Cheapest diesel night heater on eBay test / review
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- čas přidán 19. 11. 2018
- Finally a clone of a Webasto heater. I've wanted one to try for a long time but they were always really expensive. My friend wants to fit one in his camper, so nows the time to see how well these work.
Fuel consumption - 250ml per hour on full power, 100ml per hour on low power
10A start-up current - 2A running on full power, up to 1A on low power
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This is best review of one of these heaters I have seen. It has all the info you need to know especially the electrical power consumption if your going to use it off grid
Love seeing the readings. Great test and analytics.
David, thanks for putting this together, I tried reading the manual for this and went looking for more info. this really helps.great and complete testing. I'm ready now
David, you have a God gifted quality to answer all the question that can arise in oir minds about this stuff.
I never hv seen a review taken that serious.
You are a next level reviewer.
Plz keep doing.
You are not doing a good job, rather a remarkable job.
I bought the enclosed heater with everything built in to a metal housing and put it in my electric Tuk tuk I imported from China too. It works great so I can drive it even in the winter
We over the road truckers have been using these heaters for years , bought mine in 05 and put it in my new 379 Pete .idling at nite was about a gallon of fuel an hour but these little heaters was a gallon for about 8hrs so it saved about 30 dollars a day to run instead of idling the truck.lot of money over a 15 year period.
Pat, do you use this same brand and size? Where did you mount it, under the sleeper?
I was thinking to put one in the truck also.
@@martinbenton742 I have a esspar ,mounted in the passengers side sleeper tool box and ducted in under the bed and out into the sleeper.it's on a thermostat set at 70 it will burn you out if set at 75 I like it a little cool when I sleep .I also have a thermo king tri Pac a.p.u. that Knicks on if my batteries get to low and runs a.c . In the smmer.
@@patreed4337 Great! Thank you for the information Pat.
@@martinbenton742 location makes it easy to run fuel line into passenger side tank and fuel pump out on the frame so you don't hear it.also exhaust runs out underneath the sleeper and out the back so no fumes.this Chinese one looks exactly like mine only difference is mine has a black case not red.
I used to work as a truck driver, my journey was a 30min drive and I'd usually take 3 or 4 trailer loads a day on the same trailer. On Mondays and Fridays it might only be 1 or 2. I used to take my wife with me, we'd stop at a burger van and get a bacon and egg roll, plus a coffee every time we passed, I'd place the coffee in front of the night heater duct -beside the drivers seat in a Scania (think it was a Webasto heater), eat the bacon and egg roll and usually fall asleep in front of the TV (we had to supply that, an inverter and aerial ourselves). When I would wake up, sometimes by the knocking of factory workers after they'd filled the trailer, there was a nice warm coffee waiting for me.
i live and learn everyday.. I never seen or heard of this equipment until today.. Great video and thanks for the readings and demo!
Very detailed revue without unnecessary talks ! Well done !
Really good review mate, love how your testing everything , especially current draw and that there is no carbon coming from the heating outlet 👌
I’ve found fitting an air filter to both air intakes helps with the noise, I got a cone type one off a car and it fitted perfectly.
Yeah because your filter blocks air intake
@@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat if it blocked the airintake a car would stall ;) Its because it dampens the sound not the air ;)
Good idea !
This is probably the best video I have seen put together with excellent filming and information, Great job. A person can see what is going on with videos like this. Thank You.
This blog was very helpful. I have just bought one of these, and can’t wait to fit it into my boat. Thanx.
We fitted a 5kw version of this heater in our Boat. It replaced an Erberspacher of similar design which was prooving to be problematical, repair costs alone were more than the cost of the 5kw heater (around £160). Must say the heat out put is good, heats 3 cabins. For us one thing I am considering is insulating the heat transfer tubes. Installation wise no problem at all we used the erber exhaust as that was the same size, and already had the correct through hull exhaust outlet. I did try using the erber fuel pump, which looked the same, but isn't. So first light up failed, just filled the marina with smoke. Using the correct pump solved the issue immediately.
your saying this heater runs off a 1 gallon per 24 hours amazing.
