Child Predator: Jared From Subway (Part 1)
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Fun fact: Jared began eating at the Subway near his house because he became obsessed with a young teen girl who worked there. He would go in and hang around, make creepy comments etc. She wound up moving stores to avoid him and guess what Jared did? He began walking the 2 miles to her new Subway store each day!! That's how his weight loss TRULY kicked off.
Smh, that poor girl
This is insane 😭 Good god
That is completely disgusting, that poor girl was probably afraid for her safety
Wow.. 🤮
did she report it eventually?
I love how unsympathetic you are about this piece of garbage. My father was a pedophile (who never got jail time but was stabbed to death by his girlfriend thankfully) and I have zero compassion for anybody who sexualizes children or are pedophiles, rapists, or abusers of any kind. I personally believe in the death penalty in those cases. So thank you so much for covering this case and so many others like it. I truly believe in the importance of sharing things like this and informing people, so thanks again. Positive thoughts to you and your family ✌
I personally believe in the African and Caribbean punishment for such demons. Death by fire.
I totally feel you. My biological father molested me starting in middle school up to highschool where thankfully my mother finally asked me if something was going on. If not for her asking I doubt I would have ever said anything. Unfortunately he was never charged and did no time, and now I'm trying to find a way out from under his thumb as I am renting from my parents due to crushing student loan debt... Oh yeah, they're still together after that...
@@Blood2Bruises you could still report him to the police. I'm so sorry it happened to u 💔
sorry but the death penalty never works. death penalty is too much of an easy way out and for horrible people like them, they deserve to suffer. solitary confinement at best or castration without any anesthesia. not to mention how long those people are on death row for a decade or more, so they might as well be sentenced for life if they are not going to die anytime soon.
@@parkcrashers5922 what a strange question.. if she is homeless imagine how many people would want to take advantage of her
It's genuinely terrifying how hard it is to tell the difference between people who dedicate their lives to children to protect them, and the people who dedicate their lives to children to harm them
I was thinking the same thing. What he was saying about wanting to help children didn’t seem to have the same impact on me as it did Stephanie. Impartially and at the time, it probably seemed fairly noble. However, when looking at what he would end up doing, it’s disgusting. He should’ve fried
Oh so true!!!
I'm a 42 year old man and I've never known a man who loved children until he had his. Fatherhood triggers something beautiful in men, but in my experience, it's fishy if he doesn't have children of his own.
This episode toward the end was making physically sick. That Rochelle lady was amazing. As he talked about things he wanted to do with her babies, I would have gone off on him. She was so strong!
Luckily this video showed the signs of grooming by Jared and can educate others on how these preds use their tactics to gain trust but it's so hard how much can go unnoticed for so long like most cases sadly. Sucks whenever it's people in power positions cause they take more for them to break and be prosecuted. Rarely anyone gets prosecuted harshly too from this.
the fact that rochelle was threatened with arrest and was essentially forced to continue interacting with jared is disgusting. it’s the law enforcement systems job to catch these people and i can only imagine what she went through in this process my heart goes out to her
The Ian Watkins case all over again!
Rochelle was so brave and selfless. I can't even imagine how hard it must have been to listen to that! She saved children, thank you Rochelle!
idk how she did it!! I would have genuinely lost my shit and went off on him. maybe, I could've stomached one phone call..but no more..
@@LouxNUH right! Especially about her own babies! Grateful she was strong, who knows how many children she helped protect, especially with the FBI doing little to nothing.
Oh my god! Seriously. She is a freaking badass. I don't have kids, don't want kids, I am not ok with people hurting kids. I would have beat the hell out of him.
Yeah, I couldn't even listen to the recordings. I could never do what she did.
She definitely gets a ⭐️. But I was a little bothered by her initial interview about he was so into her, then mentioned on the hot mic how “hot middle school girls are when that wasn’t what the interview was about.” Why would the interview BE about that at all? Perhaps she was caught up in her conversation with the interviewer but that was a little bizarre.
"A man that travels around the country clutching onto his pants and telling everyone about his pants is not a man I would trust." Greatest quote ever!! I love the way you weave humor into your brilliant storytelling.
Lmfao I said that to my hubby and we were both like yeah good point
“Pasty a** creepy a** pied piper” is a wild quote 😂😂 I love Stephanie 😂😂😂
“If you find children to be sexually attractive, you are sick and deranged and you don’t deserve to live.” I fucking love this this woman!
imagine being a teenager who feels that and then sees or hears comments like this. you wouldnt want to look for help. you wouldnt want to tell anyone and it would get worse. this doesnt help. this creates more predators.
*If you SA children, you don't deserve to live.
@@DomL562 No it doesn't. That's a myth that predators use to normalize people empathizing with them. Pedophilia is a paraphilia. A fetish. Many paraphilias are chronic. So they are not changeable and lifelong, but MANY MANY people have fetishes. It's only pedos that seem to want to tell the fucking world about them. There are necrophiles and people into bathroom stuff and all kinds of fucked up stuff. But it's the pedos that are the most aggressive with seeking normalization.
Learn what they are doing and learn that giving even an inch allows these people to take a mile. I care much less about some teen boy wanting to rape babies than I do the actual babies.
There are literally people who choose to be virgins for life. Sex isn't a right. Only rapists think that way. Instead of wanting acceptance, not engaging and keeping taking that secret to the grave is the proper action. And doing anything out of that should be swift punishment. People who fetishize rape and murder. Serial killers that fetishize necrophilia... none of them get empathy. So why the child rapists? Think about that for 5 seconds. Would you be leaving the same comment about the teen boy who needed rape/murder to get off?
@@DomL562 There is no help for pedophiles. Multiple studies on things like castration chemical treatment and so on haven't proved effective there is actually no cure this far for it.
Besides death, of course.
That needs to be put in a shirt....or a large banner where everyone should see it.
Stephanie, I'm with you - Jared's mere MENTION of putting a camera in my kids' rooms would have made me start looking for a place to hide a body.
