Denial Is A Powerful Thing, but so is This Patient's Condition | House M.d.
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- House and Foreman deal with the aftermath of a patient finding out that he has tested positive for aids, and the denial that soon follows from him.
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Episode recap from Season 1 Episode 17 ''Role Model'': A popular U.S. senator (Joe Morton) and presidential candidate succumbs to illness at a fundraiser and Vogler assigns House to his case. He also tells House he can keep his whole team if he endorses Vogler's pharmaceutical company. The Senator's initial diagnosis seems to point to AIDS, but House digs deeper for another answer. Meanwhile, he also handles a case of a woman who apparently gets pregnant without having sex.
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I requested this a few times, but could you make a "Can't fake that" compilation? I loved the moments where they think a patient is faking something, but they discover it's real.
No
Not possible
@@TheAlcoholic27why not
@@mb4523
He probably thinks it'd be impossible to find all the scenes. But surely this channel has an archive of all the scripts. From there it'd be pretty easy to find those moments.
Naw, im just goofing off along with that other poster. Compilations would be a great idea.
Crazy to think that after all this, he changed his name, hit the gym, and pivoted from politics to a career in computer science so he could go on to invent the revolutionary neural net processor.
LOL, I was thinking the same thing!
No, he was a NASA engineer who moved to a small town in Oregon where he ran a garage,invents mental time-travel, was mayor, and was the sheriffs go-to guy for just about every problem that came up.
Not really invent though. He just had to reverse engineer it.
No he actually went to DC had a daughter that specializes in being a political ‘fixer’ and a wife who is a known spy and he founded a secret military organization called B613
@@christianboehlefeld5168 u talkin bout eureka???
9:03 "I would rather think that people are good and be disappointed" I love this, its real for me
staying innocent or naive, isnt always a sign of low iq or a weakness. for me it is a belief in myself and that are other people like me, or even better to learn from.
I wish I was still able to believe the best of people. Working in a call center or the service industry cures you of that FAST.
Such a democrat hero. LOL
I subscribe to the notion of realistic expectations and outlook on reality. The overwhelming majority of people are morally lazy, and if correctly prompted, are capable of some truly heinous stuff. Believing that everyone is good is settling yourself up to be bitterly disappointed and unlike you, I don’t like disappointment. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I believe in second chances in certain situations, but people normally don’t do what’s right, they do what seems easy.
I’m a cynical realist and I believe that inherently humans are selfish. There are many who perform selfless acts, some more than others, but deep down everyone is selfish and therefore I’m never disappointed when people act as I expect them to.
I love how Cuddy got so disgusted when House was mocking the Senator’s disability.
It's ironic, because this character is based on Barack Obama, and he mocked the Special Olympics on The Tonight Show
I remember being tested for HIV as a young child after science realized it could be passed through blood transfusion. I had surgery for a birth defect at 24 hours old and required a transfusion. I don't remember being scared probably because I didn't really understand. I was negative and where my mom worked went on to be one of many medical research teams throughout the world that eventually found the combination of medicine that keeps HIV from turning into AIDS
That's amazing, she sounds like a driven woman. It's also one of the diseases that, out of nowhere, went from a death sentence to, if not curable, absolutely manageable with the work of scientists like your mother, within just a few decades of it appearing.
I had one in the ones too after receiving g blood (just after or around when that young boy with hemophilia died from AIDS because of a transfusion. He was the one that shared his story with the world before he died, and eventually got the government to start testing all donated blood for it (and other diseases). I remember hearing his funeral was televised ( I was too young to watch/I imagine mu parents didn’t want me to…but remember Michael Jackson performed at his funeral etc. I believe it was one of the first funerals Westboro Baptist also protested it. If it want his it was a child. With a similar story and a similar church). I didn’t realize either, I was told it was a “checkup” …but it both scared, and scarred, the hell out of my parents (and those tests took several weeks to run back then-you don’t get the result in a day…neither slept very much. I remember my grandmother sending them a new coffee maker and had several cousins and relatives that nuts “happened to visit”). As an adult, I cannot even imagine how stressful that must have been. To mark matters worse, I caught mono at the time and was sick/l very sick/ had a rash (both early symptoms of full blown AIDS).
