Thank you for this talk, Tommy. Even if we know a lot about the subject, your way of summarising, updating and explaining it is always instructive. Make some more, the format is fascinating.
I have Fairbairn and your seminar last April at Martley to thank for getting me back into martial arts after a 35 year gap. Thanks Tommy, always enjoy your videos.
Insightful, informative, educational, instructive, and inspirational. In addition to the amazing historical journey that expanded my knowledge of this amazing man and the fighting arts that shaped him and the ones which he developed, my major takeaways are your closing slides on the key principles of Fairbairn-based combatives and on how to keep the flame of Fairbairn alive. Rest assured, though my own knowledge is limited compared with yours, I will certainly do my part in this corner of the world. Many thanks, Mr. Tommy Joe Moore!🥋👊🙏🙂🇵🇭🇬🇧
Thank you for keeping the flame alive. I learned new things from this video despite reading some of Fairbairn works starting in the late 1970's (I have over half a dozen of his works) and reading ABOUT Fairbairn (I have your book and several others). I used Fairbairn to stop from being beaten to a pulp by a very skilled boxer--I threw black pepper in his face and the fight was over because he couldn't see and couldn't breathe. He was at my mercy--I didn't stomp him into the floor. That fight was a solid win because I didn't have more fights with his friends, didn't have to spend time in the hospital or explain my "aggression" to the authorities. Later, on an armed anti-terrorist security contract, I was training a handful of security officers in pistol marksmanship so that they could pass our 7 meter to 35 meter 50-shot pistol course. After the contract training manager and I got them up to speed (I was the primary marksmanship trainer and in line with client policy was the medic and armorer on the scene) the training manager gave me the opportunity to teach them Fairbairn-style point shooting. I had corresponded with Rex Applegate on those shooting techniques. The training manager was an IPSC pistol match shooter. The dramatic close-quarter shooing performance increase (at 7 meters) motivated the training manager to add that to our training schedule, but he was overruled by the operations manager and project manager. I missed the knife advice in Shooting to Live, but the ammunition rotation system used is quite useful. Having "don't shoot" targets in the Kill House is very necessary for police because few police gunfights take place without "innocent bystanders" present. Contemporary with the 1942 Shooting to Live hip shooting was the American FBI combat shooting (double action from waist level) but Fairbairn's hip shooting was to keep a close-in opponent from grabbing the pistol and the FBI was all about shooting speed. Fairbairn's method got shots on target with less training (time and practice ammo) and was faster in use, more accurate on targets above or below the shooter, and target focus shooting to front sight focus shooting transition time is shorter with eye-level instinctive point shooting than when the pistol is held at waist level.
Thank you for this documentary (I can't think of a, better term for this excellent narrative) on the undisputed father of combatives, Col. William Ewart Fairbairn. Superb stuff!
Thank you for making this video! Just a few weeks ago I was looking up videos on what Shanghai was like during Fairbairn's time. But this is the video that I've been looking for. Thanks for the excellent work on this! 👍
0:10 - Live start 0:45 - The man, the mad man , the legend 1:40 - Military career 3:45 - Martials arts of the era 5:10 - Shangai vice city 7:00 - The Shangai municipal police 8:05 - The SMP's arsenal 8:30 - The martial awakening 9:00 - Fairbairn martial curriculum 13:55 - *Shooting to live* 16:25 - Some excerpts 17:10 - The shangai gangs profiles 18:00 - *Scientific Self-Defense Defendu* 19:00 - Some excerpts 19:30 - The art of war 22:00 - Special training centers 23:00 - STC's cursus 25:45 - STC's weapons 26:25 - Fairbairn classics 28:05 - *Shanghai school of streetfighting* 28:55 - *All in fighting* 29:20 - Weapons of defendu 30:20 - The other teachers 31:50 - Defendu's principles 33:40 - Keep the flame alive 36:50 - Conclusion
The Bagua posture is actually Xingyi. It is a standing practice called san ti. The "tiger claw" strike is also a popular Xingyi move. This may sound contoversial, but I see a lot of Tai Chi in Fairbairn's methods. I am in a fortunate position in that I teach Gutter Fighting. I also have several decades of training Bagua, Xingyi and real combat Tai Chi. Understanding all these styles helps to see possible links between them.
Boxing is still a big deal in the forces. Had a few lads on my last ship who were a little too handy with their hands and caused a little bother with the locals😂
I've always been very skeptical about Fairbarn learning any Bagua. Much more likely, they would have shown him some line drills probably derived from Hsing I (which is pretty damn effective if you can really learn it), or even from long fist. I should probably add, that isn't meant at all to take away from what you're doing here. The content is excellent as always.
Yep the "Chinese Boxing" element of what Fairbairn did has always been the least recorded. We know who he did stuff with, but not particularly what. I'd be surprised if he wasn't exposed to several Chinese systems given the amount of Chinese constables he had 👍🥊
BaGua and Hsing I are rarely taught separately, the two complement each other to study different ways of connectivity and power. The image shown of Bagua at 12 mins in, is actually a Hsing I stance called San Ti which is a type of standing practice. Also related to Hsing I is Xin I (which people think are different styles but Xin I should come after Hsing I) so he may have done this too. Nei Gong is also usually practiced with BaGua so it would have meant a lot of training - otherwise doing it without Nei Gong just means you're doing 'funny movements'.
The content that this man posts for free,is exceptional 💪🙏
Glad you enjoy it!
There's always a price to pay.....
Great presentation, great content - as always, Our Tommy.
Thank you for this talk, Tommy. Even if we know a lot about the subject, your way of summarising, updating and explaining it is always instructive.