I knew OF this scandal, but haven't seen anyone I follow cover it in detail before - so thank you! Guys like this deserve to have their shameful acts re-publicized periodically to keep them from being forgotten about so he doesn't get comfortable.
“ deserve to have their shameful acts re-publicized to keep them from being forgotten about so he doesn’t get comfortable “ - i’ve never rly thought abt it like this tbh, such a good point! i totally agree.
I definitely see what you are saying, but I wonder if the victims would be reliving their abuse every time it was publicized.
Dreading covered it last year and he did a great job. You should check out his video as well.
I agree with you. Stephanie always comes through! Never lets us down! ❤️
@@viviananoa33 I was just going to suggest Dreading too!
Stephanie, thank you for continuing to say “I know you’re compassionate but don’t feel bad for him he doesn’t deserve it”. I needed that. That comes from a victim of molestation by my step father so this is very very close to me. But i can’t help but subconsciously feel bad for people and their struggles no matter how shitty they are. Even my own abuser. So THANK you for snapping me out of that for this video!! Your words matter and I appreciate you.
Ooof...my heart dropped reading this. I'm so so sorry you were made to endure such trauma. Life can be so cruel and messed up. You didn't deserve to be betrayed in such an unforgivable way. I hope you are able to find the peace and healing you deserve.
@@h0rriphic thank you so much for your kind words. I really appreciate that. Actively working on it in therapy, hope to get there one day!
Jared gets no compassion from me. So sorry for what you went through. I hope you're in a better place
I feel your whole comment. I struggle with too much compassion, including for my own abuser. I don't know if I will ever not be this way unfortunately.
I’m so sad for you! Like so many who watch Stephanie, I am an empathetic person. I feel for you. As a compassionate person, you will always feel this, but your therapist will help you so that your past will have less impact on your emotions and daily life. Mine has helped me. It’s a lifelong process. God bless you.
The fact that she kept her cool when he asked about her children, I applaud her... because I would not have had that much self-control.
Me either
You could hear her voice change. She was so strong because I would have screamed
I remember this man coming to my school as part of the Schools for Healthy Lifestyles campaign, a program that gave me an eating disorder after my mother put me on weight watchers at the ripe old age of 9. Truly a stellar career this guy had.
I had similar family trauma regarding my weight. By the time I was 12 I was already convinced I was a worthless sack of nothingness.
@@BantiarnaMacRaghnaill
Same. It was THE thing my father always commented on about my mom and me. At 95 pounds I was still fat. Every single time until five years or so until he died. When we didn’t see each other. I was in my late fifties. I was fat at 80 pounds. Never mind that my he never cared about my heavier sister, who looked like him, or my very heavy cousin. Just my look-alike mother and me. 😂
Jared was always a joke and really skeevy, in my opinion. It was all about him, and he creeped me out. I grew up with people like that and can spot it a mile away.
Sigh me too - anorexic at 14. Rehab at 26 now 43 and I still struggle. Hugs 🫂❤️
@@allisonrae4828hugs 💕 we will get through this sending caring happy vibes !!
"His brain that had clearly turned into a Veggie Delight sandwich. All mushy and stupid."
Can we just take another minute to acknowledge how amazing this quote really is? Spot on Stephanie. 😂
We can't because I love the veggie delight. No need to bash vegetarians.
I was hoping someone would post this because I cackled when she said it but couldn’t remember it verbatim.
@@chellesama8256did you really receive this as bashing vegetarians? 😮
@@chellesama8256she bashed a sandwich bro, not vegetarians as a whole
@@loganlovesdubstepand even then in a joking way it's one of my fave sandwiches but i also saw the humor I'm not a vegetarian but i get that sandwich quite often
If we know anything about Stephanie, it’s that she stands for the children.
Damn straight, that's why we love her!
When she said "while Jared traveled around, waving his pants in the air and stalking middle school children" I died 😂 what a weirdo, why didn't we see it before
Sadly this guy lived in my hometown. He was arrested just a few miles from where I live, so this case was a big deal here. Glad you are covering this story. It’s so disturbing.
(hugs you)
Hugs and definitely very disturbing
@@origamipein18 that was so cute
@@recluseren Thanks.
Same here, I live in Indy. Sickening.
I cannot imagine how Rochelle felt, like the strength she had to not just end his life. I hope she got therapy after all of this. And Stephanie I hope your doing okay, these stories are extremely hard to listen to and you comb through ALL of it! Thank you for the coverage ❤
I remember this scandal but had no idea the depth of depravity this monster reached. I felt physically ill during this. But it's a story that needs to be told. Thank you Stephanie ♥
Same. It wasn't really talked about. I just knew there was some kind of scandal. It's so disgusting.
Wait till you see those in our leadership who are involved in this. That’s what they are hiding. You can look it up sites have it on those in powerful positions
My uncle worked as a forensic detective mostly in children’s cases, and it was HARD when a missing child’s case would be unresolved. He would stop sleeping. They became his kids.
i have never thought about this aspect of law enforcement cannot imagine what those people go through how much of their inner peace and mental health they sacrifice trying to catch those animals 💔
They did not.
Sorry to here that. My husband is a police officer and it’s the children’s deaths that hurt hime the most.
No one tells a story better than Stephanie Harlowe.
Stephanie is amazing; sexy; sultry and charming and adorable at the same time!! That accent melts me!
@@craigdelora4017 Ew. Can you just leave women alone? Creep
Thats the truth!
@@craigdelora4017frankly that’s a weird thing to say totally unprompted
@@craigdelora4017Preach!!
I’m only 30 minutes in so not sure if you mention it, but Jared spoke at my elementary school in the mid 2000s and I immediately got a weird feeling from him when he held up his pants and mentioned that he could fit 5 kindergarteners in his old pants… disgusting. Thank you got covering this
That gave me the shivers! So gross! Always trust your feelings!