Oh my, I can't even imagine how utterly terrified your parents had to have been. And I can't imagine how monumental their relief must have been when the test results finally came back (that early on it would not have been a fast test). I was a kid in the 80s, when people didn't know anything about it. Didn't know how it spread, only that it was a death sentence. And back then, everything was so much slower. You think the rumors and disinformation is bad now, back then it was literally all there was even if you were somehow following the journals and reading the latest research. I absolutely love the time I grew up in, to be able to watch the development of things to the point where now, I had been following a podcast called This Week In Virology since around 2009 and I knew from them that a new and deadly coronavirus was coming by the end of January 2020, months before the first case even hit US shores. Sure rumors and misinfo spreads faster, but the people actually working on things and pursuing the science are able to communicate instantly, and openly, so the only real limit is if you are curious enough and know to pursue primary sources - something that wasn't even remotely possible back then.
All "3" of you are lying. I believe all previous comments came from the same person. Because all three of you are lying and missing very obvious facts about HIV AIDS. You sir are a liar
All three of you are absolutely full of s***
2:00 I love that look of sudden interest and excitement in House seeing something's wrong and he has now a puzzle to solve
Leaving that guy in the room, after telling him to "cancel his travel plans", leaving him alone and wondering what was up was needlessly cruel even for House.
yeah this show can kinda get to me, like house walks in, doubts that black people can go to harvard, psudo-diagnoses him and leaves
@@senvr11eh, he doubts whether anyone can get to Harvard
To be racist you have to hate specific races, to be a jerk is a lot easier to maintain, don’t have to worry about remembering which races you hate
@@richardhobbs7360 i know what a racist is, I wasn't even saying that. also have you heard of the nazis before? they didn't just dislike one race
@@senvr11Hobbes never claimed that racists only disliked one race, only that they disliked specific races.
@@xandercorp6175 that positively does not matter
I love how much House's patients have an impact on him. It wasn't until he heard the senator's competing testimony on outlooks on people did he finally fold and test him again.
Senator is going to make a huge mistake creating Skynet. You need to get him to tell you where to find the microchip before it’s too late 😅
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
I love the look Foreman gives House when his leg fails to jerk forward.
Okay, I'm sure it's a thing that mostly editors will notice but the Senator clearly panics when told he has AIDS but the sound of the heart rate monitor in the background beeps normally instead of faster. I'll be charitable and say maybe they didn't want it to be distracting or add undue tension to the moment, but once you notice it you can't un-notice it.
You'd have loved my dad. He would point out faults in films like a plane flying overhead in a western or the white mark of a watch on an indian's wrist. Used to drive us crazy. We just enjoy the film for what it was - fiction.
Cant believe Miles Dyson survived that night at Cyberdyne
I know. What luck? Inadvertently creating something that's going to destroy humanity, then getting a disease that everyone thought would destroy humanity, when all along it was just ignorance that is going to destroy humanity.
Why are they calling toxoplasmosis a fungus? It's a parasite with a fascinating life cycle which does not usually involve primates of any sort.
Agreed
Because that's what the script said and apparently none of the actors or editors had cats
@@LaineyBug2020 It's a bit shocking that a medical drama gets something so simplistic wrong.
You'd expect the writers to have some knowledge of parasitology
@@Chriswsm Considering how wrong they got Naegleria Fowleri I'm not surprised.
Looks like the medical consultant was off that day.
I can't believe the guy who made the neural net processor that superconducts at room temperature is a politician now.
“The great black hope has full blown aids” lol tell me how else House is going to help a patient if it’s not with cynicism and some dark humor! The best doctor to ever be exist!
spoilers: he tested him again and he didn't have aids, it was a false positive ^^ patient laught at it ^^
What was it
@@damnmuggle He didn't bite his tongue as a child. He had a seizure. A virus that only effects children stayed dormant in his system untill the stress of campaigning lowered his immune system to the point a child-only disease starting making him sick again.
@@seabronc2484 Thank you!
4:30 b-b-b-believe me, this joke left me in stitches.
