DALI Opticon 6 VS B&W 703 S2 And the winner is...?
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- SOUND BATTLE between two of the best mid-class floorstanding speakers on the market!
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I listened at both of them in a store, i bought the Dali’s, i’ve hooked them up with an vintage Marantz AA-1050 reciver..... wow, that sound, i hope my neighbours like them too
Madone 9.0 😂😂😂😂
😂@i hope my neighbours like them too.
Neighbour: Turn that darn thing down!!!
You: it's Dali's my darling!😂
Neighbour: Don't touch that dial!!! In fact, can you give it a little bit more vooma! 😂
Yes,neighbor girls will rock with you
I watched this video using a pair of Bowers and Willkins 705S2 stand mount speakers. Honestly, I found he Dalis to be smoother. I thought the mid range on the 703 to be too forward. Now I have to go rethink my entire life. Thanks for this.
go easy on your life, buy new entery level oberton 7 florstanding speakers for less than your used 705s , and live on :)
Well,… After listening to this again one month later, I prefer the sound of the Bowers and Wilkins. Now the Dalis sound compressed and lacking in midrange. Hopefully one day I'll end up with a pair of 702 S2 towers.
B&W seem a little more lively sounding and Dali a little more laid back, rolled off top end. I prefer a lively, with being too bright. I liked the B&W better, but to each their own!
I have a pair of Opticon 6s which I'm fairly happy with. My impression is that Dali do a good job with their speakers, and that they are good value for money. After testing a range of floorstanders (a selection of brands/models as offered by Superfi & Richer Sounds), I gravitated toward the Dalis, as the others sounded too bright for my liking. I run them through a dual speaker output Creek Evolution 100A amp with Zensor 7s on the secondary speaker output, positioned at the side of the room. Find the Opticon 6s only really 'sing' well if you turn them up a bit. Played together with the Zensors, they compliment each other very well and sound very full & layered even at a fairly low volume. Played separately they sound very different, which is odd - as demoed at Richer Sounds (admittedly with a different amp), they sounded very similar to my ears at the time. Just goes to show .. you never really know til you get it home (.. and run it in for a while). Am thinking about trading up on the Zensors, and was considering B&W (used to have DM7 Mk 2s, back in the day [driven by a Luxman amp] - sounded good) .. but maybe I'd be better off looking for other companions for my Opticon 6s. Again, the problem of finding a retailer who'll have demo units they'd let you take home to test (after having forked out full price as a deposit, of course) .. still difficult to find those that would oblige. Any thoughts or suggestions ? Good luck & happy listening. SJ.
Hi..woold opticon 6 be a good match witk music fidelity m5si amp?
I prefer B&W very much. Flatter response, more defined transients, more pleasant highs. With B&W I can also follow the bass line much easier. Thanks very much for the comparison.
Лучше сделать нарезку видео по несколько секунд с моментальным переключение между разными колонками. Для большей наглядности.
It’s better to cut the video for a few seconds with instant switching between different columns. For greater clarity.
aleksmechanic, нет
Many of you asked my opinion and to write a review about these 2 speakers. But since the intent of this channel is to give a “first touch” to all music lovers with some interesting components, i am not accustomed to write reviews.
I accepted to try, but please forgive me if my english is far from perfect (i am Italian).
MY POINT OF VIEW:
Opticon 6 shows immediately emphasis in the upper range. Trebles are high in quality (smooth, sweet, textured) and quantity (some record could become brighter than usual). Mid-high region is silky-smooth and never disturbing. This is the first great difference with B&W 703 S2. Mid-high frequencies on this speaker aren’t ideal, they are hard and sometimes edgy (listen to consonants in Mark Knopfler’s voice). At the contrary very high frequencies are absolutely correct and pleasantly detailed (although not liquid as in the DALIs). Another great difference is in the midrange. Opticon shows off quite recessed medium frequencies, whereas B&W begins to shine with full-full-full-bodied voices, electric guitars and snare drums. This particular characteristic in medium-range reproduction of the DALIs enhance image depth and tridimensionality but also introduces some non-linearity in this region causing occasionally nasality and boxiness. I tend to prefer the more in-your-face regularity of the 703. Mid bass are good for both without reaching excellence in articulation. Knopfler’s voice for example sounds good but not great with both (missing some nuances) Bass: 703 to me is bass shy, also the less noble sibling B&W 603 S6 produces more bass than this speaker. Someone could like a very flat and lean bass like this but to my taste they are simply not enough to enjoy a kick drum. Opticon bass is pretty good, rounded and with the right slam. Both are fast enough to play a double bass without shortness of breath. Deep bass: both reaches very deep bass but at a lower level than the rest. Still they are admirable in this aspect.
