This is a good one, The Battle for Beta-Garmon

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  • čas přidán 22. 03. 2024
  • This book is available for pre-order from today (date of video launch) and it slaps. There's lots of Space Marine stuff, Black Shields and Shattered Legions rules, which are fire, but there's chunk of Solar Auxilia as well. The Battle for Beta-Garmon, an expansion for Warhammer, The Horus Heresy.
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Komentáře • 53

  • @Frostea
    @Frostea Před 3 měsíci +23

    Slight correction, automata type doesn't give immunity to instant death. For most mechanicum automata, that usually comes from the atomantic reactors that they carry, same as dreadnoughts.

    • @Sir_Tomoyuki
      @Sir_Tomoyuki Před 3 měsíci

      I was about to say this too! Thank you!

  • @Malino8835
    @Malino8835 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Black shields seem like a perfect candidate for the alpha legion's mobius configuration; a tough expendable roadblock that ties up enemy characters and earns you points doing so.

  • @jimbusher5895
    @jimbusher5895 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Shattered Legion - hell yes. Arbitor Ian gives a great overview of how this set of rules will work

  • @Capa330
    @Capa330 Před 2 měsíci +1

    As a general info, the 5 core missions are a copy-paste of those from the Siege of Chtonia book, which in turn were a copy-paste of those from the event at Warhammer World.

  • @Daergarz
    @Daergarz Před 3 měsíci +5

    I'm past the 50+ Horus books and currently onto the Solar War book 6, never thought I'd make it. Beta-Garmon, aka "better if the Titans kill each other here than on Terra".

  • @Buffaluffasaurus
    @Buffaluffasaurus Před 3 měsíci +7

    Been hanging out for this one based on the previews; your review has just made me more excited.
    Feels like this should be the template for expansion books for now on… as you said, having something for everyone instead of just catering to a small smattering of legions.

  • @BloodBuffalo
    @BloodBuffalo Před 3 měsíci +12

    I want a heresy army so badly

    • @fernandorivera4719
      @fernandorivera4719 Před 3 měsíci +2

      What would you start with?

    • @LordGrantius
      @LordGrantius Před 3 měsíci +1

      Just one? I have twelve, and am actively planning a thirteenth!

    • @cutfromstone754
      @cutfromstone754 Před 18 dny +1

      I have four right now. The game is so so sick

  • @kurtl8425
    @kurtl8425 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Can’t wait to see this in one of your Bat Reps Winters.
    It’s difficult to find a 30k game locally so I rely on your channel to game vicariously. Keep up the good work!

  • @dankirk25
    @dankirk25 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I'm hoping that I can recreate my Chymerae Blackshields with Gene-bulked and Pariah Armour. Yes, the rules were somewhat counter-intuitive but they did represent Thunder Warriors pretty well. Having said that, the Oaths that were covered in the video made Blackshields very tempting.

    • @FrenchieArma3
      @FrenchieArma3 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah I’m working on a thunder warrior army and I’ve been waiting on this for that as well

    • @Balevolt
      @Balevolt Před 3 měsíci

      Me too my army has been sitting waiting except for test games

  • @tiredgardener
    @tiredgardener Před 3 měsíci +1

    Been waiting for the Blackshield rules (painted all my HH stuff in my own scheme), the vets as line and the flesh is weak sound awesome.

  • @Dwilson1282
    @Dwilson1282 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I’m actually quite excited about this one.

  • @Balevolt
    @Balevolt Před 3 měsíci

    I too will be adding Solar Auxilia, in the form of Metal Vostroyan

  • @Thedagda801
    @Thedagda801 Před 3 měsíci

    Looking forward to this, thank you good sir! Lore always!

  • @skywatcheradept
    @skywatcheradept Před 3 měsíci +1

    TURN 1 PRIMARCH DUELS in the middle of the battlefield incoming!
    (new "Clash Atop the Ghal-Zammad" mission)

  • @Dreamzkape
    @Dreamzkape Před 3 měsíci +7

    11mins in, I'm wondering if those weapons are conversions or an upcoming new kit for the Blackshields. Interesting.

    • @dankirk25
      @dankirk25 Před 3 měsíci +5

      They look like conversions. Some of the Marines have weapons taken from the Orlock kit. They still look cool, they're just not new kits.

    • @kieranbasham2678
      @kieranbasham2678 Před 3 měsíci +2

      As dankirk said they look to be conversions but it does make me hopeful that we still get a bunch of wargear options for blackshields

    • @Dreamzkape
      @Dreamzkape Před 3 měsíci

      @@dankirk25, ah! That explains why some looked familiar. I'm now trying to figure out which bits they might be. I personally like the heavy bolter/stubber feel; which might be working as an autocannon, I assume. Will have to wait until I see their wargear rules.

  • @StephenLeaSheppard
    @StephenLeaSheppard Před 3 měsíci +2

    Is there anything in there like the old Blackshield Marauder unit, which lets you do stupid modeling tricks like a unit of marines armed with lasguns (because all their boltguns broke and the lasguns are all they've been able to scavenge)?

