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  • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldenham...
    The Aldenham Works, or Aldenham Bus Overhaul Works, was the main London Transport Bus overhaul works. It was located on the edge of the Hertfordshire village of Elstree and not Aldenham despite being officially called Aldenham Works. In its heyday, 50 buses a week were overhauled there, and it was the most comprehensive bus overhaul operation in the world. It was opened in 1956 and finally closed in November 1986. The buildings were demolished in 1996.
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    british bus overhaul depot - routemaster - aldenham - london transport
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  • @Muttleytech
    @Muttleytech Před 8 lety +194

    The once highly skilled middle class that took pride in their work no longer exists today. What a job to have. It was a lifetime career.

    • @rickhctep1503
      @rickhctep1503 Před 8 lety +19

      +Mutleytech
      Nobody has any pride in ANYTHING now a days, if you mentioned the word work in front of 60% of the people in this country they would faint or have a heart attack.

    • @simonprice8737
      @simonprice8737 Před 6 lety +36

      Working class mate, middle class were the managers and executives, working class drivers painters, panel beaters, metal workers, mechanics, all skilled workers..... different world now !!!

    • @wcstevens7
      @wcstevens7 Před 5 lety +28

      simon price ..Skilled, dedicated men. Not a computer in sight...Those were the days, gone forever by greedy, useless bloody scumbag politicians.

    • @Rich6Brew
      @Rich6Brew Před 4 lety +4

      @@simonprice8737 Working class covers anyone who has to work for income. Only those that have private incomes escape that moniker.

    • @aureol40012
      @aureol40012 Před 4 lety +5

      Where have they gone? Not sure what you are saying, nobody takes pride in their job?! Speak for yourself.

  • @colinmutter903
    @colinmutter903 Před 6 lety +67

    What a fabulous documentary,this should be compulsory viewing for children in all schools.Then they could see how their great and grandparents worked.

    • @warvex
      @warvex Před 4 lety +1

      colin mutter I watched it when I was 7

    • @McRocket
      @McRocket Před 4 lety +3

      colin mutter - Agreed. But I wish they would please find a way to lose the loud, circus music.

  • @andicog
    @andicog Před 5 lety +35

    What a shame that the government don't realise that this is the most efficient and environmental way to run a vehicle, it's repaired or overhauled rather than being replaced. A new car takes more energy and causes more pollution to build initially than it will use and produce in its life. Mini turn out 1000 cars a day, if we all kept the cars we had, upgraded the engine to the latest spec every few years (as LT did with Routemasters) we would do far less harm to this planet than buying new all the time.

    •  Před 4 lety +2

      Governments don't manufacture vehicles. They are made by private companies.

    • @andrewstorey3395
      @andrewstorey3395 Před 3 měsíci

      There are no Routemasters in this video!

    • @andicog
      @andicog Před 3 měsíci

      @@andrewstorey3395 Did I say that there were Route masters in this video?

  • @tattyshoesshigure5731
    @tattyshoesshigure5731 Před 7 lety +39

    Aldenham Overhaul Works was a great place to 'bus spot' in the school holidays. We could only dream of actually getting into the place to see the rare treasures within, so wandering the perimeter fence with a good pair of binoculars was the order of the day. When the workers finished their shift a parade of about 20 buses left the Works to carry them to their various 'home' locations, and that was a treat to see as many of the buses were rare, out of service ones like pre war RT's. Happy days!

  • @___Steinn___
    @___Steinn___ Před 4 lety +34

    Great piece of history. When a man's work was worth something...

  • @scopex2749
    @scopex2749 Před 7 lety +73

    Makes me feel good to be British to see the pride and care the older generation took in their work and the quality of the finished busses. They looked as good as they day they were built. You never seen such dedication anymore to such things, its all slapdash and done as quick as possible. Im always seeing modern busses with their engine covers open beside a road with smoke or steam coming out. Such a shame. The RT,s and RM,s could have gone on forever if this works still existed, it actually SAVED MONEY for LT. Todays methods are, "oh just rip it out and buy a new one!"

    • @ChilternTransportProductions
      @ChilternTransportProductions Před 5 lety +4

      If they had the old attitude rather than the new attitude, they could still keep good old Euro 2 Tridents and DB250s going into 2020 and beyond, with only a refurbishment to include WiFi and USBs required! But no, not with a "replace them with new, up to date stuff" attitude they won't....

    • @muffinthemoggy4359
      @muffinthemoggy4359 Před 2 lety

      Re; “rip it out & buy a new one” the irony of save the planet 🤦🏼‍♂️. 🇬🇧 government gone down hill.

  • @rdownmakeITbetter
    @rdownmakeITbetter Před 4 lety +22

    Lovely film! Such care and pride taken. When I was a kid, my neighbour drove for Crossville buses in North Wales. Every year he would take his old Ford Cortina into the works where they would steam clean the underside then spray it with that silver paint (probably contained all sorts of harmful chemicals) then cover every moving part in grease. Oddly enough, that car never rusted or wore out and passed the annual inspection without issue. It's all about maintenance!