Both cabinets do not add any disturbing unwanted resonance/coloration and seems to be dead-sounding (to my ears, i did not measured them with an accelerometer)
CONCLUSION:
So if i were in search of a premium floorstander which one would i buy?
Honestly, none of the above.
When some time ago i auditioned the Tannoy Revolution XT6F and XT8F i immediately noticed the x-factor in these speakers. They are not beautiful-looking as the DALIs, neither elegant as the B&Ws, but their sound is so expressive, involving, convincing. They want to play again and again. They are not perfect, of course, and not linear in absolute terms. Upper trebles are somewhat coloured and bass can become a bit boomy if not correctly positioned or in a smaller-than-ideal room. But when you find a speaker that make you forget about partnering the more suitable amplifier, cable, source because it sounds so “right” and so joyful with any of them, i think you’ve found the right entrance to MUSIC.
Thank you for taking an effort to share your views!
Thank you for your opinion.
The Tannoy Revolution series really sound fantastic.
Can you get your hands on Tannoy Mercury 7.4, Dali Zensor 7, Jamo C97 and make a test video?
Thanks.
Dalí👍👍
Interesting how you preferred the Tannoys XT series, i owned these and yes the bass was fantastic on XT8F but i found them to be too bright and sometimes silibant on female voices.
I currently own B&W cm9 s2 speaker's and wonder if they almost strike the perfect balance as they are not as bright as the newer 700 series and to me the bass is fine ,
I partner them with a sealed svs sb2000 so bass is not an issue anyway and my amp is the new Arcam SA20.
To me the b&w cm9 s2 sound so smooth and clear and i remember old xt8f sounded far too pitchy at high volumes.
ciao condivido pienamente la tua recensione....dovendo scegliere fra i due sceglierei le Dali
0:24 optical
5:26 B&W
Ive heard both live, and im buying the Dali Opticon 6 in a months time. B&W's are great too, but the Dali is much more natural and clear when you hear them in real life :) Cant wait to own them.
I thought that too!!! Are you satisfied with ?
@@EltonMinduri yes. Perfect speakers.
I am huge fan of Bowers and Wilkins but after listen to this again! I have second thoughts! Anyway Viva la Musica!!! Greetings from Brazil!
Long time ago i listened to many speakers . Dali got a nice natural sound , imho better then B&W . High end KEF imho got the best bass performance , but were always lacking in high tones , Dali meets somewhere in the middle and as far as i hear now in YT reviews , the highs are now even better also the B&W ( btw , they are by no means bad speakers ...)
@ano did you ever listen to the Oberon 7? I have a pair and considering an upgrade to opticon 6
Nice review, from my point of view Dali's sound is more open, balanced and natural while B&D vocal are slightly higher so they stand out more then lower frequencies . So my winner is Dali. Anyway both speakers are great.
The B&W is clearly brighter and more "forward". It might be easier to listen to the Dali for extended periods.
The DALI's - More inner detail. Natural, easy on ears sound, non-fatiguing despite the better extension at the top.
The B&W - in this test they have an advantage, they are playing a dB or 2 higher SPL than the DALIs which should help them. Yet, they sound muddy *in comparison*. Highs on the B&Ws are not as extended. Male vocal is chesty, but overall sound too upfront to allow a good peep into the sound-stage.
they both have completely different output profile, so it will depend on your taste or what music you usually listen to. I'd pick Dali - better imaging and soundstage for me.
