Italian stadiums are sh*t (except this one)
Vložit
- čas přidán 21. 02. 2024
- I took the Juventus stadium tour in Turin. Juve are Serie A's most successful team having won over 30 league titles and 2 European Cups.
The Allianz Stadium (Juventus Stadium) is the only modern, large stadium in the country and still only holds just over 41,000 spectators. The San Siro, Stadio Olimpico, Stadio Diego Armando Maradona are all old and historic but don't have the modern facilities of Juventus.
Will Roma, Lazio, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Napoli and other big Italian football clubs one day own their own stadium?
#football #soccer #italy - Sport
I do love Italy and the history of their iconic stadiums. BUT, it's fair to say most don't live up to modern standards. However, Juventus have an incredible new, modern stadium. Where should I visit in Italy next???
San Siro is great , really old and outdated but the steepness of the stands gives you an incredible view and it's very atmospheric, the atmosphere doesn't come through properly on The TV.
The stadium in Bologna is very pretty but massively outdated , I wasn't in it or a match just pottered about outside it.City Centre is lovely though, I love the covered walkways.
Artemio Franchi is Florence is really outdated (the un-covered side of the ground has no toilets only a couple of portaloos) but it has a beautiful view of the outskirts of Florence from the upper tier and it looks unique with the grass behind each goal and the tower on one side of the ground.
gewiss stadium (atalanta)
would love to see Perugia or Salernitana mate
Give me an old out-dated san siro over all the shite soulless modern day stadiums
GREAT!!!
Facts
You explained everything. Thank you
Modern stadiums are soulless
They are soulless. They may look impressive but there's no character. The old stadiums all have a lot of history to them which makes them fascinating.
Most of the stadiums are owned by the municipality. Even if they want to paint or fix something, they have to ask and get approval by council
But they won't ask for that... They just don't care!
@@B.R.0101they actually ask for it. We are full of new stadiums projects and renderings but the red tape makes it all so difficult
Italy is built on tradition. They are not like us, hungry for a sparkling new stadium. Leave them be. Just because we think the way forward is an enhanced fan experience, it doesn’t mean they have to think it. I get it, football is a business but tradition is also just as important to the fan than money.
👍👍👍
I'm a fan from Italy and I dont agree whith you. Yes, of course there are a lot of people whom enjoyed the old stadiums beacause they associated old feelings of joy whith those buildings but young people like me are struggling for the importance of new stadiums due the features of this new era and meaningfullness for the economic stability for a club
No. They would rather put the money into their pockets instead of investing in the stadiums.
One minute you want unique staduims then you want same old same old modern plastic ..your thumbnails at times are terrible just for a click..Italians might not welcome you if you say this about there staduims
Not having a proper football ground is one of the reasons why Italian football risks to become irrelevant in the future
Who cares if you play in a stadium with lots of history if every year we see English, Spanish or Bayern Munich lifting the Champions League. We want to be dominant again as we were used to be
Modern stadiums are characterless dogsh!t. Bring back terracing, rip the seats out, reduce prices, bring back atmospheres. Make football the sport for the people again.
Well said.
agreed...
Hail hail the safe standing stadiums in England.
Sometimes changes need to be made, juve has its reasons too yk
Maybe worth visiting Atalanta one day! The stadium should be fully completed later this year and i think it will be around 30.000 capacity? It seems like a pretty well run and interesting club anyway. Also the Bergamo area looks beautiful!
Yeah, their new renovations make their stadium look nice
Was there last summer. The stadium is a beauty especially the mix of new and the old grade protected main stand. They’re also rebuilding the Curva Sud.
Bergamo city is a beauty as well!
Quite an odd stadium with the new ends bigger than the main stands. Yeah I know they can't demolish the main stands because they are listed.
The renovation will be completed this summer. The stadium will have 25,000 seats, in the new Morosini curve there will be an Atalanta museum and the seats in the Pisani curve will be changed. The 2 stands which are objectively ugly seen from the outside unfortunately cannot be touched due to historical constraints, two crosspieces will be mounted which will connect the roofs of the two curves to visually compensate for the difference in height between the curves and the stands. In my opinion the strong point of the Bergamo stadium is that in addition to being a beautiful structure it is also very functional unlike the Juventus stadium (I was in the away section and the space between the seats is really narrow and the match can be seen really badly, instead in Bergamo the seats are spacious and the pitch can be seen really well from any sector).