I am 45 years older than you (just guessing), and yes, Jared, was always creepy. I haven't been to Subway since I was exposed to Jared on TV.
😮 Eeew!
Strange
Whoooaa, so creepy.
I’m Physically ill listening to the recordings and thinking about Rochelle’s experience - all in effort to get justice for those who can’t ask for it themselves. Bless her. She is a true hero & sacrificed her own mental well being to get the FBI what they wanted/needed. A Mental Health Crisis is completely understandable, even expected. I hope she gets an insane amount of good karma back, blessings galore and appreciation from any and everyone involved after this awful debacle.
I'm amazed by her strength bc I don't know if he would be alive before I go to police...
I could hardly listen to his nasty voice saying those disgusting things... 🤢Those poor kids 😭💔
It seems she went a step too far in her investigative journalism .. maybe wanted to catch a great story and also protect kids from abuse, not sure.. but the end product is surely disturbing 😳
I'm getting ill hearing of Rochelle's efforts. However much we might disagree with Jerod's tactics, he was giving many American kids live-fire preparation for their first encounters in middle school, something K-12 has consistently failed to do
@@MechaJutaro I don't know if this is some kind of sarcasm or what, but since when is molesting children considered "a tactic"?
As a big girl who lives a moderately active lifestyle and eats pretty healthily, I have to say I love how you approached his weight and health problems. You noted that most of the health problems came from lifestyle and diet I instead of making sweeping generalizations. I really appreciated that. I still don't feel bad for him.
Imma hit real hard with this one…
Being the fat kid in school doesn’t automatically isolate you from potential friends!
As a former fat kid myself, I knew my obvious physical differences. And sure some people were jackasses about it, but ultimately they didn’t matter (mainly because they’re the same type of kids who get into legal trouble, at least from what I’ve witnessed) I had to decide that if I couldn’t drop the weight, I had to compensate in other ways.
So I learned comedy, I played video games, and built my personality around being open minded to others. Guess what happened; I got friends! Lots of them even!
I’m so tired of this old as hell narrative of the fat kid being synonymous with being a loser! That’s not true; poor attitude and lack of a personality make you a loser!
Therefore, Jared Fogle is a loser because of his crimes, not because he was fat.
Melissa, I had a similar childhood and never felt that I lacked friends! I don't know how he even fixed his lips to say that he had issues due to being fat--no, he was just a sick weirdo!
Melissa, you are getting major applause over here from me! I have been from thin to fat to in between and I always had friends!! That’s because I didn’t hang out with jerks and idiots who thought that your physical appearance or color of your skin or your sexuality (except POS things like Jared) had anything to do with how you are as a human being! If you are kind, you are my friend, period! ❤
Dahmer thing with my brother in law. He was over 400lbs by the time he was 14 but he was confident, had lots of friends and even several girls throw themselves at him... Which he refused😊 I know that not every one has this experience, but he had great family who never made his weight an issue.
Exactly. I think everyone just got the bad vibes from him and that’s why he had no friends.
lots of kids who aren't "losers" are bullied or are outcasts. Sounds like you are saying that outcasts deserve it because they lack a "good personality."
Lots of physicsl attributes make kids targets for bullies, and being heavier than average is one of them.
I am glad to hear you had a good social experience at school though.
It’s insane to me how massive the media circus was around a “from fat to skinny” guy eating sandwiches but when he literally pioneers a child sex ring it’s almost radio silence 🤐
It says a LOT about the world we live in
When he got caught it was everywhere what do you mean
@@damnmuggleI remember hearing about his arrest on the news, but the details seemed vague. Maybe some news outlet covered it in detail, and I just missed it.
@@damnmuggle that may be your experience, but I live in Ireland where it was not “everywhere” and do not need to be corrected on my own experience thanks :)
@@AineBoshell you need to relax 😂 it was all over the news but that’s how the media goes they move onto the next big story. Details were online btw.
When he brought up Rochelle’s own children, I literally stopped what I was doing in the amount of rage that just surged through my body… omg I don’t know how she continued that conversation, without letting it slip… I couldn’t do it.
literally had to keep myself from throwing up when i got to that part and the talk of Thailand... Rochelle is a freaking hero, seriously. she saved so many kids in this process and i hope she is able to recognize that. hearing that honestly catapulted my nervous system into shock. i just got immediately nauseous, dizzy, sad, angry, confused, etc. the plethora of horrible feelings it caused legitimately proves how much HE normalized something that is beyond reprehensible. just... heartbroken and speechless tbh. this man is pure evil. I would've been shaking and crying talking to him if I had been Rochelle. She for real is the best of us...
@@QueenAna666 same. I had no idea it was that egregious… like yeah we all knew about what happened on the surface but for him to be THAT open and that deep about his whereabouts with these poor kids. Omg he can rot, burn, and be tortured in hell for all eternity.
@@xxDeeMmmVeexx THIS!!! The fact that the media picks and chooses who to tear to shreds is REALLY unfortunate given the circumstances and how he was visiting schools of his VICTIMS OF CHOICE 200 days out of the year. Like. PLZ😭 i cannot handle it
@@QueenAna666 it’s so sad and disgusting like. Why are we trying to protect the sandwich guy?!? If I had known, if anyone had known it was this bad… I dare say subway would no longer be in business for endorsing him. But capitalism must be protected at all costs… not the kids in this situation.
@@QueenAna666 also apparently he’s set for release in 2029… and he was beaten in prison in 2017 by a fellow inmate… I think he deserves that on the daily and he should be resentenced for life.
When you mentioned Russel Taylor moved in with Angela and her two daughters, my heart sank knowing the girls would be in the same household with their creepy, predatory step dad.😣😣
Same. I wasn’t ready for the mom to be involved like that, holy shit
Hearing him describe his crimes against that boy on the phone call was absolutely sickening. This was a hard episode to get through. My heart hurts wondering how many victims there were.
