Babylon 5: Londo and G'Kar - The shelter within

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  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2011
  • Londo and G'Kar talking about their past in a shelter during an attack to the station, in episode 5x04: "A View from the Gallery"
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Komentáře • 289

  • @lamehick7511
    @lamehick7511 Před 3 lety +319

    "You did not grow up, you grew old."
    This one sentence carries enough truth to warrant its own TV series.

    • @TheZorch
      @TheZorch Před 3 lety +19

      It is criminal that not enough people appreciate how philosophically deep this show is. B5 was a masterpiece of writing.

    • @sportscarman5
      @sportscarman5 Před 2 lety +5

      Did you hear? Stravinsky himself is rebooting it!

    • @lamehick7511
      @lamehick7511 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sportscarman5 nice

    • @Crazael
      @Crazael Před 2 lety +9

      "My shoes are too tight. But it does not matter because I have already forgotten how to dance."

    • @sportscarman5
      @sportscarman5 Před 2 lety

      @@Crazael that scene actually makes me cry.

  • @brav0wing
    @brav0wing Před 10 lety +379

    One of the best duo characters ever written on TV.

  • @Nebagram
    @Nebagram Před 12 lety +119

    I could watch G'Kar and Londo talking and arguing 24 hours a day for a whole century and not get bored. Definitely the best alien characters in sci-fi history.

    • @Moose00019
      @Moose00019 Před 2 lety +7

      31hrs a day*

    • @saberiandream316
      @saberiandream316 Před rokem

      That would exclude Thor and Teal'c, lol.

    • @GoranXII
      @GoranXII Před měsícem

      @@saberiandream316 And Garak, plain, simple Garak.

  • @rizon72
    @rizon72 Před 8 lety +381

    The Londo/G'Kar relationship, loved how it went from absolute hatred to almost best friend. In a way, their deaths at each others hands is more out of love and respect than hatred and fear.

    • @Silanael
      @Silanael  Před 8 lety +40

      +rizon72 Well said. Developing character relations such as this one were to me one of the best things B5 had to offer, among many others. Enemies becoming friends is a strong concept that the series used in a wonderful manner.

    • @ryszardnanke3860
      @ryszardnanke3860 Před 7 lety +26

      Pitty that we did not see friendship between Neroon and Sinclair, that would be priceless too. And the moment Sinclair going in to the past to become Valen, I would loved to see Neroon's face when he realize's that all this time he was dealing with Mimbari hero icon himself. He would probably convert to religious caste after that much sooner, than he did.

    • @Silanael
      @Silanael  Před 7 lety +12

      Ryszard Nanke Agreed. The two already started to form some amount of respect towards one another, would have been a promising storyline. I have a feeling JMS might have wanted to develop the relation between these two characters further, had circumstances been different.

    • @JF-tt6wy
      @JF-tt6wy Před 7 lety +20

      Londo and G'Kar are a fine example of character development. Seeing them change over time was one of the best parts of this show. It's a shame it's so underrated compared to other shows.

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster Před 6 lety +8

      Same with Deleen - when she said her people went mad and nearly killed all of the human race - what she really means is that she was the whip hand encouraging that she too had a lot of personal growth.
      Not when Sheridan says he went from being the enemy of the Minbari to loving one - the look on her face is quite complex - as if she's remembering the time she would have looked on Sheridan as an enemy too.

  • @trinitymplayers
    @trinitymplayers Před 11 lety +242

    I wish this clip had included the actual ending of this scene, with the camera panning away from the departing Londo and G'Kar to focus on two maintenance men who have been listening the whole time, and one commenting, "...How long have those two been a married couple?".

    • @robertnett9793
      @robertnett9793 Před 4 lety +34

      Ah - I remember the episode. This was a really great one - just from the perspective of those two janitors.

    • @michaelweigel8253
      @michaelweigel8253 Před 4 lety +29

      @@robertnett9793 Their names were Mack and Bo. It would have been great to see them from time to time if the show had gone longer.

    • @kblskables2877
      @kblskables2877 Před 3 lety +8

      No one has ever been dumb enough to call me a racist, but if they ever do I will tell them the story of lango and g'kar.

    • @tomjustis7237
      @tomjustis7237 Před 3 lety +13

      @@kblskables2877 Sadly, if they are dumb enough to call you a racist, then they will probably be to dumb to understand the story of Londo and G'Kar.