The San Siro seating colour has become iconic, like as in primo rosso (first tier red) is associated with the richest seats and the tribuna d'onore, whereas secondo blu (second tier blue) and secondo verde (second tier green) have been associated with each team's respective ultras (curva sud and curva nord) and even been incorporated in chants. I do agree the San Siro deserves a bit of work, but just because it doesn't look like every other stadium doesn't mean it is wrong. Also you should check the stadium capacity stats - Inter for sure gets >75,000 each game (as there are 6 closed sectors due to vibrations and the away end rarely gets filled anyway) and I'm pretty sure Milan has been pretty close in the past couple of seasons. Whereas if you look at Juventus's stadium, more times than not there are empty seats around.
Curva SUD 4ever
non ho mai capito perché nel terzo anello i settori centrali sono chiusi e coperti da un telone...
Milan literally has has a higher average than Inter last year. Regardless, Both of them Sell out every Game, the missing Seats are die to few away Fans
@@nmwk7800 It's fantastic that the second largest city in Italy can keep two football clubs alive. Great achivement. Clap clap clap 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
A trip to Bologna must be called for. Motta's side looking good in the race for a champions league place and with a Scotsman figuring prominently, what's not to like...
Thanks for this video, I’m a season ticket holder for Juventus despite being American and living in Philadelphia. I try to get to as many matches as I can each year.
Me as well. Not a ticket holder though lol
@@olney28 it’s with it, I pay only $630 for my tix and the matches I don’t go to I sell back to Juve or on viagogo. You try to attend 2-3 matches you would wind up paying more than $600
Dacia Arena in Udine has been renovated recently
This is great content mate! Visited the San siro in Aug 22 for a game and I can say that I loved the historic part of it, you instantly knew you were in an iconic spot in football, though I also share the same thoughts as you re the seating, toilets etc!
Keep it up!
Excellent Sam. Was not aware of the number of clubs that did not own their own stadium. Find yhis amazing considering the success of Italian teams.
Absolutely love this stadium. Thankyou! Another great video
Pleasure speaking to you on the flight home, keep up the good work!!!
Really a great video, congratulations 👍👍👍
Look I'm a Scotsman, but I still think OLD wembley is the most beautiful stadium in the world, especially when live aid was on
I'm agree with you!!!! New stadiums no longer have that charm!! The old Wembley was goosebump-inducing...today it's a stadiums like many others!
Aye its like old hampden too 150 000 supporters in one game
I prefer the old Wembley to the new one. Should've just extended it to 120000. Prefer Real Madrid's old stadium too.
@@BrianPinas9Today stadiums are all the same all over the world. Today whether the game is played in America or in Australia or Europe or south America or Asia etc they are all made in photocopy! Stadiums without a soul !
@@sethleel2754British stadiums were beautiful in my opinion! There was a unique atmosphere in the world , even in those with only 10.000 spectators! Today stadiums are moderne concrete castings without any charm!!!
alternative title: every italian stadium has a good atmosphere and actual fans and ultras (except this one)
Juve have one of the best supporters in the world. Ultras were banned for a few years and now they are back this season. Don’t write bullshit
Want some tissues for those tears
Aahahahahhahh.... Go back to sleep.......
Cut the bulshit you’re sad that we have a better more passionate one than you
Juventus have the biggest fan base in italy. Juventus have the most trophies in italy. Juventus have the best stadium in italy. Juventus are the biggest club in italy and you can't do anything about it but cry😂😂
But that's why we love Italian football! To be transformed back into time when stadiums had character and weren't cookie cutter stadiums that all look the same and are built to accomodate as many VIPs and corporate lounges as possible!
Italian stadiums are all in fact very similar tbf... and equally ugly too.
@@elizaya8191 horrid take.
Great VIDEO, congratulations
Modern stadiums are just shopping malls. Our stadiums can be not perfect, but at least are stadiums where you go to watch football. I hope that your modern stadiums like will not come here. Keep it.
fino al 2018 quando hanno bannato coreografie e gruppi ultras come Drughi, Vikings e Nucleolo stadium era una bolgia quasi inespugnabile, inutile che piangi. Adesso il tifo è al 50% del suo potenziale
Until your clubs get in financial problems. That's the thought English clubs had in the 80s until they were forced to change.
