G80 BMW M3 Valvetronics EL Mid Pipe vs Active Auto EL Mid Pipe - Which one sounds the best?
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2023
- 2023 G80 BMW M3 Valvetronics Equal Length Mid Pipe vs Active Autowerke Equal Length Mid Pipe - Install & Sound Comparison Before & After #bmw #bmwm3 #viral
This is an absolute sensational video. Thank you so much for putting this together! Both setups are great options, so much better than the heavy stock system 🤘
You’re welcome! I appreciate you checking it out. 💯 I agree…both options are far better than the stock system.
Appreciate you, man. Thanks for providing all this content for us. Helps us make an informed decision.
Thanks bro! 💯I appreciate you checking the channel out.💪
The Valvetronic on startup and idle reminds me of how my F90 M5 Comp sounds stock. It sounds good and much deeper.
The Valvetronic mid pipe definitely offers a deeper tone on cold starts.
Great video ! Def informative I’m in the market for a mid-pipe for my G80 and I’m gonna go with the AA Equal Length Midpipe
Thanks my man! 💯You can't go wrong with either mid pipe.
I’m trying to figure out the same thing. There are 3, different AA mid-pipes: single mid-pipe, equal length and an X-pipe… trying to figure out the difference between them.
How do you like your equal length?
Hi! Question, I’m getting delivery of my 2024 G80 XDrive, within 1 month. My question is, what do I got to buy to get the exact setup for the Active Autowerkes equal length mid pipe with the valve covers and control as well
Rip yellow ball at 4:47. 2023-2023, gone but not forgotten 😢 he was a real one
😂🤣😂…Realest of the real! Going to miss you yellow ball
Thanks for the review… so the consensus is the VT EL single mid pipe isn’t as loud and more mellow than the AA EL?
You’re welcome! The VT EL Midpipe definitely is more mellow. Overall volume is similar.
Both were good a slight edge to Valvetronics………are you pairing with an axle back?? Thanks
I’m torn on which one I like better. Both are great choices. I do plan on installing an axle back at some point but not sure which one yet
Thank you so much for making and sharing this video! I was undecided on buying single vs. dual, and personally, I like the sound of single more.
Quick question, I assume you are using a valve controller to fully open the exhaust. When you say OEM valve function are you disabling the valve controller? I thought using a valve controller meant it disabled the OEM functions completely. I'm new to the G80 family lol.
You’re welcome! 😎 Appreciate you checking the channel out. The valve controller has two buttons on the remote. One button opens the valves 100% and the other reverts to OEM function. The valves are never open 100% with the oem button.
@@carguy302 I appreciate the reply! Looking forward to your future videos. Cheers! 🍻
@@AnsweR. No worries my man! Cheers 😉
What valve controller are you using?
Hey CarGuy awesome video they both sound awesome, Im leaning towards the AA EL, does it remove the rasp of the g80s and how does it compare to valvetronic?
Thanks brotha! The Valvetronics is a smoother tone and more subdued vs the AA EL. The EL mid pipe sounds exotic, has a higher pitch and not raspy in my opinion. Can't go wrong with either
Dude what exact build do you have at the 14:48 mark? That is the best sounding I have yet to hear, want to do this. Cheers
It is the Valvetronics Single Equal Length Mid Pipe paired with the OEM rear section & Carbahn Valve Controller with the valves 100% open. Great sounding combo for sure! Appreciate you checking the channel out 💯
I am waffling back and forth between the AA EL midpipe and the Valvetronic EL midpipe for my G80 Comp X-Drive. For now, I am planning on keeping everything else stock except adding an SST valve controller. I've ran your video back too many times and am hoping to get your take.
I feel like the Valvetronic sounds smoother, more mellow and deeper...maybe closer to the straight up S58 sound? The AA sounds more wild and exotic with more midrange but from the video I feel like it sounds like it's lacking bass when compared to the Valvetronic. I am also wondering if the burbles might be a little over the top in quantity but maybe that's just from revving towards redline.
Could you share your take now that you've had both and had some time to consider both options? What would you do in my situation?
