically on par with that of the Glacial Scythe makes it so there's no reason to upgrade at all. You're going to kill minibosses at almost the same speeds (maybe within a 1-3 second difference), your clearing will be the same and your boss damage will be unaffected since a full party will still output high enough dps numbers.
Midas Staff for only boss damage is CRAZY. If you're going to buy a weapons SPECIFICALLY for boss damage, you're better off with a Shadow Fury/Felthorn Reaper for LCM damage as they are 40M/80M and are significantly stronger boss killers. 300M for a Spoon is totally outrageous and not worth it at all.
Yeti sword being stronger the closer you are to a mob is also really bad, because what if you can't get close? What if the situation is Goldor's Tunnel where you have to keep your distance? Are you just going to run into him and get obliterated by Frenzy?
All in all you raise some valid points, but it doesn't really change the fact that the Spirit Sceptre remains consistent, reliable and easy to use. The other weapons just have too many downsides and raise too many complications when using them for F7
Well there's the only issue your high cats combs level/ gear to everone haves that high stats YES the spirit scepter is good but for players with less mana are gonna drain it rly fast and then u cant use it
The spirit scepter is rly good weapon but the Glacial scythe is rly good upgrade
Glacial scythe 151459 damage (151,4k) +freeze +less mana cost by 300%
Spirit scepter 96743 damage (96,7k)
And it's just rly high difference
But saying that after spirit scepter buy a 2B weapon is just rly dumb
As I said your cata level is too high
Is like testing your dread sword with cats level 40 and one shooting everything and saying every other upgrade is ussless
Let's say player with cats 25 will try f7 the spirit scepter will take like 2-3 shots to kill normal enemy's
And boss will take like 15-25s
With glacial scythe u can kill enemies with 1-2 shots and kill bosses 8-14s + making it was more easy bc they are slowed down
And 1 thing players are not buying
And saying u need to learn new strategy with Spirit scepter is rly stupid IT WILL JUST TAKE 1 RUB U just look at legs of the enemies THATS all
And no one is only using midas staff or yeti sword alone they always atleast have a spirit scepter or glacial scythe for clearing
The yeti sword isnt bad at all, its just bad in the f7 boss fight, that's y archers exist. personally I just have a bonzo staff and use its ability mixed with lcm for ranged attacks and its not bad.
Dude the voodoo doll is one of the best boss damage weapons… it might not be a primary weapon, but it is an amazing side weapon.
I agree that the yeti sword is worse nowdays but im still fan of it, cause when i was starting playing dugeons there was no such thing as 100mil midas staff it was almost unobtainable and i used it in combo with spirit sceptre so i can kill mini bosses quickly and clear quickly.
Anyone know the best method for beating Thorn before we do this....? Because he pretty blocks the usage of the Spirit Scepter....
i cant say much but for the lower master mode floors i feel that midas staff is literally the best option before hype
about a year ago when i used to play mage i used a spirit scepter for clearing and a aotd for bosses
you'll need practise for yeti sword and you have to know how does it works. your chunk will land on the block you aim therefore you cannot see yeti as bugde hype as its not insant explosion its smashing the ground so when golder and necron you'll need to aim at where the block block they are at to get max damage which takes a bit to learn.
yeti sword is very wierd. as a yeti sword main, it can be very confusing. however, it is fine if knowing the mechanics. it only does damage when it hits the floor, and also can’t hit midair enemies, so sadly i rely on archer when necron is in the air.