Do you like getting rusty nails in your ass sitting in those ancient seats? I mean, come on mate (I'm italian as well if anyone's wondering)
I do hope inter Milan, AC Milan and AS Roma get to build new stadiums as they have been discussing for sometime now but there does seem to be progress for those 3 clubs and on the football Italia website the development plans for AC Milan and AS Roma look absolutely stunning if they are designed like they look they will be up there with the best stadiums in Europe!
Another good video 👏👏
Italy. The best old fashioned stadiums. ❤ ❤❤ Except this one looks like supermarket
No it looks like a team that can afford their own stadium
@@stephanbiro3073 ⚠SPASTIC POST ALERT⚠
@@stephanbiro3073 Stadium for businessmen and celebrities, not for normal fans
@fnx4 I went their this year for the first time and cried my eyes out, I saw all other tifosi scream out the songs of juve , I saw fans waving the flags of juve I saw passionate fans celebrate when we scored and angry when we conceded, so no we like the rest of the clubs in italy have real fans. If you don't like us that's on you and go hate elsewhere. Find alla fine FORZA JUVENTUS ⚪️⚫️
@@stephanbiro3073 Juve is ok. Stadium is supermarket.
I first went to the San Siro in 1997 for a Milan Derby. It had been a bucket list event since one of my favourite world cups in 1990. I absolutely loved the San Siro and still do now. Would be absolutely gutted to see it demolished
It's a toilet bowl stadium like the rest of Italy...serie A Is behind compared to other European league's
Good video very interesting 👍
Cheers Mark!
Great video mate, as a lifelong Juventino, I love seeing outside interest in our club!
Just a clarification on the kits story (as I remember it), absolutely true that we got them from Notts County, but there was no mixed up order. We in fact had an England player who we asked to source new kits for us as our pink ones were fading. He contacted a friend in England who shipped out some Notts County kits for us (back when shirts didn't even have badges).
And as a really nice touch, in 2011 when Juventus officially opened the new stadium, we invited Notts County to play the first match.
best decision juve has done in the last 50 years. if not for that, there would def be no big names and 100% no domination on 2010s. hopefully our san donato project can start so we can at least think of better days to come
No moss under your feet Sam! Great vid as usual.
Man I'm praying to get my 6yo son to San Siro before inter and milan build their new stadiums. I went to see Torino in San Siro few times and honestly think that seeing your team palying in San Siro should be a right of every child :)
Next time in Torino, keep two hous to visit Museo del Torino in Grugliasco (hinterland of Torino), you will not be disappointed.
Btw, Torino's stadium Comunale was rebuilt in 2006 on the ground of the old Comunale, so it's pretty "new".
giuseppe meazza stadium is not in torino
@@challah4311 man I know... but Torino, Inter and Milan play in the same league....
Hi, I'm an Everton fan living in Lyon, and this season I've taken the bus to Turin for 5 Juventus games against, Lazio, Torino, Verona, Napoli, and Inter. I love Italy and Italian football. I'll be back in Maech against Atalanta and in April against Fiorentina and Torino away. Until the end Forza Juve.
Juve is playing todayy
You should do a video on Sienna.
The municipality owned stadiums are contributing to the financial problems for lower league clubs. My uncle and auntie live in viareggio (hometown of Mercello Lippi and the famous ref PierreLuigi Collina) viareggio went bust a few years ago because the ground wasn’t fit for purpose. They have have had to stand from the bottom league and work there way up from a new facility within viareggio as stadio del pini still wasn’t sorted.
Just watch the meltdown press conference of Mike Piazza on the rent they were charged for Reggiana stadium.. Italian bureaucracy and corruption is the devil
I think having the half stadium below ground, quite brilliant. Love to see more about the ideas behind its construction.
Great vid
I'm sorry but modern stadiums all look the same and are boring, there's no history behind them. I love the old Italian stadiums, the old, raw and gritty feeling. It's such a rare sight in modern football that it needs to be protected. I rather go to San Siro, Bologna, Napoli or even Torino stadium than Juventus😂
"Modern stadiums all look the same" 💯
You're exactly right. Love the big old Italian stadiums. Italia 90 was great
@@BrianPinas9 me too! Must be a certain generation that grew up on Italia 90 stadiums
Italian stadiums all look the same. It's a round table shape. Anfield is more unique than any Italian stadium there ever will be.