  • @mikser
    @mikser Před 3 lety +7

    Nostalgia for a time when recycling actually meant something. Never again will so many skilled craftsmen be employed in such a worthy enterprise.

  • @tonyj9395
    @tonyj9395 Před 9 lety +24

    What a great film and it brought fantastic memories back from when I worked there and did my apprenticeship. Great design and layout of the busses in those days and also the Aldenham Works which was a fantastic place to work. Such a shame that it was forced to close down as the care and attention of our public transport has declined ever since!

  • @Theogenerang
    @Theogenerang Před 4 lety +29

    Looks like an interesting job with a lot of potential for taking pride in your work. Nice video.

  • @rondobson9774
    @rondobson9774 Před 5 lety +16

    I used to work on the rts and rms and rmls on London transport in the 70's as a conductor I worked out of new cross garage and my late father was a chief mechanical engineer at Camberwell bus garage

  • @mikenoble1699
    @mikenoble1699 Před 8 lety +186

    when public transport was run as a service.... rather than profit

    • @tonydelo7292
      @tonydelo7292 Před 4 lety +8

      @proteusx Yids with Boris Johnson...again trying to fleece the public

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg Před 4 lety +1

      @@tonydelo7292 They always fleece the public, and they always will: they own the system and the political set-up and there's no way ever that it can be changed: it'll only get worse.

  • @davidluck4608
    @davidluck4608 Před 8 lety +220

    I think we've somehow lost the "plot".....we showed the world how to professionally maintain our buses.....then we "let" politicians destroy a very unique and "British" way of doing things......

    • @Ben31337l
      @Ben31337l Před 8 lety +22

      +David Luck The railways are the same too... We no longer make our own trains, instead we import them.

    • @paultindall2719
      @paultindall2719 Před 8 lety +11

      +David Luck spot on mate.

    • @Ben31337l
      @Ben31337l Před 8 lety +16

      Paul Tindall An impressive example would be the tilting train, the concept was made by us, it failed which the Italians took the idea and perfected the concept.
      Later, they sold the tilting system back to us in the form of the pendilino.
      I'd prefer the APT over that monstrosity any day of the week because in my opinion, it looks much better than it, not to mention that it is British.
      We take so much inspiration from other countries that I feel that the UK really is loosing its identity and proud heritage as innovators.

    • @Ben31337l
      @Ben31337l Před 7 lety +7

      Mike Lloyd To be honest, the old routemasters were ageing, but what replaced them was less efficient so they regretted that they were replaced at all.
      So much for London's replacement buses.
      Besides, they look god awful I have to say.

    • @mebeasensei
      @mebeasensei Před 7 lety +8

      Even before the narrator told us about the 1985 decision to close it down, I knew it would have been impossible to survive Margaret Thatcher's Britain. On the other hand, I was not surprised it survived all the industrial unrest and decline of the competitive motor industry of the 60s and 70s, because it had no natural competitor. So it was a perfect target for closure once 'protected industries' had been exposed. I can imagine people having their cups of tea at tea break, discussing the plant's future and how unionized it must have been.

  • @euanelliott3613
    @euanelliott3613 Před 3 lety +6

    RIP Bob Grant (Jack Harper) and Reg Varney (Stan Butler).
    Every time I see old buses I think of you both laughing.

  • @tocaat2410
    @tocaat2410 Před 4 lety +12

    What jolly background music - made me think I was listening to a fairground organ.

  • @Darwinion
    @Darwinion Před 12 lety +23

    It's all about making as much money as possible. Back in the day this film was made the top priority was actually providing a decent service.

  • @tamjames1496
    @tamjames1496 Před 3 lety +5

    My goodness how lovely is this. I absolutely adore those red route master buses. I'm an ex Rolls Royce car painter and can relate to the pride in attitude and ability that these workers have. The UK i remember has now long gone, but posts like this puts a smile on my face because this was a time when the 'Great' in Great Britain actually meant something.

    • @damonwilliams5033
      @damonwilliams5033 Před rokem +1

      Strictly speaking the buses were the much more numerous and in my opinion more handsome RT type AEC Regent IIIs not Routemasters.

  • @rogerauclair1670
    @rogerauclair1670 Před 3 lety +3

    During the 1970s and 1980s I was a bus conductor at Riverside Bus Garage in Hammersmith and whenever we had a bus come back to us from Aldenham Bus Overhaul Works, it looked and even smelled like a brand new bus.

  • @stefankassbohrer2765
    @stefankassbohrer2765 Před 4 lety +5

    Such work would be priceless today. Hardworking, skilled men ! With respect, best regards from south Germany

  • @metalman4141
    @metalman4141 Před 4 lety +4

    I worked in exactly the same environment in Birmingham’s bus repair works, Tyburn rd in Erdington as a sheet metal worker.
    I can honestly say we did exactly the same work as London city transport the skill levels of all involved were outstanding and if you needed a job doing from any of the trades on questions ask as long as the favour was reciprocal.
    Brilliant times never to be repeated unfortunately but glad I was lucky enough to have been part of it .