The spoon might be to good in dungeons but is pretty good out side of it. The damage is really good and is pretty easy to clear mobs with it.
whenever i use spirit sceptre i just teleport back and forth while shooting the mini boss
Will the midas staff be worth it if the bugs with it where fixed
i used spirit spectre, then glacial scythe, then glacial schythe and yeti sword, then midas staff and spirit spechtre
(glacial schythe does double damage and area damage if you aim at the toes)
I think its not a problem that you test the items on your main becase we can still se itts better (yea it differs the number but its still very usefull)
That's what I figured. The only inaccuracies will be the fact that I was able to kill minibosses much easier than someone who is cata 24, and my solo boss dps is also way higher. EIther way, a cata 24 player isn't going to be entirely solo like I was, they will often always have a team with them supporting their damage, which is going to be significantly stronger than my cata 43 solo dps
@@ModernSoldier you forgot the mana
a eraly mid game player will get out of mana 2 times or 3 per run with a spirit, while with a glacial in can kill bosses much fasters and make more damage to bosses without running out of mana
perfect timing to see this just started with spectre
Glacial Scythe has its charm as a weapon, and is a decent if you use its ability more, also having a very low mana cost compared to sprit sceptre makes it more usuful outside of dungeons as well, also boss damage you just have to aim down. But yeah spirit sceptre is probably better for dungeons but overall glacial scythe if you have the money makes sense before f7
Yeah outside of dungeons capability I specifically didn't cover because it would add way too many variables to this video. The general rule of thumb with outside dungeons potential is that "melee is cheaper, so why would you go for mage". Unless you're using a Necron's Blade, mage is super unrealiable (and very costly) outside of dungeons so it's not something I can really recommend, even if it's not a terrible option
glacial scythe is only used for bestiary and spawning slayers@@ModernSoldier and it outclasses even hyp for those things for most people because of such an insanely low mana cost
@@elaboratelymcc9038 I've not once seen anyone prefer a Glacial Scythe over a Fire Veil wand for slayers/bestiary. Usually this is paired with a Necron's Blade, however with the exception of the Headless Horseman boss, you'd use an AOTD for that
@@ModernSoldier i personally dont like the fire veil because i forget to keep it on, and I run out of mana eventually if i only use hyp without glacial to kill out of dungeons
SS bat travels slowly than glacial scythe's ice projectile does, and ur aim is slightly locked till the bat reaches to an enemy or a block (unlike glacial scythe, u can just spam it everywhere without being aim-locked). Ofc u can tp with aote/aotv and look down to make bats explode instantly (which is kinda budget hyperion), but I think its actually the same 'skill requirement' like glacial scythe's leg/feet aiming thing.
SS is way more cost-effective tho, its just mage class' problem that u actually have to jump from like ~100M weapon to a 2B weapon which makes huge debate between these pre hyperion mage weapons 😅
Just buy Weapons in this order:
1. Bonzo Staff
2. Spirit Sceptre
3. Glacial Scythe
4. Midas Staff
5. Hyperion
one thing about the yeti sword and the midas staff because your so high cata you prbobobly dident notice but they cause a lot of brobloms with them taking to much mana
If you manage your mana well it won’t be a problem I’m a cats 24 without storm armor and Midas has plenty of mana
Frozen and Glacial Scythe also go through enemies if you line it up right and Glacial Scythe explodes if you hit the ground and wall
That doesnt make them good
That doesn't make them bad either and from my use of all but yeti sword It comes down to what the player likes and how well they use it and with the right equipment both SS and Glacial Scythe better@@mqvio_173
I feel like midas staff is the way to go because by the time ur regularly running f7 a hyp would’ve been worth it to get just for outisde of dungeons too
Amazing video btw
You forgot that you have to AIM at feet with the scythe so IT does Double the damage
8:35 **caželly has 300m coins in purse** objectiv _craft a lapis pickaxe_
Wait so it is ok to transfer items through profiles?
If u hit legs with glacial scythe it does 2x dmg... 1.6m! (nearly 1.5x scepter) and the hard to hit factor dies since the explosion is big enough (I think 1 block less than scepter).
Scepter is a 6 block radius, glacial scythe is 3, glacial scythe is shit, your clearing a 3x3 area opposed to a 6x6 one
Why arent you or no one talking about aurora staff?? I have it and I think its very very good. Is it?