@@CryptoZillian Anfield is one the most horrible stadiums in Europe, even after renovations. But one thing for sure is the good atmosphere it has.
I did the San Siro stadium tour in like 2010 - it was amazing. Loved the stadium, despite it being a little outdated... But my only live game in Italy was at Palermo in 2022 and it's a fantastic old stadium!
Man, I have so much to say about this video.
It is very interesting, as usual. I learned a lot about a club that I don't like that much, as I prefer AC Milan, but one of my best friends likes Juve, and we have lots of fun when they play each other.
I always forget Bari's stadium when listing europe's largest stadiums in quizzes haha
7:50 The stadium wasn't always called Allianz Stadium tho. It used to be called just Juventus Stadium, Allianz came in just a few years ago
As an Oxford United sympathiser, I had pretty much the same reaction as you. When the hell did Juventus play SWINDON? haha
The stadium really looks good, gotta say, I do wish more teams in Italy would have more modern stadiums.
i love Italian and Spanish stadiums, they have character unlike the ugly souless cookiecutter monstrosities in the UK and Germany, modern is overrated
The UK stadiums are the best in the world. The majority of the stadiums are older than all your clubs combined. No stadium in Italy or Spain can talk to Anfield which is 140 years old, Goodison park, Old Trafford, Villa Park and Elland Road. Those stadiums are 100+ years old which has that uniqueness of close to the pitch which is typically British. Your stadiums are like gladiator arenas of 2000 years ago and have nothing to do with football.
spanish stadiums are by far more comparable to UK and germany ones. What are u talking about? lol
It seems to me that Italy is roughly 10-20 years behind the UK on stadium modernization. And much like it like pulling teeth to get Wembley rebuilt and the dozens of new grounds to replace the historic stadiums around the country, it will take both a ton of money and will on the teams part to replace venues like the San Siro or Estadio Olympico
Unfortunately, That's because we have s#1t bureaucracy...
I am an Italian, living in Scotland for over 15 years. I agree about everything apart from the title, if you allow me, the title is absolutely rubbish and click bait. Any player and supporter dream of spend a night in San Siro. The atmosphere is more than unique. At Allianz stadium it seems to be in a museum. Boring and sleepy supporters. It doesn't matter if it is small. Even ibrox is not a nice stadium talking about facilities etc. But come on the atmosphere is amazing.
It’s a lovely looking stadium, though I’m surprised that the capacity is so small and isn’t bigger considering the size of the club
It's because of two things, first and foremost they had problems with attendance at their old Stadio delle Alpi which had a very poor viewing experience for fans, just not a stadium cut out for football. Second of all it means that they can drive ticket prices up since less are available.
Also has to be mentioned that some actually claim that Torino FC is the most popular club with the locals
Im a JUVE fan and watch alot of matches live. Tickets start at 80 Euros in Juve vs 40 euros in Sansiro and 20 Euros in other stadiums
It was opened as the Juventus Stadium, only became the Allianz stadium in 2017. Also it depends what you want, new build stadiums just don't have the same atmosphere as older ones, hence why I am sceptical of Inter and Milan building new stadiums outside of the Milan city council area
Come to Empoli. It's a small city near Florence. Maybe it's not the smallest stadium and city in Serie A ever, but maybe it's the most resilient small one at the high level of italian football (Serie A/B). The stadium is nice (not as good as an England's stadium, but a good one for italian teams), and in my opinion, it is a smart spot to stay overnight, if you want to vist Florence too. Florence is about 20 minutes by train, and hotel are chip in comparison.
San Siro may be old and need some work but man oh man when i first step out of the San Siro metro station and walked towards the stadium the AURA it gives man it is something that not alot of modern stadiums can give.
0:07 i can see Goku in the backgroud his made a special apperence in the video
Did a football weekend in Italy this weekend, managed to do both Juve and Milan on the Sunday! I was pleasantly surprised by the Allianz stadium and the atmosphere, but it's hard to beat the uniqueness and the sheer history of the San Siro for me.