Diesel engines smoke like crazy when you are trying to prime the fuel for the 1st time, not sure why but once all of the air is gone they stop smoking. I'm thinking either this is why you had smoke initially or perhaps your old pump was the issue all along and it might have had an air leak or blockage somewhere.
If the repair bill was around £200 that sounds about the right price for someone to come and diagnose the problem and swap a pump. Perhaps all you needed was to swap the pump or it's plumbing in the 1st place.
I would keep your old heater incase the cheap one breaks down. Whatever was wrong with it, it might turn out better in the long run to repair the good quality one.
We havnt seen the issues you talk about. The fan runs whilst the unit is running on heat, but then slows in the cooling phase, and once the unit has reached a certain level the fan shuts down. With our Eber we had tons of issues, it was a couple of years old, and out of warrenty, spent £500 in repairs and still didn't function correctly, so was looking at a ton of cash to fix. So was more economic to try one of these. If it last 2 years I will just buy another and swap it over. So far i'm 50% there. @Robert Hersey
Link to the one you bought?
No wasn't the pump. The electronics pack failed on the heater, plus the ceramic glow plug. @@izzzzzz6
I just watched this whole video because your accent is so cool.
CZcams teaches me something new again. Never heard of it. Excellent job of examining.
I've seen these recently and have wondered how they work and whether you get CO etc in the cabin. Thank you so much for doing this and showing how these work how efficient they are and how self maintaining they are.
I put one of these in my small pop top caravan and it is the best thing since sliced bread !
You got a link where i can order one ?
@@jeroenb1155, did you just try to Google "diesel heater" or search those terms on Ebay? Seriously, you don't need a "link."
I'm looking for the best deal
Absolutely brilliant review i feel confident to get one now 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Another good service provided by DavidMcluckieDIY
Iv been using the 5kw version with no issues what so ever for about a year I’m now camping into winter in well below freezing 🥶
@@davidholgate5472 your saying this heater runs off a 1 gallon per 24 hours amazing.
I haven't seen a better test, you thought about everything plus the video description for ppl who can't watch it all. Keep the great work
Brilliant video and one of the most comprehensive tests I've seen on CZcams. As mentioned below, the fear with these units is always spare part availability but to be fair, the expensive brands also sell expensive parts and as other rightly say, they all need maintenance to prevent failures. At this price it's hardly worth buying spare parts anyway so you might as well buy the cheaper unit and give it a little TLC. I'm going to fit one to my VW T5 and spend the change on something useful (maybe a fire extinguisher and CO detector?).
Growing up in Sweden my dd had a - I'm pretty sure it was a Webasto - heater installed in his 1966 Plymouth. It had a timer so you could set it to kick in half an hour before you wanted to get going in the cold Swedish winters. Worked a treat.
Later, living in Minnesota, I had them just like the trucker below in all my semi trucks - only way to get a truck going after sitting over a weekend - and of course, like he says, a great way to stay warm and save diesel overnight.
your saying this heater runs off a 1 gallon per 24 hours amazing.
@@@ashyslashy5818 *I* didn't say that but that sounds about right. These heaters are fairly common on upscale cars in Europe and Scandinavia but not in the US or Canada where plug-in inline heaters are much more common (and a LOT cheaper).
No, it was a Webasto
thanks for this awesome review! that's how reviews should be done.
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Thank you for all that information. Most of us would not have the instruments you used to do all this testing, and it is excellent information and very helpful for making a decision about whether or not to purchase one of these cheaper units. I would love to see a comparison with a more expensive unit, but this was great! Thanks again!
I had no idea these existed. Very good job reviewing it.
Thanks for sharing. Great video.
After bingeing on AVE videos, a gentleman with a Scottish accent has made this minnesotans day.
Holy crap you probably just made David's day by comparing him to AVE
Very good video my friend and I love that stunning Orange pair of coveralls.
Sweet technology, these little heaters have been keeping me warm for many years in my 18-wheeler jail cell sized sleeper.
