LMH and LMDh EXTENDED through 2029! Vanwall Return? & More! Hypercar Updates Episode 12

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024

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  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern7495 Před měsícem +32

    That Glickenhaus hyper car has some throwback/retro vibes about its look. Reminds me of pictures of sportscars of the 1970s.

    • @koraxi8958
      @koraxi8958 Před měsícem +1

      Perhaps a homage to 60's - 70's LMP racers. Just like the P45 Competizione was [first Glickenhaus to run the N24H].
      In the Glickenhaus hyper car I see Ferrari, Ford and Lola inspired themes in it for sure.

  • @Kaufman55
    @Kaufman55 Před měsícem +37

    I think you are spot on with Cadillac. WTR for IMSA is a no brainer. Jota was the only true candidate for WEC. I can wait to hear the conformation of the Cadillac teams for both. Looking for to the news of Hyundai coming with a LMDh. The racing next year will be awesome.

    • @alialibeyoglu7532
      @alialibeyoglu7532 Před měsícem +1

      I would like to see Honda in WEC instead of a team who didn't participate any class on high-speed

    • @definitely_not_nick41
      @definitely_not_nick41 Před měsícem +1

      Wonder if Cadillac will give JOTA and Andretti one car each for WEC

    • @mrjdmtunerboy.1463
      @mrjdmtunerboy.1463 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@definitely_not_nick41 nope Andretti can run two cars why they need run one for not reason?

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před měsícem +3

      Caddy has been so close to greatness in WEC, with fewer mistakes they could have big success so it would be a bit silly for them to phone it in now imo.

    • @definitely_not_nick41
      @definitely_not_nick41 Před měsícem +2

      @@mrjdmtunerboy.1463Michael said he wants to run WEC, maybe they do what CGR did, one Caddy in IMSA and one caddy in WEC. Unless they run two GTP’s, they’ve got a lot of options to choose from.

  • @crouchb15
    @crouchb15 Před měsícem +28

    We need Mazda back!

  • @jacobmoney3377
    @jacobmoney3377 Před měsícem +11

    IMSA and John should make an exception for the Glickenhaus, its a fantastic car that has showed its reliability and ability to perform it should be given a chance to race in IMSA

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před měsícem +3

      I feel like they have soured their relationship already unfortunately.

  • @CamPerry93
    @CamPerry93 Před měsícem +17

    At this point the privater teams should have thier own division for vanwall, glickenhaus,etc

    • @_GuestFive
      @_GuestFive Před měsícem +6

      I Agree. You could have a Hypercar and Hypercar Pro sub category like the LMP2 Pro-Am is for the LMP2’s? More independent entries should be welcomed. A lot of tracks have a support pit lane that could be used if thats a concern.

    • @namesii1880
      @namesii1880 Před měsícem +6

      @@_GuestFive There is simply no space on the WEC grid which is the problem. And I don't think anyone can justify the costs of Hypercar if they can't race in the main WEC series.

    • @_GuestFive
      @_GuestFive Před měsícem

      @@namesii1880 yeah you’re right, its a shame is all

    • @rickhendriksen3736
      @rickhendriksen3736 Před měsícem +1

      Or maybe 4 rounds each year or something

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem +1

      I think a shift of LMP2 multiclass racing with GT4 or LMP3 would open up a lot more space and possibilities with these ever growing grids. It should be LMH racing with GT3, LMP2 racing with GT4 and LMP3 racing with TCR.

  • @Myrkskog
    @Myrkskog Před měsícem +15

    Kudos for pronouncing Leicestershire properly.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Před měsícem +5

    Nice video. Really like the 2 cars per team, it will keep the space fillers and tire kickers away.

    • @FormulaJonah
      @FormulaJonah  Před měsícem

      Agreed! Thanks for watching, and glad you liked the video!

  • @definitely_not_nick41
    @definitely_not_nick41 Před měsícem +8

    Hope we can see McLaren enter in soon

  • @Calibra95
    @Calibra95 Před měsícem +3

    Vanwall is supossedly working on 2 cars, having to re-pass the homologation process again. No hybrid is planned to be applied.