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Před 3 lety +2

      @@tomjustis7237 He lives in an alternate universe.

  • @lordt.8599
    @lordt.8599 Před 10 lety +175

    My shoes are too tight.

    • @Silanael
      @Silanael  Před 10 lety +45

      And I've forgotten how to dance..

    • @johnbrowne2428
      @johnbrowne2428 Před 6 lety +2

      Lord T. And I have forgotten how to dance

    • @ziggymcdougal
      @ziggymcdougal Před 5 lety +11

      my shoes are too tight. But it's fine, this Narn is teaching me how to dance

    • @machinshin2253
      @machinshin2253 Před 4 lety +7

      But it does not matter,
      For I have forgotten how to dance.
      Those, to me, are the more revelatory parts of that scene :)

    • @jonreese7066
      @jonreese7066 Před 4 lety +1

      Ziggy McDougal my sentiments exactly

  • @DeugarTheOne
    @DeugarTheOne Před 3 lety +31

    You can't deny that Londo and G'Kar have chemistry. They're like two sides of the same coin. G'Kar starts off with power and loses it, but in the process, he finds his true self. Londo starts off with very little power, but loses himself when he eventually "gets" everything he ever wanted. They highlight the age old truth that the external world never brings happiness or growth. It comes from within and requires personal struggle.

    • @Cool70sfreak
      @Cool70sfreak Před 10 měsíci +1

      "Isn't it strange, G'kar? When we first met I had no power and all the choices I could ever want, and now I have all the power I could ever want and no choices at all...no choice at all."

  • @hairyrichardson8921
    @hairyrichardson8921 Před 2 lety +8

    "You carry your shelter with you... every day _ you did not grow up, you grew old" ... you can tell that got to Londo!

  • @brav0wing
    @brav0wing Před 9 lety +112

    And, oh, poor Londo, the Universe hadn't even started with you yet.
    What a tragic character, what a story!

    • @ILuvSmexyShowgirls
      @ILuvSmexyShowgirls Před 9 lety +15

      +brav0wing Ayup, and the most tragic thing of all might be that he had a little voice of reason and enlightenment speaking to him asking, begging, pleading for him to do the right thing all along. Instead he didn't listen to it, belittled it, used it for his own ends, and was envious of it.

    • @mkumku7997
      @mkumku7997 Před 8 lety +5

      +Debonair Damsel
      But in the end he took the way of redemption as Lady Morella prophesied.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 5 lety +3

      Did he though? Centauri Prime was still in ruins with its people suffering. At a glance, the man who is already dead seems like it easily could be Sheridan, but what if it was actually Morden? What if Londo hadn't killed Morden?

    • @biscuitninja
      @biscuitninja Před 5 lety +2

      The one who has everything, and has nothing. Or the one who has nothing and everything..

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 Před 3 lety +5

      @@InfernosReaper In the novel at least he brought enough time playing the Drake games that vir built a army in secret that were able to disable the nukes and free his people.

  • @danielhaire6677
    @danielhaire6677 Před 10 lety +73

    An amazingly accurate reflection on the character of Mallari: "You didn't grow up, you grew old"

  • @ZeraSeraphim
    @ZeraSeraphim Před 4 lety +14

    0:42 "Mr. Morden and the Shadow War, mass drivers against my people, overseeing my torture, kicking me off the council WHILE bombing my home world, do I need to go on?" Such communication with a glance.

    • @WhiteScarsEmo
      @WhiteScarsEmo Před 2 lety

      "Too soon?" LOL

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Před 2 měsíci

      No. He wasn't " overseeing " G'Kar's torture. He was forced to watch. There is a world of difference.

  • @zephyr8072
    @zephyr8072 Před rokem +6

    Season 5 may not have been great but seeing G’Kar be mellow and at peace with himself after so much hardship and strife was always great.

  • @eliricalis
    @eliricalis Před 3 lety +28

    All these years past and this series, this show is still magic. No sci-fi other show has come close since.

    • @standupp2885
      @standupp2885 Před 3 lety +2

      I agree. It's like seeing an old friend when I watch these clips.

    • @noelle3551
      @noelle3551 Před 2 lety +1

      @@standupp2885 I totally get what you said.

    • @Sean12248
      @Sean12248 Před rokem +1

      I watched DS9 for the first time two years ago. It never came close to Babylon 5. BSG remake was just.........too dark.