I was looking for this comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We need a compilation of all the times House wanted to cut into someone's brain
This is hilarious because the thing that gets their attention is his lack of reflexes, and doctors can never get my dad's legs to twitch. They end up just asking if he can feel his toes. 😂
Difference is this guy collapsed while walking down the stairs and was struggling to talk during a speech
@@thunderlighting2006 I have seen the episode. I just thought it was funny that reflexes were the first 'symptom' they actually recorded.
Remember Joe Mortens first indie movie role? "Brother from Another Planet". Not one spoken line and still a great performance
No
Yep, great movie!
I love House but this episode always drives me insane because Toxoplasmosis is not a fungus. It’s a parasite.
You are right, but also wrong and misleading. Toxoplasmosis is the name of the disease, which is caused by the species Toxoplasma gondii. Indeed, this species is not a fungus, but an apicomplexan protozoan (of the Phylum Apicomplexa). But it is a parasite, and there are many parasitic fungi species too. Parasitic is a type of lifestyle, it is not a taxonomical category.
@@matisattila2957 in short there are other ways to define this thing, with fungus being not one of them. they should've said protozoa or in layman terms, parasite
@@matisattila2957When you read a fucking Parasitology book, you won't see fungi. By that logic, pathogenic bacteria is also parasitic and every fungal species that can latch in and on you. Tell the patient he has a parasitic infection when he has MRSA. Try it. Tell me how it's not misleading.
“Someday there will be a black president” House predicting the future
actually, even more precise: "maybe someday there will even be a gay black president..." !
@@petya7105america's not ready for that. They still cant vote in a honest, good person.
Yes, a gay black president
@@JimmyBoy9878 An honest politician is a mythical creature, never seen in the wild.
@@petya7105exactly right
I kind of find it funny that they talk about how unlikely there'll ever be a black president, implying that it will be far in the future, but this episode came out in 2004, we got a black president 4 years later.
This episode was most definitely somewhat inspired by Obama and the mid 2000s discourse on Nom white presidents. In 2003-2004 when this episode would have been written and made Obama was already a rising star in the Democratic Party, currently a Illinois senator running to be a US senator during this time frame and was pinned as a potential future president for the 2008 election
Literally the next election cycle lmao
The fact that the senator thought House assumed the worst when he accused him of being gay speaks volumes. Homosexuality is the worst thing to him, so his denial is supercharged.
Like he could have never received a bad transfusion or slept with a woman, bc woman can't carry it or spread it. It does show his belief system about the disease and he is not far off from most senators and congressmen even nowadays.
That's not even close. He thought House assumed the worst in him that he was lying even in the face of a deadly diagnosis.
@@ProgThoughts But he was lying, even in the face of a deadly diagnosis in this episode. He lied or else they would have figured out what was wrong with him before he was on his death bed with a pressurized air mask and House has to pull it off of him and make him feel like he is dying from not being able to breathe to get the truth from him. HE DID LIE IN THE FACE OF A DEATH!!! HOUSE WAS RIGHT!!!
@@blackdandelion5549 I don't remember the episode too well. But if I remember correctly, it had something to do with the injury he got on his tongue, which was a story he told Foreman and House thought he was lying.
Instead he was telling the truth.
@@ProgThoughts He said that he fell off his bike and basically bit his tongue and it gave him a speech impediment to get over in his youth at approx 6 yrs old.
The Truth he finally tells House on his Death Bed when House takes his Oxygen away and I mean he is literally dying. . . . and still kept his lies up. . . . . .he didn't "fall" off his bike. He had seizures as a child and took meds to deal with his seizures. It was during a seizure he bit his tongue. After taking meds and being stable for several years in his childhood he stopped taking the medications for seizures. House was right that everyone lies and this was a lies that almost cost him his life even when a doctor can't tell your personal medical history. There was no reason not to tell House or any of the doctors he didn't "fall off" his bike. It was a lie and having good insurance because he wasn't raised "in da hood" like house said so his family got him diagnosed and treated for seizures and his speech issues right away.
4:30 i remember crying laughing at this.