The Dali sounds like real music, the B&W sounds like a recording
Definitly! That was my first thought jumping back and forth ;-)
@@christianboeger947 This is a perfect example of what i believe are the two schools of audio design, not just in speakers, but in amps and other electronics too. There's the speakers and electronics like the Dalis, that are very warm and natural sounding, and seem to disappear and let the music speak for itself. They seem to be saying "I'm not even here, listen to the music". Then there's the speakers and amps like the B&Ws, too bright and shiny sounding, which are always calling attention to themselves trying to impress you, and want to make you listen to the sound instead of the music. They seem to be shouting "Listen to me! I'm SO Hi-Fi!"
@@DougMen1I disagree there are good and bad designs. Dali was never used in studios but b&w 800 series is used in many studios around the world
Having heard both recently I can only agree: The Dalis sound much more engaging, but the B&W 700-series was also much better than the 600 also demonstrated.
Dali wins hands down way way better in my opinion ..
Dali is winner ! So sweet more !!
Had them at home for test in 6 days.. i went with Dali Opticon 6. More details i high tone...
Interesting comparison, with the Dali Opticons punching above their weight. However, the B&W 703S2 is closer in price to the Dali Rubicon 6 than Opticon 6. The Rubicons in my opinion would make it very very hard for the B&Ws.
Vow, Dali sounds more Natural. For a true vocal lover.
Hmm, after listening those in store listening room I would say that B&W sounded more natural. Dalis are good no doupt, but singers voice came more from the box.
Good comparison Sound Sommelier. I did find the Dali’s highs to be more forward, while B&W’s sounded better when more of the instruments are being played. Sadly for me, I would have to listen to many more genres of music, songs, etc.., to decide what sound I prefer. It will always be subjective at a certain point, one has to take the devices we watch our CZcams videos on, which then filters the sound again. The room size and shape we place these speakers in will further influence our preferences based on my limited understanding of sound characteristics.
I tried both today. Almost Jazz, a few Classic, some complicated brass pieces and rock. I gone focused on b&w into the shop and decided for the Opticon 6.
They definitely sounder warmer and more complete, I have not found a pair of B&W's that I like yet. For high end Focal are way better than B&W, I have not heard the higher end Dali speakers so who knows?
@@davelaatsch4145 Oookeee. I had a try on Epicons. They are for sure better than the Opticons. But ok. They are five times more expensive. And you can spend even more money. And ever time it will be a little or bigger bit better.
And if you were to represent the relations mathematically, you could even call the Opticon bad. But they aren't. In the end, it's about being realistic and reasonable.
After two years I thought about selling the Opticon and buying a pair of used Epicon 6. I had a nice hearing session on new ones in a better room also, because the hearing room of the seller wasn't as ideal. Yes they're cool. Is it worth it? Yes. Maybe. Did I decide to buy? No. Things has to stop at some point.
Dali sounds laid back, thick and full but with the b&w i felt like there's way more notes to hear. A clearer richer sound. I choose B&W's.
The drums sound much better on these B&Ws! Their sound is very natural and I get the impression that they are being played in my room.
Great. Many thanks for sharing!
If you can, do more comparisons like this, really useful in seeing the A vs B contrast between various speakers.
After first listening Dali sounded richer and the B&W more boxy, after 3-4 auditions started liking the B&W :)
Dali for me, thought they were richer sounding and found the 703's a touch bright.
Are you mad,,???? Mind you on a fisher price stereo they probably sound okay fair play,,,,!!!
the dali are the first ones if you hadn't noticed yet
The Dali are smoother sounding, which suits some people. I’d hazard a guess that some older guys don’t hear the upper treble issue as much.
The B&W are great for dissecting instruments and have a nice big soundstage . I prefer them because the Dali treble gets to my ears
Thank you for comparing. To me hands down the B&W, like much more how live they sound. Dali is nice too just another style, smoother, calmer.
Hello! I recommend Heco Elementa 700 loudspeakers.Sounds amazing, dynamic, clear. Good detailed sound at low level and not afraid of high volumes.
The Dali seem to sound way better. The B&W sound pretty boxy you get to much cabinet response with those
B&W For me.Sound is more Natural,B&W know how to make Speakers!! Superb all round.
