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  • My tier list for a buncha sci-fi universes. What do you want from me? It's a list. its got universes. ENJOY!
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  • @DanielGreeneReviews
    @DanielGreeneReviews  Před 3 lety +273

    Opinion: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

    • @Nasser851000
      @Nasser851000 Před 3 lety +8

      You don't say....

    • @Anthony_Cika
      @Anthony_Cika Před 3 lety +7

      I'm offended that you attempted to preempt my seething raeg!!1!

    • @nickd5158
      @nickd5158 Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man

    • @elsecallermuu8552
      @elsecallermuu8552 Před 3 lety +1

      Outrageous! How dare you use logic against me like that... (this is a joke btw love you Daniel)

    • @berniethelad6402
      @berniethelad6402 Před 3 lety +1

      Just read the Ender series, first book is phonemenal

  • @TheYannir
    @TheYannir Před 3 lety +325

    I would've liked to see Mass Effect and Stargate in here. And yes, Blade Runner.

    • @hoboelf6938
      @hoboelf6938 Před 3 lety +12

      This, and also Hyperion.

    • @Yaxoi
      @Yaxoi Před 3 lety +26

      Yea the Mass Effect univers is great

    • @thatN7guy982
      @thatN7guy982 Před 3 lety +12

      Mass effect is in my top 5 universes

    • @David_randomnumber
      @David_randomnumber Před 3 lety +6

      Babylon 5, maybe ?

    • @ejensen
      @ejensen Před 3 lety +7

      Technically Weyland-Yutani exists in both Alien and Blade Runner, so they could be considered the same universe. And he covered Alien.

  • @bgcvetan
    @bgcvetan Před 3 lety +173

    Of Corse the Expanse is S-tier, anything less is tourch and pitchfork.

    • @freddymeisner
      @freddymeisner Před 3 lety +8

      As a BRAND NEW fan of the expanse and also this channel, this rules

    • @tylerasire244
      @tylerasire244 Před 3 lety +2

      Should be a torch and pitchfork for your spelling bud.

    • @fardareismai4495
      @fardareismai4495 Před 3 lety +3

      @Jack Storm the human side is what fascinates me. The tensions between inners and belters etc.

  • @thehoodednerd6930
    @thehoodednerd6930 Před 3 lety +705

    Daniel: *puts Star Wars in D*
    Me: *"YOU DARE?!"*
    Daniel: "Since Disney bought it."
    Me: "Oh okay, fair enough, have a good day."

    • @siddharthbirdi
      @siddharthbirdi Před 3 lety +56

      Understandable, Have a nice day.

    • @LightningRaven42
      @LightningRaven42 Před 3 lety +16

      Wasn't the Disney part about how they could've expanded it? One thing was Disney fucking up their expansion of the universe and missing their opportunity. Another very different is the complete mess that the Star Wars universe has ever been.

    • @zonastarwars4397
      @zonastarwars4397 Před 3 lety +15

      @@LightningRaven42 Yes, it always had retcons and things that didn't make sense but eraising the expanded universe didn't help.

    • @thehoodednerd6930
      @thehoodednerd6930 Před 3 lety +21

      @@LightningRaven42 by erasing the expanded universe(which answered a lot of questions), they leave open very large holes, which they had the opportunity to fix or do something with, and they don't

    • @LightningRaven42
      @LightningRaven42 Před 3 lety +9

      @@zonastarwars4397 Yeah. My friend is a HUGE fan and said that after she read the expanded universe, she was much more interested in them than the movies themselves.

  • @kiernanknox2314
    @kiernanknox2314 Před 3 lety +99

    but, what firefly did do in only 14 episodes was so good. The universe felt rich and the characters were so well written

    • @LightningRaven42
      @LightningRaven42 Před 3 lety +21

      Or as I like to put it often: Firefly was the grimy western scifi that Star Wars tried to be.

    • @oldbrowncoat2
      @oldbrowncoat2 Před 3 lety

      This

    • @MagusMarquillin
      @MagusMarquillin Před 3 lety +15

      Yeah, they may not have told the full season 1 story they planned on, but 14 episodes and the movie (and the comics if you want, not sure about canon status) there's certainly a _verse_ been a realized. It's awful lonely in the black. Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. I aim to misbehave. You can't stop the signal.

    • @ssusanchef1047
      @ssusanchef1047 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MagusMarquillin Preach it! You so shiny.

    • @MagusMarquillin
      @MagusMarquillin Před 3 lety +2

      @@ssusanchef1047 I love my Captain.

  • @ilayws4448
    @ilayws4448 Před 3 lety +242

    *ALL CAPS RAGE IN THE COMMENTS*

  • @samanthaa.6055
    @samanthaa.6055 Před 3 lety +87

    *The Terminator Universe should be called the Wheel of Time.*

  • @JCbeMe
    @JCbeMe Před 3 lety +80

    For the love of all that is nonsensical and absurd in this universe, my heart aches that you skipped Hitchhikers Guide

    • @EB-bl6cc
      @EB-bl6cc Před 3 lety +3

      he mentioned a handful of the 23984734 verses he could have, this video would be 8+ hours long if he tried to rank every semi-major sci fi novel or movie

    • @JCbeMe
      @JCbeMe Před 3 lety +5

      @@EB-bl6cc oh for sure, Im not angry. I just adore Hitchhikers and would love to know where such an absurdist universe would rank on his list.

