Secret to Win with Hedge Strategy | My Cruise Plan
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Great video, very well played out. I like how when you're describing this you just pick up the dice and roll them, no messing around with the set. Get right to the point. After watching these past couple videos, I have changed my whole way of playing to this style with the DP since I only play on my vacations in a RC casino. I more play the Iron Cross hybrid of this. Step #1 get past the come out, Step #2 hedge the point with the Nine and play $10 on the field, Step #3 collect enough in your rack to break even, all this should be done in three rolls. After I have completely broken even, I press everything till about the tenth roll and then I pull down to $110 inside and start over. Taking profits during a roll earns Zero comp points. When I point out I start over with a DP with what I have on the table and shift to protect the DP. Recycle every ten rolls.
Have a great time on the trip. Lounge during the day, enjoy a nice dinner, theater every night and casino after. Repeat for five, six, seven days or whatever.
Good luck to both of you! And, of course, good luck on coloring up.
Fingers crossed!
Holly Roll[r]'s play all day strategy seems to work the vast majority of the time. That's my go to for a little winnings and comps. Good Luck on your cruise!
Don't Pass and 2 come bets? I like that one, too. Brian said it is rated lower though, so I want to test that out. But much easier to play.
Great video. Smooth game play with good explanations. You're very easy to follow.
Much appreciated! I do my best.
Had a lot of fun rolling with you and Holy Roll(r) tonight on the cruise!
😄 I don’t know you by screen name. But everyone I met on cruise was great to play with
looks pretty good. I saw a guy playing the don't a few times. About 2/3rds of the guys won most of the time. The downfall of these guys was not stopping when the table got hot. Keep up the great job you do.
Nice rollout for a very solid strategy. Haven’t seen you this excited about craps and taking your game to the table, since you started making videos! I wish you well Jeremy. One thing I noticed is that when you deal, play, talk and all the rest of it to make an entertaining video, it’s very hard to keep track of your rack. This will of course be easier with others dealing and you just focusing on your game and where you are in your rack. So if you see a 15 plus role ➡️ Go ahead and take your profit! Nobody ever went broke in craps -by regressing.
You are very observant. 😁😉
I was very successful at playing the inside on my last cruise. I would do $44 inside and when the numbers where doubled I would just collect. Turned $300 to $1k throughout the cruise.
Awesome profit
I like this small tweak Ty
Definitely looking forward to the cruising update.
Im going on a cruise this week myself, mariner of seas with royal carribbean. Maybe I'll see ya at the table.
Have fun, and good luck on the cruise. Can't wait to hear the news.
Looking forward to the update. My thought was to regress to 52 across once you have enough for the next 100 don't pass bet. Then you can play that 52 as aggressive as you like. Good luck, sir.
Good luck on the cruise! Thanks for rolling this out,
I don't know who needs to hear this but they're out there. If you're in Vegas, Red Rock is giving 10x odds on all box numbers.
Good luck, looking forward to hear how it went!
Thanks! Will do!
Good luck!! And more importantly, enjoy your cruise and happy sailing.
Thank you! Will do!
I do this exact strategy. Except I bet 50 dont pass before point is set, then I lay odds on don't pass to equal the across.
I take the first win to pay for hedge and then it's all uphill from there. I take the 3rd win, and every 3rd win from there.
I call it the power of 3s
The problem with laying odds is that it doesn't count toward your rating.
That minimizes risk, I like that. Odds won’t be rated though sadly
So, say it's a $10 table, couldn't you just DP table min and then lay odds to equal the across?
@@cast-ironcowboy well, with $10 you can only bet single odds, so you’d have to bet more anyway. Also odds bet isn’t rated. So you’d be missing out on $90 rating per roll.
Yeah, I set and thought about it after I made the comment. You'd always be trying to play catch-up essentially because you couldn't lay enough to be completely hedged both ways. Was just trying to find a way to minimize risk for 7 and 11. Even if you hop the 7 and 11, you're still playing catch-up.
nice video! always enjoy watching you roll.
love this strategy....
Very helpful advice to be aggressive. Working out for me with practice rollouts.
Passive play hasn’t worked for me, only when I’m aggressive has it worked out
11:21 isn’t it funny how you always need one more roll no matter the roll count 😂
Ha, of course
If your bankroll is down, you might want to be aggressive for a few hits or so and then regress, cycling until you're even. Don't forget, you're there more for time and preserving than a big win.