    • @ianwatts8446
      @ianwatts8446 Před 3 lety

      But BCT/WMPTE weren't allowed to swap vehicle identities like London Transport...most LT RT,RF and Routemasters have carried 4/5 different registrations and fleet numbers as they've passed through the overhaul process in their lifetimes..all to save a road tax. My mate Austin Jones used to work at Tyburn Road...sadly the works has all been knocked down now..

    • @metalman4141
      @metalman4141 Před 3 lety

      @@ianwatts8446
      I knew Austin quite well , nice bloke .

  • @lennyh500
    @lennyh500 Před 4 lety +52

    Betya these blokes managed to pay off a mortgage & keep a wife & kids from just the one wage packet.

    • @animal79thecat
      @animal79thecat Před 4 lety

      doubt it

    • @lardy70s
      @lardy70s Před 4 lety +4

      Definitely. Hard working bastards from a bygone era. We've lost the skill. Went to India a while back and seen people in the street fixing starter motors, clocks, welding exhausts etc. If you had the money these people could build you any mortal thing. I had an old Peugeot 306 which needed a ton of welding doing. For the love of money I couldn't find anyone willing to do the job. I guarantee that if I went back in time 40+ years I would've found someone to do it.

    • @Shane-zx4ps
      @Shane-zx4ps Před 3 lety

      @@animal79thecat they did, cause the wife had to give up work, it was law

    • @andyhoward7734
      @andyhoward7734 Před 3 lety +1

      Before house prices went stupid

    • @baronmeduse
      @baronmeduse Před 3 lety

      In an economy where the government actually spent, before all the thick bastards (some in this video and comment thread perhaps) voted in Thatcher's austerity monetarism. Nonetheless plenty would have been on low pay and mostly making do with a lot of things.

  • @mashville100
    @mashville100 Před 10 lety +8

    I used to work at Aldenham up until they closed it in 1986. What a tragedy.There was some great caracters there and a great community spirit. They shipped us off to Chiswick but that didnt last long,

    • @fordy2604
      @fordy2604 Před 4 lety +1

      Peter Mash alright mate was it the bus garage in greys inn road ? I’m a Bricky and I worked on that bus garage converting it into flats I was doing my apprenticeship I think it was 87- or 88 I’m not sure 🤔

  • @thefreshprinceofdapto1668

    I bet this was a fantastic place to work. So sad things change and places close.

  • @1100HondaCB
    @1100HondaCB Před 10 lety +38

    1950s/60s was a time when Britain was far better than it is now. A time when you left school, went into a job, worked your way up if you wanted to, bought your house, raised a decent family and had a future to look forward to without the threat of unemployment, living below the bread line, working for bad management and a society over run with immigrants. My parents left school in the 60s and never had trouble finding work and went on to have very successful careers and as a result, have several properties and a comfortable lifestyle. I can only ever dream of doing that and I'm 34. I may have my own home, but I'll be paying it off until I'm 67. What kind of life is that? I have many qualifications and can't get a decent job. I have A-levels in Physics and Mathematics. I also have HGV as well as the ADR so I can drive petrol tankers, but can't get a job. I'm so glad I have decided not to have children in this day and age. The future is bleak.

    • @fevkin
      @fevkin Před 10 lety +7

      Reminds me of my old mum and dad. Bought a four-bed end of terrace in 1962 with just dad working as a semi-skilled TV engineer and raising six kids. You couldn't do that now

    • @mebeasensei
      @mebeasensei Před 7 lety +1

      Maybe, just maybe have kids anyway. I'm 53 and though I am not wanting desperately for them I can see why the people who loved me desperately did. It makes me sad.

  • @itcfan
    @itcfan Před 5 lety +5

    London Transport was a fantastic company, Bus driver training and engineering at Chiswick works and Aldenham overhaul works. Nice footage. RT buses(1939-79) not Routemasters(1956-2005) feature in this video. All swept away by the Tories and privatisation.

  • @frankbeaton4776
    @frankbeaton4776 Před 4 lety +10

    This made me very sad. I drove RT and RM buses for many years and lived not far from Aldenham. These vehicles could have gone on giving good service for a very long time. Such is the price of "progress"

  • @williamwaynflete6336
    @williamwaynflete6336 Před 3 lety +2

    Great documentary! Love the hyperactive, rumty-tumty music. Despite the "routemaster" reference in the title, we see only the earlier RT family buses.

  • @MrButtonpresser
    @MrButtonpresser Před 4 lety +19

    When things were done to a standard and not to a cost.

    • @mrrolandlawrence
      @mrrolandlawrence Před 3 lety +1

      not sure about that. they were serviced to keep availability rates high as well as to ensure they were desirable to ride on by the public. by centralising servicing, economies of scale meant that all repairs could be immediately taken care of instead of the other practice of "well mate, gotta send of for some parts... gonna take a few weeks, guess you are SOL".