    • @CorwinFound
      @CorwinFound Před 2 lety

      Two lists would have been better. TV/movie and literature original source.

  • @edwardnewell5644
    @edwardnewell5644 Před 3 lety +123

    Have you watched The Clone Wars cartoon? It's still canon for Star Wars and the only reason I'd still consider ranking new Star Wars canon somewhat high. (Though I agree that the new Disney movies make a mess of worldbuilding)

    • @DanielGreeneReviews
      @DanielGreeneReviews  Před 3 lety +47

      Yup. It’s extremely overhyped while still being decent.

    • @EcopiuM
      @EcopiuM Před 3 lety +6

      Disney didn't "make a mess" from a world building perspective. He just said they didn't do anything EXTRA to expand the universe which is correct. You could potentially argue they made a mess of the story telling tho.

    • @geraltofbolivia9428
      @geraltofbolivia9428 Před 3 lety +22

      Daniel Greene excuse me ma’am? Science has declared you’re opinion is wrong here. This is the only cartoon that has ever made me cry.

    • @andrewreising4541
      @andrewreising4541 Před 3 lety +37

      @@DanielGreeneReviews The Clone Wars season one is terrible, but the quality of the show improves with each successive season.
      Given the fact that this tier list is about universe building, though, I think it is important to note that The Clone Wars and Rebels both did so much more worldbuilding for that universe than the movies ever did. Whether that's because Star Wars as a concept actually works better as a show than it does as a movie, or because Dave Filoni is the best world builder to ever helm a Star Wars project, I'm not sure. Probably a combination.

    • @sorayacatfriend
      @sorayacatfriend Před 3 lety

      @@DanielGreeneReviews YES.

  • @SirDorgarr
    @SirDorgarr Před 3 lety +41

    Daniel: *sings the star wars theme using star trek as the lyrics*
    Wait... That's Illegal

  • @26robertpiggott
    @26robertpiggott Před 3 lety +58

    I feel like we need Hyperion on here, it has such a great vibe and is a classic and that world building!

    • @micahlbrown
      @micahlbrown Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah I was disappointed that Hyperion wasn't in the ranking. S tier for me.

    • @EHngelic
      @EHngelic Před 3 lety +1

      This one has been on my mind lately. It's time for a re-read

    • @arte0021
      @arte0021 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes , Hyperion is great. Too bad it was ruined by the awful Endymion sequels

    • @maradjade1848
      @maradjade1848 Před 2 lety

      Dang well guess I don't need to finish the list

    • @jmachero5852
      @jmachero5852 Před 2 lety

      Well, might as well read that over Dune. Since the Dune series ended on a cliffhanger after the Author died.

  • @the0siren0of0night
    @the0siren0of0night Před 3 lety +203

    There's a couple of things you missed... Stargate and Farscape...they are in my top 5...

    • @wildfire160
      @wildfire160 Před 3 lety +38

      He did worse than that he didn't mention Babylon 5

    • @ercrad3426
      @ercrad3426 Před 3 lety +27

      Wow no stargate? This list is bogus. Stargate is easily top 5 ever

    • @nickd5158
      @nickd5158 Před 3 lety +24

      Warhammer 40k was my biggest miss. But yeah. Babylon 5. And you can easily rate Firefly. That was a nicely fleshed out Verse.

    • @Omegaroth666
      @Omegaroth666 Před 3 lety +7

      Also Ender's Game?

    • @laconsuela69
      @laconsuela69 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Omegaroth666 yeah seriously! Enders game is some of the best sci-fi out there, along with the other books in the series

  • @reidblanchard6453
    @reidblanchard6453 Před 3 lety +36

    I love these intros, they’re the best

  • @taufanaugusta8884
    @taufanaugusta8884 Před 3 lety +38

    I'll leave a hidden gem here:
    Legend of Galactic Heroes by Yoshiki Tanaka.
    A grand space opera, some even say it's like ASOIAF. It got adapted to anime for 110 OVA from 1988-1997 and got remake in 2018-ongoing (still only 24 eps tho).
    I'll put that in S rank just for how deep the politic is.

    • @MrShaiya96
      @MrShaiya96 Před 3 lety +2

      check out the book series if you
      get the chance, by yoshiki.

  • @MPScrimshaw
    @MPScrimshaw Před 3 lety +21

    "because of the sequels, Matrix just has a lot of problems...." (moves Alien to A-tier) lol

  • @kerneywilliams632
    @kerneywilliams632 Před 3 lety +66

    Babylon 5 is my nomination for best left out verse.
    I also think it's a good balance between the (relatively) boundless optimism of Trek which I find kinda annoying/clawing and the slightly grimmer BSG verse.
    I left this video disturbed that I find the Trek verse too saccharine and think of BSG as closest in spirit to were we're headed in spirit.
    Suggestion:
    Philosophical musings tier list.

    • @dominicpinchott7432
      @dominicpinchott7432 Před 3 lety +5

      It's amazing how rewatching B5 in the early 2000's felt like it was so fresh and current. Rewatching it now, it feels the same way. At least from the overall philosophy. Clearly the effects and episode structure have aged very poorly.
      I'd say The Expanse is the only SciFi property to come close to the same high water mark since Babylon 5. Hopefully it's not another 25+ years before we get another great universe.
      Edit: First sentence erroneously said BSG instead of B5. Typing on. Phone is rough.