Hello Mauntie Peithaun🤣
this is how a review should be done! excellent
They also do an 8 kilowatt, you could heat your house with in an emergency Good bit of testing 👍
8kw! That's plenty of heat for an emergency as you say.
Now that’s a bloody good idea,,,,
@Waylander the Slayer He posted it in description, click on "show more".
@Waylander the Slayer online they are listed as 0.5-0.6L/hour.
aside from what packaging says ... they all(2kw, 4kw, 5kw 8kw) look to all be the same.
in fact sometimes I look at a 2kw and see 5kw indicated and sometimes see 5kw where 2kw was indicated ... then when I "think", I might have an inkling of what's going on, I see an 8kw unit.
Does anyone "really", what what one is to the other?
Very good testing.
Very noisy unit but for the price very good.
Not any louder than my Webasto. Install it enclosed with something like Dynamat to insulate and noise is negligible.
Yea, the noise level was a bit high
Lol. Usually you route the noise (exhaust) through the wall.. will be much quieter than this test... like inside a car compered to next to muffler.
Only noisey because of his set up. Most of the noise is from the burner air intake and exhaust which are on the outside so do not hear it in the vehicle. At med to low speed you don't hear it at all.
Yea most of them are kinda noisy but with it installed under the vehicle and using ducting to bring the heat inside you wouldn't hear it much
Great review, I appreciate the measurements. Also good video and audio work.
I was gonna say it's a combination of John Cleese and Montgomery Scott. Both of whom I love.. could listen then chatter on about nothing all day! Keep up the good work my friend!!
It’s fun to watch your videos with the sound off and closed captions on - and try and figure out what you are doing.
I also have to try and figure out what he is saying even with the sound on.
I have work in the morning and I should be asleep I do not know what this is and I do not have a caravan what am I doing here
moustachelessness my question is - did you get up/get to work on time?
F#@k im in the same boat here.
Me too. I have no interest in sleeping rough in a van, so Why am I compelled to watch this to the end?
This is me right now although I just realised I scrapped a van with one of these in the back and looked it up and they are on eBay for over £800! :( lol
I don't have a boat or a caravan either but I'm gumming to find out the KW output of this device.
Greetings from Montreal, Québec, Canada! My better half and I are looking to camp in my 2015 Tacoma with insulated LEER aluminum cap, in -20 deg. C. temperatures, hoping this little unit will get the job done!
Your test video is awesome dude! Keep up the good work!!
Bin looking for this review. Now I’m getting one. Thanks!
Bin looking.Is he Bin Ladens brother?
That‘s what i call a complete review! Thanks a lot.
They are great job as our ambulances are fitted with those :) Advice if you have it fitted , say a Van and your heading home etc turn it off as your heading home and let the excess fuel burn off before parking your Vehicle. Further as they take a round 10 amps to ignite run your engine for a few mins before turn your heater on in the vehicle, yes one going well it will only take a few amps to run the heater as a rule. We from time to time would add a fuel cleaner to the Diesel fuel and we have tested most fuel cleaners in our ambulances and I would recommended ( Diesel Ecomax ) as we have found the glow plug in the heater last a lot longer and no miss fires and of course will also keep your vehicle glow plus running well. Avoid if you can Super Market Diesel Fuels as they are as a rule low grade fuel. Please note I am in no way attached to any fuel company which would include and fuel cleaners but I am involved with our ambulances with over 35 years experience in that field and on a foot note Ecomax will NOT damage your heater or the glow plug.
Wow... what a nice deal. Incredible handy dandy thing! Good to know, never knew they could be so small.
I ran a piece of heavy equipment that came with one of these heaters in it. I loved it !!!!!
This is really nice. I might have to buy two of these for my bus. I plumbed in a propane forced air furnace, but refilling propane tanks is a pain. I can only get 1 night or two in the 30s with a 10lb tank. Using 1 gal of diesel, even at $4/gal is much cheaper and convenient.
your saying this heater runs off a 1 gallon per 24 hours amazing.
No, another comment from a trucker said he used 1 gal a night. It's probably 1 gal per 8 hours or so.