    • @saberiandream316
      @saberiandream316 Před rokem +1

      Cough, Stargate.

  • @davido.1233
    @davido.1233 Před 8 lety +112

    From being political rivals, to hating each other, to trying to kill each other one several occasions, Londo and G'Kar have grown to like and respect each other throughout the entire series, and it's moments like these that make all the rivalry worth while! Because at the end of the series, when the two of them are dead and don't appear in the finale, you can look back and remember all the back and forth the two make and know that they died as friends........trying to kill each other one last time...

    • @55Quirll
      @55Quirll Před rokem +2

      G'kar killing Londo to free him from his keeper/ that is real love.

    • @saberiandream316
      @saberiandream316 Před rokem

      That's morbid.

    • @jamesbuchanan4414
      @jamesbuchanan4414 Před rokem +2

      @@saberiandream316 Not necessarily. Londo, ironically, was a slave. In the absence of an escape, the release of death was the only freedom he'd ever get. It was an act of mercy.

  • @stevieboymkii
    @stevieboymkii Před 4 lety +16

    The character arc between these two is just a joy to watch, from start to finish.

  • @WinterSoldier79
    @WinterSoldier79 Před 5 lety +39

    I would have watched a whole season with just Londo and G'Kar talking.

    • @hairyrichardson8921
      @hairyrichardson8921 Před 2 lety +1

      I remember in the 70's as a child, a TV show called the Odd Couple ... living in he same apartment - I'm imagining that LOL czcams.com/video/45pfnGEkDe0/video.html&ab_channel=ChiefScheider

    • @niklasdahlgren7641
      @niklasdahlgren7641 Před 2 lety

      @@hairyrichardson8921 Literally made me think of this: czcams.com/video/OHx6vEv6GKs/video.html

  • @olternaut
    @olternaut Před 5 lety +18

    These Babylon5 clips are comforting.

  • @niconietzsche7464
    @niconietzsche7464 Před rokem +3

    That Dynamic between Londo and G`Kar was one of the best things in the entire Series.

  • @Promilus1984
    @Promilus1984 Před rokem +2

    That duo is just... well, they have been through a lot. Together. Against each other. Such bonds are broken only through death. And so did it end.

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Před 2 měsíci

      No. Death itself is powerless against a bond like theirs.

  • @fnusecurity5112
    @fnusecurity5112 Před rokem +2

    The two best Characters on T.V. They both had their moments when they become one of those Characters you can't wait to see what is happening.

  • @charlesw5919
    @charlesw5919 Před 10 lety +23

    The development of these two characters individually and with each other is pure gold.

  • @Llyander
    @Llyander Před 4 lety +16

    I love their relationship in the later seasons, this sort of grudging, wary respect for each other that evolved into something I doubt either of them would have been willing to call "friendship", at least not while the other was in earshot.

    • @jerwheel
      @jerwheel Před 3 lety +2

      Well, once... "but I...can forgive...you"

  • @FerretJohn
    @FerretJohn Před 6 lety +40

    Londo grew up in the Royal Palace, his surroundings were much prettier than G'Kars, but the gilded cage is still a cage. In a way it was even worse than G'Kar's life, all that was expected of him was that he survive, Londo's world required far more expectations

  • @compmanio36
    @compmanio36 Před 2 lety +3

    This series embodies everything modern cinema and television lacks. The ability for two people, two great actors, to simply sit in a cheap, cardboard room and convincingly delivery poignant lines, to where you not only believe they are real characters, and not actors, but that the cheap carboard set is a room in a space station 5 miles long in outer space in the future....that is true talent, and true storytelling my friends, of a kind I fear we won't ever see again.
    I have great fear the new B5 reboot will be among the likes of "The Lost Tales" or "Tales of the Rangers", both flops in the attempt to catch lightning twice. I hope I am wrong, and it's a great success. But I'm fearful it will only further bury Babylon 5 except among those of us who know the greatness of the original production.

  • @terrancemoore8756
    @terrancemoore8756 Před 2 lety +6

    The last 5 years has been very hard, but watching these two adversaries slowly become friends gives me hope that one day we will all learn to coexist in peace.

    • @Kref3
      @Kref3 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Don‘t forget, that in the end they sadly but inevitably strangled each other to death.

  • @RetroRobotRadio
    @RetroRobotRadio Před 3 lety +10

    This is where Lando and G'Kar went from being a married couple on the rocks, to a married couple that learned to accept each other.