    • @Kay-th2cx
      @Kay-th2cx Před 3 lety +4

      Totally agree. Loved B5 and when I started watching The Expanse, it gave me such a similar feeling I went and rewatched B5. They're both great shows.

    • @beckyh8645
      @beckyh8645 Před 3 lety +4

      I second the B5 comment/replies here 100000%

    • @kerneywilliams632
      @kerneywilliams632 Před 3 lety +2

      @Robertson Thirdly She is also the right hand of vengence and death incarnate.

    • @scottferris2686
      @scottferris2686 Před 3 lety +2

      Can’t even finish watching after reading this post and finding out B5 is left out.

  • @killer92173
    @killer92173 Před 3 lety +31

    "I'm gonna put Star Wars in D since Disney bought it."
    Are you trying to start a war???

  • @TheFlamelancer
    @TheFlamelancer Před 3 lety +91

    New Daniel Greene Video: YAY!!!
    It's Sci Fi: ...BETRAYAL!!!!!
    ...
    But seriously, as always nice video.
    Why no Mass effect tho?

  • @TheMalcolmElliot
    @TheMalcolmElliot Před 3 lety +4

    Dude, your videos are not only well informed and interesting, but also wholeheartedly entertaining. Keep it up brother!

  • @zacharywhitaker3955
    @zacharywhitaker3955 Před 3 lety +19

    I would be interested in hearing where you would have placed the Enderverse in this tiered list.

  • @davidwilson6577
    @davidwilson6577 Před 3 lety +32

    Does not include The Culture, so the scale is broken. Read the Culture novels Daniel.
    Oh and Hitchhiker's Guide. I mean, come on.

    • @queen_zoestra
      @queen_zoestra Před 3 lety +6

      READ THE FUCKING CULTURE NOVELS DANIEL

    • @MioMyDog
      @MioMyDog Před 3 lety +2

      Petition for Daniel to read the Culture novels!

    • @ericmerrell8622
      @ericmerrell8622 Před 3 lety +1

      If you go off the movie Hitchhiker's Guide is D. Books are easily A

    • @davidwilson6577
      @davidwilson6577 Před 3 lety

      @@ericmerrell8622 I was talking about the books, yes, however if you haven't either heard the radio play or watched the british series based on it you have to. The original bbc series is one of the absolute best bits of sci fi on film ever.

    • @ericmerrell8622
      @ericmerrell8622 Před 3 lety

      I HAVE heard the radio shows, however it was long enough ago that I didn't feel comfortable ranking them

  • @gilliganIII
    @gilliganIII Před 3 lety +35

    Isn't Hitchiker's Guide SCIFI?

    • @james35813
      @james35813 Před 3 lety +4

      S-Tier SciFi

    • @psikeyhackr6914
      @psikeyhackr6914 Před 3 lety +1

      Skiffy, not science fiction.

    • @gilliganIII
      @gilliganIII Před 3 lety

      @@psikeyhackr6914 What does Skiffy mean?

    • @psikeyhackr6914
      @psikeyhackr6914 Před 3 lety +1

      @@gilliganIII It is one pronunciation of scifi implying it is something other than an abbreviation of science fiction and does not really qualify.
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiffy

  • @GoofyGE3K
    @GoofyGE3K Před 3 lety +27

    No stargate? No farscape? For shame

  • @thetalantonx
    @thetalantonx Před 3 lety +9

    The Blade Runner and Alien universes are connected, they reference each other - admittedly as Easter eggs rather than core or secondary plot points, so I'm not really pushing that point too hard.
    I really do enjoy your tier list videos because they both give me a to watch/read/play list but ideas for my own projects.

    • @nashledy8878
      @nashledy8878 Před rokem

      Can you add some references, as a fan of both universes it would be interesting to see them connected

  • @vinseiya02
    @vinseiya02 Před 3 lety +24

    Is it bad that I wanted Ben 10 on here😭😭

    • @JoelFeila
      @JoelFeila Před 3 lety +2

      no it is good, just to much UST between cousins

  • @archlectoryarvi2873
    @archlectoryarvi2873 Před 3 lety +9

    The Vorkosigan Saga blows most of these outta the water. Most realistic planetary governments and political intrigue ever

  • @nikolayvladimirov8633
    @nikolayvladimirov8633 Před 3 lety +87

    Warhammer 40 000 is honestly s tier by sheer scale and awesomeness.

    • @daryanguy
      @daryanguy Před 3 lety +9

      Based on what he said he was looking for I could see him putting it D teir. That or because it goes against everything he says but does it well it hits S teir

    • @MrSmithers
      @MrSmithers Před 3 lety +2

      Sheer

    • @cosmere-gx4ud
      @cosmere-gx4ud Před 3 lety +5

      Warhammer is just dune and starship troopers

    • @daryanguy
      @daryanguy Před 3 lety +9

      @@cosmere-gx4ud but about x1,000 more batshit insane

    • @cosmere-gx4ud
      @cosmere-gx4ud Před 3 lety

      @@daryanguy I dont man first chapter is just him waking up and being told he's a product of eugenics in dune. 40k is just alot more loud and gorey then the others

  • @davidlewis4091
    @davidlewis4091 Před 3 lety +13

    You could say I’m a bit new to the sci-fi genre, so I haven’t seen most of these. My favorite sci-fi universe is probably from the anime Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Really cool n-depth with its history, big events have big consequences, just cool in general.

    • @FlyingFocs
      @FlyingFocs Před 3 lety

      *Happy gasp* I found my people.
      Seriously though, that show is a solid A tier, and way too obscure for just how good it is.