It turned my stomach too
I found it one of the hardest pod casts to get through..Absolutely awful how these monsters think this is OK to ruin children 😢 just horrible 😞
Same, I felt physically ill. I had to stop listening for a bit.
I knew Jared personally as a kid. I have lived in Indianapolis my whole life. He often frequented our neighborhood pool in the summer months. I dont know if he actually lived there or not. & He was a jerk to put it nicely. He would lay right at the pools edge to get a good look at us kids, I was probably 9 to 11, and yet so mad when he got splashed. Like there wasn't plenty of sunlight in places further back from the water. It was like we were supposed to just be his kids to look at and nothing else. And he would STARE. Not like most people who sunbath. They lay back, relax, read a book, or take a little nap. NOt Jared. He even tried being all nice to my mom one time and make conversation. She ignored him though because she saw the way he looked at all of the kids. Plus she didn't like the way he had yelled at us before for being kids at the pool. He's total scum. And I'm glad he finally got caught.
Sure
@@SK-ut6tw what she is just lying to lie. Cause nobody ever is telling the truth when they say they knew people. It was better if you just didn't say anything.
@@KarlyNicole sure
So the swivel started early . . . Thanks for sharing, Katey!
@@KarlyNicole just ignore comments like that. It's for attention. When I see things like that, I just tell myself "negative attention is still attention for some". Hope you have a great day 😊
As someone who was groomed and abused by someone at 4-8 I had a hard time with this one, but I stuck it out because this shit is IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS!!!!! Nothing will change unless we have these horrific and uncomfortable conversations because this shit is real. And Steph’s comment on the barely legal part struck a nerve with me too, I remember when my 50+ uncle visited and complimented my 16 year old best friend in her bikini. Teenagers are still children, and the ONLY people who don’t think that are teenagers themselves and people who desensitize themselves to that fact in order to sexualize them. Pedophilia is a RAMPANT issue and we have to confront it to tackle it head on
Well compliments aren’t always serious though but yea I guess that’s still understandable it’s seen as creepy but people can take it wrong it’s not always creepy even if you’re an adult it’s still creepy
I'm so sorry. I'm finding it hard to release mine too. even with two therapists.
I absolutely love how she just speaks with no filter and says it straight whilst still being extremely articulate! People could learn so much from this woman.
She's fab!
i did my final dissertation about this case, and i went to college at IU where he attended. the subway that he frequented that helped him lose all the weight was just off of campus, and just recently closed down. everyone in Bloomington talks about Jared, and some professors that had him as well. almost everyone knows him here. it sends shivers up my spine when i walk past his old apartment building and the closed down subway right next to it
I would be super interested to read this.
Seeing how shocked you are by how close Jared was able to get to kids makes me wonder if you know much about the Jimmy Saville situation. It’s common knowledge in the U.K. but not sure how well known the case is across the pond. Would hugely recommend looking into it if not. It’s beyond disturbing the scale of what that monster was able to do.
OMG! I just said the same thing! 😂🇬🇧
They're both hideous humans 🤮 (actually, to me Jimmy may be worse - he actually had that Jim'll Fix It show geared towards children! He knew EXACTLY what he was doing - like Rolf Harris 😠)
Yes I've said this too!! So much worse than Jared imo.
yes, some British true crimers have put out videos about him, Casual Criminalist and ICMAP for sure, that is an insane story about a very evil man
Saville and Coach Sandusky both came to my mind. They snake their way in those kinds of jobs to hunt vulnerable children. It’s sickening, man. Just sickening.
I just said this - it’d surprise me if she didn’t know about Saville because she loves UK tv. I’d love to see her deep dive into that nightmare.
It's kind of a trip, looking back, how Subway managed to disengage from him and come out unscathed.
My stomach PLUMMETED when he asked to see and set up a camera in Rochelles kids room to see her kids. The strength she had to of had to continue playing along, even though the rage and disgust must've been overwhelming🥺 idk if i would've been able to continue after that...
idk why it is so odd to never have been in a relationship by 22? i think thats still very young. some people just dont meet someone they are interested in until they are older, or they have other things to deal with. or it just doesnt happen for them. i know people in their 30s who are still single and dont have much experience. i think the "shaming" should stop tbh. i know stephanie never said anything about shaming jared but still, it always sounds as if people who are a certain age and still single are the weird ones and theres something wrong with them.
You're so right. When I met my now husband he was 25 and had never had a girlfriend before. He just wasn't interested in anyone he had met so far and there was nothing wrong with him
i mean yeah i do agree it’s wrong to shame anyone else for things like that but i personally don’t see a problem when we’re talking about a literal predator, but that’s not even the point of this whole video so let’s not lmao
I’m glad someone else said it because as a 22 year old who’s never been in a relationship that irked me
Steph definitely unintentionally shames other people in the cross fire.
WOW if this is the only thing you took from this entire video …. There are no words
Stephanie, please research Jimmy Saville, one of the most celebrated people of the 20th century in the UK. He was a monster beyond words and your description of Jared reminded me so much of Jimmy. He was hiding in plain sight with his children’s program that ran for several years and had amounted an astounding amount of power, money and influence that went all the way up to the royal family. There is a great Netflix documentary about him and many, many things out there that I am sure you would like to dive in. Thank you for exposing these monsters and may God bless you and your loved ones.
There is a Thousand & One Docs on that Monster!!!
Phoquing pédophilie
was just coming on to say Jimmy Saville! no one more celebrated than him
My mother in law was a teenager when he came to her small town in Cornwall to do an event thing. She was taken by their teacher as part of a group (schools were invited etc) and the teacher refused to let them near him when a couple of them were invited on stage. He may well have prevented those girls from assault. Honestly he was gross. Have you seen the footage of him on top of the pops groping a girl on camera? Truly a vile man.
@@nerdmaid1240 thank God for that wise teacher, she must’ve definitely felt something was off about him.