15:35 - I think you need $3 for the vig. You needed $1 because you collected on the 4 hitting and $2 for pressing 4 & 10 to $50 each
Good strat. like that you collect some as you build.
@Color Up
If myself and a friend both wanted to play craps for comps. Is there a way to make this a 2 person strategy to further hedge losses or would it be best for us to both just play the same strategy?
Well this strategy hedges itself pretty good but best hedge is to play opposite. if you lay bet 4, he place bet 4. If you make $100 dont pass, friend bets $100 pass. Things like that. very minimal risk as long as you divide up the money afterwards. Casino can and sometimes put a stop to this. Just don’t advertise what you are doing.
Good luck on your cruise and stay safe.
Thank you!
Please follow up with whether you made enough points to earn a free cruise with this style
I for sure will
One of the things I’ve wanted to understand on this strategy is how long do you really have to play? You did about a half hour here so if this is rated at $200 an hour, in order to get a free cruise what’s the table hours you’re going to have to spend through the week? And how do you know if they’re watching? At a busy table, with a strategy like this, I would want to make darn sure the pit boss is watching.
It's about 3 hours a night but on a one week cruise but it depends on how well you do, if you lose your nightly bank roll in 1-2 hours on the first 2 nights you need to play for about 3 hours a night for the remaining nights and at least break even
The pit boss will typically look at your bets for the first three or four rolls in a hand and enter your average bet.
They will look at your average bet about every 10 to 15 minutes and adjust if needed.
If you are doing 200 points an hour. You’d need about 6 hours of play total. Spread across the nights as you like. The boxmsn were pretty active at watching and adjusting. I did feel like I got rated by some boxmsn more than others. Unfortunately it’s still not an exact science.
Why do you not press up your point bet up to $75 on the 5&9 and $90 on the 6&8 after the come out roll and you hit the first 2 numbers? This way if the point is hit you are paid $105 for the point and lose $100 on the don’t pass.
Because the 6/8 pressed to $60, pays $70 and has the $30 profit on it. So if point loses, yes you lose $100, but get paid $70 and can just lower your 6/8 back down to $30. There is your $100.
Same situation with 5/9. Press to $50, it pays $70 and you can pull $25 profit back off for $95 total.
You can add more to those numbers, but no more is needed for a full hedge.
I get free cruises all the time. The threshold for points isn't that high for a free cruise. If you play double tap, triple lux, or any other type of strategy to get your money out and then press and collect the house money will earn you a cruise. Some keys: 1) don't play the pass unless you're shooting, 2) make sure you watch your bets, cruise dealers aren't the best at craps, 3) tip often and generously.
My next cruise in April I will be playing $110 inside and after two hits, will regress to $64 across and then press and collect. A $110 avg bet will earn me a free cruise with only a couple of sessions a day AND give me the opportunity to win big. Hedging strategies puts way too much money on the table.
For sure play as you like. Some of boxmsn I saw were very active of watching and adjusting points. your regression would look more like 80-90 points. Which may be 13-15 hours of play. You’d have more upside to win more for sure, but also more risk to lose a lot more without hedge. You don’t want to lose $1000 to win a $1000 cruise.
I know some land based casinos won't rate a hedging system for all the chips on the table. Are cruise ships different?
This is a hybrid strategy and every casino that I have been at rates all the bets.
I usually never play for points or hedge so I have no prior experience.
On the ship, they definitely rated both sides of hedge.
If you have several 7s on come out would you switch tables or play differently?
That’s the magic question. How many can you endure. What should you do differently? I don’t have the answer
Use hop Hedges to win on the come outs and you will enjoy those strings of come out Reds. You'll have to use odds after you set the point so you can pay for the hop hedges that didn't win but that will work out fine in the long run since there is no house Edge
@@ahbalone hop hedges over time lose more than the actual bet at risk. But is satisfying when it works. Odds bet is not rated for comp points and not helpful when trying to win points for a cruise.
I'm sorry, but I seriously believe the first hit should be collected. This ensures a profit. With the inside, two hits.
Thoughts on using the DC instead of the DP?
I made a follow up video about it
I made a follow up video about it
when you say a number is "fully Hedged" is that supposed to mean that you won't lose any money on that number? You keep saying that the six is fully hedged at $60 and if you hit the 6 there you will lose $30. AM i misunderstanding what you mean?
So when you take profits of $30 and then fully hedge a point of 6. You now have $60 on it. If it hits, you lose $100 DP, but get paid $70 for place 6. You also have that $30 profit on 6, you can remove and there is your $100. So can’t win any, but also can’t lose any. Fully hedged on the point number. Then the hope is to just make more profit off the other numbers.