You’re correct in your observation. The Valvetronics mid pipe does offer a more mellow & deeper tone while the AA EL mid pipe offers the more wild & exotic sound.
For me the AA EL Midpipe provided the sound I was looking for. Especially on up & downshifts. To me it sounded like a true M car. Beware…Cold starts with the valves 100% open with the AA EL midpipe are brutal. Very loud and borderline obnoxious. After the cold start it sounds great.
The Valvetronics is a solid choice and is smooth sounding and not over the top. You can’t go wrong with either one. I swapped back and forth and my favorite was the AA EL Mid pipe.
@@carguy302 Thank you for the feedback and the helpful video!
@@BenitoBlanco_ You're welcome! Great to hear you found it helpful.
Definitely less rasp, now less weight by a little bit, win all around.
The Valvetronics mid pipe is lighter and provides a more mellow sound. Both are solid choices!
Hunnit percent open str8 Menace 💯
Yes sir!! 🚀🚀🚀
Any fitment issues with either? Did you use a dahler valve controller?
No fitment issues with either midpipe and I'm using the Carbahn Valve controller. Check out this link for the video on the valve controller. czcams.com/video/G8-lnnRRAYM/video.html
Ya your cold start sounded a lot better with the valvetronic!!!!
I agree! The cold start with the AA mid pipe and valves open was brutal until it settled down a bit.
I think comparing it to the AA EL is unfair since the Valvetronic more closely identifies with AA's Single Midpipe. The AA EL creates an entirely different sound that is much higher pitched and louder on WOT. WIth that being said, AA EL still wins this one all day.
I agree 100% . The valvetronic sounds similar to the AA single mid
Unfair to compare two equal length mid pipes?? Their mid pipes and don't identify as anything my man. 😉 I agree with you that the AA EL is louder on WOT and is a fantastic choice. If that is the sound you want. The great news is that both offer different sounds, different price points and ultimately more choices for us "Carguys"
Are you going to add an axleback to your setup?@@carguy302
@@carguy302 What they're saying is that Valvetronic's EL is still just a single, so they produce two very different tones.
@@vavrespaddr7290 Regardless of single or dual they are both the only Equal Length mid pipes available and are two of the most popular options for the M3. The point of the video is to highlight the different tones between the two.
Would this set up also work for the m performance exhaust for the g82?
I'm not sure if it will bolt up to the M Performance exhaust. It should if the cut points are the same. I've seen other people on Bimmerpost that paired them together.
Do you have the link for the active auto midpipe ?
I’m looking to add I like the sound of the active more. Is it just the Midpipe with everything else OEM on the exhaust system set up you had in the beginning of the video? Thanks
Here ya go… x-ph.com/active-autowerke-g80-g82-m3-m4-equal-length-mid-pipe-with-g-brace/
That’s correct everything else was stock downpipes, rear section etc. I did have a Carbahn Valve controller but you can see the clips where the valves are not fully opened and is using the OEM valve function.
@@carguy302 thank you for replying
Do I need the controller to get the same sound or will just the midpipe and the OEM valve controls still give me the same effect? Thank you
@@sincerelyp901 You're welcome! No need for the valve controller. The mid pipe will provide all the sound you want with the OEM valve controller.
@@carguy302 also what are you lowered on and do you have spacers for the stance? Car looks fantastic !
@@sincerelyp901 Thank you! The car is lowered on the KW H.A.S kit and I have spacers as well. I think it was front 15mm rear 12mm.
When just replacing the midpipe, how are the valves controlled?
I chose to use the factory valve actuators in conjunction with the Carbahn valve controller so I can open the valves 100%
Valvetronic or sure, but you have a BMW TT V8 also and we both know they sound 👏
Thanks for your sharing your choice and I agree 💯the BMW TT V8 is on another level vs the M3 in the sound department.
So at the end, what’s your favorite midpipe ? AA or Valvetronic ?
With the stock muffler
Great question! Both are solid choices but I prefer the AA EL MId pipe after spending time with both.
I would think the opposite as the sound is more mellow on the Valvetronic. Why ?