"I don't trust any man who travels around talking about his pants" - brilliant! 🤣Another amazing deep dive and thank you so much for shining a light on this, Stephanie. You are so right about the YT censoring thing: the real language and full expression of depravities should be not only allowed, but applauded by YT - as this is how we raise awareness and educate regarding red flags, etc. Really appreciate all your hard work, as always! You're a star! 💜🥰
Dropping in to say that the age of consent here in the UK is 16 but that absolutely does NOT mean its accepted for 16 year old to date someone that much older. People would 100% be alarmed if that happened. Also fuck that guy, what a total monster
100,000 British girls have been trafficked by Pakistani gangs
That's the same in Indiana. It may be legal, but it isn't celebrated.
@@flirtylilmustanggirlit doesn't have to be celebrated.... it's legal. So a 45 year old man can grown his stepdaughter and wait until she's 16 and date her with no consequences.
@harleyhendrix8467 but WHY would a normal person want to do that?! A person that is mentally and emotionally mature wouldn't do that. That is the very definition of a predator
@@flirtylilmustanggirl It should be illegal for teenagers to sleep with each other. If a girl gets stabbed to death, the law doesn't say "Well the guy who stabbed her was also 15 so it's okay."
But if a teenager gets her pregnant, gives her STDs, dumps her and breaks her heart, it causes the same damage to her as if an older man did it. It is the same crime, so it should be equally illegal.
My husband and I just had this conversation. I had NO idea what he actually did. He popped up and I’m like “Jared from subway!” My husband goes “no…he’s disgusting” and asked me how I didn’t know what he did. It’s crazy. My friend and her husband had the exact same conversation. Just amazing what the media chooses to show us.
I have serious Mandela Effect about it I remember hearing about it years ago but apparently there was hardly any coverage.
Hearing about this case and how the police reacted to Rochelle bringing them evidence then continued to force her to collect more really reminds me of the Ian Watkins case. The police did a similar thing to a woman named Joanne. She collected a ton of evidence but the police just kept ignoring her for years until they finally arrested him using the evidence she brought them. Then they arrested her for possessing this evidence even though they had it fully on record that she had been trying to get their help from the start and was contacting them the entire way through
That case was the worst thing I've ever heard. I couldn't listen to anything true crime related for months after it. I was so angry, so sad and I couldn't cope for like a week. Things usually don't bother me in that way, I can normally feel, process and step away from it but not that one.
Are you kidding? That is complete negligence and laziness in the side of the police, good god
@@KatieLHall-fy1hw Yeah. When they ignored her originally it was because they decided she was a jilted ex who was making it up and they decided to believe their own excuse over her evidence. The fact that she had been a sex worker previously also came up as part of their reasoning somehow but I can't remember if that was from the beginning or if it came up later. Their reasoning was stupid all the way through, but they stuck to it for years while he continued to commit horrible crimes against children and gather more and more accomplices to hurt even more children
Curious where you’re from ? I’m from the UK and I feel like Ian Watkins and Jimmy Saville are so well known here for their crimes but I wonder if Americans or people outside the UK in general know about it
@@NikkieTwix I'm American. I think Ian Watkins is more well known here than Jimmy Saville is just from the fact I've heard his name come up a few times recently, but I don't think either are common knowledge to people who aren't interested in true crime stuff
Let's NOT shame anyone for not dating until their 20s!! Not all of those that wait are perverts!
Agreed. Lots of reasons people might not date until later.
To me it’s just the flip side of the slut shaming coin of looking down on teen pregnancies.
As someone who didn’t start dating until my 20s…there’s usually something wrong up to that point. You’re dealing with self-esteem issues, mental health, repression, trauma, oppressive beliefs, or all of the above. It’s very hard to have a healthy relationship as an adult when you’re most likely so far behind most other people in that important social aspect.
@@caittails I didn’t date till my 20’s either. I would talk to ppl & dudes (& women cus bi) would talk to me over txt but I was just too shy and far behind in life cause of trauma & drug abuse. I knew I’d pick a person who was probs bad for me 😄. I was used to abuse and chaos. You’re definitely right.
I may b odd, but I def don’t like kids or teens like that though, I completely despise p3dos. I was newly 18 when I was drugged & SA’d, the dude (28) thought I was a teen. It disturbed me sm when I sobered up (& fully realized what happened) how much he seemed to like that idea.
in my case, everyone i've liked didn't like me back, and everyone who liked me i didn't like. i feel like its really not that weird to not date until 20s especially if you have standards
i don't find it weird to not date as a minor.
When you were discussing how celebrated Jared was, there is someone that comes to mind as having been more celebrated. I really suggest (or don't suggest tbh) looking up Jimmy Saville in the UK. He was a children's presenter who raised money for charity, visited sick kids in hospital, etc. Unfortunately his crimes only came to light after he died, but people definitely knew.
Yeah! I definitely had to stop at that point in the video to check if someone had mentioned Saville, cause he was just that influential during his career.
He was another piece of crap. Bigger piece of crap and Jared.
That is who I was thinking of, too!
I literally thought the same thing. It’s so disturbing these worm their ways in to positions of power
I thought the same thing when that was mentioned. Especially since I recently watched the new BBC drama about him and what he did. I hate that he got away with it.
You mention at 12:19 that Jared is the most celebrated public figure doing horrific things. I would greatly appreciate your take on Jimmy Saville. Jared got caught. Jimmy did the same stuff with way more access to children (let to wander children's hospitals for example) for decades and decades, and never got caught. It all came out after his death.
No - Jimmy Saville was a predatory in plain sight for 60+ yrs , Also he liked to get kids in hospitals - that he was raising $ for - It was the perfect cover that is one serious sicko . Also he had the endorsement , friendship of Prince Charles - I am not trying to pile on but it is so creepy . I remember hearing that Diana was completely creeped out by him and did not want him near her . Too bad her radar didn't work for everyone .
Came down to say this. They paved the way for Jimmy Saville
I also thought of Jimmy Savile while she was saying this.