  • @mikechick221
    @mikechick221 Před 10 lety +26

    transport aren't looked after like this any more

  •  Před 4 lety +1

    Incredible documentary. All work done by hand by British craftsmen with virtually no power tools at all. Probably not the most efficient processes and one can only imagine the cost of overhauling a bus to this standard..

  • @alncn100
    @alncn100 Před 7 lety +6

    As a kid i recall seeing the chassis's built at Park Royal (AEC) being driven to Aldenham , The driver perched on a seat, hunched over the steering wheel , totally open to the elements, wearing goggles, scarves, lagging etc etc

    • @philnewstead5388
      @philnewstead5388 Před 4 lety +2

      I was telling someone the other day about the guys driving the bare chassis around and they didn't believe me. I remember seeing them on the M1 both lorry and bus chassis coming from the Midlands to London for the bodywork. There used to be a lot of coach works in Park Royal. Wouldn't happen today of course, health and safety you know. Quite frankly with all the things you can't do today which were the norm back then I wonder how I got to nearly 60 years old.

  • @astront917
    @astront917 Před 4 lety +1

    Lovely to watch,I joined the coach industry on the yts in 1987,
    Working for a local coach operator and loved it,
    Got made redundant after they were taken over by a bus company,
    I then worked for vanhool until I changed career in my forties,and
    Sad to watch the demise of the coach and bus industry in the uk,
    I was always proud to work and wore the companies named with extra pride,
    Sadly those days are gone now.

  • @dieseldavetrains8988
    @dieseldavetrains8988 Před 3 lety +1

    Privatisation killed off all those big workshops and the skilled tradesmen that worked there, men took a pride in their trade and work in those days. Buses these days full of plastic and fiberglass "throw away" sections. Lovely video and very informative, enjoyed it. Thank you.

  • @sanders2378
    @sanders2378 Před 11 lety +4

    How fitting "The Last Post" at the end ... such painstaking care taken by the workers, you would not get that level of care these days, they run the buses till they fall apart and get new ones.
    And yes, the buses are the RTs, not Routemasters!

  • @Blacklab99
    @Blacklab99 Před 4 lety +8

    The perpetrators of the throw away world we live in, might want to watch this.

  • @billywhippet
    @billywhippet Před 3 lety +2

    Was an apprentice welder there in the 70s, then went to Chiswick. Happy days

  • @greenpedal370
    @greenpedal370 Před 4 lety +44

    It was depressing to watch. Common sense and good engineering practice gone forever.

    • @baldfatgit1
      @baldfatgit1 Před 4 lety +2

      Totally and completely agree with you good engineering all gone and common sense also all gone.

    • @directech
      @directech Před 4 lety +2

      Well, it looked very thorough... But they forgot to replace the tyres. WTF?

    • @busnutta
      @busnutta Před 3 lety

      @@directech . London Transport never owned the bus tires / tyres. They always contracted it to the big firms who would maintain the tires and have a fitter at each London Transport garage. That’s why they were not bothered about the silver overspray on them!

  • @jaggass
    @jaggass Před 5 lety +5

    There are no busworks in the UK that would put that amount of effort into refurbishing buses now.

  • @paulputnam8211
    @paulputnam8211 Před 3 lety +1

    A fast run on a newly overhauled RT was always an experience. Fond memories of RTs on 301, Tring - Aylesbury in the 60s.

  • @johnsonlmg
    @johnsonlmg Před 12 lety +2

    There's also an RLH on the chassis line. You can see the A208 engine with top mounted air cleaner and the chassis with leg extensions to the rear - RLH only features.

  • @cabusman1
    @cabusman1 Před 4 lety +6

    Excellent movie of LT's good old days, nostalgic for many especially for those of us who worked on London Transport's buses. However, I'm sure it's been pointed out dozens of times already these buses are NOT Routemasters but members of the previous generation of RT and RTL family. This was filmed over a number of months during 1960, a few years before the first Routemasters needed an overhaul. Superb, nevertheless, for one who once cycled from North London to Aldenham on more than a few occasions to bus -spot!

  • @BigDangerousDan
    @BigDangerousDan Před 5 lety +7

    Seems like a better time. Great video

  • @equalsql7508
    @equalsql7508 Před 4 lety +1

    Fascinating stuff. I practically lived on those double deckers when I was a kid using them pretty much every day. Wonderful to see them again.

  • @derekbayes7281
    @derekbayes7281 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It’s so healthy to see a collection of hard-core bus nerds in action. Last weekend( 23-03 24), Barking depot held it’s centenary with a rally of thirty or more RT’S to ride for free. Fortunately, there is a bus stop only twenty feet from my home. So of we went freewheeling. The RT is the bus of my youth, if I could own one I would; but parking is a problem.