IS THIS THING THE WORLDS SMALLEST DIESEL ENGINE OR A RAMJET.@@HimmelbergerBus
I got one ordered and on the way, propane is just too costly per btu. A 5KW diesel heater is about 18000btu.
You can buy an 8kw heater with 4 port/ outlets for about $28 more. 8kw is enough for the average house size in the UK. 8KW equals 27292 BTU
You have a good point: at this price, just carry a SPARE! I rebuilt an Espar (Airtronic) 5DL 4800 Watts of heat from 80W of 12v and a bit of diesel. (CZcams search that title) The pre-ignition chamber used a special catalytic screen (a weird copper alloy) around the glow plug. That reduced the current and time needed to get the "flame" on. So there IS a difference in efficiencies, i believe. Longevity and vibration resistance count too.
Thank you for the comprehensive report. I would put one in my camper.
Loving the delivery!
Sounds a bit like Billy Connolly opening Xmas presents!🤣🤣
Anthony Baiocchi I was thinking Ken Bruce :-)
An' whoots wrang wi' rat? Is youse ha'en a go at wur accents? Gie's a break. Hiv ye's heard yersels? Awa an' bile yer heads, ya big Jessies.
LOL. He does sound like Billy Connolly.
PrepComms UK i was thinking of "groundskeeper Willie" on the Simpsons
You mean scottish.
I just watched a video where the soot built up on low setting and you should turn it up at least once a day to burn off the soot. :)
Love this video and all of the tests!! Thanks a ton!
New Sub here. I found your video while troubleshooting my Freightliner's Sleeper Heater.
Only 2 Liters of fuel consumption for eight hours of sleeping is very efficient!
Make sure you place the Heat Vent near the floor (with plenty of open space in front of it) if you want to have warm boots when you wake up! 😉
Also very thorough testing method! I appreciate your attention to detail, as those meters are very expensive!
Sound proof box help with the noise ? As long as still exhausted outside.?
Heidi Bennett to make things quiet , make a box from air conditioning fiberglass duct board...foil side out...
I've never had much doubt that Chinese-made products work at first. It often seems to be the longevity of the equipment that is the issue. Like many people, I would tend to just take my chances and hope for the best.
Whilst there's a fair share of "cheap junk" out there, a lot of chinese stuff is as good as (if not better than) the originals. Chinese engineers are just as smart as anyone else and the quality of a lot of "british" or "european" designs leaves a hell of a lot to be desired (as one example, look at the shockingly poor reliability of Range Rovers, BMWs, Volkswagens and their component parts along with just about any european luxury or "supercar" - the latter two categories will break if you look sideways at them.)
Who remembers the days when everyone thought "japanese == junk" ?
Thank you very for this fascinating,instructive,beautiful,educational,inspiring video!
Coolest video I've seen in a while. No pun intended.
Interesting video thanks for sharing. What thermal camera do you have there?
It's a Flir One gen 2. I'd like a gen 3 Pro but can't really justify the cost.
@@DavidMcLuckie If I watch your adverts will you buy one :D
So this is where it all started! Look how clean your jumpsuit is,.. we need a campaign to get you a new one now (2 years latter). Thanks for doing every conceivable test on these heaters, I really feel like I have come up the learning curve with your works. -S
Yeah, they've been washed a few times. Doesn't really get them much cleaner, just makes them less orange.
Watching u with closed caption on is more entertaining than alot of other ppls videos
bought a 5kw version of these to heat an 18x24ft garage,it works a treat have extended the 4 pipes supplied to spread the heat around (2 in the ceiling 2 in corners). it gets to about 18 degrees after about an hour which is perfect for working on a cold day . uses 2.5 litres over a 10 hour period , i am running it on a deisel /kerosene mix , but i reckon this will run happily on heating oil ...bargain !