  • @RoboRed68315
    @RoboRed68315 Před měsícem +3

    Really wish IMSA could give some kind of exception for Glickenhaus to be able to join GTP.

  • @Calibra95
    @Calibra95 Před měsícem +2

    Ragarding WEC customer teams, Proton is likely to get one 963 from Jota. If it finally happens, Isotta Fraschini could be potentially out. A manufacturer most important, but ACO might care only for the good performance of another 963. Let's hope I'm wrong, and Isotta gets green light for 25'.

  • @CJ-gh4eh
    @CJ-gh4eh Před měsícem +1

    What would be interesting is if the ELMS or other series allowed hypercars for customer teams and smaller companies like Vanwall and Glickenhaus. I know it's a big ask and it's a very risky move financially, but I feel like it could bring even more money and interest to the sport.

  • @dayaan3s632
    @dayaan3s632 Před měsícem +5

    Been watching for a while. This is the best channel to watch for endurance racing. When you inevitably get bigger due to this high quality content, please never demote yourself to cheap reaction or tierlist videos. This is incredibly good, as always. Love!

    • @FormulaJonah
      @FormulaJonah  Před měsícem

      So happy to hear this!! Comments like yours are what continues to make this channel grow and become stronger. Thank you so much for your support!

  • @lobsterofdoom6
    @lobsterofdoom6 Před měsícem +2

    thanks for answering my question! great video!

    • @LB-ls2lv
      @LB-ls2lv Před měsícem +1

      ❤❤❤

    • @FormulaJonah
      @FormulaJonah  Před měsícem

      No problem!! Great question, glad you enjoyed the video

  • @BeckerFlag
    @BeckerFlag Před měsícem +1

    Great video roundup of the current news. Glad to see such stability in the prototype and GT3 classes for sportscar racing not the endless changing that the LMP classes had become.
    I agree the '2500' rule should be dropped. Again the stability is there with these leagues and the WEC looks to be doing great even though they don't have this regulation. If a team like Glickenhaus wanted in IMSA I say let them come.

    • @FormulaJonah
      @FormulaJonah  Před měsícem

      I agree with your points, and I am happy to hear that you enjoyed the video!

  • @Calibra95
    @Calibra95 Před měsícem +3

    Glickenhaus should get a special entry in IMSA. Just for being american and the 1st ever hypercar to commit to the ruleset.

  • @JaymondoGB
    @JaymondoGB Před měsícem +2

    The Vanwall should of never been removed, specially for an army of yet more Porsches 968s, though hopefully the Jota thing with Caddy should get rid of two of them.

  • @Eagleracer38x
    @Eagleracer38x Před měsícem +4

    Mercedes said they would never race the 24 Hours of Le Mans again after their last spectacular failure. The GT3 car hasn't race in WEC and the ones in IMSA haven't tried to get on the gird for the 24 Hours either. I know it's been over 20 years now, but I still wouldn't see a Mercedes on the gird at the 24 Hours of Le Mans ever again.

  • @jarneseidler3610
    @jarneseidler3610 Před měsícem +2

    I really don't understand why WEC needs this 2 car rule. I rather have more one car entries like Vanwall, Cadillac, Isotta Frascini and maybe a Honda (Acura) than having 2 cars per customer but less brands. The only possible solution I see is to open the Asian Le Man Series for privateer hypercar entries or making 1-off entries at big circuits like Le Mans or Spa possible.

  • @johnvandeventer8668
    @johnvandeventer8668 Před měsícem +4

    Thank you so much for answering my question

    • @FormulaJonah
      @FormulaJonah  Před měsícem

      No problem! Happy to answer your question, thanks for commenting it!

  • @halow4
    @halow4 Před měsícem +1

    I think with all these manufacturers that are interested in joining both WEC and IMSA plus the expansion of manufacturers already in it, both sides should consider races with less LMP2 and GT cars racing alongside LMH cars. Basically have a 1-3 races a season where its only hypercars or instead of a full grid of 3-4 different classes just narrow it down to 2 for space purposes. I think Vanwall should get another chance and with Hyundai, Mclaren and possibly Ford down the line rumored to be entering hyercar class it's just going to get too damn crowded for some races. I've said this before but LMP2 should be multi class racing with LMP3 or GT4 thar would free up about a dozen spots right there.