  • @CHR15theB4GP1PER
    @CHR15theB4GP1PER Před 10 lety +5

    I think you'll find that these Double Deckers are not Routemasters, but RT [Regency Type] buses. These started being produced by AEC Park Royal in 1938/9(?), and where in use during the London Blitz in 1940. RTs are easy to differenciate from RMs [Routemasters] by the size of the radiator grills (RTs - Long & narrow, RMs short & squat). Also RTs had a more pronounced (almost art deco streamlined) curve, from Radiator to Roof, then the more modern "chunky" fronted RMs. I visited Aldenham Bus Works in 1983 as part of the 50th anniversary of London Transport. It was there & then that I learn't that only RTs can be seperated from their chassis, whereas RMs have their chassis integrated to the coachbody which prevents them from being seperated. I also drove a RM around the test track for £5 (blueys had such spending power back then). If I had £30 more to spare, I could've spun an RM around the skidpan.

  • @althejazz
    @althejazz Před 11 lety +5

    Something else the film doesn't tell you is that identity swapping went on at Aldenham from 1955 onwards. In most instances the incoming bus had its identity transferred to a freshly overhauled bus of the same type i.e. RT, RTL, RTW or RF. In this way full use was made of the road fund licence. It followed on from the same practice which went on at Chiswick from when it opened in 1923 but was suspended during WWII.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Před 4 lety +2

    Wow - that is amazingly thorough. London buses must have been REALLY reliable between 1956 and 1986.

  • @wyb80
    @wyb80 Před 11 lety +11

    What a Great Film!.......now it's all gone!
    Such a shame :-(

    • @DANEBLUEGNOME
      @DANEBLUEGNOME Před 4 lety

      Probably not gone really!

    • @jacck123
      @jacck123 Před 4 lety

      Nope I work bus bodywork
      I working on restoring it

  • @billtaylor48
    @billtaylor48 Před 5 lety +6

    The pride the workers took in their jobs is amazing....whichever politicians allowed Aldenham works to be closed should hang their heads in shame. Oh for a time when public service was seen as a good thing and not a drain on the rich (in this case the wealthy who would never dream of going by bus!

  • @montyzumazoom1337
    @montyzumazoom1337 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow! What an operation and brilliant designs of buses. My Dad drove a routemaster, I still have his badge.

  • @alncn100
    @alncn100 Před 7 lety +22

    NO ROUTEMASTERS , these are RTs or similar. Routemasters weren't introduced till 1961

    • @DANEBLUEGNOME
      @DANEBLUEGNOME Před 4 lety

      Routemaster buses now upgraded make brand new routemaster is much better looks good to though it is! However watch video this is spirit of old routemaster buses, now who wants open the day ride for tours service in London.

    • @johnjephcote7636
      @johnjephcote7636 Před 4 lety +2

      Exactly. That's like the spitfire syndrome of the newspapers where every single engined 'plane is... Terrific film spoilt by fairground music which tries to make a joke of the whole thing: totally demeaning... a bit like the old BBC black and white jokey music used when they shewed film of model railway exhibitions!

  • @ianmcclavin
    @ianmcclavin Před 3 měsíci

    Aldenham no longer exists now. In 1984, however, my late father and I paid a visit during an open day to the public. It was an interesting experience, and a thoroughly enjoyable day. As well as being able to the various working areas, there was a demonstration of how to "upright" an overturned bus using airbags (I dont think the Routemaster used in the demo ever ran again!!) opportunities to drive a Routemaster supervised on the test track, and a free courtesy bus to and from Stanmore tube station. I was in the industry myself for about 10 years from 2007 onwards, but it's a different world now.

  • @rickhctep1503
    @rickhctep1503 Před 8 lety +32

    These Stagecoach buses are lucky if they ever get a service never mind an overhaul, most of them are death traps.

    • @rickhctep1503
      @rickhctep1503 Před 7 lety +9

      Stagecoach look after their buses, pull the other one, in my town we have had buses were the entry doors have fallen off into the street, drive belts that have caught fire, running on FLAT tires, driving them about with broken off wheel bolts, lose seats, brakes so bad that buses could not pull up in the bay they were to stop at ,so many fumes coming off the engine coming into the bus that the passengers have actually thrown up on the bus,
      No, stagecoach need their arses kicking hard, they must be back handing the wheel tappers a lot of money in my area to get away with these scrappers being on the road.

  • @aelthric
    @aelthric Před 12 lety +3

    Excellent video of a bygone era that brought pleasant memories back for me as my mum used to drive Routemasters when I was a kid...
    Thanks for this...

  • @robleary3353
    @robleary3353 Před rokem

    Lovely, glad this film survived. Lot of childhood memories on buses such as that.

  • @graham27
    @graham27 Před 3 lety

    What a fantastic video, it brings back so many memories, I worked at Aldenham bus works from 1979 to 1985 as a vehicle builder it was the best apprenticeship you could have ever had, I didn’t realise it at the time but in later life it has given me so many brilliant skills. Worked in the Highbay the trim shop and various other area. I found some old picture a couple of months ago of the team I worked with waiting in the canteen for the next bus to be dropped in our bay to be refurbished. I wonder where the old team are now.