In other words, I only like 'new football' shiny, corporate 'arenas'
Surprised somone who likes his history and culture comes up with a line like that.
Not at all, I love old grounds. I don’t like council owned stadiums that have had no redevelopments for 30+ years!
You can’t beat the romance of the Italian grounds but if uk stadiums were neglected like that there’d be riots
@@FootyAdventuresyou're absolutely right, it's not that they're old, it's that they've mostly been neglected, and are not in very good condition. The old stadiums would be fine if they had just maintained them and updated aspects of them over time...but we've just left them to rot which is sad.
@FootyAdventures It's the 'clickbait' headline that is worst. Think I might take my chances at an Italian ground being better than Wembley, the stadium that has had more money spent on it than any other, but is still appalling.
Stadio Renato Dall'Ara (Bologna) is not shit. It's beautiful. 👍
Sorry to break rank with the creator, but this headline is pretty inflammatory, and lacking nuance and context. Yes, English stadiums are of a high standard. But of course ticket prices in England, are among the highest in Europe. And quite a few well supported English clubs, despite their large fanbase, live a highly precarious existence. Why is that? Most Italian stadiums are municipally owned. The benefits of this, to counter the down sides, is the club doesn’t own the stadium. That means the costs of maintenance are not borne by the football club, which reduces the likelihood of indebtedness. The only cost is rent. When Italian clubs financially do struggle, it is through reckless spending on players. Or the corruption of its owners. Not the stadium. If they owned their stadiums - like the English - quite a few more Italian clubs would go to the wall.
The other benefit, is the club stays as a community asset. And maintains its link to the town or city. Yes, Italian stadiums are not the most aesthetically pleasing to the naked eye. But in return, it’s give the club financial piece of mind, and the football club, remains with the community.
You have no clue about the stadium income of the English clubs. Liverpool, Man City, Man United, Arsenal Tottenham and Chelsea average 85m-120m from their stadiums. They can easily finance the stadium maintenance and still have money left. Just look up the yearly account numbers of Deloitte.
@@CryptoZillian I wasn’t talking about ‘the big six’ - even the Premier League. Everyone knows their bases are covered. I’m talking about many EFL clubs, who look over their shoulder at their very existence, most of the time. Despite attendances of 20-30,000 . It shows your own ignorance on economics, which judging by your user name, seems limited to a copy of Atlas Shrugged.
SAN SIRO is the most fascinating stadium in the world. whoever wants to drink beer sitting comfortably in an armchair or go to piss in a plastic toilet stays at his house.
I don't understand the modern need for 5 star facilities,easy entrance,decent seat and view protected from the rain,toilets that's all you need.Food and drink?FFS you can go 2 hours without shoving something down your gullet.Having said that I got invited to a box not long ago and when I win the lottery I'll be watching matches from there in the future....Keep up the good work
I wonder if this is like when the millennium bug was going to occur, britain spent loads on anti bug devices, while some places in italy just turned the clocks back, apparently. I mean they do have the good life, though i think britain has loads of great stadia. I love football stadiums, but i wonder if we are right in Britain, or if italy is right, in terms of what to spend mobey on, also strange as italians are famed for their best fashions. I think haviyfaded seats is ok, but i think paintwork should be kept good.🎉
Though I wonder if it's better to speak few excess pounds on a bit of beauty on the stadia, or getting a few pounds extra on wages for a better player. Like inside Ibrox are some great ornate things,. Aberdeen, at Johnstone, Celtic and Huddersfield and spurs have all had times their stadia seemed modern and amazing, but then everyone copied them, is it better to stick with a old ornate design that costs loads to keep ups, like interior Ibrox surely does. I suppose that it is good to have something to make your stadium look cool, to keep a bit of tradition, so i think rangers are right on keeping their ornate intwrior, i mean often modrrn stadia all look tge same, so its cool to have something unique, and some from the past, you already had, is easiezt to have. Hope Aberdeen can keep some of it's traditional stuff, at low cost, with the new stadium. Well done rangers on keeping the ornate interior, when it is ok. I think Italy is a bit like that, the land of the cool fiat Punto, cheap but effective, and the luxury Ferrari. Then again we Brits have minis and rolls Royce s so similar. Brazil has cool stuff as well. Maracana and copacabana.