Yeah jim will fix it for sure 😬🤐🤫
The man was a monster 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Just now saw your comment after making a similar one. Thank you. The cover up of his crimes by those at the highest levels of power is truly one of the most disgusting and shameful indictments of all time. How he got away with what he did for so many years is unconscionable.
the fact that i’ve met this man in person (as a child) gives me chills to this day. i remember feeling uncomfortable/unsettled around him, but couldn’t place it. the in depth information from this video disturbs me to no end.
Instinct never lies 😊
That is so creepy.
That photo of Jared hugging the children made me want to cry and made me feel ill. I listen to true crime cases, and some of the worst ones, on a daily basis, but ones like these make my heart hurt.
I always think about when I was 8, I went to another school in my state where he was talking and I shook his hand! A bunch of us 8 year olds just stood in like to shake his hand
I died at you referring to Jared as "reptilian" 😂
You need to have you’re own show like on Hulu, or Peacock…you’re awesome and I could listen to you all day long! I know looking into all these crimes can’t be easy, but we appreciate all you do! 😊💙💚
Naaaaa. She needs to stay independent, if she was on one of those channels she would be curbed in what she could say.
@@WellISaidIt oh I didn’t even think about that!
She has her own show on CZcams. You're watching it right now lol. Shes got a large audience.
Stephanie, you aren't the only one who was creeped out by Jared back then...my younger sibling and I used to make fun of him too. He has always creeped me out, and I was never surprised when this disturbing shit started coming out. I don't care what he's accomplished, once you cross that line you have no respect.
SAME! There was always something about him that deeply unsettled me when I saw those commercials.
Around the time this happened, I took a pt job at Subway. We had a full sized cutout of him that freaked me out, so I decided to rid us of him. Each night when I mopped, I'd leave a puddle of water at his feet. Soon, he could no longer stand and we had to trash him. Satisfying, that!
That’s genius!! And awesome on your part
The subway in my town had a cardboard cutout of Jared been there since the Subway open in 2002 but after what he did in 2015 they threw it away
Ok but this made me laugh so hard! Thanks!
I realize now it was a dangerous mistake to listen to this while driving. I got to the end part with Rochelle's children and lost my shit. I had to pull over. I was so shook I couldn't breathe. It took quite some time for me to recover well enough to continue driving.
That said, Stephanie, your coverage is class A. It's not you, it's him. ❤️
Wow I just watched the documentary on him and I was absolutely sickened- I hope that lady knows she saved so many kids
Where is the documentary?
@@marniekilbourne608 I watched it on discovery plus
can’t judge someone based on their past trauma but you can certainly judge them based on their actions of today
This is sickening. Hearing about the little boy in Thailand broke me. 😢
Holy 💩! I had no idea it was this bad!! My jaw dropped so many times! Thank you for bringing attention to this case. I’m flabbergasted.
It's crazy in hindsight how much of an American cultural phenomenon (for 15 years) this guy was considering how quickly he was scrubbed out of the spotlight and swept under the rug. He was in TWO Sharknado movies!! Subway really succeeded in separating themselves and just regarding his whole gig with them as an oopsie rather than a nearly two-decade long symbiotic relationship.
What the fuck I didn’t even know that and I watched them all as a kid.
Subway is a series of franchises - the franchise owners had no control or input on this joket. They don't deserve to be painted with the same brush.
Celebrated pedophiles is something scary that has gone on throughout history and I’m glad you’re covering some modern iterations- our society is not “fixed” 😪 I’m so glad he was caught
When I tell people I was groomed from the age of 15-17 by a man in my neighborhood I get weird looks because people don't understand how grooming can happen that late in life with someone.
It can't. You should know WAYYY MORE than a person that's 12 or 13 trust me im gen z at 15 I knew what was right what was wrong. I knew to avoid certain people and situations. And I also catfished an 18yo into Giving me n*des at 14. Stop the cap. You were just so 💔💔💔💔💔💔🐶
wtf, that's a minor.
I was groomed by a friend of my dads the lived with us, I was also 14 dating an 18 year old my parents knew and did nothing.
The channel dreading (crime and psychology) did a great and thorough deep dive on the story of Jared; I highly recommend watching it for all the details if you haven't already! I'm excited to hear your take on this as well!
Yea he did a good job💯I'm so excited to hear her take.
That's the only coverage I personally have seen about Jared. Love Dreading and Steph, they are both different and each have their own amazing qualities.
Thank you Steph for the work you put into your channel.
@@jaye12c there’s one on Hulu that was just released if you have it. I believe it’s a couple episodes
Dreading is an amazing channel!
I love how respectful he is when covering cases
Yes I've seen the dr phil episode and the dreading one, but stefanie is the best
My ex-brother-in-law worked for the FBI here in Salt Lake doing the worst job... Cataloging and identifying victims. He was a good cop. He was after the worst of the worst. He's one of my heroes. I feel physically sick right now from listening to this. I want to take a scalding shower, cry, and then hug my children. You're amazing for covering this. It's got to be taxing. Take care of yourself. ❤
I met him when I was 19. My first job was as a manager at Subway and my boss brought me along for a corporate event. Jared was there. I remember telling my parents that I didn't see what all the hype was about. Something about him gave me the creeps, but I couldn't quite say why... until the news broke on what he'd done. It's so silly, I guess, but it still bothers me that I shook that creep's hand and my boss gushed over him like he was a celebrity. 🤢
I feel bad for Rochelle and how this experience hurt her and her relationship with her kids. It seems like she was never herself after this and somehow this huge wedge was put between her and her children. I’m grateful for her sacrifice but I wonder if she regrets it.
Gahhhhhh I can’t
I don’t know, I think there was more there than this investigation.
And if she left her journal where it could be found that was her bad.
I thought something was off about Jared, but I just thought he was some unknown actor with no weight loss. Thanks for giving him history as well as what he did.
It's those pink lips for me.
