Alice Roberts discusses humanist marriages on BBC Sunday Morning Live
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2019
- Humanists UK President Professor Alice Roberts was on BBC Sunday Morning Live to discuss humanism, humanist weddings, and why humanists work for a better world in the one life we have.
My dad had a humanist funeral, his best friend said it best “ All the love with none of the crap”. So glad we chose this route
Humanist funerals are all about the person who has died and none of the God thing.
For the record, as a Christian I support this campaign by Humanist UK
We’ll keep fighting we will get there 👍
Alice is so lovely. She is right, we are moral by nature. When we do bad stuff we attack ourselves, which is not sane, but insanity is not counteracted by religion. It’s important we observe the consequences of our actions, take responsibility, and change what doesn’t work. And enjoy being kind, cos it’s fun!
Looking forward to my humanist wedding! Just need to find a partner first.... 😀
Alice is a very lovely lady and adorable as well 😍😍😍😍😍
Fully agree. She’s a very beautiful woman and extremely talented in many fields 🥰🥰🥰
Yes she is. But she regards Islam and the Koran (as well as other religions) as fiction. Can you cope with that?
@@franciswilson125I can yes
The quicker religion dies the better off we'll all be. Imagine people having to be responsible for their own actions.
Good luck with that, especially when all governments refer to a divine entity.
LOL! We know exactly how that ended when people actually threw religion out... USSR... millions killed and starved to death... China... over 60 million starved to death and millions more killed... Cambodia... millions more systematically slaughtered. All of these were determined to give you your premise, "The quicker religion dies the better off we'll all be."
Have you heard of the laws of karma? Being responsible for your own actions and not blaming others?
@@Sanddollar1 Your examples are much less to do with a lack of religion and everything to do with the nutjobs which managed to get into a position of power
You are in total agreement with the person who said this about Christianity.
"Christianity...Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul , for that evolution was in the natural order of things...The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death...When understanding of the universe has become widespread...Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity...Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity...and that's why someday it's structure will collapse...The only way to get rid of Christianity is allow it to die little by little...Christianity is the invention of sick brains : one could imagine nothing more senseless , nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery...I realize that man , in his imperfection , can commit innumerable errors , that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our Epoch in the next two hundred years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity."
Who said this...it sounds like Richard Dawkins...but it was Adolf Hitler. taken from "Hitler's Table talk 1941 -1944 : His Private Conversations" Did good things result from Hitler's HUMANISM ???
I have just given you a glimpse of the future...and the destruction and death that is going to be coming for all pagans very shortly, according to the signs given in the Bible. And that's what this really is, a revival of pre-Christian paganism which God said He was finally going to judge the way he judged Egypt when they refused to let his people go. I urge you to reject your natural sinful impulses and cry out to God for forgiveness because judgement will fall on you.
Yes! Agree with Alice Roberts
Yes, it sounds like a saint and sensible organization.
Is Religion still a thing!? I guess Religion is like The Archers; a comforting distraction, a hard habit to break and completely made up. Though I don't think The Archers has ever been broadcast in Latin to stop the audience having their own opinion... 😎
@john Doe I think religion is more like porn. Best to do it behind closed doors away from public places and make sure you keep it well away from children.
@John Doe - That's very ignorant of you John Doe, considering that being a hu-manist, defines you as worshipping the human - defined by the very Latin you're critical of.. Hu-man being from the word humus, meaning 'Earth' and 'Ground', - All humanist means is a worshipper of the Earth Man - so as from the Latin.
@@tim-williams that's hilarious, you complete tool. I didn't even criticise Latin, the Bible was published in Latin and the peasants had no way of reading it for themselves - absolutely nothing to do with your unbelievably dumb reply.
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq No you are wrong or again trying to show your ignorance?, the Bible is from the Greek, not the Latin - i thought everyone knew that? The Bible has also been in english in Britain since at least half a millennium. Research Tyndale. Also there is nothing dumb about what i said in regards to the word hu-man being from the latin, "Hu" meaning "Earth". Aka Hu-man-ist = "Earth Man worshippers".