  • @kpl4174
    @kpl4174 Před měsícem +2

    @Formula Jonah Notably, Ford’s new Formula 1 partner, Red Bull, has just revealed its own hybrid hypercar - the V10-engined RB17 - and boss Christian Horner has hinted that a Le Mans entry isn’t off the table.

  • @iNTERS22
    @iNTERS22 Před měsícem +2

    I think they should not make 2 cars per team rule mandatory for everyone - have it as a limit, but not enforce it. This would allow the new manufacturers to enter/return gradually (like Vanwall) while allowing more space on the grid for those who want to enter two cars

    • @markhunt7434
      @markhunt7434 Před měsícem +1

      The 2 car rule is for factory teams, not privateers

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem +1

      I think 2 cars per manufacturer would be ideal and maybe make a separate class/race series for privateer teams.

    • @iNTERS22
      @iNTERS22 Před měsícem

      @@markhunt7434 Fair enough, I misunderstood the whole thing - in this case I guess it makes sense

  • @fathertimegaming17
    @fathertimegaming17 Před měsícem +2

    The amg1 and rb17 are formula 1 cars with body panels covering all of the wheels. They are a completely different structure from prototype cars.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před měsícem +3

      Yeah, no it isn't. AMG One is very much a road car with an F1 engine in it. And Prototypes are basically Formula racers with bodywork on them.
      Valkyrie is way closer to an F1/Prototype car than the AMG One. RB17 and Valkyrie AMR Pro are quite similar, both illegal prototype cars.

    • @FormulaJonah
      @FormulaJonah  Před měsícem

      Indeed. Unfortunately the current variants of those cars can’t race in Hypercar even if RedBull and Mercedes wanted to enter them

  • @AlanFormula12022
    @AlanFormula12022 Před měsícem +1

    Looked forward to see RB17 in WEC next year.😊

  • @jimbo1058
    @jimbo1058 Před měsícem +1

    Great video Jonah! Do you know if Ferrari has planned upgrades for the new season?

  • @ra1nning_
    @ra1nning_ Před měsícem +1

    Hi Jonah, it would be much appreciated to add source references in the video description. For instance, news and announcements made by either teams, WEC and FIA. Cheers.

    • @FormulaJonah
      @FormulaJonah  Před měsícem

      Great idea! I’ll start doing that for the future 👊

  • @justjustas69
    @justjustas69 Před měsícem +4

    But where would Hyundai fit if they join the WEC grid? Will privateers be dropped, or do they reduce the amount of LMGT3 cars on the grid? There are also rumors that Mclaren is interested in the hypercar regulations... I mean, they will eventually have to find a way to go over the 40-car limit, right? 😅

    • @itschrisjerald
      @itschrisjerald Před měsícem +5

      I heard a theory about Peugeot leaving if they still not performing well, hopefully not 😢

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před měsícem

      McLaren is vapourware right now, they have been talking about WEC since they dropped it in 2020.

    • @justjustas69
      @justjustas69 Před měsícem +2

      @itschrisjerald Noooo I love that car 😭😭😭

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem +1

      They should shift LMP2 into a whole different race series, maybe racing with GT4 cars to open more space for Hypercars.

    • @justjustas69
      @justjustas69 Před měsícem +1

      @@halow4 Lmp2 cars now only race in le mans buddy 😅

  • @andor.prisme
    @andor.prisme Před měsícem +3

    There are rumors about Acura at Wec in 2025.

  • @louiienation8497
    @louiienation8497 Před měsícem

    It would be awesome if Imsa allowed LMH and GTP/Lmdh race together in the same grid (at least one season)

  • @JensonHarding
    @JensonHarding Před měsícem +1

    Jonah Do you think the WEC should implement the old f1 style qualifying were all HyperCars qualify but only the top 22 or 24 make it? To fix the car limit issue

  • @marioalberti6613
    @marioalberti6613 Před měsícem

    The field is the very best ever, now add some venues…more tracks in different parts of the world.
    Also Long Beach, make the race longer?