The most annoying thing about these units is the ticking of the pump . I have mine mounted underneath the caravan and you can hear it even though it is rubber mounted . One thing that does make it quieter is to make sure there is no air bubble in the fuel line and also if you can procure some formed rubber 90 deg elbows one on the input side and one on the delivery side , note they must be the “ formed” elbows . The thinking is that the impulse noise is negated somewhat by the tight curve in the elbow.
What about suspending the pump from rubber bands? Like a shock mount for a microphone.
David McLuckie the shock is transported by the fuel line as well . Hhhmmm rubber bands , I’m thinking not 😂😂
Would these run on biofuel? I have a chippy nearby me who can give me free used oil (filtered).
@@simonmoore8414 I wondered that, too.
I would be cautious of using used fryer oil, unless you had a way to filter it quite well prior to introducing it to the fuel tank. On big highway trucks, these heaters are plumbed to the big saddle tanks, so whatever you feed your big engine, the heater will run on. I remember the documentation for some of the Espars and Webastos that I have had, they could use anything from #1 diesel, #2 diesel, stove oil, furnace oil, kerosene, probably jet A, but that would be a mighty expensive choice. The older generations from years ago would use gasoline or diesel, not sure about the latest versions using gasoline anymore. I would get a nice clean batch of used fryer oil, add it to your vehicle's diesel tank, and see what happens. Diluted down, shouldn't be a problem, but not sure if it would be happy with pure fryer oil. Most times you need the heater to ward off cold, so imagine how your equipment would do, trying to suck up congealed used French fry oil when it's below freezing outside.
Thanks mate you've answered all my questions in one video
Ah the lovely hum of a bunk heater. I so miss that sound from when I was OTR. This, my Tri-Pak and the reefer unit would lull me to sleep. I hated when I had a load that didnt require the reefer to run 24/7, always woke me up when it kicked off then I would roll and roll till it kicked back on.
I've got one of these Chinese ones brought from ebay and had it for a few months now and it's been working great. First thing I would do before you start it is to check the fan spins as mine was push on to far so had to pull it a little. They are really efficient. I've got the 5kw version and have it on full blast for 4-5 hours and use less then 2 litres of fuel. Also they run fine on 50/50 diesel/used cooking oil 😉. Might even get one for the house 😂😂
Thank you for that. It is the noise that is putting me off.
@beckys2222 I said less than 2 litres and at 25p litre for me it is😉😉
You don't have to used "white" road use diesel. You can use red diesel in the UK or green diesel in Ireland. Worse case you can use heating oil (kerosene) at 60 odd pence per litre.
@beckys2222 well if you do your research on diesel and you will realise that you don't have to use diesel in these heaters I use old cooking oil😉... but if your lazy like most people in this country you will just keep going to the petrol station and pay the high amounts of tax on fuel but then complain about it but then still use it... sorry rant over. So yes they are efficient and I am not misleading people👍
Another source of untaxed kerosene is jet fuel, available from your local general aviation airfield perhaps. Not sure of the price at the moment but I think it's around 75p-90p a litre. I would expect central heating kerosene to be a bit cheaper but you normally have to buy that in large quantities to have it delivered I guess.
"They might take our lives, but they'll never take our diesel!!!!"
I installed mine last week, in a cargo trailer conversion camper. With the intake and exhaust through the floor and the heater at temp running on low, it's very quiet. The fan settles down to a low level and the pump or exhaust can't be heard inside at all. Thanks for posting this, I did watch it before I installed mine and you were helpful with my decision to go with a diesel heater.
Thank you Mate,David in the late 70s I had a similar heater in the 113 Personnel carrier.A diesel fulled,Hot air heater.It was nice to get hot water also for out LRP Dehydrated meals.73s
The a380 airbus burns 81,890 gallons a day of kerosene, Heathrow airport consumes 25 million litres of kerosene a day it makes this little heater sound quiet economical.
alfred william Good luck flying to New York on it though.
A380 gets better milage than a Prius. Also 81,890 "a day" isn't accurate. That's just the capacity. From full capacity, it's enough to travel 25,000KM which it won't do in a single day.