Make some more, the format is fascinating.
I have Fairbairn and your seminar last April at Martley to thank for getting me back into martial arts after a 35 year gap. Thanks Tommy, always enjoy your videos.
Fantastic! 🥊
Insightful, informative, educational, instructive, and inspirational. In addition to the amazing historical journey that expanded my knowledge of this amazing man and the fighting arts that shaped him and the ones which he developed, my major takeaways are your closing slides on the key principles of Fairbairn-based combatives and on how to keep the flame of Fairbairn alive. Rest assured, though my own knowledge is limited compared with yours, I will certainly do my part in this corner of the world. Many thanks, Mr. Tommy Joe Moore!🥋👊🙏🙂🇵🇭🇬🇧
Thank you for keeping the flame alive. I learned new things from this video despite reading some of Fairbairn works starting in the late 1970's (I have over half a dozen of his works) and reading ABOUT Fairbairn (I have your book and several others).
I used Fairbairn to stop from being beaten to a pulp by a very skilled boxer--I threw black pepper in his face and the fight was over because he couldn't see and couldn't breathe. He was at my mercy--I didn't stomp him into the floor. That fight was a solid win because I didn't have more fights with his friends, didn't have to spend time in the hospital or explain my "aggression" to the authorities.
Later, on an armed anti-terrorist security contract, I was training a handful of security officers in pistol marksmanship so that they could pass our 7 meter to 35 meter 50-shot pistol course. After the contract training manager and I got them up to speed (I was the primary marksmanship trainer and in line with client policy was the medic and armorer on the scene) the training manager gave me the opportunity to teach them Fairbairn-style point shooting. I had corresponded with Rex Applegate on those shooting techniques. The training manager was an IPSC pistol match shooter. The dramatic close-quarter shooing performance increase (at 7 meters) motivated the training manager to add that to our training schedule, but he was overruled by the operations manager and project manager.
I missed the knife advice in Shooting to Live, but the ammunition rotation system used is quite useful. Having "don't shoot" targets in the Kill House is very necessary for police because few police gunfights take place without "innocent bystanders" present. Contemporary with the 1942 Shooting to Live hip shooting was the American FBI combat shooting (double action from waist level) but Fairbairn's hip shooting was to keep a close-in opponent from grabbing the pistol and the FBI was all about shooting speed. Fairbairn's method got shots on target with less training (time and practice ammo) and was faster in use, more accurate on targets above or below the shooter, and target focus shooting to front sight focus shooting transition time is shorter with eye-level instinctive point shooting than when the pistol is held at waist level.
Thank you for this documentary (I can't think of a, better term for this excellent narrative) on the undisputed father of combatives, Col. William Ewart Fairbairn. Superb stuff!
Thank you for making this video! Just a few weeks ago I was looking up videos on what Shanghai was like during Fairbairn's time. But this is the video that I've been looking for. Thanks for the excellent work on this! 👍
0:10 - Live start
0:45 - The man, the mad man , the legend
1:40 - Military career
3:45 - Martials arts of the era
5:10 - Shangai vice city
7:00 - The Shangai municipal police
8:05 - The SMP's arsenal
8:30 - The martial awakening
9:00 - Fairbairn martial curriculum
13:55 - *Shooting to live*
16:25 - Some excerpts
17:10 - The shangai gangs profiles
18:00 - *Scientific Self-Defense Defendu*
19:00 - Some excerpts
19:30 - The art of war
22:00 - Special training centers
23:00 - STC's cursus
25:45 - STC's weapons
26:25 - Fairbairn classics
28:05 - *Shanghai school of streetfighting*
28:55 - *All in fighting*
29:20 - Weapons of defendu
30:20 - The other teachers
31:50 - Defendu's principles
33:40 - Keep the flame alive
36:50 - Conclusion
Another excellent video and presentation.Thank you.
Great video, thanks for posting it.
Fantastic overview!
What a man.
1/21/24 Viewing and learning; loved it!
Been waiting a long time for this.
Excellent!
Thank you. 👍
The Bagua posture is actually Xingyi. It is a standing practice called san ti. The "tiger claw" strike is also a popular Xingyi move.
This may sound contoversial, but I see a lot of Tai Chi in Fairbairn's methods. I am in a fortunate position in that I teach Gutter Fighting. I also have several decades of training Bagua, Xingyi and real combat Tai Chi. Understanding all these styles helps to see possible links between them.
Boxing is still a big deal in the forces. Had a few lads on my last ship who were a little too handy with their hands and caused a little bother with the locals😂
He was John Wick before John Wick😅😅😅
I've always been very skeptical about Fairbarn learning any Bagua. Much more likely, they would have shown him some line drills probably derived from Hsing I (which is pretty damn effective if you can really learn it), or even from long fist. I should probably add, that isn't meant at all to take away from what you're doing here. The content is excellent as always.
Yep the "Chinese Boxing" element of what Fairbairn did has always been the least recorded. We know who he did stuff with, but not particularly what. I'd be surprised if he wasn't exposed to several Chinese systems given the amount of Chinese constables he had 👍🥊
BaGua and Hsing I are rarely taught separately, the two complement each other to study different ways of connectivity and power. The image shown of Bagua at 12 mins in, is actually a Hsing I stance called San Ti which is a type of standing practice. Also related to Hsing I is Xin I (which people think are different styles but Xin I should come after Hsing I) so he may have done this too. Nei Gong is also usually practiced with BaGua so it would have meant a lot of training - otherwise doing it without Nei Gong just means you're doing 'funny movements'.
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