Don't let that patient out, he's responsible for Skynet
I love watching this one so I can feel superior to the writers since I know Toxoplasmosis is an infection caused by the parasitic protozoan Toxoplasma gondii, not a fungus!
wow, it's true
Yea no doubt. I mean these guys get mad money and you would think they would hire a few competent doctors that would catch mistakes on this show and others. Come on now, with how many people watch the show frame by frame looking for oddities.
For what reason do you think they make such mistakes? Lazy, bad information or just think we are stupid?
@@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat I prefer to think one of the writers was being petty and did it on purpose to see how far along in production it would get...
@@LaineyBug2020 yea maybe. What other shows do you like?
@@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat I'm almost 40 so I like rewatching a lot of the older shows. I liked Bones a lot. I really enjoyed Joss Whedon shows like Buffy (Team Spike), Angel and Firefly. I keep meaning to try to start New Amsterdam because I liked the lead actor in Blacklist. I keep meaning to restart Blacklist since I stopped watching it around the time they suspended filming for the pandemic. I liked Medium a lot aside from the ending. I liked The Vampire Diaries and it's spin offs (Team Damon). For comedy I liked The Office, Friends (except Ross, lol), the originalrun of Will & Grace. I also love watching old reruns of Gun Smoke. I liked the CW Arrowverse a lot but have to get caught up on the final seasons. I loved the original Charmed. I watched ER a lot with my parents growing up & liked that. I would totally watch reruns of Designing Women if I had access to them. Then I also love watching anything on Discovery, ID & SCI. I used to like the History Channel but their all Ancient Aliens & Cryptozoology now. That's all I can think of at the moment but that gives you a general idea...
What about you?
This dude will never be anyone other than Miles Bennett Dyson to me.
I love how Foreman just eyes House the second the Senator's knee doesn't react. It's such a subtle scene but it says so a lot about their concern. I think it's really well done how House immediately puts down the game as soon as he sees the knee not react a second time. Hugh really sells House's sudden interest there.
6:53 Nothing quite like a Joe Morton monologue.
Joe Morton is truly a brilliant and captivating actor!!
Joe Morton is among my favorite actors.
8:15 Helluva prediction.
Cutting into a politician's brain? How are they gonna hit a target that small? HIYOOOOOOO!✋
🤚 can’t believe you were left hanging for two months
@@harleymoore441 I had faith, my brother/sister/nobody's business (delete as appropriate.)
@@dars5229 i got you XD
isn't this the dude that dies in one of the terminator movies, shows him taking his last breaths?
Michael Eric Dyson
With how tumed in House and his team are to extremely rare diseases and conditions, it always surprised me how they would never consider any other causes than AIDS when a patient has a compromised immune system. They always insist upon AIDS until it's almost too late
True, but one thing the show focuses on is that everybody lies. People with or at risk of HIV are more likely to lie about it because of the stigma. Nobody at risk of leukemia has a reason to lie about it but someone with a heroin problem can still look you right in the eye and tell you they've never done drugs.
I mean AIDS stands for Acquired ImmunoDeficiency Syndrome. I'm not a doctor, but it's possible that they use that term as a catch-all for "Your immune system was fine, now it's fucked"
*tuned
@@dars5229 Another huge recurring theme in House seems to be people being entirely unaware of their condition as well though. There's lying, and then there's straight up not knowing, which pretty much seem to be equal throughout the series.
Makes it seem like they don't learn much from these cases
It gets brought up less in later seasons, but in the beginning it was well established House's patients come to him when all other doctors cannot figure it out, so most of the time while it seems like they ignore the obvious stuff, its because the obvious stuff shouldnt have showed up on their table.
hello everyone ! have a nice day/night !
Thank you so much for not just saying 'first'. It's so refreshing
You too!
No, I refuse
Thx, you too ❤
Joe Morton is awesome
Oh! The patient was in Terminator 2! Well, his death in that was pretty definitive.
Well at least in this timeline he still wont live long enough to invent Skynet and the Terminators 🤷♂️
For the record Toxoplasma is not a fungi, it's a protozoan.
Had no idea this was a new video!
Denial is a river in Egypt
He will always be Miles Dyson to me.
is that a cross-country vacuum cleaner?