    • @chrissmith4365
      @chrissmith4365 Před 8 měsíci

      Hello graham27 I noticed you said you worked in the trim shop I wonder does this name sound familiar David Davies he worked at aldenham bus works in the trim shop as well probably around the same time as you I worked for a small company when I first left school and he was my a fellow member of staff he often you used to talk about aldenham bus works I know he was there up until it shut which was 1986 does this name sound familiar I think he was from boreham wood he drove a scooter and then he had a I think a escort he told me he used to have long hair ( it was the seventies) does this name sound familiar at all

  • @geoffreypinchen5075
    @geoffreypinchen5075 Před 4 lety +2

    A fine example of craftsmanship and pride in a job well done. No surprise then that secondhand LPTB buses were very well sought-after for further use both a home and abroad. The Aldenham works really was 'recycling' in the truest original sense, sadly not appreciated at all by successive UK governments.

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 Před 6 lety +5

    RT is Regent Three. (Journalists call every red bus a Routemaster)

  • @Alex462047
    @Alex462047 Před 4 lety +2

    I must say, this is what an overhaul really is, not the piecemeal remedial repairs that pass for scheduled maintenance these days. My experience of heavy transport is having the owner wait for the equipment to fail, then either replace it or repair/replace parts here and there. A full overhaul leaving no bolt unturned is unheard of these days.

    • @MrStabby19812
      @MrStabby19812 Před 4 lety +1

      Alex462047 only time they see a can of paint is when they get rebranded if their lucky

  • @pauls7520
    @pauls7520 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow what a wonderful informative historical video. As said the pride put into overhauling these buses is incredible. Many thanks for making such a good video.

  • @acftus
    @acftus Před 11 lety +2

    My brother-in-law worked at Aldenham as an uphosterer renewing all the seats.

  • @darrenburnfan
    @darrenburnfan Před 9 lety +6

    A very interesting film from a time long ago and far away now. The Aldenham works was made famous when Elstree Films went there in 1962 to film the place in CinemaScope and Technicolor as a background to the opening scenes in "Summer Holiday", the big box office hit of 1963, as Cliff Richard, playing a London Transport bus mechanic, sang the opening number 'Seven Days to a Holiday'. I couldn't see any Routemasters in that sequence, so in 1962, the works must have been just for repairing RT's.

    • @darrenburnfan
      @darrenburnfan Před 9 lety +1

      Thanks for the info, Christopher. I haven't watched Summer Holiday for some time, but I'll get the DVD out tomorrow and give the beginning a spin. I remember showing the film when I was a cinema projectionist in 1963 and I also remember being very impressed with the sequence done at Aldenham.

    • @jusb1066
      @jusb1066 Před 8 lety +1

      +darrenburnfan it repaired Rt's RM and the Daimler buses too

    • @ANDREWLEONARDSMITH
      @ANDREWLEONARDSMITH Před 7 lety +2

      Contrary to popular belief the bus featured in " Summer Holiday" was NOT as many believe to be a routemaster but was actually an RT.

    • @ianwatts8446
      @ianwatts8446 Před 3 lety

      As Cliff drives the bus up to the entrance and the film change from black & white to colour the buses stood to the nearside of Cliff's bus are RM's...they are early numbered ones being bought in and stockpiled to start the works float of RM bodies so the overhaul process on RM's can start..RM53 from West Ham garage was the first RM to be overhauled entering the works in April 1962..

  • @christopherdalton7828
    @christopherdalton7828 Před 9 lety +5

    No Routemaster bus in this film. Its the RT family buses at Aldenham Bus Overhaul Works, both the AEC and Leyland RT and RTL respectively
    still very enjoyable to watch. No other livery-in my own opinion-was better worn on red or green London Transport buses than the Chiswick Cream bands yet those at 55 Broadway London, didn't leave well enough alone!

    • @louispierre154
      @louispierre154 Před 9 lety +1

      +Christopher Dalton The reason why there are no Routemasters in the video theywere not built till a few years later the RT Buses ruled at the time

    • @williamredfern5504
      @williamredfern5504 Před 5 lety

      Red Livery,,,,,,No red looked better than on BartoN Transport Ltd buses,, look them up on here,, the company I am proud to have worked for until the end,,

  • @itcfan
    @itcfan Před 5 lety +3

    Great nostalgic film. The bus featured is NOT the Routemaster [RM], but the RT type [Regent three]. Over seven thousand were made. The privatisation of LONDON TRANSPORT buses in the 1990's was an act of vandalism and greed by the Tories.

  • @darkdagreat2911
    @darkdagreat2911 Před 3 lety +1

    Shame that sort of craftsmanship hardly exists today

  • @carvinheca9824
    @carvinheca9824 Před 3 lety

    very great to see this production line of routemaster!!! thank you for sharing, Good!!!

  • @gingermegs138
    @gingermegs138 Před 4 lety +2

    Those workers took a lot of pride in their jobs and things were built to last th the 60s and 70s.

  • @colind9638
    @colind9638 Před 4 lety

    Fantastic video nicely narrated. So important that these are kept for posterity.

  • @stephenwilliams4501
    @stephenwilliams4501 Před 8 lety +17

    The bean counters strike again! Sad it's all gone.