    • @Crazael
      @Crazael Před 2 lety +2

      That little laugh from Londo at the end is what seals it, really.
      Though that does make me wonder, what does Timov think of this?

  • @elricengquist9989
    @elricengquist9989 Před 2 lety +2

    What is so amazing about this scene is the little things. The fact that G'kar said none of this will hate in his tone, but merely as how it was, that he had learned to not project what Londo's people did to his onto Londo. Then you see in Londo's eyes as G'kar spoke of what his people did to the Narns a sense of shame for what had been done, and sorrow for what G'kar had to endure. Even as G'kar spoke of how Londo never grew up merely grew old it was less of a jab, or snide comment, but more him being sorry for Londo for never being able to experience being a child an growing up like G'kar had.

  • @centurionfragger9859
    @centurionfragger9859 Před 5 lety +24

    Londo and G'Kar, the best frenimies in the entire galaxy right up until the end when both strangle each other to death because of Londo being possessed by a Keeper

    • @Wenchework
      @Wenchework Před 5 lety +9

      Think Londo knew it and planned it he always planned things ren steps ahead and I dont think G’Kar rather liked haveing to do that but he knew Londo would rather have him do it then anyone else

    • @Darqshadow
      @Darqshadow Před 10 měsíci

      ​@Wenchework he kept the keeper asleep through alcohol consumption. It wasn't till after the keeper realized that it was gonna die when it forced Londo to strangle G'kar. In the end they died as they both sought to live, free from a cycle of war and hate so their peoples could have peace.

  • @brentalanadamlandgrave7635
    @brentalanadamlandgrave7635 Před 4 lety +12

    Babylon 5 was an amazing show. I really appreciated how the writers molded their two characters from race enemies into a deep, complex friendship. Classy show, all the way. Thank you, B5, for informing My imagination.

  • @Rapscallion2009
    @Rapscallion2009 Před 3 lety +4

    This was an amazing show.

  • @Juidodin
    @Juidodin Před 4 lety +4

    one of my favorite episodes.. "she remembered my name"

    • @JnEricsonx
      @JnEricsonx Před 2 lety

      And the fact that that incredible actress was killed by pretty much a fucking mosquito....

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 Před 5 lety +11

    It is a damn shame that Andreas Katsulas is dead because he and Peter Jurasic made a great double-team as G'Kar and Londo Molar.

  • @shyone968
    @shyone968 Před 5 lety +7

    I think the best line that sums up the Londo/G'kar relationship is when Londo says "and I didn't even know we were married!" he said it during that episode with the B-5 crew fixing and cleaning things. I think.

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts Před 4 lety +1

      he said that to doctor franklin. it was the episode where Londo's arrive on the station

    • @suchiuomizu
      @suchiuomizu Před 2 lety

      THIS is the episode with the crew, and they were the ones who said something like that here.

  • @lorzon
    @lorzon Před 7 lety +11

    They're mutual hatred and eventual friendship was the best part of the show.

  • @LordGodsServant
    @LordGodsServant Před 13 lety +7

    I loved this scene, it showed how far they had come since the beginning. They are able to compare each other's lives without any racial, or species bias. This series is full of such wisdom.

  • @SFox-if9id
    @SFox-if9id Před 3 lety +2

    I don't think, in the entire course of their relationship that Londo and G'kar were friends, I don't think they ever 'liked' each other, but the true brilliance of the writing of the show, and these two astouding actors, is that they were able to portray these two coming to understand, and more importantly, to respect each other for who and what they were. Friendship is easy to convey, but what they did with Londo and G'Kar through the course of the series is truly amazing..

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Před 6 lety +3

    Remarkable relationship these two had.
    Perhaps my favorite of the entire series.

  • @Sevv9220
    @Sevv9220 Před 11 lety +2

    The relationship between these two is extremely complex and I can appreciate their bond as a living being, as someone who appreciates a good story, and someone who appreciates the concept of people understanding each other. This was what made Babylon 5 so good.

  • @gamer263
    @gamer263 Před 9 lety +8

    This happens to be one of my favorite episodes of the series and one of the most memorable since it offers a new perspective and this scene right here. Londo and G'Kar are the best.