    • @MrShaiya96
      @MrShaiya96 Před 3 lety

      @a b EXACTLY. YOU GUYS ROCK. galactic heroes and babylon 5 are next level.

    • @MrShaiya96
      @MrShaiya96 Před 3 lety

      @a b check out the books by the original author if you can

    • @squidsinspace75
      @squidsinspace75 Před 3 lety

      Star Wars-like conflict scale and magnitude, space battles which coud rivales Battlestar Galactica, and good dose of political machinations and backstabbing? Greate mixture. I love it.

  • @fewestchicken5353
    @fewestchicken5353 Před 3 lety +7

    Warhammer 40k? Um.... and SCP

  • @DragonArmyBooks
    @DragonArmyBooks Před 3 lety +5

    The energy lately has been on point, Daniel. I'm not sure what point. But it's definitely been there. 😆

  • @KFoxtheGreat
    @KFoxtheGreat Před 3 lety +2

    I'm so glad someone so big on booktube has such respect for Foundation and Dune. Classic sci-fi literature has a special place in my heart and I love seeing it get love :)

  • @Hession0Drasha
    @Hession0Drasha Před 3 lety +6

    Mass effect, or alien friendship simulator is a great setting. It's like the wheel of time, if the main character wasn't prophecised, just really focused. With a lot of firefly thrown in for the crew specifically. Firefly in the Normandy. Wheel of time political squabling in the galaxy, but with capatalism and corporations thrown in.

  • @sullir9397
    @sullir9397 Před 3 lety +5

    In Starwars defense, Clone Wars and Rebels, which are canon, are pretty damn good.

  • @oldbrowncoat2
    @oldbrowncoat2 Před 3 lety +8

    The Firefly comics need to be added to your TBR

  • @fullyimmersed8578
    @fullyimmersed8578 Před 3 lety +2

    I’m actually far more interested by what you left out, than where you ranked what you included! Overall I agree with your list (for the most part) but I would love to have seen Stargate, The Hyperion Cantos, The Hitchhikers Guide, Old Man’s War, Mass Effect, and probably a dozen more acclaimed universes.

  • @robjohnson9568
    @robjohnson9568 Před 3 lety +1

    So glad you included Known Space and ranked it so high. Notice that many of the most interesting things in the Expanse derive directly from Niven.

  • @Severian1
    @Severian1 Před 3 lety +7

    Man, if the Star Wars EU was still cannon, it'd shatter the ceiling of this tier list. Why oh why did Disney do that?!

    • @ThanatoselNyx
      @ThanatoselNyx Před 3 lety +2

      90% of EU was rubbish. People fondly remember the 10% too much.

    • @the5thdoctor
      @the5thdoctor Před 3 lety +1

      @@ThanatoselNyx haven't seen a 90% the eu was crap comment in years. You probably haven't even read 90%. From a huge fan of the old canon and someone who stopped with star wars in 2014. With how bad the new canon and movies have been received getting rid of the eu was a mistake.

    • @georgevelis4651
      @georgevelis4651 Před 3 lety

      To have the opportunity to tell their own stories without having to be limited by what others made

    • @Boomerrage32
      @Boomerrage32 Před 2 lety

      @@the5thdoctor Read some EU stuff way back when and surfed around on the wiki quite a lot and I gotta say I'm not at all impressed. However, if they're gonna _uncanonize_ all the old EU stuff and replace it with the steaming pile of garbage that is Disney canon then what the hell was the damn point to begin with?
      Might as well just have kept the old stuff that many people loved. It wasn't for me, but I could easily ignore it, and the Disney stuff is DEFINITELY not for me either.

  • @CandleLight129
    @CandleLight129 Před 3 lety +22

    I'm kinda surprised you included Star Wars on this list. I figured you'd point out the fact that it's *not* science fiction, it's science fantasy.

    • @MartialArtsTechniquesideas
      @MartialArtsTechniquesideas Před 3 lety

      Yeah, weird space Opera

    • @AikenFrost
      @AikenFrost Před 3 lety +2

      And I would seriously question the "science" part of "science fantasy". It is straight fantasy in which people use space ships, for some reason or other.

    • @Draber2b
      @Draber2b Před 3 lety

      Science fantasy is simply a combination of sci-fi and fantasy. Technically it can be on both lists. Or it could possibly have it's own list.
      It would definitely be interesting to see Star Wars compared to other sci-fantasy shows like Warhammer40k, Lord of the Light, some of P. Hamilton's and A. Norton's works or Dune.
      ^Dune actually is often considered a science fantasy (although of course way more science-heavy than SW).
      If Daniel created a list for science fantasy Star Wars would still struggle. The worldbuilding of masterpieces in this genre is very impressive and usually consistent.

    • @CandleLight129
      @CandleLight129 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Draber2b Fair point, though as Dune leans into the science, I would say Star Wars leans into the fantasy. I also agree that it would still struggle in any kind of world building list, especially after Disney lopped off the vast majority of it's depth and replaced it with... well to put it nicely, a tangled, shallow, mess full of holes and unanswered questions.
      I do love the idea of giving Daniel *any* excuse to dive into the wonderful insanity that is the 40k universe though!

    • @mr_indie_fan
      @mr_indie_fan Před 2 lety +1

      Science fantasy?