@@chayos93 The single EL mid pipe design is what mellows the tone over the dual EL mid pipe.
@@carguy302yes but why do you prefere the AA el midpipe so ? Louder ?
Did your AA rattle on cold start?
It did rattle on cold start about 1 week after it was installed. However It did resolve itself and didn’t rattle after
What valve controller do you use?
Carbahn Valve Controller
Any thoughts on swapping to a Carbahn exhaust?
I did give it consideration when it was newly released and reached out to Carbahn for more details but never heard back so I chose to go with the equal length set up.
what size of spacers for front and rear wheels? Thanks
Spacers are
Front 12mm
Rear 10mm
@@carguy302what suspension are you running? :)
@@XepicmX KW HAS
Before ends at 3:30, after starts at 13:45. Saved you 10min
🤔…Then you’d miss the unboxing, side by side comparisons & install.
Great video! Is that the stock muffler?
What’s the entire setup? I am completely stock right now but really like how yours sounds. Do you have the factory down pipe?
Thank you! Yes it’s the stock muffler.
The video highlighted both the AA EL mid pipe and switched to the Valvetronics EL mid pipe for comparison.
The set up is an EL mid pipe OEM Muffler/downpipes paired with the Carbahn valve controller.
@@carguy302which do you like better?
How would you describe the differences between the two?
@@FreshlySnipes I preferred the AA EL mid pipe. It was higher pitched & had a more exotic tone. The Vavletronics is a great choice and offers a smoother deeper sound.
Valvetronic designs all day and twice on Sunday.
Can go wrong with Valvetronics! 😎
what's at the axel back?
It’s the OEM axle back
valvetronic all day
Great choice! Can’t go wrong with either one. Both mid pipes sound 😈
is this stock downpipe?
Yes sir…Stock downpipes
Equal length must mean different things to these two manufacturers.
Definitely two different approaches to create an equal length mid pipe. One is a single and other is a dual. The main thing is that they both equalize the length of the exhaust in both banks to get a smoother sound
What % tints does that car have?
20% tint all the way around
Thanks! Looks great. Have a similar spec in production at the moment
Active autoworks sounds better bro
Thanks for sharing your opinion! 💯 Another vote for Active Autowerke
6:00 lawnmower. Please stay with valvtronic🥴 and lighter weight. Sounds much better valves open and closed
The Valvetronic mid pipe offers a quieter and smoother cold start over the AA EL mid pipe. another sound amazing under WOT
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Active autowerke is the best. The end.
+1 for Active Autowerke…Thanks
Valvetronic sounds more like single
It is the Valvetronics Equal Length Single mid pipe.
I’d just go IRL for the single. Made in the USA not China like the valvetronics.
I decided to keep the AA EL mid pipe and sold the Valvetronics system. VT is a great option but I prefer the overall tone and sound of the AA EL mid pipe after spending some time with both.
IN THE END SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THOSE SHITS ARE MADE IN CHINA
Valvetronics wins - better cold start, smoother, deeper sound, less raspy.
+1 for Valvetronics! 😎
@@carguy302 You should add their axle back to complete the sound. And maybe AA Gesi catted DPs. Check out Valvetronics CZcams channel for video of their titanium equal length single midpipe catback exhaust with Gesi catted DP. It sounds the best.
Edit: The video is called "G80 M3 Equal Length Titanium Exhaust + GESI Catted Downpipes".
Hi! Question, I’m getting delivery of my 2024 G80 XDrive, within 1 month. My question is, what do I got to buy to get the exact setup for the Active Autowerkes equal length mid pipe with the valve covers and control as well
Hi! It is the Active Auto Equal Length mid pipe paired with the Carbahn Valve Controller. I’m actually selling my Active Auto Equal Length mid pipe because I recently sold the M3 if you’re interested?
@@carguy302 I think CZcams is deleting my comment, but yes I’m interested how can we get in touch?
@@Bryant.OPossibly meet up if you're local. Do you live in the Philly/Baltimore area?
@@carguy302 we’d have to do shipping brother, I’m in Los Angeles!
@@carguy302 let me know if we can get something going 🫡