Dali has never Done it for me. To bright
I prefer Opticon 6 in this combination as the quantity between music and vocal is relatively balanced whereas the 703S2, the vocal and particular music instruments (guitar in this case）were more emphasized than the DALIs, they owned a special signature sound of B&W. But considering the retail prices of both pairs, they are not in the same class as the others mentioned before, DALIs is relatively lower so the CP ratio seems higher than the 703S2.
In principle, both sound speakers are strong in their category,but for me personally, the sound from BOWERS & WILKINS is more preferable.
The openness and forwardness of the Bmrs comes at a price. I own Bmrs so yes I know. I actually looking for more natural sounding speakers now.
I bought the 703 s2 about a year ago. Perfect for jazz. Acoustic guitar and vocals really shine too. Delighted with this purchase and highly recommend
What ampli use ? Please
@@vincentmartinent2518 www.cambridgeaudio.com/row/en/products/cx/cxa80
I think i'd do some more research if I was doing this again. This is a decent amp on all accounts but at times the sound is too bright. Think something more subtle could be the way to go but no idea what.
dali. sounds more organic & airy. the B&W kinda has that metallic upper mids / treble I always hear even on cheaper 606
I think it's a bit complicated to create a decision with one song.
You need to listen to your mostly listened music type. Than you wil find your true winner.
What we can say for sure is that Dali wins in sort of openness and a very relaxed, honestly heart - winning midrange production, it's a characteristics which even shimmers down to the Zensor 1.
B & W doesn't make any big changes in their Philosophy. Good music material - good reproduction. Bad quality music source - bad reproduction. Typically a reference for professional music production.
The weaker point between each other will be the deeper frequencies, were the wide openness of Dali turns very fast to a disadvantage in bass reproduction, which needs more punch, more volume, more separation capabilities. So there the speaker needs to be tighten up instead of being "relaxed".
So digging there might be the better solution, if you need to find substantial advantages/disadvantages.
Update:
Even at the voice of Mark Knopfler (Sub - Mid), you can hear the chracteristical difference between these two's.
Where Mark sounds really reaxed and smoth when he's 'tired of these things' (1st refrain, after 40sec of songs' beginning) at Dali, on B&W his downgoing voice gets a crisp bassy note (listen carefully).
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@@yusufbas890 Önemli olan sonuç tespit mi yoksa farkların yorumu mu?
4k for the B&W 2.5k for the Dali. For me the extended listener would be the Dalis.
I got to preview the flagship 20k 8s and those are some serious speakers that could easily go up against higher priced competitors
The B&W sound cleaner.
Dali is warm, finest and natural !
Both Great but I believe the B&W has a bit more precise and controlled deep pronounced bass, the Dali has a more open soundstage.... between the 2 I would choose B&W. Great Comparison btw....
Had a good look at both these and the Tannoys. Ended up with Evo 4.4's. Which blew these away if you do love the natural sound.
Can you give me your opinion about the Tannoys? Thanks
I you duplicate the tab and listen to them both in sync, sounds really good, but i am listening on DALI's so that would probably explain why.....I do love the Dali's
BW = higher details in high frequency
Dali = higher in dynamic range and spatial resolution natural and neutral balance in high frequency
My taste is Dali
BMW? :D
Prefer Dali.
Стоимость дали оптикон полторы тысячи долларов, а бивни 4тыс + , совсем правильное сравнение, без слов
Надо было с Rubicon 6 сравнить!
И что с того если Дали уделали акустику в несколько раз дороже. Ка кне курти, а даже с ютуба слышно, что звук в Дали более приятный и естественный.
@@MMManijak для вас просто приятно отсутствие средних, имеете право, меня же это бесит, когда включаешь классику, половины оркестра не слышно.
Dali is more neutral,B&W has soundstage turned forward,and littlebit brightersound,bouth are sounding good,taste is different,I think like B&W is better with voices,Tnx for this video!!
its hard to make comparasion on youtube,they sound pretty much the same but only in live audition can really say which is better :D
It's relative to the system I'm listening on (Sennheiser HD650s connected to my tablet via a dragonfly DAC) but the B&Ws have a metallic sounding upper mid which isn't working for me. The spatialisation feels off, which could relate to how this is mic'ed. It sounds fine with the DALIs so not sure what to think.