You should go to Castel di Sandro. That is a wild football story!
Sangro
For a country passionate about football and passionate about architecture, it’s totally bizarre that they don’t do a good job of combining the two!
I never knew this about Italian stadiums! You need to tell us about Frosinone!
Just watched this. Swindon played Juventus in the Anglo Italian cup. Swindon won 4-0 and went on to win the cup. After winning the league cup in 1969 they couldnt enter the think it was fairs cup as a third division side. Hope this info helps!
I'm starting a campaign for fridge magnets of Meadowbank to be sold in Waverley!
Haha that's a long way off!
Yes, because they are going to sell extremely well, not.
I want a Meadowbank fridge magnet.
If i'm not mistaken in order to build a new football stadiumTorino council gave to Juventus the area of the former delle alpi stadium on a 99 years "free" deal...
Piero Fassino mayor of Torino at the time was and still is a Juventus fan😂
You're wrong. The deal was €25m and the mayor at that time was Chiamparino, and he is a Torino fan. Deal with it
@@thetemptedvida8650Sorry i was mistaken cause at that time the mayor was Chiamparino (Torino fan) Who made the 25m deal with Juventus but the following mayor Fassino (Juventus fan) inaugurated the new stadium.
The city made the 25 million offer to Torino too. Torino declined to buy the stadium they're currently in for some odd reason.
@@bendover992002 i remember Torino supporters contested the former Mayer Fassino by calling him a "gobbo" ( hunchback) derogatory nickname for Juventus supporters...
No, Juve bought the right to use the land. Just like AC Milan just bought land in San Donato to build their new stadium, and Inter planning to do the same in Rozzano. But it's only a problem when Juventus do it, eh?
Been to the san Siro , in the days of mourinho . Stadium is very tired unfortunately. And game against Genoa was poor . Amazing weekend though , happy days
Played Swindon in the Anglo Italian cup back in the early 70's
I think Italian clubs refuse to invest in new stadiums for two main reasons: they don't want to take the risk of investing a big amount of money (although they would get it in returns almost certainly) and they have to face corruption at regional level, for example Milan mayor refused to reason with AC Milan board, so they had to move their project to a nearby area (San Donato Milanese). Then you have a club like Napoli that has a president who is literally Mr Krabs, he wants to spend the minimum and wants to be praised if he achieves something thanks to managers and players, then proceeds to sell players or reduce their salaries.
Greetings from Italy btw
I noticed so many cracks already showing in the new stadium.
I visited the Delle Alpi twice, once in 95 and once in 98. It was a bigger attendance than 30k in the mid 90's as Serie A was still much more popular then, and Juve were probably the best club in Italy and Europe at the time under Marcello Lippi with 3 UCL finals (one win), and had epic teams inc Vialli, Baggio, Ravenelli, Del Piero etc. The Delle Alpi was soulless though, and because it was so open it suffered badly from the alps climate of cold winds and winter fog. If you watched UK Channel 4 Football Italia tv show match highlights sometimes you could barely see the players or the ball on camera so dense was the fog!
I'd rather have a character of a stadium than a bowl ❤
When will you visit the new Bernabeu?
What a title. 😮
Peterhead fc on Saturday will be nice sam. 😅
Thanks for watching as ever mate. And yes, I'll be at the Peterhead game. Then I'll only have Montrose left out of the 42 :D
@@FootyAdventures you’re welcome 😊
Very nice.
Yeah, Looking forward to seeing the Montrose video. Great community club and you can even play on the pitch on a Monday night with their Social events. Would Highly recommend them.
@SO-qg7zk nice fact
i am a viewer down in south west London so nice to see Sam’s Scottish football videos
@@SO-qg7zk are you going? They are hone this Saturday
I have just come across this video. I am from Italy and, yes, the vast majority of stadia in Italy is old and some of them are clearly falling apart. Juventus Stadium (and very few others such as Orogel Stadium, Dacia Arena, Gewiss Stadium and Benito Stirpe) are worthy visiting. Bureaucracy and lack of political will are some the reasons for this.