@@Dvpainteryou ever seen Terminator 2?
@@thedarkninja2000 an eon ago
You better not help that guy, he will start skynet
How did he survive that explosion at cyberdyne?
Simple. He got recruited to work in Eureka.
He didn't, he was replaced by a terminator
Different timeline. See the Sarah Connor Chronicles for details, or both of the Terminator movies.
Cant go wrong with House on a sauce afternoon
"Sauce" afternoon?
Like the late George Carlin said garbage in and garbage out!! This is the best we can do....
I love being reminded how brilliant this show was. Of course, I never need to be reminded, but enjoy the experience, just the same.
Bad episode to comment this under, this was one of the worst episodes medical-wise.
@@PRubin-rh4sr as someone who is no stranger to hospitals, I watch medical dramas purely for entertainment value. I rarely consider that something in a medical drama is genuine medical fact. My comment was purely because of the acting, the writing and the interactions between the characters.
@8:19 prophetic
Eli Pope? Is that you?
You know it must be scary to see a doctor who was berating you and openly goofing off change to a serious demeanor at a moments notice.
6:42 WHAT
Should I be worried that I used to pretend to move my leg as a kid whenever they did that? I only thought that's what we were supposed to do....
Dont they rutinely test for HIV in the US when you are admitted to the hospital?
I have been hospitilized twice, and they always draw blood at admission to test for HIV and I think something else, like hepatitis, there were 3 vials.
And here they did a surgery on him and did not even check for blood transmitted deseases?
That's a weak point I noticed in many episodes - having to go back and do routine blood tests that should have been done initially in any normal hospital.
Depends on your signs and symptoms and depends on the doctor. I dont think these bloodborne diseases are routinely done. Perhaps a CBC would be routine and you go from there based on its results.
HIV tests are not routinely done unless specifically asked for, as they have to be analyzed in a separate way from other diseases. HIV has a long incubation period, too, so it at that point took longer to figure out in the lab than the other viruses and such.
IT'S A RIVER IN EGYPT!
awesome episode and acting
I don't think toxoplasma is a fungus.
also it's definitely a malpractice telling a patient he has something you haven't tested for yet
"Toxoplasmosis is a fairly common fungus", hate to be that guy, but:
1) Toxoplasmosis is the name of the disease, not the organism that causes it;
2) 'Toxoplasma gondii', the causer of toxoplasmosis, is a protozoan, not a fungus;
3) You can't be infected by just "touching cat feces", you need to ingest the parasites cysts that are present in said feces;
4) I was lying when I said I "hate to be that guy", as I've spent the last 2 minutes writing this comment for a brief sense of superiority over a medical shows writers.
And I want to thank you for reminding me not to eat cat feces.
I've always enjoyed Dr. House and it's nice to see the show's clips still so popular. I never saw this episode, and I don't know enough about medicine to comment on whether any of Dr. House's other episodes are realistic but I can say with complete certainty that this episode is total nonsense. You can have the parasite in your brain without having AIDS.
My daughter was born an undiagnosed toxo baby. After her 2nd birthday, when her symptoms kicked in, the doctors surmised that her mom got infected by gardening in infected soil without gloves (she must have had a small unnoticed cut). We had recently moved to a tropical country in Central America four months before our daughter was conceived. We had no pets, just two friends who owned only dogs, and with our business just starting up, we weren’t dining out. The funny thing is, if we had waited 12 months after the infection before conceiving our daughter, she would have been fine. Of course, there was no way to know about the infection as it has no symptoms for healthy people.
It affects babies differently from adults owing to their underdeveloped immune system. The brain deals with it, without drugs, by encasing the parasite in calcium. You get these tiny calcified balls which irritate the surrounding tissue and sometimes enough to cause regular seizures later in life. The seizures can be reduced to irregular bouts by taking anti-seizure meds like Trileptal or more often with two types of anti-seizure meds taken 2 to 3 times daily. Untreated, the child develops hydrocephalus as the cerebrospinal fluid cannot drain owing to the calcium build-up also blocking certain ventricles. The cure, for that particular issue, is to place a shunt inside the skull and run a tube under the scalp down the neck, chest and into the stomach. The parasite can also destroy the retina. Fortunately, my daughter only lost sight in one eye.