    • @teslahertz4916
      @teslahertz4916 Před 2 lety

      besides the scene in the elevator. that was hilarious

  • @saleendriver
    @saleendriver Před rokem +1

    You can see the love and admiration they have for eachother in this clip, better than most I think. GOD I MISS THIS SHOW!!!!

  • @Mofo6773222
    @Mofo6773222 Před rokem +1

    From anyone else, or to anyone else, "you did not grow up, you grew old" would be considered an insult. But between these two it is a declaration of personal recognition/understanding of one to another.

  • @gammaechofoundationproductions

    G'Kar and Londo are one of the best characters/actors in Babylon 5! This is perhaps one of the best scenes of them in the series! I love how their relationship evolved from enemies to best friends! RIP Andreas Katsulas! :(

  • @odysseusrex5908
    @odysseusrex5908 Před 5 lety +4

    One of the best episodes of this whole, brilliant series.

  • @terrypetersen2970
    @terrypetersen2970 Před 3 lety +2

    They saved each other's spirit and soul. By walking down the dark paths they each had made for themselves it was the other that guided the other back.

    • @ethenallen1388
      @ethenallen1388 Před 3 lety

      It's a pity their peoples were not able to follow their example.

    • @Darqshadow
      @Darqshadow Před 10 měsíci

      ​@ethenallen1388 As long as the Narn follow the book of G'kar and the Centauri follow the example of Emperor Vir then maybe in time they could have.

  • @SantomPh
    @SantomPh Před 3 lety +4

    He talks about not having a childhood, his most memorable scene is telling his children the story of the Earth Minbar War

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin Před 3 lety +3

      They're not his children. That's a very important detail - Londo never had children and never would.

  • @GemmaGreen1993
    @GemmaGreen1993 Před 9 lety +44

    Seems more like the Universe keeps putting these two together in rooms, in cells, in beds beside one another. You'd think the Universe was having it's own little laugh at them :D

    • @ILuvSmexyShowgirls
      @ILuvSmexyShowgirls Před 9 lety +6

      +Aki Greus LOL. The guy Arthur Dent kept killing by accident. God that was so funny.

    • @podemosurss8316
      @podemosurss8316 Před 6 lety +4

      The universe ships Londo x G'kar

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin Před 4 lety

      @Natasel I think they fought a war about that...

    • @kimmccarthy7747
      @kimmccarthy7747 Před 4 lety +1

      @Natasel Londo. G'Kar was always a more highly evolved being.

  • @thebluestig2654
    @thebluestig2654 Před rokem +3

    Never give up the fun things in life, all the things that make you happy, no matter how childish they seem to others. The day you give up all those fun things to "become and adult" is the day you die inside and become just another cog in the machine of life.

    • @Silanael
      @Silanael  Před rokem

      I died a long time ago, it seems..

  • @Asher_Tye
    @Asher_Tye Před 6 lety +2

    It doesn't matter who they pick, these characters will never again be captured so elegantly.

    • @TwiceStruck
      @TwiceStruck Před 6 lety

      Quark and Odo never came close,.....

  • @Karmoon7
    @Karmoon7 Před 11 lety +2

    It's been years since I saw the series, but I have strong memories of how good these two characters, and indeed actors, are.
    They really have a lot of depth to them.
    Great stuff.

  • @FinalFirebrand
    @FinalFirebrand Před 6 lety +1

    The heart and soul of this show.

  • @HikaruKatayamma
    @HikaruKatayamma Před 3 lety

    A View From The Gallery is one of my favorite episodes.

  • @fgdj2000
    @fgdj2000 Před 4 měsíci +1

    My grandma, who didn't speak a whole lot of English, once walked in on me watching this scene and actually had a profound little reaction. She said (not fully understanding what they were saying or what was going on) that it was pleasant listening to them.
    It's a very fond memory I have of her now. To me this show transcends just being another show.

    • @Silanael
      @Silanael  Před 3 měsíci

      It does. It's something truly special, unlike anything else out there.

    • @fgdj2000
      @fgdj2000 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Silanael I am also aware how hokey and 1990s it can sometimes be. But to me when it comes to the storyarc, the revelations and the individual characters and their arcs, this show is unmatched in quality. There are shows which look better, there are shows that also have great actors, there are shows that have individual episodes that are better than any individual episode of B5 on its own, IMO, but as a whole, this show is my favorite and imo best written sci fi show out there.