@@tim-williams 😆 😅 😂 🤣 oh man, stop embarrassing yourself! You must be troll, nobody can be that stupid.
Alice for President of UK.
As stressful as identity politics is, it is a good sign that people are valuing their unique identities and rightly expect the authorities to officially recognize them. Humanism is the greatest good for the greatest number of people.
The primary purpose of ringing church bells today is to signify the time for worshippers to gather for a church service.
A question for Humanist UK, is Humanism still regarded as a religious movement as stipulated in the 1933 Humanist Manifesto?
I don't think so. There's nothing really 'religious' about it, unless you define 'religion' in a very strange way.
@@amritlohia8240 But it was the humanists themselves in 1933 that classified humanism as a "religious movement" The question is, did Humanist UK overturn that part of their own 1933 manifesto, which they are free to do so, if they have.
@@Stickings90 It's not "their own 1933 manifesto". The Union of Ethical Societies, which later changed its name to the Ethical Union, then the British Humanist Association, then Humanists UK, was founded long before that, in 1896, and it never expressed any endorsement of the 1933 "manifesto" - a manifesto created and signed by a bunch of Americans, largely Unitarians.
Alice is *awesome* sauce. I watched all her swimming vids. Also the human origins ones. She is braver than I am.and am, basically, a scary giant. (think Andre R.I.P)
But this slight, intelligent, funny and beautiful, gal will go places I would never go! Humans can be excellent creatures. KUDOS!
I don't understand. I'm an American and whomever I marry and I can just go down to the local town hall, get a marriage license, sign it, then boom we're married. Is there not something similar to doing that in The UK?
Yes, there is, but the problem in most countries is that religious organizations can legally marry couples, but secular organizations can not. The supernatural element gives some organizations certain rights.
Of course you could solve the problem by taking away the right to legally marry couples from religious organizations, and have everybody register at the local town hall, which I think is how it is done in France (correct me if I am wrong), or you should give the right to all life view organizations, regardless of if it is based on secular or religious life views.
And I think many couples would like their wedding to be more than: "boom, we´re married", which could be solved by giving Humanists the right to marry during a Humanist ceremony, like religious people do.
As a committed Christian there is so much that I agree with, listening to Alice Roberts. I believe in debate and rational thinking. I believe in kindness towards others. I believe in taking care of our planet. All of these values are central to scripture as outlined in the Bible. Where Alice and I differ is on the point of death and eternity. Solomon, considered to be the wisest philosopher of his day, was a great humanist but changed his mind before he died. The Queen of Sheba travelled hundreds of miles just to hear his wisdom gleaned from the pursuit of the meaning of life through love and romance (he had over a thousand concubines...), through amassing riches with tons of gold imported every year ('I denied my eyes no good thing') and through education and learning and wisdom. Yet at the end of his life he evaluates all of this and says it is meaningless. Everything is meaningless. His plea, his urge, at the end of his life is to fear God and keep His commandments. He said this because he knew that God would bring everything into judgement whether it is good or evil. We will face God after we die. Some want to die believing that they can fly but others surrender themselves to the arms of the One who loves them and will carry them through to a better world than the one they left behind.
I know which I prefer....
I prefer living in the real world, treasuring the only life we are so unbelievably fortunate to live.
You write: "We will face God after we die." Nobody knows that, and there is no evidence for life after death. And there is no better world than this beautiful planet we live on...
@@peterloman7250well said
Wait, you *can't* get legally married if you're not religious? You learn something new every day...
...you misunderstood
No, in England and Wales a humanist *ceremony* is not legally binding. Work on your listening comprehension.
You can. They are talking about a specifically humanist marriage without going to a registry office.You càn do both of course
Honestly. I’d have thought that England
Oops! - would have settled this long ago.
For the record as a Christian I support the Humanists in this campaign.
It wont be a marriage God acknowledges in his kingdom, if it is without the holy spirit. But if marriage for a humanist is all about acknowledgement not from God, but from the state. Then it is a judicial affair between the courts of law of the state, and that of other humanists.