When the point is 4 or 10 and you make a Buy bet for $50 on the point, you are removing the value of the 7 rolling ($100 win on the Don't Pass). Basically, you are giving the casino $50 every time you do it.
No you dont. You win more if it hits. Do you even know why they play this hedge??. comps only aka a free cruise for two. Ffs avg bet is all that matters
As opposed to $100?
So you put $0 on 4 or 10 point. The 7 rolls, and you lose $100.
Now, what is it if you put $50 ($2 vig) hedge.
You lose $100, but win $100.
Thus, you are out $2 vs $100.
You put $100 back on do not pass and $2 vig. Meanwhile, your other numbers remain the same.
I actually prefer when point is rolled, so you continue vs. back at the beginning.
@clueless9245 If the point is 4 or 10, you don't make a Buy bet on the 4 or 10, and the 7 rolls, you win $100.
@thotty69 I play hybrid all the time at this level and am doing it to earn tier credits.
If you have a $100 Don't Pass bet and the point is 4 or 10, you should win 2 out of every 3 times it happens.
@@jimklemens5018 you do in this comp strategy. Absolutely
My one criticism of how you rolled this strategy is that you don't pull the DP when you should. With the last roll, you were definitely out of the hand and on the casino's dime... but lost $400 of profit on the DP. If you get the lay-out covered in profit _and the point gets hit_ just leave the DP off and play the box. If you don't regress back to your original $100 spread, then the DP back up makes no logical sense.
This is for cruise points, it’s much better to leave money on table and just hedge the DP by place betting it. This keeps your avg bet size up much higher.
On a land based casino, not playing for free cruise points, I would agree with you.
@@ColorUp I guess it really depends on how the house (land or sea) does your rating. On every table I've ever played, the pit boss will keep a running total of your bets out after 4-5 rolls and then calculate your ADT based off that and _then they don't update it unless you request it_.
If your boat is the same way and you get that DP hit after your ADT is established, it won't hurt your points in any way.
OTOH, if you have some kind of unique eye-in-the-sky instant rating system (or roll-to-win), then I'm flat out wrong... but I haven't heard of many places using something like this because the image recognition systems just aren't at this point yet.
@@justinkarnes3276 It would be great if they just rated first couple rolls and never updated again. I would just bet big for first few rolls and then drop down to bare minimum. On ships they are pretty active with updating your bet amounts.
On land, i don't bother playing this way, as I've never felt the ratings and or comps were worth playing for. So I play to win, and never worry about comps. Different mindset than on ship.
What cruise line is best to do this on?
Royal Caribbean. RCL has a chart you can find in the Casino day 1 with clear targets for comps based on points you earn. You can check your avg bet rating with pit bosses and talk to the casino host to see your current points. Most cruise lines will give comps, but it can be a mystery figuring out how. With RCL, you know your goal and can measure your progress.
I’m told, Royal Caribbean is the most transparent with how their points are earned and how many you need to reach levels of free cruise offers
I only cruise RCL/live in SoFL, have 12 left this year. FoS rated me fairly well last 2 cruises for only 3 day cruises.
Shoot for the Moon! I recently started adding a Hardway/Hit & Split Parlay to the Hard 6/8 for a nice payout. ALL hedged money of course!
Pockets aren't as deep but do play several different hedging strategies and my own variations of many you, the Boys at CQ and Walen have demonstrated over the years.
Enjoy your cruise!
Actually you never had a complete hedge established against your 110 inside. So why don't you simply establish the don't with 110? And 6 and 8 make lousy don't numbers. You're better off fully placing against all don't 6 or 8 and then establishing a DC to get a better outside number as a hedge . Then go on with your place bets.
After hitting a number you can use that to establish full hedge. Or you can full hedge the point immediately and bet less on other numbers. I would not go thru the dont come again, it’s too big a risk that you just made it thru. you want as few comeout rolls as you can with this strat. That’s when you get hurt.
Someday I'll teach you how to play the dark side. With your original don't fully hedged with 90 placed you have the same risk as you had the first time when you set the 6 or 8. It's worth it to get a better outside number for your hedge by going through the DC.
@@ColorUp the game Ebbs and flows. Experience teaches that you need to have a clue what's going on with the flow of the outcomes. Playing strictly by the math only works in the casinos interest.
21:30 why did you give $2 to the house? It is not a buy.
Just a mistake as I was used to having buy bets
Why not just full press?
You can press as you like.
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