  • @kevinweaver6930
    @kevinweaver6930 Před 3 lety +11

    Missing are two of my favorite. Babylon 5 and Farscape. Must watches of anyone but sacrilege for a SciFi fan....

    • @kevinweaver6930
      @kevinweaver6930 Před 3 lety +3

      And just remembered one more StarGate... one ok movie and some good TV shows... One of the most underrated shows ever Stargate Universe. Starts off super slow but is worth the time.

  • @slotanchivay4810
    @slotanchivay4810 Před 3 lety +8

    Oh, hello time for my daily dose of serotonin.

  • @farbodbadihi5332
    @farbodbadihi5332 Před 3 lety +15

    Is Peter F Hamilton really that unknown that he never gets mentioned in these types of videos ?

    • @benwhiley9680
      @benwhiley9680 Před 3 lety +5

      Right? Since Banks died, Hamilton is the uncontested best space opera writer yet, I never see mention of him on booktube.

    • @someoneelse3084
      @someoneelse3084 Před 3 lety +1

      It's a crying shame

    • @BobCanRead
      @BobCanRead Před 3 lety +5

      @@benwhiley9680 I'd throw Alastair Reynolds in the running as well; but yeah, Banks was the GOAT, and PFH is the only one who comes even remotely close to being as epic.

    • @benwhiley9680
      @benwhiley9680 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BobCanRead Absolutely, you're right; frankly, I'm embarrassed that I forgot about him!

    • @steveroderick338
      @steveroderick338 Před 3 lety +2

      Hamilton and Banks. It makes me sad

  • @matthewletexier
    @matthewletexier Před 3 lety +7

    Definitely recommend getting back into Doctor Who. Peter Capaldi (after Matt Smith) is my favorite doctor and it has some amazing seasons

    • @Emma-sj6wp
      @Emma-sj6wp Před 3 lety

      If you haven't at least tried to watch the old ones I highly recommend.
      It is a ✨trip✨.
      Be warned tho, Susan screamed and unorthodox amount and even though I love her, it makes her extremely punchable.

  • @calebdrew5684
    @calebdrew5684 Před 3 lety

    Instant LIKE for tearing out your headrest. Boom. You did that.

  • @maynardz03
    @maynardz03 Před 2 lety

    the first 3 seconds of the video is actually live footage of what I do in my room when I think im home alone

  • @MioMyDog
    @MioMyDog Před 3 lety +3

    I really hoped you will talk about Ian M. Banks Culture universe. It's one of the best in my opinion and one of the very rare instances where a sci-fi world comes close to being an utopia for me.

  • @andrewstoute1421
    @andrewstoute1421 Před 3 lety +5

    Nice vid, will have to check out Bobverse but sci fi universes without Ian M. Banks Culture series? Farscape? Alastair Reynolds - Revelation space?

  • @TheLucasdms
    @TheLucasdms Před 3 lety

    I'm 40 seconds in and there is such a chaotic energy on this video.

  • @demonslayer6648
    @demonslayer6648 Před 3 lety

    Finally Daniel does another sci-fi video!!! The best genre!!!

  • @anwenm
    @anwenm Před 3 lety +15

    Man Daniel is in a weird mood today...

  • @ReadTheMango
    @ReadTheMango Před 3 lety +5

    Daniel, have you read Red Dwarf or Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I gotta know.

  • @Enigmaessence
    @Enigmaessence Před 3 lety

    The intro had a sort of violent manic energy, and I am here for it.

  • @kirkreitmeier3557
    @kirkreitmeier3557 Před 3 lety +1

    One of my favourite recent Sci-fi series is John Scalzi’s Old man’s War series. It’s a great estimation of a corporate future and it’s place in the universe.

  • @falconnnn5
    @falconnnn5 Před 3 lety +4

    *Sees Star Wars in D tier*
    Me: Bu - but - how??
    *Starts bawling*

  • @KainusGulch
    @KainusGulch Před 3 lety +8

    I feel like he missed so many universes in sci fi he should almost do a second tier list to catch all the ones he missed....

  • @TheAlliedFox
    @TheAlliedFox Před 3 lety +1

    I love your videos, and this scifi tier list needs an update! Please include Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy/Universe (most importantly), Hyperion Cantos, Mass Effect, Fallout, Hitchhiker's Guide, Cixin Liu, Margaret Atwood's Maddaddam (Oryx and Crake was phenomenal), Star Wars Expanded Universe (some credit has to be given to Darth Plagueis) and of course, Orson Scott Card's Ender series. That would be a very satisfying video.

  • @LiteratureScienceAlliance

    I grew up watching Star Trek and this year decided to rewatch next generation and its been amazing!

  • @nivekleveb8872
    @nivekleveb8872 Před 3 lety +3

    Kudos to you for putting Foundation in the S tier. You get it.

  • @JoaoMendes-sd4ur
    @JoaoMendes-sd4ur Před 3 lety +3

    Why must you break my heart Daniel? Why? Now excuse while i go drown my sorrows about Firefly for the 100th time

  • @stpnwlf9
    @stpnwlf9 Před 3 lety

    Just an anecdote on Frank Herbert as a world builder: In 1985, Harlan Ellison taught a writing class in which he challenged a group of scientists and authors to create a fictional world and then assigned his students to write stories in that world. It began with a panel discussion with science fiction writers and actual scientists. And as the discussion unfolded, Frank Herbert absolutely took over and created a mind-blowing planet that was believable yet challenged the students. His ability to blend ecology, topography, geology, and astrophysics in a universe is just incredible! All of this, including the panel discussion that kicked it off and the best stories in the class are in a book called Medea: Harlan's World.