  • @bordebomb6631
    @bordebomb6631 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for posting. Beautiful film

  • @kelvinbremont1341
    @kelvinbremont1341 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the rt and rm buses!! Finest work in British engineering! Why can’t newer buses in the UK be made with brilliant designs like this? Sure it could be modern but still iconic looking. 🙌🇬🇧

  • @chelseabornboy
    @chelseabornboy Před 11 lety +1

    I started red rover bus spotting when i was 10 from Kingston bus station ,i filled loads of exercise books with bus tickets from all over London..It was never a craze at my school i did it all on my own sometimes dragging a reluctant school chum with me usually begining my adventure on the 85 to Putney and sometimes take the 38 from Victoria all the way to Loughton then on to visit my Aunty in Epping.

  • @roberthewson5558
    @roberthewson5558 Před 5 lety +2

    Great film,thanks for posting. I much preferred the old London buses, the new ones rattle so much!
    What did 25 people dislike about that?

  • @MrStabby19812
    @MrStabby19812 Před 4 lety +4

    Lucky if a bus get a coat of paint in its lifetime now.

  • @mediaman3749
    @mediaman3749 Před 4 lety +1

    What a great video thanks for sharing, being and old man i have been in vehicle engineering all my life and tip my hat to these great people, i have been in london taxi overhauls which happen at 12 monthly intervals the same thing with the busses total overhauls, thats why its important that we try very hard to get the young people of today to get an appreniceship in this feild (very difficult to do ) sadly high spec vehicle engineers are dying out, and this is a shame.

  • @wumptywumpty4456
    @wumptywumpty4456 Před 4 lety +2

    When public services were run for the benefit of 'the public' and not for profit. Such a shame all that talent not replaced

  • @Keepingitrespectfulmostly.

    Never seen this before. I was watching an On the Buses episode then saw this. I used to drive buses and coaches. Late 80s to early 90s. This is a very impressive video to watch and how thorough and detailed the work is. Are buses built to last better today or do they still have to undergo this level of scrutiny and checks? 12,000 buses for LT is mind boggling to have to deal with.

  • @ian260970
    @ian260970 Před 6 lety

    Wow what a great video and insight into routemaster maintenance. I would have loved to have worked there. I have never been on a routemaster but would so love to own one. Thanks for sharing the video it was very very interesting to see how much work went into maintaining these lovely buses.

    • @paulputnam8211
      @paulputnam8211 Před 3 lety

      All the buses shown are actually RT types - pre Routemaster.

  • @jamesfrench7299
    @jamesfrench7299 Před 3 lety

    This is like a second AEC Southall works. Fantastic seeing the bare chassis undergo a cleaning.

  • @GP-pw5wb
    @GP-pw5wb Před 4 lety +2

    Fantastic film of a time when pride in a job and getting it right was foremost. No wonder these buses did the incredible mileages they did. What difference to today's world of cost cutting and throw it away as its too expensive to repair.

  • @edgeman148
    @edgeman148 Před 4 lety +2

    I worked at British Leyland truck and bus from 1979 to 1986 in Chorley, Lancs. If I recall right we had a specialty machine shop to make some parts for these buses. The current London buses look rather ugly in my humble opinion.

  • @unions100
    @unions100 Před 5 lety +3

    What ever happened to team work I just don’t know. This video is amazing 👍👍👍

  • @williamredfern5504
    @williamredfern5504 Před 5 lety +4

    I ADMIRE THE PRE THATCHER LONDON TRANSPORT,, BUT I HAD A BUS ENTHUSIASTS DREAM OF A JOB,,at the BartoN Transport Ltd,, Chilwell Nottinghamshire,,
    From 62 to 98,,,, in the garage Oil changeing,, then clutch engineer,, then Breakdown and recovery local and long distance (we did local service express services and road cruise )
    also I did emergency and part time PSV driving,, the buses used to be old,, then we got a new fleet,, when it was easy it was easy,,but when it was hard it was rough,, the BartoN family were good,,and we were loyal,,
    Thatchers changes ruined a decent company,,May she roast down below,,

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 Před 4 lety +11

    It’s now a business park… well, you can’t spell business without BUS…

  • @johnmehaffey9953
    @johnmehaffey9953 Před 4 lety +46

    True craftsmen and no need for some dimwit shouting where's your hi vis

    • @aureol40012
      @aureol40012 Před 4 lety +4

      Well, there was, the injury rates were horrific.