    • @Silanael
      @Silanael  Před 3 měsíci

      I agree. Everything has its flaws, but B5 as a whole is a coherent, high-quality whole that is comparable to a good book, a story thought from beginning to the end that follows the same vision throughout the seasons. The amount of depth and emotionality remains striking even to this day.@@fgdj2000

  • @AuDHDeepDive
    @AuDHDeepDive Před 7 lety +43

    Mo: How long do yo think they've been married?

    • @smcneal057
      @smcneal057 Před 7 lety +3

      That was the best line in the scene.

    • @Avery_Hikari
      @Avery_Hikari Před 6 lety +7

      Yes! I had forgotten about that lol. Isn't it amasing? After all of these years, to be able to remember not just some trivial character but their lines as well.... That proves just how great Babylon 5 truly was.

    • @ElForrest-Okey
      @ElForrest-Okey Před 5 lety +1

      I just watched this episode tonight and I loved that line so much.

  • @Kenro200x
    @Kenro200x Před rokem

    The chemistry these two had was incredible.

  • @RandomTrinidadian
    @RandomTrinidadian Před 3 lety +1

    The best episode of the final season

  • @jhager03
    @jhager03 Před 5 měsíci +1

    the ways in which i can relate to both characters in this scene......

  • @spqrtejano8026
    @spqrtejano8026 Před 2 lety

    What an amazing scene

  • @johnhazlett3711
    @johnhazlett3711 Před rokem +1

    The fact of the matter is, enemies are usually enemies, because they really don't know their rival, and harbor grudges passed down to them from their parents and ancestors.

  • @ShawnMichaelAdams
    @ShawnMichaelAdams Před 10 lety +7

    My favorite episode. Where the 2 mechanics are the focus of the show

  • @jlvfr
    @jlvfr Před 6 lety +2

    Two of the best TV characters ever portrayed.

  • @Crazael
    @Crazael Před 12 lety +1

    Londo and G'Kar are probably the best two characters in the series. I could easily see the two of them spending the rest of their lives as the closest of friends after all they've gone through together, but still keeping that antagonistic vibe the whole time.

  • @rphuntarchive1
    @rphuntarchive1 Před 3 lety +3

    I don't think I appreciated this show enough when it was on the air.

    • @mayra3277
      @mayra3277 Před 3 lety +1

      Never too late to give it a go (again)!

  • @JnEricsonx
    @JnEricsonx Před 5 lety +4

    :43-the ultimate "Really?" look. RIP Andreas.

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 Před 4 lety

      And done through heavy facial prosthetics without eyebrows.

  • @khatack
    @khatack Před 6 lety +1

    Gotta love G'Kar and Londo. Best characters in the series, hands down.

  • @AnvilMAn603
    @AnvilMAn603 Před 11 lety +3

    i can only imagine at the amount of slash fics that would exist if this was a more modern series.

    • @N_0968
      @N_0968 Před 3 lety +1

      I bet it still exists. Old series get that too.

    • @jerwheel
      @jerwheel Před 3 lety +1

      JMS wrote one as a prank on Andreas.

  • @linkeffect82
    @linkeffect82 Před 11 lety +1

    I love these two and their interactions. I always felt badly about how horrible skewed their friendship got over time, they became friends, but politics and war and the callings of their people fractured those bonds here and there, it was a tumultuous friendship in many ways.

  • @ericpelote998
    @ericpelote998 Před 3 lety +1

    You can see the hurt on lando face as gkar tells him about growing up on his world doin the Centauri occupation

  • @stephenthumb2912
    @stephenthumb2912 Před 2 lety

    an imperfect yet perfect pair.

  • @Silanael
    @Silanael  Před 11 lety

    Absolutely!

  • @KoshVader
    @KoshVader Před 11 lety +1

    True, I wish there were more, I don't usually read slash fics, but G'Kar/Lando ones are so cute I can't resist. :)

  • @joannamcdee9061
    @joannamcdee9061 Před rokem +1

    G’Kar: the Philosopher-Priest...

  • @ayanithtalreign
    @ayanithtalreign Před rokem +1

    "Your people constantly tried to take my life, so I got used to it being in danger!"
    "I was never permitted to have the luxury of a life, so I grew used to not having one."
    "On second thought, singing underground was fun!"

  • @RandallHallKaizenReiki
    @RandallHallKaizenReiki Před 2 lety +6

    The relationship between those two is one of the best things about Babylon 5. In Season 1, you see Londo's vision of his death at G'kar's hands, and you think it is a very natural ending for them. But when it happens for real, it is exactly the opposite of what you expected.