Fun fact: expect for Turin, all the above-mentioned stadia are located in small-to-medium cities. It's very embarrassing that big cities such as Rome, Milan and Naples are struggling with this
that was brilliant
Cesena FC stadium (Orogel Stadium Dino Manuzzi) is one of the most modern stadium in Italy.. you should visit it. Around 21.000 capacity. ❤️⚪️⚫️
S***t??? What a nice way to put it! Thanks😊
We should have more multi country tournaments so that some of these old stadiums can take centre stage again
I did the tour for Juventus in January this year. The worst I've had. 30 mins and done! Watched Torino v Napoli and really enjoyed that however.
I did the one at the San Siro (even though my team is Juve) in May 2023. Waste of time too. It seems they simply don't do this very well in Italy. Ajax's tour was amazing.
I thought there were plans to re - develop the san siro too
There's always been talk but it's owned by the city council and they move notoriously slow on these kind of things. I wouldn't expect a new san siro in the next few years
Most of the stadiums in Italy are old fashion. There are so many obstacles to building new stadiums in Italy such as government issues, most people there feeling romantic with their past, and lastly, some areas of the city are considered historical sites (being protected by local people or UNESCO)
Great video again mate, interesting stuff, makes me want to go to Italy now 😂👏🏻
Many teams have applied for the construction of new stadiums, unfortunately in Italy it always takes a long time to realize projects because of bureaucracy.
I am a Juve fan since 1995, and I have been lucky enough to be in the Sansiro and the Allianz stadium, but nothing compares to the Sansiro vibes and atmosphere... I understand the business aspect and modernizing stadiums for more revenue ,,, but I wish clubs would renew the stadiums while maintaining its historical identity. For instance looking at the new bernabue, its new and cool and modern, but feels like its totally detached from the realmadrid history - don't get me wrong its an amazing stadium but it doesn't feel historical anymore - may be am too emotional or too attached to legacy stuff, but for me Sansiro with even its current condition is better than any other stadium and i hope if they will renew it someday they will maintain its identity
Can’t disagree with your assessment. San Siro’s atmosphere is second to none but the stadium itself needs work. Problem is it has old bones and the City of Milan won’t let extensive work to be done on it. That’s the driving force behind Inter and AC Milan looking to build their own stadiums in Rozano and San Donato respectively. Both should have something in place by 2028 or 2029 at the latest.
But alianz Juve stadium is not allowed to host CL Final maybe
Too small
As englishman I think Atalanta's stadium redevelopment project is the best route for all Italian clubs to follow. You are able to integrate the old listed elements of the stadium with new elements which in turn will mean you have a modern football ground but also not lose the soul at the same time. Obviously this can't always be achieved as with likes Roma and Lazio it would be very difficult and expensive to redevelop the stadio olimpico if one/both of them purchased it so in this case they would have to build new stadiums, however this can be done correctly if you implement elements which keep in line with the club that will use it. As a Liverpool fan we have 2 examples of this in our city. Anfield has been successfully redeveloped in a more modern stadium but has kept the traditional older elements and Everton's brand new stadium has designed with key elements in mind, for example it is incorporating the traditional brick facade that many iconic english ground have and it matches the dock area it's being built in keep in line with the area and city. In contrast look Tottenham's new stadium which is an engineering marvel but it's very sanitised and clearly lacks the soul of an english football ground. You can tell with that stadium that it was designed by a yank haha. So Italy should focus where they can on redeveloping ground to incorporate the old and the new. Luckily with the likes of Bologna and Fiorentina announcing their redevelopment projects of their stadiums its looking promising
Tottenham stadium is wondeful.
As an Inter and Italian football fan in general who has been around Italy for matches it's hard to disagree with anything said about the stadiums here. The biggest obstacle is Italian politics, lots of teams want to build but councils who own some of the stadiums don't want to give up their money maker. Look at current Inter and Milan situation, mayor and council in Milan blocking and screwing them at every turn. I believe this is a big reason no big outside investors are buying Italian clubs.