  • @alonsovalverdew5287
    @alonsovalverdew5287 Před měsícem

    I would like to see AMG GT3 in WEC, it is a very good car and its a shame to not see them at Le Mans.

  • @Yeetus-yc1vy
    @Yeetus-yc1vy Před 7 dny

    I’m most excited for the Valkyrie lmh

  • @shawness93
    @shawness93 Před měsícem +5

    Hyundai needs to bring their own engine. Would be weak to use someone else's.

    • @laupernut
      @laupernut Před měsícem

      If you don't have the expertise to build a race engine you buy one, pretty common approach. Just look at Renault / Alpine in F1. Keeping costs down while marketing a product is a wise business move.

    • @shawness93
      @shawness93 Před měsícem

      @laupernut Formula 1 is understandable but not endurance racing

  • @jelwing
    @jelwing Před měsícem +1

    Me still praying Honda enter WEC with ARX-06

  • @infernostorm7446
    @infernostorm7446 Před měsícem +3

    Random question for everyone
    What would be your dream Hypercar or GTP field with no restrictions on grid size?
    Mine would be
    Ferrari
    Porsche
    Toyota
    Cadillac
    Alpine
    BMW
    Lamborghini
    Isotta Fraschini
    Audi
    Bentley
    Glickenhaus
    McLaren
    Hyundai
    Aston Martin
    Bugatti
    Lotus
    If that were to be a grid it would be incredible

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem +2

      Mine would be similar:
      Toyota
      Porsche
      Cadillac
      Ferrari
      Peugeot
      Lamborghini
      Isotta F
      BMW
      Acura
      Alpine
      Vanwall
      Hyundai
      Mclaren
      Ford
      Glickenhaus
      Mazda
      And for that many cars it would definitely need its own races series, no multiclass.

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem +2

      And Aston Martin. Forgot that one coming in soon too

    • @hertzwave8001
      @hertzwave8001 Před měsícem +1

      Mazda
      Bugatti
      Bentley
      Cadillac
      Ferrari
      Porsche
      Ford
      Isotta
      Lamborghini
      Mclaren
      Dodge
      Peugeot
      Honda/Acura
      BMW
      Toyota
      Nissan
      Aston Martin
      Koenigsegg
      Panoz

    • @infernostorm7446
      @infernostorm7446 Před měsícem

      @@hertzwave8001 what’s Panoz

    • @markhunt7434
      @markhunt7434 Před měsícem

      ​@infernostorm7446 the company that was founded by the late Don panoz

  • @eisenerz35
    @eisenerz35 Před měsícem +1

    great video

  • @kpl4174
    @kpl4174 Před měsícem +1

    Wonder how can Hyundai, and possibly McLaren and Alfa Romeo can enter when grid is so full of cars....

  • @datboi7511
    @datboi7511 Před měsícem

    Maybe if the grid gets too big we can bring back having to qualify for the race, kinda like f1 use to have and like bump day for the Indy 500. Maybe a bit too of a wild idea and would discourage manufacturers, but maybe fun.

    • @Maenfy
      @Maenfy Před měsícem +1

      I doubt teams would build cars for millions, recruit a whole crew, sign expensive drivers, aquire sponsors just to have a problem in Qualifying and fly right back home. One of the biggest issues for WEC is the transport of cars around the world, there is no point in bringing cars that won't even race. Especially since Qualifying is basically not important in endurance racing.

  • @RianGamer1209
    @RianGamer1209 Před měsícem +1

    Great Video!

  • @thechannelimashamedof2361
    @thechannelimashamedof2361 Před měsícem

    What (if anything) has Joest been up to since the end of the Glickenhaus program? I was hoping they'd get the Cadillac partnership as they had previously collaborated with GM on the 90s Opel DTM project, but now Jota has been confirmed for that.

  • @asymsolutions
    @asymsolutions Před měsícem

    Vanwall "we're serious about returning to the WEC and doing good"
    Also Vanwall: *Gets rid of the most reliable engine platform in all of the FIA/ACO.*

  • @cascito
    @cascito Před měsícem +5

    I think Hypercars are becoming more popular and making more for WEC and IMSA, the viewers are also increased just because of hypercars.
    I think WEC should reduce the number of LMP2 and GT3 cars just by little to make more room for hypercars, I know it will not be fair, but hypercars are bringing in more money than GT3 and LMP2 cars viewership and popularity wise. Privateer teams should be restricted, like we had 5 porshe 963s in the last race of 6 hours Sao Paulo, WEC should restrict to only 3 cars per manufacturer, whether its a factory team or privateer team, so that other manufacturers can join and not left out like Vanwall.
    These are my opinions, I know alot of people would not agree to me, but thats ok...