    • @Kref3
      @Kref3 Před 10 měsíci +1

      In the end it was a mercy killing.

  • @Corazone1983
    @Corazone1983 Před 11 lety +2

    Best script writers ever!

  • @patrickrobinson545
    @patrickrobinson545 Před 2 lety

    one of the best episodes in the BF5.

  • @tatianalyulkin410
    @tatianalyulkin410 Před 2 lety

    My poor Londo, I know just how you feel.

  • @Mxyzptlksac
    @Mxyzptlksac Před 3 lety +1

    Reminds me a lady I used to work with. I was an out loud proud hippie atheist gay liberal and she was a conservative christian we used to trade fun barbs all day long.

  • @keiman74
    @keiman74 Před 5 lety

    No one lays down a hard truth like G'Kar.

  • @mrtencza
    @mrtencza Před 5 lety +1

    A few things....sold yourself to the shadows, which ruined Narn/Centauri relations, led to the bombing of the Narn Homeworld, almost destroyed Centauri Prime during the Shadow War, then came the Drakh incursion. A few things indeed....

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 Před 4 lety +1

      Narn/Centauri relations were already in tatters. He couldn't have known the Emperor's plan. He didn't even know they were the Shadows, perse, until he was already trying to disentangle himself from them. But then they manipulated him, and it all went haywire. :P

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164

    I remember this episode. It is presented from the point of view from 2 low ranking B5 staff.

  • @TankClash
    @TankClash Před 9 lety +5

    Triforce on the wall

  • @juliomarco8592
    @juliomarco8592 Před 11 lety +1

    Their religion is a very interesting part of the characters and that gives them a lot of life (and reasons to poke each other).
    In the end, it was G'Kar's "Book of G'Quan" that had the most accurate descriptions of the Shadows and Londo's religion (caricatural as all other aspects of Centauri day-by-day life) gave us lots of smiles all through the show.
    I would not poke their religions. :D

  • @maxacorn
    @maxacorn Před 10 měsíci

    londo: afraid i won't come back, g'kar?
    g'kar: no. i'm afraid you will.
    londo: :D

  • @pak40l46
    @pak40l46 Před 3 lety +3

    Sci-fi's version of Felix and Oscar, the Odd Couple. I feel so dated.

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 Před 6 lety +2

    I always thought the Lando/G'Kar relationship was one of the most interesting on TV

  • @thryce82
    @thryce82 Před 4 lety +3

    that line " u didnt grow up you grew old " such good writing

  • @FatalFist
    @FatalFist Před 11 lety +5

    Prometheus wasn't a space drama though, it was a straight up thriller. The Aliens franchise was never known for its social circles where as Babylon 5 was a series within its own little niche. You can't compare the two, however you can somewhat draw comparisons between Babylon 5 and Mass Effect.

  • @Ostsol
    @Ostsol Před rokem

    From fiercest of enemies to bros.

  • @purpleisthesneakiest
    @purpleisthesneakiest Před 5 lety

    I'll go too, good idea.

  • @davidhenderson3400
    @davidhenderson3400 Před 5 lety +29

    This was back when writers knew how to write. Now days it seems all of them have forgotten how to ever write their own name.

    • @AnonEyeMouse
      @AnonEyeMouse Před 4 lety +3

      People said the same thing when this was written, about this. That it was modern trash and what was written before was better. The fact is there are gems written in every generation, but you generally have to wait for the perspective of hindsight to spot them. Even then, some remain hidden, lost classics that were never unearthed.

    • @vonfaustien3957
      @vonfaustien3957 Před 4 lety

      Look into the expanse its well written.

    • @catwhowalksbyhimself
      @catwhowalksbyhimself Před 4 lety +1

      Every generation says this and every generation is wrong. There is talent in every generation, but it's the minority. The vast majority of everything made in all time periods is trash. The thing about trash, is that no one keeps it. It gets thrown away and forgotten. So when we look at the trash being made now, and then look back and the very, very few thing made then that we still remember because it's not trash, we mistakenly think that things were better back then. It's not true. We just having thrown away the modern trash yet, so it's harder to see the treasure buried in it. It's still there, though.

    • @andrewmelnikov292
      @andrewmelnikov292 Před 4 lety +1

      ​@@AnonEyeMouse Sounds like something G'Kar would have said.