Difficult to choose, both are very good speakers but what a cooool song by Dire Straits...
I'll go with dali, just sounds more natural to me.
Couldn't make my mind up, all depends on the frequency response and quality of the microphone used for capture at the end of the day. I have a 5.1 surround DALI system at home and my music could't sound any more full of life!
Man I love both pairs for both looks, and sound. I would have to go with the DALI Opticon, they had a little fuller sound to me. Thank You for letting us viewers partake in this comparison!
Wrong,,,!!!
@@tomtaylor7292 Troll!
Love these comparison videos. Thank you much for sharing! Without having heard many speakers in person and not the focal either: focal is still my favorite sounding speaker (Sopra / 1038be / diablo / utopia) if you can afford the entire system which will run about $40K USD for the cheapest. I've heard too many people say the focal get bright and are hard to mess with (a female dog to be exact) that I'd be scared to mess with them. I've been interested in listening to Tekton speakers but I haven't been super impressed by any of the videos. I'm also interested in Klipsch forte iii, I like the Klipsch sound. In fact, if not for it's lack of being more pinpoint accurate, I would be totally drooling over the Klipsch sound: lively, powerful, can image surprisingly well, very good punch and dynamics. Only the mids can be smeared and they can get a bit edgy.
I came here to listen to the Dali.
I like the sound of the B&W better, though. But they sound a little too thin in the mid-range. The highs sound more full bodied and the bass sounds a lot tighter but lacking some punch. The Dali bass sounds a little bloated but punches better. I think the mids of the Dali sound better. I've noticed in other videos the same problem with the Dali's in the bass and treble.
After reading your take, I realize my impression is quite different, almost seems opposite, than yours but in the end I agree, I wouldn't buy either one. The b&w is too thin overall, and the Dali sounds a bit smeared and cheap, not a great bit better than my ancient old used set of $400 pair of infinity beta 50. It almost sounds the b&w engineer knew right where the frequency would start eminating/reverberating/causing slowness and muddiness to the sound and cut the speaker off as high as he or she could to keep that from happening but it comes at the expense of sounding small for it's size. The speaker needs more weight and gives me the vibe of being clinical (if I understand the term correctly, how other's use it, that's how I would describe it in my own usage of "clinical".)
The B&M had better clarity to my ears.
B&M???!!
Doesn´t Dali´s cost about haft the price of B&W´s? That´s a huge value for money.
Much better separation and presence with the B&W's, listening to this with Logitech THX 2.1 speakers on my PC. I own the Tannoy XT8's I'm confident the Dali's are no match...maybe the B&W's could compete in mid-range presence ( dependant on room size and acoustics for either speaker) I do find the Tannoys can be boomy and lack out right bone rattling power but the bass detail and extension is mind blowing
The dali seemed too bright..? B&w had a little more warm touch on the vocals.
Although I'm a fun of B&W I think Dali sounded better . I did own a pair of zensor 3 and I did love them .
BW good at mid, high range and more dynamic, nature. Dali good at bass however mid and high range is not clear.
Слушал вначале оригинал песни в Foobar в наушниках Beyerdynamic DT990. Потом уже слушал эти колонки через наушники свои. Наиболее точно отыграли B&W.
Dali красиво приукрашивают, добавляют глубину сцены, средние и высокие добавляются. Выбор сложный )).
старый добрый старичок, это лишь означает одно, что бивни более требовательны к источнику! а дали ест и мп3 с телефона
I did not liked dali ikon 6 in another video against kef q700 and against canton chrono 5..sth.
But these opticon are much better!
I would prefer them to the b&w, which are not bad to.
For me it is always important to think about : To which speakers can I listen for a long time and stay relaxed?
This time :dali.
I'm comparing these two and buying one of them in April. I can't wait to audition them. I'm also chucking into the mix the Monitor Audio Silver.
Should be a good hours comparison.