    • @alialibeyoglu7532
      @alialibeyoglu7532 Před měsícem +1

      Why not changing the pit area and make it like IMSA so you can increase the capacity up to 60?

    • @cascito
      @cascito Před měsícem

      @@alialibeyoglu7532 Then teams will complain about others getting nice air conditioned pits rather than tents

    • @namesii1880
      @namesii1880 Před měsícem +7

      WEC already dropped the LMP2s for the full season. And if they drop the GT3s it would frankly would ruin the series due to the multiclass aspect being a major feature of it.

    • @alialibeyoglu7532
      @alialibeyoglu7532 Před měsícem

      @@namesii1880 totally agree btw. Without traffic management, races won't be excited. So multi class needed. Infact, LMP2 would be nice as well. 14 LMP2 20 GT3 and 26 hypercar grid would be amazing. Some either IMSA type pit garages are needed or they need to pick specific tracks for calendar. Or one pit garage per team option should be considered. Personally I love IMSA more about this situation. Their GT category has more variety and number. And also grid number is amazing. And they are limiting categories event to event on some races.

    • @cascito
      @cascito Před měsícem +1

      @@namesii1880 I am not saying to completely drop the LMP2s and GT3 classes, I just want their numbers to 2-3 cars less , so that more hypercars can be added.

  • @rizzledizzle
    @rizzledizzle Před měsícem +2

    Thank god for less customers. They occupy valuable space meant for manufacturers

  • @Geronimogriza
    @Geronimogriza Před měsícem +1

    I love your channel

  • @marioluizandradecosta3241

    O WEC e o IMSA , deveriam considerar corridas mais curtas onde os motores poderiam liberar mais potência!

  • @das_III
    @das_III Před měsícem

    i can't see how the world fastest barbecue will get back in wec

  • @nickprehna8870
    @nickprehna8870 Před měsícem

    I have a question which might be worth talking about and it’s in regards to Alfa Romeo. Could we possibly see Alfa Romeo join the Hypercar list in either the WEC or IMSA?

  • @jennycadena7290
    @jennycadena7290 Před měsícem

    It's official hertz team jota and Cadillac are teaming up

  • @Silver-o1h
    @Silver-o1h Před měsícem +1

    I really wish one day McLaren would join the Hypercar series. I have a question. Do you believe McLaren will join the Hypercar class at Le Mans in WEC ? That they could develop a car capable of outrunning most of the hypercars ?

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem

      I think they will. Maybe the end of next season or beginning of 2026 they will announce a hypercar program.

    • @hertzwave8001
      @hertzwave8001 Před měsícem

      @@halow4 from what I understand mclaren is kind of living paycheck to paycheck, if thats the case then they might be more likely to look towards GTP/LMDH

  • @OerlikonNoerd
    @OerlikonNoerd Před měsícem

    Hoping Bourdais can stay in IMSA and compete at Le Mans

  • @juanescape2272
    @juanescape2272 Před měsícem +2

    Cmon ford! Do something!

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem +1

      I say give them 2 more years at the most before they make a decision. I'm leaning on that they will participate in the hypercar class before 2029

  • @camp9092
    @camp9092 Před měsícem

    How about Wayne Taylor Racing on the FIA World Endurance Championship?

  • @mgr1596
    @mgr1596 Před měsícem

    Any possibilities on single-class racing for the hypercars?

  • @DJBubbleBoy
    @DJBubbleBoy Před 29 dny

    I'm still fairly new to WEC and sports car racing in general. What was the controversy with Vanwall?

  • @ZPaul_
    @ZPaul_ Před měsícem +1

    What do think of the possibility of Ford and Dodge joining hypercar/gtp? Especially dodge. Do you think they will just use a rebadged 9x8 or make a new one from the ground up.