This was A shock
@@robby7499 omg you're right it was the eyes and the weird pink wet mouth thing... he was gross
This Blew me Away
😅well I guess he was an actor in a way. Yikes
Omg hearing Rochelle’s voice break when he talked about putting a camera in her kids’ rooms is the biggest punch in the gut…I don’t know how she continued that conversation
I'm actually stunned and surprised that so many people didn't know about the Jared Fogle Subway scandal. Like I feel like that was major news when it broke.
I think that most people knew he was charged with possession, but don't know the true gravity of what he did.
I remember it being big news too. The sordid details did come out. I just felt so bad for his wife and kids at the time. How heartbreaking to find that out and have a young daughter that could have been a victim at a later date. I also remember how Subway scrambled around trying to get out from under this sick ordeal.
I agree! I almost didn't watch this but realized Stephanie would give me so much information, and we never hear about the victims or back story. Usually just the charges and amount of their bail got released or talked about, before social media.
And I was correct, she delivered. Like always, I was so mad when it ended and I have to wait for part 2.
Yeah I also remember it being huge too. That’s why I was confused when Steph said the media didn’t report on it a lot and that they downplayed it. That wasn’t what I saw at all.
This was a hard watch. Thank you for covering this monster, we need to know these people exist so we can protect our babies
Thank you for covering this story and topic even tho it makes me sick to my stomach and it’s highly triggering. I’m a survivor from a sick step father. Healed and happy now. But I am deeply concerned for our children in this world. Parents keep being fierce in protecting your children. 🙏❤️✨
I'm so glad you're doing this one. The media did kind of gloss over this.
I was at home and on my way out while listening to this, then got on the bus and holding on to one of the bars. I was gripping it so hard my knuckles almost turned white. I had to take a break several times because I could feel myself start to cry at the horrific things those monsters were doing. Listening to what Rochelle was doing and how much she had to endure. The mention of how Jerald wanted to target her kids…. The step daughters of Russell Taylor and those poor children in Thailand. All of those children that were exposed to him in the schools he visited…this one was really hard to listen to.
Thank you Stephanie for speaking about this. I can’t imagine how difficult it is to research such horrific things. You care so much. You have a big beautiful heart! ❤
“…a veggie delight sandwich….all mushy and stupid.” 😂😂😂
!!! The age of concert is FOURTEEN in my province in Canada. I don’t know what clown made that rule. Sickening.
Is it weird that I'm not always watching while I'm at work. Just listening, and I'm ALWAYS expecting Derek to pipe in with his opinions. I love the banter you two have. I could listen all day.
I agree 💯! I absolutely love these 2 & their Crime Everything!!
This is ENRAGING!!! ROCHELLE IS A BADASS! I can't imagine how hard this was for her!!! I have so much respect for her!
Right up there with 'Jake from State Farm'. Man that's got to be one of the best phrases I've heard in a long time. Also, Jared always gave me willies too, the creeps.
I watched the interview with the undercover “friend” and the phone calls were horrific. I don’t know how that woman kept her cool hearing some of the stuff he was saying, it had to be awful for her.
Your little breaks of humor are always appreciated during heavy material.
We need to speak more on these things. I think I’m going to speak to more of my family about what one of them did to me. So many times I was dismissed and it was brushed off but it needs to be said and if even one person can get away from that horrible person it would be worth it
I’m glad you’re wanting to stand up for yourself & call out your abuser. I don’t know what exactly happened & it doesn’t matter, I’m sorry you had to go through it. Proud of you ❤
There are people who will believe you and stand by you even if your family is in denial. Be brave and be strong! You are important and loved. I'm also proud of you!
make an emotional plan for yrself for how yr going to take care of yrself if someone doesn't react well. for each person you tell, i would be ready for that possibility however slight. it's extremely hard for ppl to believe that stuff about their own family apparently (although if you don't believe the accuser who is also in yr family, yr still believing a family member, them, is a criminal? weird)
One thing you said really stuck with me, Stephanie. You said he always gave a weird vibe. We all need to remember to listen to those little voices in our heads that say something is wrong. I was on the Today Show in 2006 with Matt Lauer and I got the creepiest vibes from him. I told everyone that he seemed like a creeper. 10 years (ish) later all the stuff came out about him being exactly that….a creeper. Those vibes we get are important to listen to.
Yesssss 🙌 baby is down for a nap and now mama has something to watch. Stephanie always coming in ✨clutch✨
Samesies!❤
He lived a pretty privileged life if you ask me. I went to college and could not afford to eat at subway or any other place three meals a day, or even one meal a day. I suspect his parents paid for everything. Dude did not even work until he got the subway gig. I agree that smile on his faced was always a bit creepy. I do like subway, but stopped going after this scandal first broke. Yes, the details were very much suppressed. Thanks for bringing a brighter light on this taboo topic.
Ikr who vsn afford to not only eat out everyday but for all 3 meals ?
If it cost 5.00 per meal that's 15.00 a day 105 a week 😳
I had no idea the depths of his depravity and the people around him who facilitated it! You did a great job telling this story so far! Can’t wait for part 2
Girl. I did not need the visual of being underneath that P. O. S! You had me laughing so hard. Thanks for that, I needed the comic break.
It is so sad that when this happened it was made out to be a non-story. Thank you for highlighting something that should have always been in the spotlight!
I don’t know how she was able to keep it together when he asked about her kids. I teared up listening to it.
He always creeped me out too with his smiling but not smiling with the eyes... that got me. Stephanie, there's nothing wrong with being as empathetic as you are, I think it's a good trait, but I can also see where it is overwhelming. I'm especially that way, since I don't have children, about animals. I totally take it personally. And I get VERY, very angry.
My heart absolutely breaks for the children in Thailand 😢
It’s so true. My husband was a parole officer of sex offenders for years and when I got pregnant with our daughter he had to request a new position. It’s so common for sex offender officers to need counseling and so many of them can’t stay in that department for an extended period of time. UNDERSTANDABLE! It takes a huge mental toll on them especially when they have their own children. And it really fills them with rage. It’s such a difficult high stress job. I tell my husband all the time idk how he did it cause I’d be lunging over a desk to get my hands on these dirt bags!