Juventus v Swindon Anglo cup 1970 ! Swindon won 5-0 on aggregate, 4-0 at home 0-1 in Italy
Our stadiums are 90% old and obsolete...ok...but the modern ones around the world, don't have a "soul", they are all the same and you can't feel the history of football likes for example feel in San Siro!
sorry to miss you in italy
What about taking in a game with sampdoria
I'm an Italian fan, that follows his team week in week out. Not all our stadiums are s***, atalanta, udinese, sassulo have great stadiums in terms of facilities, and you can watch the game very well also. The real shame is in the away ends, I've seen pretty much anything and everywhere. Stadiums structurally weak so much so that the concrete vibrates like it was to fall down (south america style). The conditions of certain bathrooms indescribable, I remember in Florence they were flooded with urine and s*** everywhere, 3/4 cm of excrements floating, health conditions aside, I'll never forget the look of that poor women when looking down the stairs towards the toilets. In Genoa the bar is literally a small 40x60 cm whole in a metallic panel through which you need to communicate, pay and collect your drinks through. In Lecce 1 of the 2 turnstiles was broken, 1,400 people through 1 small entrance, complete chaos... I guess away ends in certain stadiums are worse that the conditions of certain prisons, or not so far off. I could go on forever with stories regarding the conditions of stadiums inItaly, in particular away ends, and I can assure you that the lower the division the worse they get.
lol good luck if you ever decide to visit one
San siro is better and more iconic than any English ground. I suppose for the upper middle class people in this country that watch football because of the prices of tickets…. Italy still has the rawness of a working class sport which for most traditional football fans is nice and refreshing unlike West Ham’s shit stadium the London stadium 🙄
Olimpic Stadium?
Gli stadi ora sembrano dei salotti. Era più bello una volta
modern doesn't always mean better, old stadiums give you feelings that this sort of shopping malls don't
My old man has told me the stories of Juve at the hallowed turf of Molineux back in 1972.
yes, you're right, the state of Italian stadiums is quite disgusting and not all clubs intend to modernize their stadiums. it is however true that some have begun to renovate them (like Atalanta for example) but, for Italian football it would be quite useless to renovate the stadiums considering that many times, during a match, the stadium is not even completely filled (talking about the minor clubs) while the major teams have no interest in renovating the stadiums
The two English clubs that won in Europe last season do not own there grounds Man city and West Ham 🙂
Swindon beat Juventus 4-0 in the Anglo Italian cup in 1970
Congrats 🎉👏
@@holeefuk413 Sam wanted to know when juventus played Swindon that's all . I'm not a Swindon fan
if you want to actually discover the renovation in italy made by the football clubs i suggest you to go to the training center, casa milan has its own museum there or trigoria is also beatiful but i suggest especially the viola park that is brand new and made this year by commisso, a huge investment for a society like fiorentina. There you can look to the 2020s in italy and discover how much we care about football
The problem is that in Italy there are a lot of problems in building a new stadium... Many team are working to get permission for new stadium since decades...
Can’t the local councils sell the stadiums to the clubs for a minimal fee so the club can then make more money and maybe success so they can bring more money into the area without holding back the clubs
"Why not selling the stadium for a minimal fee instead of getting a solid annual rent and revenues from other events?" Yeah, totally plausible.
Juventus is the biggest fanbase in Italy but not as much in Turin. 40K more than enough for them, attendances are also overstated at times as not all season tickets holder go (some of them come from all around Italy and skip games). There were instances in the last two seasons with probably 25K people max in the stadium. Milan and Inter on the contrary lately always fill San Siro, as Roma does, but they are unfortunately trying to build smaller stadiums in the name of the "experience"...
What?!? San Siro is the stadium of the opening ceremony of Milan-Cortina 2026 Olympics and they didn't renovated?.. that's odd and how the Olympic Committee passed San Siro to be the opening ceremony of the 2026 Winter Olympics in Milan-Cortina
Whaaaaaat
I’ll never get why people wanna be stuck in the past..
A big part of the problem seems to be that the political leadership of the cities does everything in its power to prevent the teams from building their own stadiums. The rents are a big source of revenue and the cities don't want to give that up. Many teams have tried. Roma's been at it for ten or fifteen years. Inter and Milan almost as long. Cagliari tried and they put the team owner in prison. Fiorentina as well I think. Inter and Milan were willing to completely finance the rebuilding of the San Siro (in exchange for long term lease), but kept getting the rug pulled out from under them, and eventually opted for building outside of the city of Milan. So now Milan is stuck with a very expensive-to-maintain stadium with no tenant to pay rent. So their shenanigans appear quite counter-productive now.
But I do hope that the new Italian stadiums that get built will have character, which is important for building atmosphere. It's possible to do.