    • @Keithbarber
      @Keithbarber Před 4 lety +3

      Today, we have a need for TRUE CRAFTSMEN USING COMMON SENSE HEALTH AND SAFETY, and the REAL "dimwit" would be the guy not wearing his hi vis
      Boots, gloves, safety specs, helmets, hi vis all necessary, and guess what? - job done
      Risk assessment, method statement, induction session, safety courses - Job done
      Some random figures
      1969 - 1,744 accidents
      16 deaths
      1,576 injuries
      541 disabilities etc etc etc
      2019 - 377 accidents
      1 death
      228 injuries
      8 disabilities
      These figures are only obtainable through the much improved health and safety culture in industry today, and the older generation may scoff and sneer at h&s, but there are far fewer injuries and deaths today in the workplace, and we dont need a return to the old ways, even if today's procedures seem pedantic and petty

    • @Keithbarber
      @Keithbarber Před 4 lety +1

      @Mike Lloyd
      The figures are not sourced from anywhere, hence the use of the random
      I appreciate hi viz are not needed everywhere, such as in offices, and occasionally, gloves can present hazards
      I've driven dustcarts, and yes, warning beacons on the vehicle, and hi viz jackets are vital for loaders to be seen by other road users etc, but when on building sites, safety harnesses and hard hats "ditto"
      I am always aware that sometimes, people can, and do, go "overboard" with h.a.s.a.w.
      In the 1960s, less impetuous was given to health and safety matters, and workers took more risks
      But I think the fear of the "compensation culture", and "no win no fee" solicitors over the last few years fed paranoia about h.a.s.a.w.
      An example was supermarket staff walking round the delivery yard of their store, not wearing hi viz, said if they had an accident, that "they would claim"
      Not surprising

    • @Keithbarber
      @Keithbarber Před 4 lety

      @Mike Lloyd the manufacturing industry in this country has been decimated ✔
      But service and other industries still flourish and health and safety applies there too

    • @Keithbarber
      @Keithbarber Před 4 lety

      Health and safety rules should be simple such as
      This machine produces sparks so
      1. ONLY TRAINED PERSONNEL TO USE THIS MACHINE
      2. OPERATOR MUST ENSURE THAT
      A.. Ensure guard is down so sparks are kept lower down and dont fly everywhere
      B. Wear appropriate eye protection- spectacles/goggles
      C. Wear face mask
      D. Ensure machine is isolated after use
      AND THAT SHOULD BE IT
      not all this crap that can be put in place

  • @henrytomlinson3634
    @henrytomlinson3634 Před 4 lety

    What a fantastic piece of film thank you for sharing it I was riveted do it.
    Henry, north of Lichfield

  • @jeffreyokeefe3694
    @jeffreyokeefe3694 Před 10 měsíci

    I took my bus test in an RT, Len Pilgrim was our instructor 1976.
    He related the time when an instructor told the trainee to go through the roundabout, but the rookie literally tried to, say no more.😮

  • @dougwalton5414
    @dougwalton5414 Před rokem

    This was when there were actual skilled craftsmen that took pride in what they did. Sadly none left now.

  • @stephenrice4554
    @stephenrice4554 Před rokem

    And with the closure went the quality of service that we all came to appreciate , once it had gone . 👍🇬🇧

  • @jezoliver6464
    @jezoliver6464 Před 4 lety

    Great footage!

  • @GreenmanXIV
    @GreenmanXIV Před 3 lety

    I saw the works when it was completely empty, I couldn't believe the size of the place. My old foreman, was the last works and building manager there.

  • @priestland1
    @priestland1 Před 4 lety

    Would love that cabinet complete with all those great transfers for the bodywork.

  • @althejazz
    @althejazz Před 11 lety +7

    London Transport didn't use Gardner engines until the rear engine era and Routemasters have no chassis as such. They have two running units which are attached to the main body structure and they cannot be run as a chassis on their own. The reason that Aldenham works closed was because of the new FFD regulations brought in by the thatcher government in a deliberate attempt to make LT look inefficient by using dodgy accounting methods.

  • @s1914
    @s1914 Před 4 lety

    Lovely video. Isn't it wonderful how things used to be....

  • @limeyosu2000
    @limeyosu2000 Před 10 lety +3

    great film cheers for posting, wonder how many jobs were lost when this great place was shut down.

  • @surreyscouse2873
    @surreyscouse2873 Před 4 lety +2

    You couldn't get more simple, environmentally friendly and cost effective than that.
    What do we do now? Scrap them and buy new.
    It's called erm... "progress"

    • @DANEBLUEGNOME
      @DANEBLUEGNOME Před 4 lety

      It's not quite taken scrap... Probably is company redevelopment for routemaster buses in parts. Now they're all routemaster buses as upgraded with brand new routemaster is much looks good to thought.

  • @paularowe7651
    @paularowe7651 Před 2 lety

    I have driven a Route master , lovely to drive!

  • @fevkin
    @fevkin Před 10 lety

    Went to the Routemaster's 60th Anniversary in Finsbury Park yesterday. Can't say I was overwhelmed as I'm not really an anorak on this one (though on plenty of other things). However, my two darling nieces made the most of it and they clambered on the few buses that permitted it and we took some good pics. Them was the days when you could run for a departing bus with some chance of climbing aboard. Couldn't help but notice how deep the stairs had become and the step to get on, or am I just 40 years older?

  • @43lochness
    @43lochness Před 12 lety +4

    incredible video,these men were geniuses !

  • @eddiehiggs6966
    @eddiehiggs6966 Před 2 lety

    I worked here in paint shop 80 to 81 after working at Park Royal vehicles then worked at stonebridge Park garage and Westbourne Park... Great years