My soul would break if i did that job. I pray for your husband to be able to find peace of mind.
The way I would be in prison right now if I knew someone was a sex offender - some things are just unforgivable. I don't know how police officers or therapists or lawyers who hear the stuff these people do can stay sane. I hope he got that transfer and is in a less rage inducing position now.
@@jamietingey7498 thank you! Always appreciated!
@@bonnylouwho76 yeah it’s so real! Idk if every state does this but my husband and his coworkers have access to counseling any time. And it’s like a known thing that they have a high divorce rate. My husband was telling me because they are so used to being lied to every day from their caseload that some of them sorta “bring it home” and like start thinking everyone’s lying to them all the time including their spouses. It’s very interesting but I’m glad it’s recognized and counseling is provided on demand. And I’m glad it’s talked about in seminars and stuff so they are aware what to pay attention to and look out for.
@@clairec6618 SAME! My husband is actually the most patient person you could ever meet in your life actually and I’m convinced that’s why he’s great at his job. 😂 He’s so patient that sometimes it pisses me off that he doesn’t react to certain things lmaooooo but I tell him all the time that it takes a special kind of person to do that job and I am DEFINITELY NOT ONE OF THEM! The crazy thing is, depending on where you live you most likely know a sex offender in real life, or have at least met one. It’s insane. Even just Megan’s law alone which is the offenses of minors, you can pull up the map to see where they live in your area and the maps are covered in red dots. It’s awful and scary. After my husband working that unit, you learn way too much! And it has made me paranoid. And he agrees with me. We don’t trust hardly anyone alone with our kid. Even when she’s older she will not be doing sleepovers 😂🙅🏻♀️ I would end up in prison if I found out someone hurt my baby 😅🤣🤷🏻♀️
I definitely remember the coverage of The Jared Fogel story. I was glued to the tv. It was sheer insanity that not only he, but other people in the company were involved in this. It was a huge scandal and one that highlighted more creeps being funded by corporations.
Yeah there was actually a lot of coverage of this story
I remember when the story broke but no follow up. Definitely tuning in now!
@@aro5490 thank you! I keep seeing people saying there wasn’t but I remember that there was. I even remember hearing about the mom that went undercover at the softball game after hearing him making unsavory comments about the kids. Then she started calling him and recording the calls and texting with him so she would have a paper trail. I remember all that info being discussed on the news.
@@uubish yes I agree. It was a big media story. Sometimes we are distracted by our lives and aren’t aware of things, but that doesn’t necessarily equate to lack of coverage.
"Clearly his brain turned into a veggie delight sandwich. All mushy and stupid." 😂
I'm happy you're covering this bc oddly enough i started noticing more about him in the last month! Ugh he's so disgusting.
Why is he coming up again? His time isn't up is it? I haven't been following
@@gabriellegarner8268 ID just released a new docuseries about his crimes.
@@cassie1264 I saw that, I just watched it because I couldn't wait for part 2 of Stephanie's but I will still watch it 😅
When you were speaking of agents having a hard time because they have to comb through hrs of CSAM to catch the predators. It reminded me of the josh Duggar court case where the agent testiffied that the creep josh was viewing the most horrific content that the agent had ever seen in many yrs on the force...like that was his job to comb through digital evidence like that and he made a point to tell us how disgusting it was in trial 😮 it just popped me back into watching coverage of that trial.
I would've lost my mind when he brought up her kids! Probably long before that but I couldn't breathe after that 😡🤬🤬🤬😤
Absolutely a!
you do not disappoint!!! I knew by that short video where you were venting about Jared it was going to be a good one!!! "F*** around and find out.” I was dying.
When he asked her which kid, I almost threw up. I have two children that are Irish twins and boy and girl it hit me like a ton of bricks and I can’t finish the video. I don’t know how you do it, your definitely an extremely strong woman! Thank you for everything you stand for and all the help for the families!
I hear you, Sara. When he asked her which kid, it was so totally Sophie’s Choice! It makes me physically ill as well.
just watched this part too and had to pause and take a minute… absolutely disgusting excuse for a human he is
He sounds like the American version of Jimmy Saville from the UK. His behaviour was ignored for years by the big TV companies and even politicians because he raised a lot of money for chariries. He even got a knighthood for his contribution to good causes from the Queen and became 'Sir Jimmy Saville'. None of his pedophilia was even acknowledged until after he died. He was never punished for anything he did to those kids and he had access to thousands.
Also Rolf Harris is a similar case.
Love your videos and the passion you bring to them. Keep doing what your doing. I have spent literally hours listening to you and never get tired of it xx
Jared is DISGUSTING!!! The thought of him being out of prison one day is horrifying. Same goes for Russel Taylor and Angela. I feel terrible for her daughters. I hope that they ended up with people who truly love them and support them. I wish them (and any other child affected by the actions of these monsters) well.
Your videos are straight up documentaries at this point. You don’t even know how excited I get when I see you put something new out!!! I just adore you so much!!❤
Jimmy Saville in the UK was fated by everyone until his death then all the horrible things he had done for decades came out.
This gave me jimmy Saville vibes too. It’s shocking how they can get away with it for so long.
She is really entertaining, articulate & so informed & dedicated to these cases. Her voice is incredibly soothing. There is literally not one out there in the true crime world producing the quality work that she is. I stand behind her! Way to go, Stephanie! You rock girl! ❤
I remember being in high school when this happened. I was at my best friends house and we were not surprised. He genuinely gives off the creepiest vibes through even a Tv screen. Every time we’d see a subway commercial with him in it we’d just try to guess what his secret deal was. I’m not sure if I just didn’t follow the media or if they genuinely didn’t cover his case. I just remember he got arrested and subway never mentioned him again.