As a Christian who reads the Bible , I don't support this. The Bible specifies that people in their natural state are morally depraved and incapable of doing what is right...what they do is create their own morality which never ends well for them. This is something God always brings judgement upon...like he did to Hitler, who was also a humanist creating his own moral rules.
@Steven True What's the matter....can't form a coherent sentence?
thank you!
@@tim-williams But what about those in other faiths, such as Jewish, Muslim Hindu etc. They seem to have their religious weddings, which are not part of the Christian faith. Those are allowed in England. What I support is the legal right for humanists to be able to have their style of weddings, especially as we allow them for the Christian and other faiths. That does not mean I endorse humanism.
If there are gay weddings just about anything else is possible
But you can´t be legally wed in a Humanist ceremony, gay or not. You still need to register with a registrar... In a religious ceremony, you don´t...
so not Easter Eggs or Christmas presents for her kids then .
Stephen Burgess Not necessarily. There is no reason for her not to celebrate either Spring or mid-Winter in a secular way. Which is what many did before the Christians came along and invented Easter eggs and bunny rabbits.
@@srp01983 Christians did not invent easter eggs. They assimilated a preexisting pagan religious holiday.
Atheism is not the "default state" and there is not an atheist who doesn't harbor supernatural beliefs which fly in the face of testable reality, such as racial and sexual "equality."
In fact such myths form the bedrock of the pseudo religion of humanism.
Forest Denizen I know they didn’t really, it was a tongue in cheek reply. Easter eggs would have melted in the Middle East. Anyone knows that.
@@forestdenizen6497 Atheism is the default state, racial or sexual equality is not supernatural and are irrelevant to belief in a god
You can still have Christmas presents and Easter eggs. The UK has a Christian culture that other religions or none can take part in if they want. I can drink sherry at Christmas, exchange pressies, enjoy a carol, watch Ben Hur, eat chocolate eggs at Easter. I just don't have to believe in Jesus, go to church or follow the commandments etc.
I thought every wedding was humanist.
You don't need a religious context to have a wedding.
Have you come across the vast Vedic literatures? It teaches a modern , pluralistic and mature idea of everything.
Marriage isn't important to me. Why other humanists? This seems more the politically drive toward liberalism. Many non religious people get marriage. I don't think anyone asks in the ceremony or cares.
What does it mean to legally recognize humanist weddings? Don't humanists, like everyone else, already have the right to marry?
Nope, sadly not. Scotland has it implemented for years and I know more and more people specifically wanting to do it
@@bikerd72 How can they not marry? Like, they go to a registry office and the office people are straight up 'no you can't marry'? I'm sure that's not true
@@SikanderG They mean that humanist ceremonies aren't legally binding. As in, only registrars or ministers (and recognised vows) are legally binding.
@@SikanderG they have to have two weddings if they want to invite more than a handful of people. Utterly stupid in 2020
@Steven True Yeah I get it now.
What sort of person can actually say they see no evidence for the existence of Divine Creation?
Arrogant, very lazy mentally, spiritually blind, stubborn, self - destructive irresponsible.
It’s 2021 folks, it’s all over, you and institutional religion have both had your day. Science wins with knowledge and applied logic: there can not not be a divine creator. Obvious as the nose on your face. Only pride and lack of self- discipline standing between you and the bliss of eternal life.
My advice would be for the future husband to maintain he is a woman and will be the wife, and the future wife to maintain she is a man and will be the husband. They’ll give you anything you want then: falling over themselves yours sincerely grant your every desire
Or maybe they could just grow up
What are you talking about?
Alice is a talented and charismatic young lady. I think if she met Jesus they'd get on like a house on fire.
On fire is probably correct, but not in way you mean...
I'm not sure she's looking for a Spanish blind date but if she is lucky him
Do ghosts exist? Or are they just silly beliefs based upon superstitious nonsense?
She was more beautiful when she was young and now her face seems to have lost its glow to some extent. In any case very pretty 😍😍😍😍😍
When she is in 30 - 40 she is god damn beautiful and hot. But still beautiful tho.
How irrelevant...
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