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem +2

      Ford, yes. Dodge, no. Dodge is under some branding and reshaping mess right now and don't think they would dip their toes into prototype racing anytime soon. Ford is rumored to possibly make it happen in the next couple of years and would make a lot of sense for them. I think they want to see some success from their Mustang GT3s before going ahead with that.

    • @hertzwave8001
      @hertzwave8001 Před měsícem +1

      only way i can realistically see dodge doing this in the next 2-3 years would be to promote the hurricane engine and get more data for it, other than that they are mess

  • @alialibeyoglu7532
    @alialibeyoglu7532 Před měsícem +9

    Tbh Vanvall doesn't deserve to be in anywhere ever since they showed their speed who can be slower than LMP2 and have issues with homologation. Hypercar category turned something for bigger participants. I don't think any small teams should be on the grid at all. They all are way slower than big manufacturers despite they have BoP boost. Only Glickenhaus did good and even at their best they are slow in 2023.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před měsícem +5

      I don't agree with this. If they wanna show the effort to turn it around, they should be given a chance. I don't know how they will cope with the 2 car rules though.

    • @Romit12
      @Romit12 Před měsícem

      Alpine is awful, don't know why they are still here.

    • @alialibeyoglu7532
      @alialibeyoglu7532 Před měsícem

      @@Romit12 Alpine and Vanvall are totally different. They qualified P5 once and they finished all races except one. Their results are perfect for a car which starts in this season. They are even in front of the BMW in the championship which is a huge shame for BMW when you look at their performance in IMSA. Vanwall qualified behind LMP2 category once or twice. Which is humiliating.

    • @alialibeyoglu7532
      @alialibeyoglu7532 Před měsícem

      @@F1ll1nTh3Blanks ever since the grid is limited and possiblity to bigger manufacturers come, they don't belong WEC. Look at Isotta Frascini right now. Their only achievement is finishing Le Mans. They are terribly slow and not showing anything competitive. Lamborghini, BMW and Alpine has also having their first season but at least they are showing some pace. They can keep up with the top teams. You are seeing them in actions. For example BMW chased Toyota in Imola and showed us a great fight. Or Alpine is there with Toyota in SPA or Lamborghini fighting with Porsche in Brazil. Where is Isotta on that action? They are like another category on the track and lapping for creating traffic . So does the Vanwall. They also are making fireballs and bring safety car as a spice . If something happens and teams like Honda, McLaren etc dedices to join WEC, those kind of manufacturers shouldn't fill the spots for better competitors.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před měsícem +2

      @@alialibeyoglu7532 But I am always shy about this because manufacturers have patchy commitment in motorsport. Often times they're the first to jump ship when things don't go their way anymore. The sport is built off the backs of privateers with big dreams. I don't think we should be so quick to snub them just because they can't keep up with the larger OEM's at first.

  • @MihaLeban
    @MihaLeban Před měsícem

    Do you think McLaren will join hypercar class?

  • @antoninozullo9872
    @antoninozullo9872 Před měsícem

    Thanks for your great video and all we want glickehnaus back !! We love them and they have potential and passion
    Greetings from Italy

  • @EliasGydesen
    @EliasGydesen Před měsícem

    Hi

  • @coyy9106
    @coyy9106 Před měsícem

    Vanwall’s never coming back. And honestly? The series is better for it.

  • @anthonyleo6819
    @anthonyleo6819 Před měsícem

    No way lady you can't run a dog house

  • @GamezGuru1
    @GamezGuru1 Před měsícem

    literally nobody cares about Vanwall or Glickenhaus. There is barely enough space for all the interested manufacturers, who will actually put together a competitive team...

    • @halow4
      @halow4 Před měsícem +1

      I think Vanwall should get another shot but I really would have liked to see Glickenhaus in IMSA.

  • @tuankietnguyen4952
    @tuankietnguyen4952 Před měsícem

    MaFIA hates my team Toyota very much 🤬
    Hope they ban Ferrari, Porsche and replace them with Vanwall as soon as possible

    • @hertzwave8001
      @hertzwave8001 Před měsícem +1

      they should ban any car that has 4 wheels