B&W is twice the price. Would compare them with the dali rubicon series.
I like the more laidback sound of the dali's
To tight no real depth sorry,,
Plus one for the Dali’s! I don’t know hoe to put it in words but the B&W’s sound like ... music in a wooden box. The dali’s seem much more open.
Nailed it
The Dali for me was the better speaker, the B&W's sounded harsh!
Thank you for the great video.From the first hand experience would love to hear which one is the winner in your view.
Pranab Mishra Thank you. Next month i will add to description a brief review and my personal point of view about these 2 beauties. And also the name of the speaker that would beat both ;-)
@@SoundSommelier Looking forward for your update!
Couldn’t read the brand names from that far away but the 2nd pair sounded more open , not congested
2nd is b&w
The DALI Opticon 6 takes the clarity for me. They are incredible ️
The B&W overall for me. However, they do have a bit of a too bright top end in my opinion.
At 0:04 and again at 5:05 you can get direct comparisons.
You are absolute right on your opinion , i heard those tannoy too and i liked them a lot 😉 i have Monitor audio silver 8 and they are likeable too 😁
Quelle coincidence, je viens d'écouter ce morceau il y a un quart d'heure sur ma vieille et cheap chaine hifi : Yamaha AX 530 , Marantz CD 5001 et Focal Chorus 706v, cables Audioquest Tower , le son est donc tout " frais " dans ma tete . J'ai l'impression d'entendre ici plein de nuances inconnues jusque là dans les aigus, les cymbales.
Les Dali sont les plus flatteuses à mes oreilles sur tout le spectre. j'ai l'impression que les BW projettent trop en avant les fréquences moyennes et les voix sont comme sorties d'un acquarium .
The b&w in real life has clarity and detail in the high end that in remarkable. The dalis seem to have a great punch on transients, nice warmth and good hi freqs.
Dali sounds more neutral. I think B&W has a little bir more colouration at midrange. So, what is your opinion?
Dali colours the music far more than the B&W.
I would say that the Dali has a sound that's equivalent to having an equalizer set in a smiley-face pattern, whereas the B&W have a more uniform projection of the frequency range (which is common in speakers from the UK). Some people like recessed vocals and mid-range sound (I guess b/c it can sound smoother, in a way), but having the mid-range in line with the rest of the frequency range, as with the B&W, is much more realistic-sounding. It may *seem* like the Dalis are more neutral, but in reality, they aren't. Mid-range is where most of the 'action' is in music, so it makes sense to have an open and transparent mid-range, not recessed into the mix. Many people are not used to this more realistic sound representation, though, so it's different strokes for different folks.
@@BadMonkeyFinger_Audio Your comment make me understand the sound better. Thank you very much.
@@premiere3610 thanks for the kind reply; I'm happy to hear my comments prompted some thought/ gave perspective. Have a good day! Cheers!
@Peder Hansen Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. When I was younger, I would have agreed with you, but over the past 35 years in the hobby, my understanding of sound has matured to a very large extent. The Dalis sound like they have a V-shaped equalizer setting. The B&Ws have a more present and 'real' sounding mid-range, which some people may not be used to. The Dali's mid-range is very recessed by comparison, which doesn't sound bad, but it certainly sounds much less 'real'. (btw - i'm not a fan of B&W, but in this case, they are better than the Dalis. That is not to say that some people, like yourself, wouldn't prefer them - and i understand why. But to say it's more 'natural' is an erroneous statement). Close your eyes when listening, and ask yourself which of the two sounds more like a 'live' performance.
Sempre dei video da orgasmo! ❤️
You should have compared B&W 703 S2 with DALI Opticon 8 as they are roughly in the same price range and Opti8 has more clearer sound than Opti6.
I demoed the Tonnoy and Dali. Connected to the same Pioneer amp. Dali were a far nicer sound than the XT for my listening.
The Dali’s has a warm heart.
God them B&W'S are quality,,,, as they say OMG,,!!! You'll only regret buying the Dali's rather than the beautiful B & W'S deffo,,!!!
Даже по видео слышно , насколько Dali звучат приятней , чем кевларовые бивни , особенно средние частоты - сама музыка .