    • @wintersSEO
      @wintersSEO  Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yes

    • @StephenLeaSheppard
      @StephenLeaSheppard Před 3 měsíci

      My one concern allayed. Thank you.

    • @BazookaJRambo
      @BazookaJRambo Před měsícem

      Could you specifically say what old Blackshield Marauder options have been carried over:
      Are there still Xenos Deathlocks, chain axes, pariah armour, pariah bolters and flamers; the ability to field one special weapon per 5 men such as Xenos Deathlocks and rotor cannons and hand flamers; rad grenades for the Marauder Chief (is there still a Marauder Chief?), does the Nemean Reaver still exist or the Reaver Lord to lead them?

  • @gitsnikthegreat
    @gitsnikthegreat Před 3 měsíci

    I like that the front cover of the BETA-Garmon book stars the Alpha Gammon. 😂

  • @warpaintjj
    @warpaintjj Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent stuff! More 30k & TOW please chum 😊

  • @infernalskepandaen2127
    @infernalskepandaen2127 Před 3 měsíci

    I am kind of confused, perhaps you can help me, I don't play the miniatures nor anything related, I am into the lore, books and stuff like that, is this book worth it as reading material, as a complement to the HH/Siege books?

    • @wintersSEO
      @wintersSEO  Před 3 měsíci

      I would say, if you already get source books for the lore, the other Heresy supplements and the big rule book for example, then you'll want this one too. If you don't, don't.

  • @skazkatzroy3444
    @skazkatzroy3444 Před 3 měsíci

    The Garm of Batle-Bameron

  • @nibblerseven
    @nibblerseven Před 3 měsíci

    Quick question, but do we know if Eternal Vendetta would allow you to select Custodes as the target? Because THAT is something I can narratively get behind.

    • @wintersSEO
      @wintersSEO  Před 3 měsíci +1

      No. Only legions

    • @nibblerseven
      @nibblerseven Před 3 měsíci

      @@wintersSEOAh gotcha. Thanks for the reply!

  • @Jackalos1
    @Jackalos1 Před 3 měsíci

    Unfortunately, I don't think the new company command squad can be taken by consuls as consuls are not considered centurions (pg. 104 liber astartes/hereticus).

  • @LordGrantius
    @LordGrantius Před 3 měsíci

    I've tried to summarize the Shattered Legions rules three times now. I'm convinced there's no good way to do it.
    The part that bothers me, from what I've heard, is that you have to count the number of models every phase, which would be counting models 24 times for every unit in a four turn game. That's wild, and not in a great way

  • @jeanpierdavidvegachoque6947
    @jeanpierdavidvegachoque6947 Před 3 měsíci

    yeah blackshields

  • @PaTrickRTreat
    @PaTrickRTreat Před 3 měsíci

    There should be no word bearers shattered legions

    • @DrippyWaffler
      @DrippyWaffler Před 2 měsíci

      Between Calth and the silent purges, Word Bearers should absolutely be able to make shattered legions

  • @Balevolt
    @Balevolt Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, Shattered Legions was so much easier to run last edition

  • @jiveturky3000
    @jiveturky3000 Před 3 měsíci

    Sounds good. That last book was a dud maybe this is a good standard.

  • @volcano3493
    @volcano3493 Před 3 měsíci

    Shattered Legions rules sound great.

  • @Pugggle
    @Pugggle Před 3 měsíci +1

    This book "slaps" ???

  • @traitorouskin7492
    @traitorouskin7492 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think ' you can do this but don't be a dick' should be added to a lot of rules etc

  • @theezekarion164
    @theezekarion164 Před 3 měsíci

    Sharterd Legion can't have any of the 3 legions specific units?
    No Iron hands morlock or Salamanders firedrake or Ravenguard Talon jump packs.
    The shatters Legion is unplayable.

  • @cthuludreams1
    @cthuludreams1 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I absolutely rebuke the stupid retcon of the Selucid Thorakites and Prosperine Spireguard into Solar Auxilia regiments. Atbitrary dumb lore changes

    • @playfulruss4227
      @playfulruss4227 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Inferno mentioned there were three main regimental types from Prospero, including an expeditionary regiment, the spireguard and the airguard. So you can definitely imagine these as the more expeditionary - ie solar formed - elements of the Guard, something which Inferno also presents :)

  • @nickkapalo4881
    @nickkapalo4881 Před 3 měsíci +2

    How can the Betagarmonn book a good one with no blood angels content (who lead the action) and shattered legions content (who lore wise weren’t really involved)?
    I’ve had the chance to flick through this and it’s a hot mess…writing on a par with the ‘iconic’ ‘forgotten’ battle of siege of Cthonia…a phrase that appears throughout that book and is completely oxymoronic. GW writers in general don’t seem to have any grasp of grammar and vocabulary…marketed as ‘the deep void’ wars between the shattered legions and Horus’ advancing forces this book would made more sense.
    And when is anybody going to call out the lack of Azkaellon and the sanguinary guard?