Glacial scythe also can be fragged and increase stats
The spirit sceptre is 25 - 35 Mil currently btw
if a normal f7 player tried to play with a spirit sceptre he will insta die bc we cant clear. you can clear with a spirit scepter bc you are cata 43
I would also consider the mana usage if you dont have a have a hyperion your mana wont be really high. Spirit Sceptre uses a lot of mana compared to some of rhe orher weapona
#makeyetiandgoldspoonhavebiggerAOE,oratleastbeabletodamagefloatingwithers.
Then you wouldn’t have to go (at least damaging the bosswise) from scepter to hype. Yeti and spoon might be goog for clearing though, and didn’t they patch the carpet bug? Same with the walls right?
Idea for spoon; instead of a rectangular wave, make a circular amount of gold around you (so like a hype) go up in the air, and the fall back down. Anything it hits both ways takes damage. With yeti sword just make it able to hit enemies when falling down, not just on impact. Spoon basically becomes better yeti that centers around you instead of where your cursor is. Also, give you some absorption hearts bcs gold wave shield :)
We need a video on the lcm potential of the Felthorn reaper then
I'm going to make another one of these but for berserker and berserker weapons, and in it I will likely have a small segment on LCM damages since they're somewhat relevant to that. Not sure when I'll get around to it, but we'll see
@@ModernSoldier Also, can't you use the midas staff with the spirit scepter and yeti sword and get insane clearing? Another note: They killed AOTD mage :(
Tbh a lot of the non-boss section of dungeons is an opinion. Technically you can clear some rooms slightly faster using a SS than a hype if you aote right, but I would never do that because hype is so much more fun. Of course, dungeon bosses are pretty much just dps tests so there will be a more objective best option.
And that's why I try to provide as much footage as I can, so you can see what the results are, listen to what I have to say, and then form your own opinions and decide whether you agree, partially agree, or disagree :)
personally im biased towards the yeti sword cause i used to own one and i loved how it worked, I know that it isnt really that good but it did nice lcm and rcm dmg and f7 parties let me in with it but i did have spirit sceptre for clear cause i mean you cant compare it spirit is the chad for clear
After a while of using the yeti i bought a 100m midas and it was also pretty nice for me but it was a long time ago
I do agree that spirit sceptre is the most consistant for everything you tested cause its really really good for its price
I share your opinion, I have a yeti sword and scepter for clearing. I dont really lcm, but then i dont really do f7 either. im going to get more into it though. definitely love the yeti sword, absolute favorite weapon.
@@gamerelf1769 yea ikr yeti was so much fun, but now i have a hype so yk
@@itsronplayz9932 yeah i just dont see myself grinding 1.5-2b coins for hype. Ill probably switch to giant's sword-spirit sceptre r and lcm combo or just giant's sword bers
the yeti sword damage depends on if you aim good or not
A couple things with the glacial scythe, if you can afford it, buy it instead of a spirit scepter, for one, the spirit scepter has a much higher mana requirement, unlike the glacial scythe, plus the glacial scythe can hit twice easily, finnaly take into account that the midas and yeti sword have a cooldown, and the glacial scythe shoots faster and slows. All in all glacial scythe>spirit scepter my opinion
Couldn't disagree less. If you're having mana problems with a Spirit Sceptre then you're not optimising your mana efficiently enough (I have a whole separate video on this that covers it in extreme detail). The Glacial Scythe has a much trickier learning curve since it REQUIRES you to aim at the floor in order to double hit the mobs, which the Spirit Sceptre does not have. Both of them quite literally perform the same in the clear, but the SS is easier to use, and the same applies to minibosses and boss damage. In a full 5 man team you're not going to notice any major dps changes between the two weapons so you're quite literally forking out 50m coins for a slightly worse time in the clear and same miniboss/boss performance.
@@ModernSoldier Back in the day I used to main spirit sceptre and he is 100% right. On a lower cata profile, you will run out of mana constantly with a spirit sceptre and it is necessary to use a glacial scythe or even normal frozen scythe with if when u get low on mana
@@ModernSoldier you did testout the weapons on a cata 43 profile with 3/4s storm and wither goggles, while players just getting the scythe or scepter would be using wise dragon or something. A good example is a friend of mine who uses glacial scythe. There cats 24 and use 3/4s wise dragon and wither goggles, and they didn't use spirit scepter because of the mana cost. I sometimes use spirit scepter, but I have storm and other stuff, and am cata 32. So some of ur stuff is right while others are wrong tbh.