They sound so different. In my ears the b&w sounds like a speaker with no way near linear frequency response. Dali sounds pretty neutral.
Dali Opticon 6 the best of The World speakers for me :-)
Dali for me, i heard them in RL.
I'm just listening on my phone, but the B&W speakers have considerably better midrange. Midrange is the most important part of music, so it's an easy choice for me. As for bass and treble, my phone doesn't do that, nor do my computer speakers, so I would have to compare the speakers in person. From what I can tell on CZcams, the B&Ws are much more alive. The others are kind of boring, but to each his own.
i don't understand how you can listen to these speaker through youtube? Is it me or can you only hear your own speakers at home while you play this video?
Yes i can hear a difference but i think i want to listen to the speakers in real life, no?
Chaïm Van Damme well you can't and this is the best approximation
I own these Dalis and after a looong (450-500 hrs) "burning in" they sound AMAZING!!!! I almost gave up on them, change them for the Tannoy 8s but when they started to play, not anymore...I tried these B&Ws and they are not even closer...We tested them side by side and Dalis are more detailed...Even the hifi shop owner advise me to keep them and not to change to Tannoy. ps: listening this video on Canton Karat 300 ;)
I like the Dalis, for me there is some rightness in the nasality of the voice. But the B&W plays louder ( are they volume -matched?) and has more detail. Too much of both can be tiring for long period of listening.
I found the Dali sounded good until I heard the B&W. The B&W had more bass and was clearer over all frequencies. The B&W was more forward with real presence in the mids.
The Bowers sounds more like a live performance. The drums especially are very lifelike in person.
Love the Dali detail i guess the mid and top end but the B & W bass was so so much smoother yet with impact . The B & W's lacked sparkle , nice sounding and you could tell a flat response just were I guess a bit flat , listened through Sennheiser Momentum 1's. Winner Dali by a ribbon
Es como elegir entre un mercedes benz o un bmw las dos son geniales.
Prefiero un Audi
@@litomovilete18 audi que marca seria en este caso?
I love Dali speakeres so DALI Opticon 6 wins :-)
I've always had B&Ws as I prefer their brighter mid-range. This is a personal taste.
Damn his voice sounded so much different. I wouldn't had thought that. I felt the Dalis sounded / better just as the B&W started but then there's the voice factor. Don't know.
Edit: Read your comment about nasality and boxiness. Yeah.
Guess I prefer the Dali music but the B&W voice ;D
I just played the Dire straits song on my B&W CDM 7se and they sound in-between these two.
what am i missing something? in my country B&Ws cost 2.000 euros more than the Dali (Dali 1500$ - B&W 3500$)
Nice comparison, both are great sounding speakers :)
They both sound great but i still think the B&W speakers sound a bit better, but i like them both, whats the price tag on the Dali speakers? I love these sound reviews, Thank you
B&W is playing louder, and this is not fair compare :) vocals are better on B&W as always, but mid bass generally sounds compressed. I think Dali is more neutral..
For me it was B&W liked the clarity in mids and highs
Someone mentioned that they weren’t equalized for volume. Plus, they aren’t even equivalent speakers price-wise. That aside the Dalis were so clearly superior. The B&Ws are chesty, the soundstage was confused, there’s less detail at both ends of the spectrum. I could go on....
Yup.
I find it pretty remarkable that so many comments here say that the B&Ws have better mids, because they purposely design all their speakers with a suckout in the presence region, which, to my ears anyway, makes midrange sounds from guitars and vocals, and most other instruments, sound distant and veiled. They may have more lower mids, because their speakers are the ones with a smiley face curve, with pumped up bass and treble, and recessed midrange, to call attention to themselves upon first listen in a showroom, but then that too hot and shrill tweeter and fake pumped up bass quickly can become annoying and tiring and quite fatiguing at home during extended listening sessions.
And, anyone here that says they are listening with the tiny and tinny speakers in their phone or laptop shouldn't even be allowed to offer an opinion on the difference in sound between the two speakers
Odd, most B&W were designed to highlight vocals as there is a sizeable market for this sound profile.