@@hippopotamus86 The a380 uses 9 gallons per mile or 21L per KM
Andy [Xvixx] did you take into account the number of passengers in an A380 compared to a Prius
Burning nitrogen
When the dude is wearing a safety suit, you know it’s going to be a good video. 🤣
Thanks for the video. Very instructive to see how these heaters work. I am planning some heating for my van and this has been a great help. I,m off to have a look at your other videos for more Ideas and will subscribe,
Love watching your stuff mr brilliant
I think if u incorporated the exaust heat from pipes an muffler so the heat coulld be exchanged into the camperit would work much bettter in cold weather climates simply build heat exchanger that allows the heat to enter the camper ,,useing fire proof material of course ,wouldnt even need to catch the actual exaust i dont think unless u used to force the heat off the pipes and tru tubing wrapped around the exaust as part of the heat exchanger
Good review, I don’t know off hand the decibel level of a Wabasto but this unit sounded a bit rattling and noisy
Compared to the Wabasto units I seen in Semi Trucks out of North America. If I was using a heater every day
While parked and staying in a Van, RV Or Truck. I would have a proven product with superior quality parts.
-30 degrees F. Is no time to put trust in Cheaper knock offs.
Especially if they have a dual function of keeping the Truck engine warm too!
In Conclusion: The Chinese brand will probably serve the weekend warriors ok.
Great thermal camera shooting! To improve the fuel efficiency, the heater owner can install a corrugated pipe for the burner bottom inlet air (catching air outside the building) around the exhaust pipe that goes outside too, absorbing the "wasted" exhaust heat.
I was thinking of adding a coolant loop under a blanket around exhaust pipe, and a second radiator at the other end of said loop to extract wasted heat from exhaust.
@@TheQade The blanket is not necessary because the main objective is to heat up the indoors. Exhausting the burned gases to the outdoors is mandatory, so, cold fresh air from the outdoors will always comes in. The higher the temperature difference between fluids, the better the heat exchange, so less paraphernalia (investment/space) is needed. That's the reason behind "ducting" the fresh outdoor air. But you can simply use a very long exhaust pipe instead and don't mind about where the fresh air is entering from.
Thank you for making this wonderful video. And that you work so scientifically. This helped me a lot.
hmm, Google does watch what you're searching. I was just looking at these heaters an hour ago. And it just came up in my recommendations.
Unless of course you are looking at firearms or things the totalitarian wanna be rulers disapprove of.
Of course they do, it’s tracking for advertisers. How else are you supposed to place products and services in front of people that could potentially purchase them?
@@jpwdowiak I'd rather get adds that may interest me, than random ads for shite that doesn't. That model means so much lost revenue for the person buying the ads, as I'm not buying say tampons, but I may buy a heater etc... Also Google (In this case) can charge more per add, the customer pay less overall, as less adds needed, and we the end user see relevant adds.
It's a win, win, win set up.
@@3Mudbone1 I looked up 'Republican politics' and got 2 recommendations : toys for toddlers, and how to land on the moon.
They have a huge plant in Siberia with 1000's of staff who follow traffic and make recom'ns using a switchboard. They also have lightning-fast-thinking staff who predict your search while you type it. Google has videos about it, look it up.
id run the exhaust thru the biggest old radiator i had theres ALOT of cash flyin our that exhaust pipe i wonder what the efficiency is
Love the idea!!!
By doing that you could add an electric fan to the radiator and put out even more heat.. And everything would still be running on 12volts..
The exhaust pipe requirements are very rigid and specific. The engine sounds like a small jet engine but its tiny and extremely efficient.
@@wallacegrommet9343 that'll be due to pressures and cross flows and the like, a pump or 2 could mitigate surely.
Great test ,thanks for taking the time.
What a cool Test! Can't stopp smyling😁😁😁
Having read and answered one or two comments on here, it occurs to me that if we all combined our ideas into one product it would be bloody amazing. Might even be a world saver!!
Finding an alternative (non carbon) fuel source would be a really good start. Bear in mind also, diesel engines were originally designed for burning peanut oil and other natural vegetable products. Please discuss......