  • @joshuakusuma5953
    @joshuakusuma5953 Před 3 lety +1

    One universe I love but don't think get enough love is Revelation Space. Vivid descriptions, great worldbuilding, fantastic internal consistency and is one of the few sci-fi universes that doesn't have FTL to travel around.

  • @phen0menos
    @phen0menos Před 3 lety +3

    Daniel, have you ever considered reading the Culture series by Iain M Banks? That universe would certainly belong in my S Tier! Each novel is a standalone so don't feel intimidated by the length of the series - it's very easy to dip in and out of because you don't have to remember any plot or character details between books.

  • @brandonbiondo9208
    @brandonbiondo9208 Před 3 lety +19

    0:44 Alien (B) (reranked A)
    1:38 Halo (A)
    2:56 Bladerunner (A)
    3:08 Battlestar Galactica (C) (reranked B)
    4:25 The Expanse (S)
    5:13 The Foundation Universe (S)
    5:55 Star Wars (C-) (reranked D)
    7:52 Dr Who (A)
    8:45 Dune (S)
    9:36 The Matrix (B) (reranked C)
    10:34 Firefly (unranked)
    10:50 Mad Max (C) (reranked B)
    11:25 Known Space a.k.a. Ringworld (A) (reranked S)
    11:55 Star Trek (S)
    12:37 Terminator (D-)
    13:23 Planet of the Apes (C)
    13:55 Bobverse (B)

  • @jamesmitchell2114
    @jamesmitchell2114 Před 3 lety

    Great as usual.

  • @jertlemiah
    @jertlemiah Před 3 lety +1

    Sad Firefly noises. Probably gonna go binge it all again for like the fifth time

  • @Macapta
    @Macapta Před 3 lety +6

    I’ve been wanting to read Dune for ages now but I’ve still got to get through 10 Wheel Of Time books, 3 Song of Ice and Fire books, plus by then the next Stormlight book will be out so I’ll read that. And unfortunately the movie might come out which I’ll want to see and that would just spoil the book.

  • @alesdrobek2512
    @alesdrobek2512 Před 3 lety +9

    It's much more movie than literary SF, it's clear you're way better versed in fantasy than SF. Also a lot of budget, pulpy universes while most of the truly triple A universes are missing - Pohl's Gateway, Reynolds' Revelation Space, Hamilton's Pandora Star, Banks' Culture, Simmons' Hyperion, Vinge's Fire Upon The Deep or Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga and quite a few more. Not bashing you, just giving a few tips for some truly prestigious reading.

    • @karloscv1781
      @karloscv1781 Před 3 lety +2

      Yep. Adding John Scalzi, Larry Niven and Neal Asher, all phenomenal worldcrafts. Also Expanse is only potentially great. It all hangs on the eventual conclusion. It still may fizzle out like Lost - all exciting questions and embarrassing answers.

    • @nickd5158
      @nickd5158 Před 3 lety +1

      @@karloscv1781 I think the odds are low. To me the Expanse keeps beautifully evolving and they actually seem to have an end game in mind.

    • @nickd5158
      @nickd5158 Před 3 lety

      Warhammer 40k universe. Massive, well realized, tons of Canon, great history, etc.

    • @karloscv1781
      @karloscv1781 Před 3 lety +2

      @@nickd5158 Well here's hoping. So far the authors are drip-feeding us the meta-narrative so slowly as if they're planning to top Sword of Truth in the eventual number of volumes.

    • @nickd5158
      @nickd5158 Před 3 lety +1

      @@karloscv1781 as long as the quality remains high and they put them out consistently I'm okay with that.
      So far so good. I've liked some better than others but the quality has been high to date.

  • @MattKAva
    @MattKAva Před 3 lety

    I'm so happy your enjoying The Expanse, it seems you enjoy it for all the same reasons I do!

  • @MindHackersInc
    @MindHackersInc Před 3 lety

    Hey, do you guys recommend reading the expanse or listening to the audiobook? I get through books about 50/50. Example I read stormlight but listened to lies of Locke lamora.

  • @hckytwn3192
    @hckytwn3192 Před 3 lety +3

    People already mentioned Farscape and Stargate, but you also could add The Culture by Ian Banks

  • @mercurius665
    @mercurius665 Před 3 lety +10

    Culture universe. Iain M Banks.

  • @Soul2312
    @Soul2312 Před 3 lety +1

    Idk man, I get your arguments and stuff, but Star Wars still makes me feel something so much more than any of the other universes...

  • @michaelbodell7740
    @michaelbodell7740 Před 3 lety +2

    I think there should be listed also some of:
    - Culture Series (Iain Banks's sci-fi, Consider Phlebas and so on) - A well developed universe which is unusual in that there is a utopian, post-scarcity hyperpower, and the implications of how that works and how people (and AIs) in that situation interact with the rest of the universe outside it.
    - Mars trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars) - Hyper realistic hard sci-fi that is extremely good at building out world.
    - Imperial Radch (Ancillary Justice and follow ons) - High quality books and interesting universe with AIs and star ships as well as cloned/duplicated consciousness.
    - Neuromancer (Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive) - This was the heavily influential work that Matrix and others built off. You could also maybe add Snow Crash here even though it is a different author and different world, it is also this Matrix like world well realized.
    - Ender's Game - In addition to the first book, the universe is fleshed out in continuation, and the Earth politics are fleshed out in the shadow books.
    - Vorkosigan Saga - This series of sci-fi books builds out a universe with diverse planets that have diverse cultures and perspectives. Not all of the planets are equally well fleshed out, but overall the universe is consistent and effective in framing the stories and the main planets and cultures are extensively developed.
    I also recommend all of the above books to readers of sci-fi.
    From TV, I agree that Babylon5 is a strong universe for its story, and developed well. Another more recent TV show that I thought did a good job with near-future world building was Humans which develops the AI and synth and their impact on the world and economy as well as that thin line between utility/machine versus conscious/humanity?