    • @joelquinn5347
      @joelquinn5347 Před 3 lety

      @@AnonEyeMouse Yes and no. In generell people tend to discard the new and romantacise the old. Nontheless it from time to time can hold some truths. Compare it with what is considered the best at the moment and you can somewhat make the case. BSG had some flair of B5 and The Expanse is considered the best at the moment. While i love the Expanse for many reasons it has not the overall depth of B5. B5 had everything in it and dealt with everything on a pretty deep level. Sure influenced by what was valued at this time but nonetheless very broad spectrum. The Expanse has many pluses but noth that scale and depth. I can not make a ideal or universal statement about it but by comparing what is considered the best you at least have some ground to walk on. And for the reasons? I cant tell. Is it that the audiance want something different (audiance dont know what they want until they see it) is it about money you can earn with it, is it because values shifted that much or is it because our streamlined education is pure garbage and we produced bleaker people who get the feeling of a revelation if you start to connect some dots. Who knows; i do not.

  • @bscar
    @bscar Před 6 lety +2

    There are some scenes with Londo and G'Kar where I have to question if they had a script or just ad-libbed the whole thing. The scene where those 2 are stuck in the elevator after an explosion and G'Kar watches Londo trying to escape after he wakes up is a prime example.

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts Před 4 lety +3

      ad-libbing was rare and was often done for blooper reels. sometimes the actor as in the case of the elevator made the case to do something different then what was in the script. Andreas argued that having G'kar not be serious at the situation but giddy at seeing Londo die would be much better.

  • @brandonlink6568
    @brandonlink6568 Před 4 lety

    This is an interesting scene, for starters the dialogue is amazing but also they decided to film this handheld and with a wide angle lens, I wonder if that was stylistic or because it was a small set.

  • @SgtSplatter782
    @SgtSplatter782 Před 11 lety +1

    Just as long as they don't go poking the bushes and plants to release the holy power of their Dieties.

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster Před 6 lety

      I think that is just the Drazi - They are not the sharpest tools in the box.

  • @maxacorn
    @maxacorn Před 2 lety

    they are like an old married couple. i love it.

  • @Taospark
    @Taospark Před 11 lety +1

    I still remember the season one quote where someone noted that if they were to marry, the universe would be utterly screwed.

  • @juliomarco8592
    @juliomarco8592 Před 12 lety +1

    Sincerely, I think JMS views the B5 Universe by the eyes of those two best enemies. :)

  • @juniorjenova
    @juniorjenova Před 11 lety

    i liked this show.everything i love in a same show - sci fi,aliens,action,controversials,humor,romantic.and my most favorite character is Londo,specially his hairdo;):).

  • @AnvilMAn603
    @AnvilMAn603 Před 11 lety

    oh im sure there is but there would be a hell of a lot more if this series was recent

  • @josefinbjork1086
    @josefinbjork1086 Před 3 lety +1

    Londo just had a pretty cage

  • @rbear1231
    @rbear1231 Před 6 lety

    all the great moments in five seasons and this one...is it sad that this one and the scene where Londo and G'kar kill each other are two of the top ten moments in the whole show?

    • @Silanael
      @Silanael  Před 6 lety

      I do not know where that statistic comes from, but I feel it indeed is a powerful moment that deserves recognition. It encapsulates what B5 is really about: people, not space battles. What people feel, why they do what they do, why they became what they've become.. The scene gives valuable insight to the Londo's character and presents us with two different kind of shelters and the burden that comes within. The latter is the reason for the upload.

    • @Silanael
      @Silanael  Před 6 lety

      I do not know where that statistic comes from, but I feel it indeed is a powerful moment that deserves recognition. It encapsulates what B5 is really about: people, not space battles. What people feel, why they do what they do, why they became what they've become.. The scene gives valuable insight to the Londo's character and presents us with two different kind of shelters and the burden that comes within. The latter is the reason for the upload.

    • @Rilbur
      @Rilbur Před 5 lety

      No, not sad. I'm not sure I agree with you that the death scene is in the top ten, but not sad.
      B5 was Sci-Fi at it's best, with the science fiction providing, not the purpose of the story, but rather a backdrop to let the authors posit ideas and questions that would be difficult to address in the 'real' world, or isolating those ideas and questions from contexts that would make it difficult for people to honestly analyze them.