Glycol (glycerine) is a biodiesel manufacturing waste material. Very inexpensive, I would be curious to see if this heater would run on it as it's extremely cheap and renewable also. Formula E electric race cars are using it to power their charging diesel generators, look it up on Google. The only caveats being they have to warm the engines up on diesel first, and also that glycerin (glycol) has only 70% of the energy potential.
Other than smelling like a thousand burning skillets, it works fine.
@@villagelightsmith4375 Were you referring to vegetable oil? Because yes, but not glycerine...
www.motorship.com/news101/fuels-and-oils/nobodys-fuel...-yet
Haven’t tried it but wondering what the chances are to run these I used (well filtered) cooking oil.
My engines run on it very well.
But you might have to tweak it to kat the glow plug stay on a lot longer to start a continuous combustion. That however uses battery power...
@@ProlificInvention If you use waste vege oil/tallow directly then you don't generate any glycerine to have to get rid of.
Tallow: Yes really. Diesel engines will run on this happily as long as it's kept flowing (ie, hot)
LoL I want one of these just for the sake of having it.
Just discovered these Chinese knockoff heaters and how cheap they actually are. I dont have a van. But I think im gonna buy one.
Got exactly the same one for my caravan.. didn't use the piddling plastic 3/16 od fuel hose, upgraded it to 3/16 id fuel hose... just run it on low all night, sometimes even still too hot.. lovely to jump up in the morning.. uses bugger fuel per night, & as you showed 1 to 1.5 amps.
Just bought one for my t4. Thanks for the video.
Do you reckon we need to mount that outside the van underneath? It's noisy AF.
r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Evwt4forum%2Eco%2Euk%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D594737&share_tid=594737&share_fid=157455&share_type=t. Seems a silencer on the air intake pipe helps a lot
Outside in a box with vibration isolation can only help.
Its running flat out mostly in the vid, and the fan sounds awful compared to mine which looks the same. get an lcd controller and you can set the max and min fan speeds, my fuel pump clicking is the loudest part of my set up when its warmed up and only Maintaining the temp.. I suspect his fan is rubbing against the casing or is otherwise slightly damaged.
@@miccheck1516 I'd just like to say that it was running in the workshop, which is just a big metal box. I've also got really good mics, so the sound in the video may not truly represent the actual sound your ears would hear if it was installed properly. It's not like I had to shout over it, or was going deaf next to it.
@@DavidMcLuckie Yer mics are baws mate
I bought this for my electric vehicle.
Hahahaha.... That's funny. 😂😂😂
Great review! I'm buying one as we speak ;) keep up the good work
Great video, I have one in the 18 wheeler I drive. I've always wondered how they work. Mine sound like a jet when it first starts up. But gets very quiet after about a minute. It will run for 10 hours then automatically shuts off. To keep batteries from dieing.
It is better with a 2kW unit and run it full speed then a 5 or 8kW running on low as they will soot up when the burn chamber is not at optimal temperature.
2kw 5kw 9kw there all the same unit they just slow the pump speeds down on them.
@@16vastraturbo Really? Yikes. 9kw would need a lot more fan air volume than 2kw so it doesn't melt down.
LOl........... shop is like mine. Every time I change my mind something falls and hits the floor.
LMAO! It's called talent Robert. Multi tasking is a skill that takes years to perfect.
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for! 👍 Thanx for the video! 💪🔥😃
Ran them for years, the Espar, Webasto, and Eberspacher brands. Once the desired cab or sleeper temperature is achieved, the blower slows down a lot and they don't make much noise all night long.
Can confirm after testing, this unit also does the same.
4:46 -- Instructions ? I don't need no stinkin' instructions.
How much fuel does it use?
It says in the description
That model like VERY similar to the Eberspacher / Espar heaters! I have rebuilt and repaired many many of those units. Parts are unreasonably expensive (blower motor - $350 USD). Nice to have an alternative!