  • @Anthony_Cika
    @Anthony_Cika Před 3 lety +3

    In terms of Scifi series. I'd seriously recommend the 'Expeditionary Force' series.
    It's probably low B-tier, if I'm being honest, closer to C. But it's got some great Hard SF combat.

  • @AaronSKZ
    @AaronSKZ Před 3 lety +6

    So my initial reactions:
    1. Holy shit Im wearing that shirt!! 👀
    2. What is Daniel smoking? Lol 😂

  • @ericmerrell8622
    @ericmerrell8622 Před 3 lety

    So glad you included Larry Niven.

  • @keithredacted8154
    @keithredacted8154 Před 3 lety

    I just bought my first set of booka because of you. Also, still love the watch strap.

  • @TheCyberneticVortex
    @TheCyberneticVortex Před 3 lety +3

    Any Greg Egan books is S+ for being a literal whole ass universe

  • @Anonymos185
    @Anonymos185 Před 3 lety +17

    Seriously, how the hell does Daniel have time to watch, read and play every new series, book and game that come out?
    I can barely stay ahead of the tv shows my friends recommend me

    • @matthewletexier
      @matthewletexier Před 3 lety +1

      He has a video on this thing exactly

    • @samyrandome425
      @samyrandome425 Před 3 lety

      I am unemployed and i still can't catch up on the 372627263 things i wanna be caught up on

  • @becklebooks
    @becklebooks Před 3 lety +2

    I'll forever be sad about the potential that was pulled out from under Firefly. I loved that season so much.

  • @DanA-py4kl
    @DanA-py4kl Před 3 lety

    Great list! My top sci fi universe is Hyperion, especially considering it was conceptualized before the internet

  • @TheGamerThatKills
    @TheGamerThatKills Před 3 lety +3

    *Cries in no 40k*

  • @SaraPaucirerol
    @SaraPaucirerol Před 3 lety +9

    A minute of silence for Firefly

  • @LokiCocola
    @LokiCocola Před 3 lety

    Fantastic list

  • @natep7079
    @natep7079 Před 3 lety

    last time i was this early greene daniel was still alive

  • @Nasser851000
    @Nasser851000 Před 3 lety +3

    0:00 *Insert Jump Around song here*

  • @line4169
    @line4169 Před 3 lety +10

    Neon Genesis Evangelion & Akira are my favourite sci-fi universe, you should watch them as they are classic & influential !

    • @RedtsunamiTed
      @RedtsunamiTed Před 3 lety

      Akira is S tier for me with the Manga and everything. So freakin good.

    • @leenox23
      @leenox23 Před 3 lety

      @a b what about steins gate? if you haven't watched it you must! ergo proxy was all build up ... the ending was so disappointing. you should also try Metropolis from 2001 and Sakasama no Patema.

  • @Stormbless3d
    @Stormbless3d Před 3 lety +1

    Hey Daniel! There may not be enough time, but can we get a recap before Rythm of War drops? Please and thank you 😘

  • @Linderhoth
    @Linderhoth Před 3 lety +5

    It always saddens me how Warhammer 30k and 40k are left out for its approach (just being 52 books the horus heressy it's pretty understandable how its left out)
    But while not all its perfect by any means there are true gems in HH the world is leaving behind.

    • @willrob3951
      @willrob3951 Před 3 lety +1

      The Horus Heresy is the true masterpiece in regards to the writing/lore for the Warmhammer 40k Universe, which in my opinion, should definitely deserve to be recognized as one the richest Sci/Fi universes ever created. People rag on it a lot for some reason. It blows Halo out of the water in my eyes.

    •  Před 4 měsíci

      @@willrob3951 in all fairness though you could put dune, foundations, halo, mad max, terminator, matrix into Warhammer's universe pretty easily. it is simply that expansive.

  • @benwhiley9680
    @benwhiley9680 Před 3 lety +5

    List doesn't have Hamilton's _Commonwealth_ and _Confederation_ or Banks' _Culture_ ; imo the best sci-fi to come out in the last 20 (aww sugar how old am I? 40...) years. List is extremely incomplete!
    That being said, the only outlier (out by more than 1 level imo) on Greene Daniel's list for me would be Who which should be lower. Even at its best during the Tennant years, it's just a fun show.
    -
    Edit: (Brit asking) Do all American's pronounce u's as oo's? Doon instead on D-yoon.

    • @hoominbeeing
      @hoominbeeing Před 3 lety +2

      Canadian here. I think north Americans don't pronounce "u" with any "y".
      For example, we usually pronounce "Uber" as "oober" rather than "you-ber".
      Either way, pronouncing "u" with a "y" although uncommon, is usually unnoticeable by most people across the pond.