Yes, BABIES can have toxo in the brain without having AIDS. That's why pregnant women are testes to thoroughly for toxo.
However, you might notice the senator was not a baby, hence the immediatey assumption that he had AIDS. = P
No. You're discrediting the idea in the scene based on an experience that seems similar. Their reasoning was solid. Their testing methods well established. They factored in all of the relevant evidence.
This is the guy that's responsible for Skynet
lol i knew i remembered his face from somewhere!!
AIDS is the only condition you cant blood test for without consnet . Anything else you can do aside form inavisve procedures
I wonder what skynet would say to this
"Tumors are good for brains, makes them grow big and strong."
It's Charles Bennet Dyson from Terminator 2 who created the processor for Skynet.
It’s not a fungi , it’s a protozoan unicellular organism…
Toxoplasma gondii isn't a fungus, it's protozoan.
I think the message of this season is that Billionaires should not exist. "his" money should have been taken as taxes and given to the hospital without him getting anything in exchange.
Not gonna lie, really hated the Vogler arc. The episodes themselves might’ve been good but I didn’t like the Vogler character.
Yeah I preferred Tritter as a villain.
Oh yeah. I understand what they were trying to do and the ideas they were trying to bring forward. The Vogler was a bad villain. And the actor didn't even play him well. Even those who didn't care for house but headed other departments would have raised hell professionally and voiced their concerns publicly.
He'd have a phlibotomist draw the blood.
Why does this episode seem like it has more medical mistakes than usual? For one, the knee jerk reflex is a somatic reflex which bypasses the brain entirely. So a failure to respond to that test does not indicate a brain issue. Second, toxoplasmosis is caused by a protozoan parasite (toxoplasma gondii), not a fungus.
TOXOPLASMOSIS IS NOT A FUNGUS FFS IT IS A PROTOZOAN PARASITE
Is this a prologue for Papa Pope?!
It's amazing that Miles Bennet Dyson was able to turn his life around after blowing up Cyberdyne.
How does the episode end
Miles bennit dyson from T2, oh my god,😮😮😮
When I was a kid, I went to the doctor for a routine check-up. The nurse hit my knee 11 times and I had no reaction. On the twelfth I faked it.... I'm ok, I think? LOL
0:58 Dr. House is playing a Generation I Nintendo DS, and yet there's a portion of the powerup sound effect from the NES game "Super Mario Bros." blended in with other random sound effects from other video games not exclusive to the Nintendo DS, and the sound quality isn't even close to resembling the DS speaker's quality. It sounds like the producers just gave him some random game console as a prop and threw a few random sounds together with little to no effort.
I love this type of comment
Toxoplasmosis is NOT a fungi. It is a parasite. Wow,…. I am quite disappointed in this episode.
Parasite doesn't tell us if it if a fungi, virus or bacteria.
1:55 ..and the reason House and team took so long diagnosing him was because he lied about the tounge lol
This channel has posted about this black politician a few times, but it's always the same scenes.
How does this episode end?
looks like mike dyson from terminator 2
Hey it's engineer guy from T2!
I always hated the tongue zoom. Very none-house.
Remember this guy was in Terminator 2?
the whol;e first year with vogle was dumb
But toxoplasmosis is not caused by a fungus. Toxoplasma gondii is a protozoa
"They don't call it The White House because of the paint job" It's genuinely shocking sometimes to see how pre-Obama this show is
"You're not going to be president either way. They don't call it the White House for a reason." Yup, this was definitely filmed before 2008 lol
House really nailed it with the "gay, black President" remark 😂😂
The Barry Soetero story
Hey that’s the guy from the Terminator!
8:19 Apparently we've already had one!
This man NEEDs to survive to destroy Skynet and save the world!
8:16
"Someday, there will be a gay president"
Washington: "Am I a joke to you?"
Braindead transbian trying to change history
Didnt Miles Bennett Dyson blow himself up?
Papa pope!
I hate the D in M.D is lowercase
I love you Lord. May God bless the reader.
Olivia popes dad lol