Fabulous review, well done
Will it run on used oil
I'll put that in a part 2 video.
i would think you would need to strain it through something .. but it should right if theres no bits of stuff floating in it
@@watcheronthewall2463 There's no real need to strain it.... IF you have a place to store your used oil for 3-6 months before use (longer is better)
Gravity will do the legwork for you. All you need to do is draw from the top of the storage tank instead of the bottom. People achieve this by using a float and hose to a side takeoff.
(and setup your filler so it puts oil in at about 1/3 height of the container rather than pouring onto the top)
At that point all you need to do is use a couple of suitable strainers on the filler of the storage container to remove the "big bits" when pouring it in.
Nice prison jumper
I bought a chinese heater from HAPPYBUY it worked great for two and months then began overheating i tried to get the problem corrected but they do not have parts to help me .They told me that they would give me a discount of 60% so i am stuck with a heater that does not work andi am out about 70.00.
My old(er) VW Van came with a gas heater of this type, I believe straight from the factory. It kept the inside of that big boxcar of a vehicle rather warm through northern Minnesota winters. Also, these vans had a gear reduction at the ends of the rear axles, this geared the van for more power at any speed as well as provided greater ground clearance for the underside of the van floor. The only type heater that works for the described circumstances.
Great work mate... am converting a new t6 and wondered if these made sense... I think they do... it’s a little worrying that it sucks 10amps for a few minutes... great video, thumbs up from me
Can it run well on kerosene, biodiesel or vegetable oil? Since diesel is taxed heavily for road use and tax free red diesel (off road use) is not readily available to the public.
I'm going to test it on various fuels in part two.
I've got a boat and I buy red deisel off the boat yard but a few years ago the money grabbing government uped the tax on it !!
It should work with those as diesel engines do too.. The vegetable oil might clog it up.
Yes vegetable oil will more then likely cause fouling, but it's worth exploring to what extent. Kerosene/heating oil as it's tax free, similar to diesel and biodiesel as it's a polar solvent and may cause leak's.
I had them run on dyed or clear diesel. I remember the documentation of several of the Espars and Webastos of my past stating that they would run kero, diesel #1, #2, stove oil, furnace oil. They would probably burn jet A, but that would be very expensive, and probably hard to get in small quantities. The vegetable oil might have a higher gel point, and tend to congeal in cold weather. You could try adding used fryer oil to a vehicle's diesel tank to mix with the diesel though.
I wonder if you could silence it somehow, also scavenge some heat of the exhaust pipe.
I wouldn't extract too much heat from the exhaust, for fear of causing condensation in the pipe.
good point
@@petermcarthur7450 condensation would occur but wouldn't that evaporate? and couldn't you scavenge some exhaust heat with a long exhaust hose under flooring tile or the like?
@@COLOURSCAPEARTS You're not going to get evaporation and condensation happening under the same conditions.
Do you mean the condensation will trickle back to where the gas is hotter and evaporate there? That just means you have cooler, more humid gas coming through the pipe, which makes the condensation problem worse.
It is possible to build a highly efficient underfloor heating system that uses flu gas. They're quite specialised things, but when they work, they work well. But for one of these diesel heaters, just stick to the manufacturer's recommendations. If you can extract some waste heat from the flu pipe while still following those recommendations, I guess that's fine.
Great vid and review, thanks for sharing. These look great for the price now. I’m sure one could come up with a decent heat exchanger between both the exhaust and the hot air output to have a great hot water alternative for campers or houses with these units and probly a good heating solution for very cold climate living incorporated with a hydronic system I would guess it would could be very efficient.
i have a webasto in my toyota hiace camper,its great but if I ever need another,I will get one of these .Thanx for making this video
I live in Arizona what is this thing?
This is AC unit for Arizona. Greetings from Chicago.
@@vitoldsali9071 yea i got family in Az and my cus said he used that to keep his balls cool on a hot day lmfao.... Btw greetings from Rockford
It's a way those that live in colder climates are burning more fossil fuel to create more greenhouse gas to try to get our temps to be the same as Arizona.
No shit I live in Tucson n I'm thinking about getting one... Like I'd Know what to do with it.
You guys lucky in Chicago...don’t need air conditioning...😅