    • @benwhiley9680
      @benwhiley9680 Před 3 lety

      @@hoominbeeing
      Thanks for the info :)
      Though, Uber is "oober" (in Brit accent too) because it is a German word and, therefore, a bad example ;)
      I just noticed this about Dune/Doon and when NA's speak about the Tube/Toob in London.
      Also, appropriate name lol.

  • @TacticalBunnyCA
    @TacticalBunnyCA Před 3 lety +2

    Battle Star Galactica lost its mojo so hard in the end of the final season that, for me, the entire validity of the show was negated. The story ark was so integral to the show that when the answer to all the problems was “God fixed it and Starbuck was literally an angel” it flushed everything down the toilet 🚽.

  • @JjAnteros
    @JjAnteros Před 2 lety +1

    can u do another video? i really want to know how Matrix is above StarWars, all I'm going to say is EP3, Ecumenopolis', and lightsabers

  • @slipychip
    @slipychip Před 3 lety +20

    No mass effect??

    • @Joh2453
      @Joh2453 Před 3 lety

      I thought the same thing. An easy S tier missed

    • @gauthel
      @gauthel Před 3 lety +1

      Or WH40k

    • @DanielGreeneReviews
      @DanielGreeneReviews  Před 3 lety +10

      AH! Should have included that. As well as 100,000 others.
      So I’m aware I can come across like an ass over text. It’s really something I’m working on. I just am very dry and it hits wrong. Trust me, my GF is on me about it and we’re trying to fix it.

    • @angela_merkeI
      @angela_merkeI Před 3 lety

      @@melvinlinderoth7108 He played the games though.

    • @gauthel
      @gauthel Před 3 lety +1

      @@DanielGreeneReviews Of course you can't include every s-f universe there is. The impression I had watching your video is that you were ranking the big ones with biggest/most established fandoms. The heavy hitters, and 40K (and arguably ME) are among the "heaviest". I understand that you may be not as familiar with 40k as with Halo.

  • @amankumarshaw5407
    @amankumarshaw5407 Před 3 lety +12

    Did he just really say the new planet of the apes trilogy is just ok.... it's one of the best trilogies ever made and from the old ones the 1st one is a classic.. didn't expect this from him... I didn't believe it at first so I had to watch it a couple of times to finally believe what he said

    • @ProvidenceNL
      @ProvidenceNL Před 3 lety

      It is just ok.

    • @DanielGreeneReviews
      @DanielGreeneReviews  Před 3 lety +1

      They were just ok

    • @amankumarshaw5407
      @amankumarshaw5407 Před 3 lety

      @@DanielGreeneReviews I disagree .... I'm sure you are in the minority with this one... majority believe it to be really great ..and it's one of my favorites of course ...may be give it a second try

    • @amankumarshaw5407
      @amankumarshaw5407 Před 3 lety

      @@DanielGreeneReviews most probably that trilogy is the reason Matt Reeves got Batman..as his direction in planet of the apes was phenomenal..

    • @ec_me
      @ec_me Před 3 lety

      Yes I was in shock a bit by his words, replayed it slack jawed. Buy hey 😅 it's okay.

  • @laurensvanulden4367
    @laurensvanulden4367 Před 3 lety +2

    Great to see Larry Niven on your list. I realy loved his books. But I'm missing Greg Bear's Eon trilogy. An absolute classic. And if, IF, you're interested in enlarging your tbr list: The long earth books by Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter are realy worth the while.

    • @dylantowers9367
      @dylantowers9367 Před 3 lety +1

      Speaking of Pratchett, I enjoyed what he did with Strata. A less whimsical, Sci-fi Discworld before Discworld.

  • @thomasdevenish865
    @thomasdevenish865 Před 3 lety +2

    If you take only one recommendation from all of the stuff being thrown out here, Iain M Banks' Culture series is sincerely so well done and stands as one of the true pinnacles of modern far-future sci-fi. Personal favourite: Use of Weapons, easily cracks into my list of best books I've ever read, though Player of Games is also very highly regarded.
    If you have more time: Peter F Hamilton (whatever the heck the name is of the Reality Dysfunction universe) and Neal Asher (Polity). I see Alistair Reynolds brought up a lot as well in relation to these guys but I haven't gotten round to reading him yet.

  • @gijsklaassen8851
    @gijsklaassen8851 Před 3 lety +5

    Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?:/

    • @katuhullu
      @katuhullu Před 3 lety +1

      I was looking for this comment! I need to give some love for the excellent books and absurd universe. "Thanks for all the fish!"

  • @QazwerDave
    @QazwerDave Před 3 lety +3

    Completely agree with the Star Wars point. There's so much wasted potential there !!

  • @sechay9328
    @sechay9328 Před 3 lety

    Whew, this one will come back with the haunting.

  • @donkyoofficial
    @donkyoofficial Před 3 lety +1

    Bro the Planet of the Apes ranking hurt. Personally, one of my favorite sci-fi "universes."

  • @codycates3427
    @codycates3427 Před 3 lety +5

    feel like stargate should have gotten on the list too

    • @someoneelse3084
      @someoneelse3084 Před 3 lety +1

      yeah, 17 seasons of television (plus a few movies) is some pretty fleshed out worldbuilding. Moreso than some of the shit he included on this list. And by shit I mean excrement.

    • @ThatSpecificIndividual
      @ThatSpecificIndividual Před 3 lety +1

      @@someoneelse3084 plus the characters are top notch.