Last thing, it would honestly be better just to get both if you have the money, because both have varying uses, because spirit scepter is overall better for clear but glacial scythe is better for minibusses and other stuff.
Good video tho
14:00 its not coz the shot is slimmer is coz bats follow your cursor, and glacial does an explosion on impact with ground so u didnt get full potential
hey I was wondering how you make your armor invisible
Fuck it, time to buy them all
the glacial scythe has double the dps if you target the mob's legs, since the projectile and the explosion from hitting the ground both deal damage to the same mob.
also the yeti sword deals more damage if it hits in the middle of the chunk.
also, midas spoon for f6 terracottas is just.. heaven. im working towards a golden drag rn, so i can get even more dps.
rn im using 3/4 YELLOW storm with 1/2 perfect saphires, cata 28, chimera 1 midas with minos relic sheep.
rn i can do 23-40m damage in clearing, wich will be like 80-90m with a 1b bank gdrag.
i know the chimera was a waste but i was curious and i like wasting money on a soulbound spoon.
so yes, embrace the spoon, embrace getting hated by archers, come to the yellow side.
pairing it with a fire veil + a fire fury , you can melt bosses easily.
also soul eater 5 spirit sceptre, its fun, trust me.
The Spirit Sceptre is quite literally the best RCM clearing weapon even used by end game players speedrunning dungeons. It is just the best weapon for its value even outclassing the wither blades.
This is an opinion, not a fact that a lot of high level players have. I personally prefer the necron blades for clearing because I like the teleporting aspect, but I can agree that the spirit sceptre is basically on par with this. Either way, it just goes to show that if even high level players are preferring the spirit sceptre, it's likely that it's going to be better than all of the weapons in this video for clearing specifically
u can actually frag yeti sword with winter fragments
I know you probably won’t see this but you should make another crazy series like you did with chaos profile it was so good
I'm not touching series' ever again because they're not my strong suit. I have a much better time with these guides/comparisons/tutorials and people like them a lot more
Also glacial scythe does WAY more dmg with gauntlet of contagion and implosion belt
Never underestimate the voodoo doll in early to mid game dungeon, they mainly slow the target and deals a decent amount of damage.
Also clear SA or Frozen Adventurer
I was just about but a glacial scythe too. Thank you so much!
no glacial scythe is good, this guy has no idea what he is talking about
if you aim at the feet with an implosion belt you deal 2.25x dmg
with less mana cost and ss being terrible outside dungeons glacial scythe is a very good upgrade
Why is the Yeti Sword and the Midas Staff worth 65m and 300m respectively if the suck. One work: Sadan. They excels in Sadan fight because their mage beam is good enough and it clears really well in the Sadan Terracotta Warriors and Giants. Even works with Sadan himself if you don't deal kb damage
you forgot the ink wand as it's the best boss killer in mid game
yeti sword is really good outside dugeons when i'm in dugeons it just better to use a spirit scepter cuz yeti sword does like 5m damage a hit up close but has a 0.5sec
cooldown while in dugeons instead of 1sec because of mage passive but i could also just use spirit scepter that does like 800k-1m damage from far away so i dont get hit and the speed with yeti sowrd is just trash cuz u have to right click ur sword
the glacial scythe had literally half its possible dps :( it was done dirty
Does yeti sword is very good melee weapon or no
I went from spirit sceptre to midas staff, I just solo f6 so it helps quite a lot.
Except you're probably going to be stuck at f6/f7 and seeing very little or no action past that. A Spirit Sceptre would've also kept you stuck on these floors until you get stronger upgrades
23:15 Man really just called LCM beam weak... This thing is pretty strong, you only need 100 bil of setup though hehe
when saying how much a yeti sword is you said 65 billion